Helaire-ious
Footballguy
What hot vehicles?Da Guru said:
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums
This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!
WR Henry Ruggs III (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter Faust
- Start date
Helaire-ious
Footballguy
Sorry, wasn't saying F off to you personally. Just to the thought in general as I have lived that bs. It's hollow bs from people with no remorse 99% of the timeSoBeDad said:
TwinTurbo
Footballguy
That Corvette sits low and the nose would have probably dipped down even more while braking hard before impact at that speed, with a lot of the energy going into the Rav4 which must have been pushed forward quite a bit. If someone hit a wall or tree at that speed, it's game over, nobody walks away from that. For reference, this is the custom C8 he drove.Andy Dufresne said:
It's really tough to read these types of stories and there was absolutely no need for it to happen. I feel so badly for the victim and her family. She had her dog too. You can't drive 150 mph on a public street, let alone intoxicated. So reckless.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
i'm not angry, not sure why you led with that. 156mph woman burns to death. i simply won't feel any sympathy for the perpetrator.BigJim® said:
edit: and he was drunk.
Last edited by a moderator:
Dwayne Hoover
Footballguy
I wouldn't quite say it's a neighborhood street but not that its any excuse to go 156 mph. Its a street with a few lanes on it. Don't get me wrong, he's an idiot for going that fast but when I think neighborhood street, Im thinking one lane.
simey
Footballguy
Neighborhood street with two lanes, sorta neighborhood street with four lanes, Highway with eight lanes, etc. Doesn’t matter. It’s all semantics.
Ruggs drove 156mph.
Ruggs drove drunk.
Ruggs drove 156mph while drunk.
Ruggs drove 156mph while drunk and killed someone.
We all make bad decisions. This wasn’t a “bad decision.” This was a reckless, negligent, idiotic, life altering decision. And anyone with half a brain, drunk or not, knows that driving while drunk is dangerous. And to compound that by driving at 156mph, regardless of where you are, and killing someone is deserved of whatever sentence the judge throws at him. It’s a travesty if it isn’t at least half the maximum. Oh, and the gun. Unreal.
Ruggs drove 156mph.
Ruggs drove drunk.
Ruggs drove 156mph while drunk.
Ruggs drove 156mph while drunk and killed someone.
We all make bad decisions. This wasn’t a “bad decision.” This was a reckless, negligent, idiotic, life altering decision. And anyone with half a brain, drunk or not, knows that driving while drunk is dangerous. And to compound that by driving at 156mph, regardless of where you are, and killing someone is deserved of whatever sentence the judge throws at him. It’s a travesty if it isn’t at least half the maximum. Oh, and the gun. Unreal.
Pipes
Footballguy
Yeah I've been to Vegas alot as I have relatives who live off Maryland Pkwy and those streets like Rainbow are 3/4 lanes in each direction with 35 mph speed limits (I believe) and wide open. Every once in a while some yahoo in a sports will fly by you at probably 60-70 mph and that's moving. I couldn't imagine what it would be like with someone coming up on you at 156 mph. T&Ps to Tina such a horrible way to go.
![[icon]](/data/avatars/m/5/5167.jpg?1660313464){kind=avatar}
[icon]
Insoxicated
I've been guilty of driving at inappropriate speeds on public roads... I've kissed 150mph before in a LS 460 (speed limiter removed), but it was on a freshly paved, straight, 3 lane freeway, stone sober on a clear afternoon with sight lines in excess of 1 mile and nobody else on the road.
I'll be honest... I was white-knuckled as hell. Even in a car that hunkers down and is very stable at high speeds, it's very clear that one mistake and I was dead.
For folks not accustomed to driving at those speeds, your relative speed to even normal freeway traffic (70mph) is not something easy to anticipate. Versus a stopped vehicle, you're talking about gaining nearly a football field per second, and likely requiring another football field of road to come to a stop.
I can't even begin to fathom the mindset to hit those speeds in ANY sort of populated / trafficked area. Insane.
Last edited by a moderator:
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Derrius Guice has a lot better chance at playing again over Ruggs and i don't give him much of a chance.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
The more info that comes out, the lower I go. I’m definitely under 1% now too. I already cut him from my 47 player dynasty roster (although he is still held in my other dynasty leagues); so, I’m pretty pessimistic.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Perfect description.
I had a ‘68 GTO when I was 17-20. 430 HP, 400 CID with ram air induction. That car had some giddy-up. I would jump on it from time to time, but mostly just punching it to get up to speed, or off the line to throw my friends into the seats with the awesome torque that the 60s muscle cars were known for.
On a clear, dry day, with visibility for days, on a well-paved road far, far from anywhere, and sober as a judge, I got her up to 135 and scared the absolute crap out of myself. She had more to give. I was not Ricky Bobby with a cougar in my car. I was more Ricky Bobby running around in my underpants believing I was on fire.
Not because the car wouldn’t perform, but exactly as you said - one twitch and I would have been a crushed mess of metal and motor oil smeared across a mile of pavement. And at that speed, it becomes extremely apparent.
I couldn’t imagine 21 MPH faster, and in a residential neighborhood. It’s absolutely insane. That he slammed on the brakes and *still* hit her at 127 (or whatever) shows exactly how impossible the reaction time is at those speeds.
And obviously alcohol impairs reaction time first and foremost.
Madness. He was entirely without thought, and a woman and her dog burned alive because of it. The more time passes, the more mad I am at Ruggs for this idiocy. Some y’all have room in your hearts for forgiveness and i envy that grace. It’s gonna take some time for me to find it in mine. Just a senseless tragedy.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I put it at 0%.
We’ll see what happens, but due to the nature of how this ended and the state in which it occurred, I fully expect the book to be thrown at him. I’d bet he is going to do at least 7 years, without parole, and maybe longer. NV likes to make examples out of stuff like this.
In that case, he’s 29 & will have been living on prison food when he gets out?
IMO Ruggs has played his last snap in the NFL.
Last edited by a moderator:
Ya I think everyone would be blown away if he ever played again. But who knows what a good lawyer can do. He'll be in jail for 5-10 years I'd guess, so I can't see him just coming out of jail and an NFL team wanting a 30 year old who hasn't played football in 10 years SO BADLY that they'd take this PR nightmare on.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Exactly. Never mind what kind of shape he’d be in physically or mentally - the media would absolutely destroy whoever signed him.
Vick was the epitome of a rehab story - spoke at schools for the ASPCA against dog fighting, made amends in every way possible, and the Eagles still caught hell for signing him.
And Vick never killed a human (that we know of).
Ruggs is done.
Last edited by a moderator:
simey
Footballguy
It was a series of bad decisions that resulted in a horrific tragedy. He will be punished by law for it and spend time in prison, and he will be mentally punished having to live with the fact he took the life of a woman, and she and her pet suffered greatly when they died. By all accounts Henry Ruggs is a nice person that has not gotten into trouble in the past. He did a horrible thing, but that does not mean he is a horrible person. I'm sure right now he thinks he is a horrible person along with many, many others. He does have people that love him, and they will support him, and that doesn't mean they are condoning what he did. He can't undo what he has done, but perhaps one day he can find redemption.
foxco
Footballguy
I agree he's probably done, but if he goes to prison for several years I'd have no problem with a team signing him. He's paid his price at that point and the system has deemed him eligible to re-enter society. To me it's a big difference than if he gets a 6 month sentence and then is back on the team, I'd feel very differently if I felt he got off very lightly vs. facing a "normal" sentence for this type of crime. Just my .02...
ghostguy123
Footballguy
0.01% chace he ever plays again
0.000001% chance he is ever fantasy relevant again
0.000001% chance he is ever fantasy relevant again
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
I’m in the no sympathy crowd. We have all made poor decisions in life but a decision of this magnitude? I would guess that less than 1% of us have made such an irresponsible decision at any point in our lives. Drunk or not, doing what he did is unfathomable to me. No sympathy here. None.
btemp
Footballguy
Where I live (and perhaps all over) there has been a drastic rise in car accidents over the last 10+ years.
I've been reflecting on that, and how few people realise (or are taught) that cars are a deadly weapon. When you get in your car it's like walking around with a loaded gun. You have to think of it that way, too often we think of cars as conveniences to abuse (thus we eat, text, drive drunk).
This is as stupid as getting blitzed and playing with a loaded gun on a public street. When it goes off you just gotta hope it doesn't hit anyone.
I've been reflecting on that, and how few people realise (or are taught) that cars are a deadly weapon. When you get in your car it's like walking around with a loaded gun. You have to think of it that way, too often we think of cars as conveniences to abuse (thus we eat, text, drive drunk).
This is as stupid as getting blitzed and playing with a loaded gun on a public street. When it goes off you just gotta hope it doesn't hit anyone.
Brunell4MVP
Footballguy
Really? I highly doubt that. Maybe daylight on an open interstate you see once in your life f you can hit 3 digits. But around other cars. Nope. Around houses. Nope. At 2 am in the dark when it's completely dangerous and a cop is gonna crush you with DUI checks and reckless for doing it? Not a chance.
For those wondering how long of a prison sentence Ruggs may be looking at and if he'll play again. The link below is a story from 2020 about a multi-millionaire with access to the best lawyers available who was convicted of DUI by death in Vegas where he killed one person. He got 8-20 years, must serve at least 8 years before eligible for parole.
That's just one case but again I'm just mentioning this to disavow people from the notion that Ruggs being able to hire best defense attorney's possible might lead to him getting a low end of 2-20 year sentence.
https://www.ktnv.com/news/scott-gragson-to-be-sentenced-friday-in-2019-deadly-dui-crash
That's just one case but again I'm just mentioning this to disavow people from the notion that Ruggs being able to hire best defense attorney's possible might lead to him getting a low end of 2-20 year sentence.
https://www.ktnv.com/news/scott-gragson-to-be-sentenced-friday-in-2019-deadly-dui-crash
Sam Quentin
Footballguy
I still can’t figure how Leonard Little got off with community service
“After leaving a birthday party in 1998, Little crashed into and killed Susan Gutweiler in St. Louis, Missouri who was on her way to pick up her son from a concert. When tested, his blood alcohol content was 0.19 percent, 0.11 points exceeding the legal limit of 0.08 in the state of Missouri. Little received four years probation and was ordered to undergo a thousand hours of community service.”
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Courtjester
The Town Drunk
This.
One of my 17 year old daughter’s friends was killed yesterday driving to school. She pulled out of her street and was smashed into by a Ford pickup who, just looking at the pictures, was far exceeding the speed limit. It is just sobering. They weren’t close friends, but my daughter just talked to this girl in class the day before.. We just saw her at an awards ceremony Monday and boom, she is gone. Life can change in an instant.
Here we have many lives ruined by a split second of Ruggs’ stupidity. Just beyond words.
The airbags when deployed record this data:
Former Las Vegas Raiders star Henry Ruggs was driving at 156 mph seconds before deadly crash, police say
Excerpt:
Insein
Footballguy
That's why I said highway. Absolutely no way is it ever excusable in a neighborhood or even surface roads with lights. And 156 is like a damn race car. Nascar goes 190-200mph.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
Traveling 500 ft after impact is astounding. 167 yards! That's most of the length of a long city block. It's the better part of two football fields. SMH So tragic.
--
I actually had Riggs on my mind last night as my daughter and I left a Chicago Blackhawks game. Coming down an escalator, a drunk guy several 'steps' behind us fell and rolled down, almost knocking us down. Stadium security saw it, but didn't stop him at all after other folks helped him get back to his feet. We happened to head the same direction as the guy outside the stadium, and watched him stagger along. When we saw him wander into a parking lot, we approached two cops to alert them that this guy (if he could even find his car) should not be driving. Just as we pointed out the guy, who had reversed course, he fell down a curb and sprawled into the street. Definitely one less drunk on the road last night.
--
I actually had Riggs on my mind last night as my daughter and I left a Chicago Blackhawks game. Coming down an escalator, a drunk guy several 'steps' behind us fell and rolled down, almost knocking us down. Stadium security saw it, but didn't stop him at all after other folks helped him get back to his feet. We happened to head the same direction as the guy outside the stadium, and watched him stagger along. When we saw him wander into a parking lot, we approached two cops to alert them that this guy (if he could even find his car) should not be driving. Just as we pointed out the guy, who had reversed course, he fell down a curb and sprawled into the street. Definitely one less drunk on the road last night.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I just saw the video of Ruggs sitting on the ground cry8ng while the Rav 4 is burning up. Didn’t want to see it, didn’t know it existed, wasn’t looking for it - just came up a feed I was scrolling.
Just awful.
Just awful.
Capella
Footballguy
Yea, no chance. There will be 7-8 years of drafts for teams to fill their needs. He’ll be an afterthought by then, at an age where players in peak shape start slowing down, and no GM would take him on even if he was in playing shape. Absolutely no chance.
CGRdrJoe
Footballguy
i honestly thought Mike Vick would never play again but
if a player can add value to a team then they are going to sign him regardless.
Capella
Footballguy
I get that but Mike only got two years and didn’t kill a human. Ruggs will be gone till near the end of the decade.i honestly thought Mike Vick would never play again but
