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WR DK Metcalf, PIT (2 Viewers)

Kevrunner said:
Any connection with “DK Metcalf’s potential foursome”, and Russell Wilson’s strong Christian beliefs being the reason Russell hasn’t been looking DK’s way?  Just google “DK Metcalf foursome” and you see what I’m referring to.  I  think it was supposed to had taking place around the end of October.  I thought Wilson was deliberately not targeting DK and this kinda confirms it for me.
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Yeah... either that, or Wilson has a messed up finger and hasn't been able to throw a football with accuracy since... one of those two I think.

If Wilson has issues with skin hounds then he's probably retiring after this season.

 
Dizzy said:
Yeah... either that, or Wilson has a messed up finger and hasn't been able to throw a football with accuracy since... one of those two I think.

If Wilson has issues with skin hounds then he's probably retiring after this season.
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I am just curious if you and everyone else who thinks this is not in the realm of possibility for Wilson to be going away from Metcalf.  You guys do realize that Russell Wilson has said in the past that God has spoken to him, he actually has said he’s heard God’s voice (God took the time to speak to Russell right after he threw the interception to loose the super bowl)  and also Russell Wilson has said this:  he is not having sex with his girlfriend Ciara because “God told him he needed to "lead her.

 Anyway, hopefully DK is back on Russell Wilson’s good side, DK is a beast and there is no logical explanation for him not to be used accordingly.  Wilson has no problem throwing to Lockett deep or on crossing routes, so I’m not in the camp that it’s due to his hurt finger.   Wilson says the finger is fine, and he isn’t the type of person to “lie”.

 
Kevrunner said:
I am just curious if you and everyone else who thinks this is not in the realm of possibility for Wilson to be going away from Metcalf.  You guys do realize that Russell Wilson has said in the past that God has spoken to him, he actually has said he’s heard God’s voice (God took the time to speak to Russell right after he threw the interception to loose the super bowl)  and also Russell Wilson has said this:  he is not having sex with his girlfriend Ciara because “God told him he needed to "lead her.

 Anyway, hopefully DK is back on Russell Wilson’s good side, DK is a beast and there is no logical explanation for him not to be used accordingly.  Wilson has no problem throwing to Lockett deep or on crossing routes, so I’m not in the camp that it’s due to his hurt finger.   Wilson says the finger is fine, and he isn’t the type of person to “lie”.
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Anything is in the realm with religious fanatics.  But trust me when I say this - if Pete Carroll thought for one second that Wilson wasn't throwing to a stud like DK because of his beliefs, he would yank Wilson without a second thought.  He would pull him aside and whisper, "I don't care what the hell you believe, you either play to win, or get off the field".  Wouldn't you do the same if you were his coach?

 
TheWinz said:
Anything is in the realm with religious fanatics.  But trust me when I say this - if Pete Carroll thought for one second that Wilson wasn't throwing to a stud like DK because of his beliefs, he would yank Wilson without a second thought.  He would pull him aside and whisper, "I don't care what the hell you believe, you either play to win, or get off the field".  Wouldn't you do the same if you were his coach?
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I’m sure you are right,  those coaches jobs are on the line, that’s why I can’t figure out why the offensive coordinator has been not involving DK in the game plan lately.

 
Kevrunner said:
I’m sure you are right,  those coaches jobs are on the line, that’s why I can’t figure out why the offensive coordinator has been not involving DK in the game plan lately.
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Hey, when the game is on the line, no need to trust DK or Lockett.  Freddie Swain to the rescue!

 
Week 13 Fantasy Football Stats: An RB1 finish for Antonio Gibson?

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DK Metcalf is averaging 8.1 yards per catch since Week 8

Meanwhile, Tyler Lockett sits at 17.9. There’s obvious variance there but it remains discouraging to see how the balance of these two being impacted by Russell Wilson’s poor play is so drastically leaning toward Metcalf.

We know the deep passes outside the numbers, where Metcalf can dominate in tight spaces, have been problematic for Wilson post-finger injury. The bigger problem is that Wilson still isn’t comfortable working over the middle, where the Seahawks have at least tried to get Metcalf in space on deep in-breakers and slants.

At this point in Wilson’s career, it’s tough for a tiger to change his stripes. Especially when said beast is working with a damaged paw and living in an environment so fraught with chaos, even Joe Exotic would blush.

For the time being, it’s going to be hard to get away from these guys in starting fantasy lineups. For all the problems, Metcalf and Lockett are still top-24 receivers and Wilson scraped to a good fantasy day despite a brutal offensive showing on Monday night.
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Whatever it is, Russ can't seem to throw it more than 4 yards atm. Even with the SF D back Moseley out. 

They tried a double pitch trick play to Lockett and nearly hit it, but that's the sort of thing they seem to need to do. 

 
I had Van Jefferson in for Metcalf this week until about an hour before gametime - just couldn't do it.   :wall:   :censored:   :wall:   I suppose now I'll just continue to play him through the playoffs....or maybe next week is the week I can finally pull the trigger.

I'm going to need Metcalf therapy after this season.  Is it the team?  Coaching?  Playcalling?  Wilson?  Or is he just not as good as I thought he was (a WR1)?  Unfortunately, I don't get to watch many Seattle games and as they continue to suck, will probably see them less and less (e.g., the switch out of SNF this week).

 
DK Metcalf (foot, illness) did not practice Thursday.

He also sat out Wednesday. Metcalf has regularly missed practice time this season because of his foot issue, but he has not missed a game. It is not normal for him to get two DNPs in a row, however, and he is now listed with an illness as well as a foot injury. Metcalf will likely return to practice Friday and be ready to go, but this is a situation worth monitoring. 

Dec 10, 2021, 10:17 AM ET
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DK Metcalf (foot, back) did not practice Wednesday.

Metcalf has been getting regular time off with the foot issue, but the back thing is new. In the midst of a slump, Metcalf has been oh-so-close to busting it the last two weeks and gets a date with the Rams this week should he be healthy.

Dec 15, 2021, 7:22 PM ET
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DK Metcalf (foot, back) remained sidelined for Thursday's practice. 

Maintenance days, even back-to-back ones, are nothing new for Metcalf, though it is never the greatest feeling to see your WR2 listed with two different injuries as he misses two practices in a row. The back issue is also new this week. We still fully expect Metcalf to be out there against the Rams as uncertainty rages with Tyler Lockett (COVID), Freddie Swain (ankle) and Dee Eskridge (foot). 

Dec 16, 2021, 7:57 PM ET
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DK Metcalf (foot) remained "limited" in Thursday's practice. 

The Seahawks do a little something different with Metcalf's practice each week, but the end result is always the same: He plays. Metcalf's Week 16 variable is the return of Tyler Lockett after Russell Wilson could barely find Metcalf during Lockett's Week 15 absence. Metcalf remains a frustrating WR2 for the fantasy finals. 

Dec 23, 2021, 7:17 PM ET
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NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports DK Metcalf had surgery to remove a screw from his left foot. 

Metcalf struggled through a foot injury for most of the 2021 season, as the Seahawks managed his practice reps to keep him fresh for game day. Hopefully the dominant wideout is 100 percent of the start of the training camp in what would be his final season under contract in Seattle. Metcalf could be slightly undervalued in fantasy football after a down 2021 campaign. 

SOURCE: Ian Rapoport on Twitter

Feb 15, 2022, 10:03 AM ET
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It was obviously a down year overall for Metcalf and the entire Seahawks passing offense, but I think the foot injury affected Metcalf more than what was being let on. He seemed to regularly miss practices during the week but would still gut it out on Sundays.

Could be a buy low opportunity as the blurb above says. 

 
zamboni said:
It was obviously a down year overall for Metcalf and the entire Seahawks passing offense, but I think the foot injury affected Metcalf more than what was being let on. He seemed to regularly miss practices during the week but would still gut it out on Sundays.

Could be a buy low opportunity as the blurb above says. 
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I still think he's a special talent, and he's only 24 years old.  I'm all for buying low on him.  

On the flip side, are his current owners giving a discount?  I guess it could be one of those situations where he was untouchable last year and now they'll at least hear your offer.

There's the question mark of future QB situation if Russ leaves.  

What's a reasonable buy low offer?  Has anyone bought/sold recently?  Would love to hear.

 
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jm192 said:
I still think he's a special talent, and he's only 24 years old.  I'm all for buying low on him.  

On the flip side, are his current owners giving a discount?  I guess it could be one of those situations where he was untouchable last year and now they'll at least hear your offer.

There's the question mark of future QB situation if Russ leaves.  

What's a reasonable buy low offer?  Has anyone bought/sold recently?  Would love to hear.
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DK/Gesicki for Javonte

 
The Seattle Times believes contract-year WR DK Metcalf could wait for other receivers to sign extensions before agreeing to a new deal.

With Davante Adams and A.J. Brown potentially resetting the market, Metcalf would benefit from waiting out other deals. Adams is reportedly targeting $30 million per year and a candidate to be franchise tagged. DeAndre Hopkins ($27M) and Julio Jones ($22M) are the league's current highest paid receivers in average salary. Metcalf, 24, is expected to ask for a deal over $20 million annually.

SOURCE: Seattle Times

Feb 18, 2022, 7:02 PM ET
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I just bought him. I paired KAllen and a quality pick for him. (5 keeper, pick was the 6th in first) I want him for years. 

 
The Athletic's Michael-Shawn Dugar suggested the Seahawks could acquire an early first-round draft pick in exchange for DK Metcalf. 

Seattle doesn't have a first rounder this year. Dugar said the team's "only realistic option" to get a first-round pick would be dealing Metcalf, 24, whose contract expires after the 2022 season. The other option -- one the Seahawks say they aren't considering -- would be trading Russell Wilson. Since entering the NFL in 2019, Metcalf is fifth in receiving touchdowns (29), tenth in receiving yards (3,170) ,and 17th in receptions (216). At his best, he's a nearly-unstoppable deep ball threat who can outrun anyone and everyone on the field. A handful of teams with early draft picks would likely jump at the opportunity to acquire Metcalf if Seattle is willing to part with him this offseason. It would be a stupifying decision by the Seahawks. 

SOURCE: The Athletic 

Feb 25, 2022, 9:09 AM ET
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Loss of Russ definitely concerning for Metcalf, although it's probably worse for Lockett given their chemsistry. 

If it's Drew Lock at the helm, that's a downer. We'll have to see who else is competing.

 
zamboni said:
Loss of Russ definitely concerning for Metcalf, although it's probably worse for Lockett given their chemsistry. 

If it's Drew Lock at the helm, that's a downer. We'll have to see who else is competing.
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Metcalf seems like the sort of talent that is capable of producing regardless of quarterback. Agreed, Lockett not so much

 
titusbramble said:
zamboni said:
Loss of Russ definitely concerning for Metcalf, although it's probably worse for Lockett given their chemsistry. 

If it's Drew Lock at the helm, that's a downer. We'll have to see who else is competing.
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Metcalf seems like the sort of talent that is capable of producing regardless of quarterback. Agreed, Lockett not so much
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I think so too re: Metcalf if a guy can get consistently get him the ball within reach. Not sure I'd be comfortable with Lock though.

 
Losing Russ as your QB is horrible for the WRs and a huge downgrade to the offense, the entire team, the City of Seattle and the State of Washington.    

 
beef said:
Losing Russ as your QB is horrible for the WRs and a huge downgrade to the offense, the entire team, the City of Seattle and the State of Washington.    
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Maybe, and I know Russ was hurt last year, but I'd take any change over what happened the second half of last year. 

 
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Will be traded along with many Seahawks as they try and peel it back to the studs in the wall so they can get a high pick in 2023, have no delusions. 

 
Chargers just resigned Williams. Bills, Titans or Chiefs could feel like they need to make a splash to go over the top. Weird situation because you'd get him cheap for a year and then have to pay 25 a year to keep him.

 
Apple Juice said:
Chargers just resigned Williams. Bills, Titans or Chiefs could feel like they need to make a splash to go over the top. Weird situation because you'd get him cheap for a year and then have to pay 25 a year to keep him.
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One would think the Raiders would make a ton of sense. They need a big play guy, they have cap space, and now are looking at shootouts in every division game. The passing game was noticeably worse without the deep threat Ruggs brought, and Metcalf is obviously better than Ruggs was. 

Eagles make sense too, with their 3 1sts. Maybe a 1st for Metcalf and a mid rounder? Maybe they could throw Reagor in and Seattle could hope they could salvage him?

Possibly crazy, but what about the Bengals? They could save 7 million by getting rid of Boyd. Rolling out Chase, Higgins, and Metcalf would be terrifying, and they'd still have plenty of FA money to spend on OL, which is a better idea than hoping a guy you like is there at #31 anyway. 

 
BroncoFreak_2K3 said:
If you see tweets about BALT getting Metcalf, it’s fake news folks
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Baltimore would be worst case scenario. Rather see him on the Jets. Chiefs, Bills, Chargers would obviously be fun to watch. Even if they don’t plan on signing him long term it is worth a shot. The AFC has become so competitive that you really can’t afford to waste a year of your franchise quarterbacks career. Every year must be all in to win.

 
Apple Juice said:
Chargers just resigned Williams. Bills, Titans or Chiefs could feel like they need to make a splash to go over the top. Weird situation because you'd get him cheap for a year and then have to pay 25 a year to keep him.
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He’d have to have a hell of a season to justify being the highest paid WR in the game. 

 
Cjw_55106 said:
He’d have to have a hell of a season to justify being the highest paid WR in the game. 
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I believe Hopkins is making 27, and I think I heard DK would be asking for 4/80 or something like that. But you're right, all depends on the year he has and the receiver market next year.

 
If you trade for him, you immediately rip up his current deal (~$5 MM for 2022) and replace with a 5/105 deal. That locks him in for the next 4 yrs at ~$20 MM per, with a 5th yr of non-guaranteed money at $25 MM. Everybody wins.

 
With the cut of Bobby Wagner as well, it *seems* they would be cleaning house and getting all the draft capital they can get. I would be surprised to see him as a Seahawk for the upcoming season, or even week really. 

 
Terpman22 said:
With the cut of Bobby Wagner as well, it *seems* they would be cleaning house and getting all the draft capital they can get. I would be surprised to see him as a Seahawk for the upcoming season, or even week really. 
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They cut Bobby Wagner? Holy smoke. 

 
Cutting a soon to be 32 year old LB'er to save $16MM no matter how good he was in years past doesn't have much bearing on whether they keep a not yet 25 year old stud WR still on his rookie deal, IMO. Whether their plan is to trade for a QB or draft one, that QB is going to need more than a 30 year old Lockett to throw to. Seems foolish to trade Metcalf away given how young he is. If anything, trade Lockett if you can (not likely given his contract though.)

 
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Buckna said:
Cutting a soon to be 32 year old LB'er to save $16MM no matter how good he was in years past doesn't have much bearing on whether they keep a not yet 25 year old stud WR still on his rookie deal, IMO. Whether their plan is to trade for a QB or draft one, that QB is going to need more than a 30 year old Lockett to throw to. Seems foolish to trade Metcalf away given how young he is. If anything, trade Lockett if you can (not likely given his contract though.)
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This makes eminently more sense. The only thing I can see is if they don't want to re-up on his contract, which is over at the end of this year. He makes $3.1 million this year, but is said to be worth (according to Pro Football Focus's assessment, and you can take that for what it's worth) around $84 million over four years when his current contract runs out. 

 
Buckna said:
Cutting a soon to be 32 year old LB'er to save $16MM no matter how good he was in years past doesn't have much bearing on whether they keep a not yet 25 year old stud WR still on his rookie deal, IMO. Whether their plan is to trade for a QB or draft one, that QB is going to need more than a 30 year old Lockett to throw to. Seems foolish to trade Metcalf away given how young he is. If anything, trade Lockett if you can (not likely given his contract though.)
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It all depends on how Seattle feels about paying DK big money after this season. If they are not committed to that then trading him now makes a lot of sense.

 
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