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WR DK Metcalf, PIT (2 Viewers)
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FarFromHome
Footballguy
Metcalf and Mike Evans give me nightmares. Both always go nuclear when I'm against them.
rockaction
Footballguy
I don't think I've ducked a Mike Evans game in my main dynasty league without him throwing up about twenty-five points.
It's been four years. I've won a championship and I still haven't beaten the guy trotting out Mike Evans and company.
DK, on the other hand, I roster, so of course it's not twenty-five points a game. I'd be utterly giddy if that was the case.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Yep. Mike Evans week 17, 38 point game last year prevented my b2b championship. I close my eyes and I still see that box score.
Geno finally looked like good Geno last night ina tough matchup on the road. Promising for all Metcalf owners..
rockaction
Footballguy
Thankfully the guy that had Evans had been eliminated the week before and I survived a 1.50 or 1.60 performance from DK to win a championship. To say DK is matchup-proof is to overstate the case, based on my experience.
Just trying to bring it back to DK.
rockaction
Footballguy
Nice highlight package at the link. You wonder how he can look so physically dominant out there and not produce every week. I know there's a technician's element of route-running and contested balls to work on, but that catch against Bland deep along the sidelines was a thing of beauty. He didn't show eyes or hands until the very end (as Herbstreit pointed out) and he just hand caught the ball and it stuck. Great play. Better than his touchdown catches or routes.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
I think at times Metcalf looks like the best wr in football. His talent is off the charts. Other teams recognize that and prioritize taking him out of the game. In those games Lockett has really benefited. Now Jaxon is emerging to give them 3 solid options. I see a roller coaster of fantasy production from him. You take the highs and lows with him. The highs win you weeks.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than good. I put DK into my lineup in case Olave can’t go this week.
packer_junkie
Footballguy
Seahawks are funny
DK was enfuego and he didn't get a target the last two drives.
Normally this year it is the opposite. Spread it all over, than go to DK to get in field goal range for the win late.
When I watch him, I am mesmerized. Hes so big its hard to really comprehend. Looks like Calvin Johnson out there.
Geno is ok. DK has limitations
but he is so fun to watch play
DK was enfuego and he didn't get a target the last two drives.
Normally this year it is the opposite. Spread it all over, than go to DK to get in field goal range for the win late.
When I watch him, I am mesmerized. Hes so big its hard to really comprehend. Looks like Calvin Johnson out there.
Geno is ok. DK has limitations
but he is so fun to watch play
crushedspirit
Footballguy
DK has not been a guy you start weekly waiting for any upside. He was 29th in standard, and 35th in PPR coming in. You use him when your options are limited. I would have lost numerous games earlier if I would have kept him in the lineup waiting for an explosion. His floor has been very low.
Having said that, it was always clear he is capable of games like this because he is a freak talent in my opinion, but lacks some finesse when it comes to route running. Geno has stunk for the most part, until last night of course.
Congrats to DK owners who stuck him in last night.
Having said that, it was always clear he is capable of games like this because he is a freak talent in my opinion, but lacks some finesse when it comes to route running. Geno has stunk for the most part, until last night of course.
Congrats to DK owners who stuck him in last night.
finfansteve
Footballguy
Left both geno and DK on my bench last night in my one dynasty league I have them in. Combined for 77 points. I feel sick
DK's kind of been odd in that I drafted him for his big game upside but he's actually been a high targeted solid floor type all year, until last night. I drafted him twice and both teams uncovered some gold at WR in later rounds but I think in total I benched him just once all year between those two leagues, just hard for me to sit someone so heavily targeted most weeks with big play/game potential though I was going to be two last week but could not wait for Flowers status. Anyway I've been happy with his solid play all year even before last night.
After last weeks games Carroll was publicly stating something along the lines of the team needed to refine it's offensive identity and that players were not being put in the best positions to maximize their talent, that they had unique talents at WR and needed pass routes to reflect their talent. Only person he mentioned by name when he said this was JSN so I was anticipating higher use for him, to my untrained eye I can't say I saw a difference on how DK as used, but if they tweaked something I hope they keep it up.
After last weeks games Carroll was publicly stating something along the lines of the team needed to refine it's offensive identity and that players were not being put in the best positions to maximize their talent, that they had unique talents at WR and needed pass routes to reflect their talent. Only person he mentioned by name when he said this was JSN so I was anticipating higher use for him, to my untrained eye I can't say I saw a difference on how DK as used, but if they tweaked something I hope they keep it up.
TampaMike19
Footballguy
The Seahawks seem like such a high variance offense. Perhaps that’s why they brought in Charbs and Jsn to help keep drives alive and move the chains. Walker seems boom bust. We know Lockett is. Metcalf at times. They don’t really have a high reception guy on the offense. Thought Metcalf could do it with slant routes and chain moving routes but that is definitely limiting what he brings to the table.
When the variance goes our way, look out. Can’t see Metcalf losing us owners many games considering the draft cost but can understand if you have a Dell type in over him
When the variance goes our way, look out. Can’t see Metcalf losing us owners many games considering the draft cost but can understand if you have a Dell type in over him
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
He's a modern-day T.O. Just a freakish athlete.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
I've had to look at him in my opponents lineup for days.
eighsse2
Footballguy
Hieronymus Brown
Footballguy
Waddle scored a whopping 7 points in half ppr for me smh. Really coulda used those DK points.
Down Under
Footballguy
Up to WR18 after his big week in half ppr. I hope that DK can keep it up over the rest of the season in the light of Dell's season-ending injury. I don't like him at SF next week (who would), but he has decent matchups v Phi, @Ten, v Pit weeks 14-16 (playoffs!) if I can make it through next week.
Its kind of amazing to me how little the new coaching staff is being talked about. Seattle is going to be a much more pass heavy (specifically deep if the OL allows it) offense. I think Metcalf is set up very well, and JSN is probably being undervalued slightly as well.
does that mean geno smith is under-valued?
FantasyGuru24
Footballguy
Bobo 
Yeah, probably. I mean, I don't know that he's a fantasy starter in 12-team leagues, but I think he's right there with someone like Herbert, and ahead of guys like Mayfield or Watson in my eyes. I'm not bold enough to put him ahead of Rodgers, but its very much a realistic possibility. I'm not worried about Howell taking the job, unless an injury occurs.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Totally agree. DK is maybe my top value for all formats right now.
I'm finding myself ending up with a lot of DK shares too. Probably my 2nd or 3rd most drafted WR after Deebo and Pickens.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Based on talent, few wrs are on this guys level. I remember watching him play the Titans last year. I knew he was big but my goodness, in real life he is really a man among boys. If that offense gets a slight uptick on pass to run ratio I don't see how he doesnt have a massive year. Wonderful 4th round investment imo.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Until Sam takes over.
why will he take over?
I don't follow college that much, but the year before he came out, local radio said he looked like he'd be a top 5 pick in two years (and we should draft him), then wasn't, then WAS didn't keep him. I tried to acquire him in the leagues where i have Geno and that owner said the same thing as you, nor did that owner want Geno. As a Geno owner, it worries me, but...
barackdhouse
Footballguy
talking about getting him more involved in pre-snap motion and higher variety of routes... combined with presumed higher pass:run ratio and he could be a big value right now. sorry to say I've been largely passing on him but probably need to change that.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Reports he was killing it in joint practice today with Titans. I just have that feeling. That tingly feeling Metcalf is about to have career year. I don't have any links or sources.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
He would have had a career year last year if Geno didn’t throw 100 balls at his feet.
Signed,
2023 Metcalf owner
greenmountaingoat
Footballguy
I’m hoping he’s there for me at 3.11.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
He's a great 3rd round pick as a WR2 or WR3 for a redraft team.
I've tried to buy low-ish on him a few times in dynasty this offseason & owners aren't biting.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Gonna be a beast this year.
So far through 3 drafts & 3 dynasty leagues I’ve managed to accumulate 0 shares.
Still 3 drafts to go.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
He is one of my guys this year. New offense is going to open so much up for him. The pace increase alone should be big.Gonna be a beast this year.
So far through 3 drafts & 3 dynasty leagues I’ve managed to accumulate 0 shares.
Still 3 drafts to go.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Yeah - I’ve wanted him everywhere. Just haven’t been in a position to grab him. Sigh
Ilov80s
Footballguy
In a slow paced, run oriented Pete Carrol offense but what about a more fast paced, pass friendly offense?
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I expect him to go nuclear this year. I tried hard to add him in dynasty. No takers.
Fast paced offense, 3-WR sets as the norm - might be 100+ receptions/1500 yards.
Geno will have to cooperate, but… it’s a potential ceiling.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Yeah, no guarantees ofc but the ceiling has been raised.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Yeah, I don't see their defense as improved to the point they won't be in shootouts. The only downside is 49ers 2X, Rams 2X. That said, 49ers weakness is their secondary, and AZ should be a tasty 2 games as well, so it should balance out. I still expect DK to get his. He's a matchup nightmare who can fly. Dude's like a linebacker sprinter who can catch. Honestly surprised he hasn't had a truly dominant season yet, but I think it's coming
I find him slipping a lot in mocks. Don't get it.
Absolutely no one planting their flag on him this year either.
With the new OC I'd think he has a chance at a ceiling year.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
6 ft 3 inches. 230lbs. Can prolly still run a 4.4 forty. This guy might have as much physical talent as any wr we have seen outside of Calvin Johnson. He is a bigger and faster Terrell Owens. Crazy. Already been a great NFL wr. He is about to go nuclear for two reasons:
1. Change in offensive philosophy.
2. Bad defense.
Buckle up. Anything under 15 tds will be disappointing to me.
1. Change in offensive philosophy.
2. Bad defense.
Buckle up. Anything under 15 tds will be disappointing to me.
