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WR Jakobi Meyers, LV (1 Viewer)

massraider said:
I think he might score some TDs, thus relaxing the importance of maintaining a 50% target share. 

I think the team may also throw for more yards. 

I think when I look at the WR they had last year, and they only brought in Bourne and Agholor; that seems like good news for Meyers. They brought in two good TE, but it's a decent bet that Meyers leads the WRs, and maybe the team, in targets. Not a lock, but a decent bet. 

At WR75, that's a buy. 
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I only provide opinions on situations and how players might do. People can decide on their own where to draft them. You sort of blended two different points . . . that he is worth drafting as the WR75 . . . and that he was WR22 over a 10 game stretch. He will probably perform somewhere in the middle.

It's also possible he can have the most targets on the team and still not really be that high on the fantasy food chain. He had the most targets on NE last year and if he put up the same numbers over a full season (instead of just 10 games), he'd likely be in the WR50s. So sure, count me in that he will likely do better than WR75 . . . but he might not have a lot of fantasy impact. I know you picked Meyers stats from Week 7-17 . . . but if we use Weeks 11-17 instead, he was WR52 based on PPG in PPR leagues. Put another way, he was WR14 for a month, and then teams started covering him better.

It's very possible NE does not have a regular fantasy starter on their roster at any position (except maybe their defense). IMO, there is too much going on in NE and so many new faces that I think they will be so hard to predict before the season starts that I wouldn't want to really own any of their skill position players unless they were dirt cheap / late round picks (which they probably will be).

And since I brought that up, I looked at where FBG has all the NE guys are currently going based on ADP . . .

Agholor WR60
Meyers WR83 (actually going even later than you mentioned)
Bourne WR100

TBH, I would probably take Agholor before Meyers if I had to pick one, but there isn't anything wrong in taking either of them at that price. I would guess Agholor will get more yards and TD but Meyers will have more targets and receptions. Bourne to me seems more like a blocking WR in this offense, and I haven't heard much out of camp about him so far other than he's been working hard.

Cam QB30
Mac QB33

Since no one knows who will play and for how long, people are avoiding these two. I believe Cam will get the benefit of the doubt and BB will hold out Jones as long as possible . . . which makes Cam a value as a late, late pick. He should do better than last year . . . but again, probably not a weekly fantasy consideration. Would fantasy owners really want a guy that is middle of the road as a fantasy back up that could lose his job at any time? It seems like both of these guys could end up on the waiver wire and might be available for free,

Harris RB36
White RB52
Stevenson RB59
Michel RB63

I am sure people will be interested in Harris . . . but based on PPG last year (PPR leagues) he ranked 33rd when he played. He's struggled to stay on the field (who knows if that will continue to be an issue). White didn't click with Newton (he ranked as RB66 in PPG last year). Stevenson would be a hard pass for me, as he seems destined to be a candidate to be redshirted for the season and barely play. IMO, the guy I would probably want here would be Michel, as he will likely get enough work to be a bye week / injury fill in (and could even be a fantasy consideration if Harris got hurt). And if he got traded, it would probably be to a RB needy team where he would get more work (or a team that had their primary ball carrier get hurt). Michel last season ranked as RB38 in the games he played (even though he wasn't used much as a receiver) . . . and that includes a game where he only played one snap. Eliminating that game, he would have ranked RB34 (one slot behind Harris and less than 0.1 away in weekly scoring average).

Henry TE15
Smith TE17

These do probably will cancel each other out. I doubt both of them will have big games the same week very often, so owners will curse the other player for stealing their guy's targets.

NE DEF/ST 8

Their defense should be better. But I might wait until someone gets frustrated early on and drops them when they look disorganized to start the season. They should get better as the season goes along and all the new players are better integrated and on the same page.

 
Anarchy99 said:
I only provide opinions on situations and how players might do. People can decide on their own where to draft them. You sort of blended two different points . . . that he is worth drafting as the WR75 . . . and that he was WR22 over a 10 game stretch. He will probably perform somewhere in the middle.
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Meyers being a WR2 over the last 10 weeks of the season is the reasoning behind why WR75 (or WR83) seems like a bargain. 

I don't think he's going to have the upside of some WRs taken around that area, but his floor might be appealing as well. 

 
I like Meyers as the safety valve in this offense, especially as Mac gets up to game speed. Think his floor is very high with positive td regression.

 
Anarchy99 said:
It's very possible NE does not have a regular fantasy starter on their roster at any position (except maybe their defense).
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I agree with this, though I present counterarguments for Harris because I hold out hope that he can be a regular contributor. The smarter, more rational side of me thinks that your above statement is accurate.

 
Buck Bradcanon said:
Here's a really good Twitter thread on Jakobi Meyers that has me eyeing him often now in the latter stages of best ball drafts.

https://twitter.com/jaketribbey/status/1415418363824820226?s=21
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That link is dead, but I believe this is what you were referencing. LINK

All the things that people are saying about Meyers are true . . . about LAST year (and as already hashed out when they had no other threats once Edelman got hurt). I stand by my statement that the majority of Meyers numbers came from 2-3 games and the rest of the time he was mostly a fantasy afterthought. But because he compiled that over basically 11 games, people are not considering that his numbers dropped off after a month. He ranked as the #52 WR in PPG in PPR leagues from weeks 11-17. And now NE added 2 TE and 2 WR, to go along with a healthy backfield (at least as of now). He was pretty much the only option last year and they went out and added a lot more players to take away targets. (And let's not forget he threw for 2 TD . . . is NE really going to have him throwing the football?)

So to summarize, he's worth drafting if he's cheap / a late round pick. I would not put a whole lot of stock that Tom Curran said he will be the most reliable and productive WR on the team. I still think they will be challenged offensively and the WRs won't produce big numbers. IMO, the running game and TEs will be the focal point, and Agholor will have some decent weeks and score TDs when they play action people to death (assuming he can hold onto the football).

Meyers will probably see the most targets and catches of the WRs, but having a small share of a small pie doesn't necessarily translate to being a fantasy starter most weeks. He could easily have multiple weeks with 5 catches, 40-50 yards, and 0 TD. Is that really fantasy start worthy? That might add up to so ok yearend numbers, but that probably will put him in the WR50 discussion come the end of the year. Over his last 7 games, JM averaged 4-53-0. I will let people decide on their own if he will do better or worse than that and if they want to consider rostering / starting him. (And as also discussed already, NE could add someone else at any point.)

Since you mentioned best ball, IMO Agholor would probably be a better option as he will have high weeks and non-existent weeks, which is better than someone that most of the time is consistently decent but won't have weeks with 4/100/2. Agholor had 4 weeks last year scoring 20+ fantasy points. Meyers had 2 such games, but only one of them was when he scored 20 points receiving (the other game he scored points from throwing a TD).

 
Anarchy99 said:
That link is dead, but I believe this is what you were referencing. LINK

All the things that people are saying about Meyers are true . . . about LAST year (and as already hashed out when they had no other threats once Edelman got hurt). I stand by my statement that the majority of Meyers numbers came from 2-3 games and the rest of the time he was mostly a fantasy afterthought. But because he compiled that over basically 11 games, people are not considering that his numbers dropped off after a month. He ranked as the #52 WR in PPG in PPR leagues from weeks 11-17. And now NE added 2 TE and 2 WR, to go along with a healthy backfield (at least as of now). He was pretty much the only option last year and they went out and added a lot more players to take away targets. (And let's not forget he threw for 2 TD . . . is NE really going to have him throwing the football?)

So to summarize, he's worth drafting if he's cheap / a late round pick. I would not put a whole lot of stock that Tom Curran said he will be the most reliable and productive WR on the team. I still think they will be challenged offensively and the WRs won't produce big numbers. IMO, the running game and TEs will be the focal point, and Agholor will have some decent weeks and score TDs when they play action people to death (assuming he can hold onto the football).

Meyers will probably see the most targets and catches of the WRs, but having a small share of a small pie doesn't necessarily translate to being a fantasy starter most weeks. He could easily have multiple weeks with 5 catches, 40-50 yards, and 0 TD. Is that really fantasy start worthy? That might add up to so ok yearend numbers, but that probably will put him in the WR50 discussion come the end of the year. Over his last 7 games, JM averaged 4-53-0. I will let people decide on their own if he will do better or worse than that and if they want to consider rostering / starting him. (And as also discussed already, NE could add someone else at any point.)

Since you mentioned best ball, IMO Agholor would probably be a better option as he will have high weeks and non-existent weeks, which is better than someone that most of the time is consistently decent but won't have weeks with 4/100/2. Agholor had 4 weeks last year scoring 20+ fantasy points. Meyers had 2 such games, but only one of them was when he scored 20 points receiving (the other game he scored points from throwing a TD).
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I appreciate this. Thank you for posting your thoughts and fixing my link!

 
Here's a general update based on the first week of training camp . . .

Kendrick Bourne has been said to have a ton of receptions and underneath work so far. Rumored to have the most targets and catches so far. He's drawn praise for always being where his QB expects him to be and in position to make catches. What that means for Meyers, who knows. Could be something, could be nothing, but Bourne has been very active in the offense so far.

Agholor has been the one getting open consistently, getting separation on longer to deep routes, and has been hauling in TD passes like it's nobodies business, either from Cam or Mac. He scored 3 times today. Even Harry has been doing well and scoring TD in competitive situations.

Also lots of targets so far to the TEs. I haven't seen or heard much about Meyers not doing well, but he hasn't gotten much commentary or feedback so far.

My fear for Meyers as posted earlier is that with better receiving options than last year, Meyers will lose a ton of targets and become just one of the gang in NE. I am leery to make any conclusions after the first week of training camp, but the way things have gone so far only fits that narrative.

 
Jakobi has an outstanding Reception Perception chart (Matt Harmon)

basically he wins on anything on the route tree, and is elite vs man or press.

that’s one of the best ways to identify WRs independent of QB production (identified Robinson and Lockett before they broke out & Jefferson/Lamb last year)

for redraft or 2021 purposes I have no interest but if they ever fix the QB position, he’s gonna ball

 
BobbyLayne said:
Jakobi has an outstanding Reception Perception chart (Matt Harmon)

basically he wins on anything on the route tree, and is elite vs man or press.

that’s one of the best ways to identify WRs independent of QB production (identified Robinson and Lockett before they broke out & Jefferson/Lamb last year)

for redraft or 2021 purposes I have no interest but if they ever fix the QB position, he’s gonna ball
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There a link?  I'd love to see who else is listed.

 
rockaction said:
I have a subscription. Meyers is nowhere near the basic package. You might have to get the Sicko package to see his historical numbers.
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I remember a day, not five years ago, when multiple tier subscriptions was something that didn't exist.  Now it's the norm. I miss the Olde days.

 
wgoldsph said:
I remember a day, not five years ago, when multiple tier subscriptions was something that didn't exist.  Now it's the norm. I miss the Olde days.
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Amen. Yeah, I think the fantasy world is so competitive, and leagues with such big pots, that it behooves people to invest in their teams. Often times, the multi-tiered stuff comes with personalized advice for one's team. I can see that, but putting the stats you're compiling behind the tiered wall sucks for basic subscribers. Since so much of the basic stuff gets quoted on Twitter and plugged by the guys themselves, I'm not sure I'll sign up for any multi-tiered stuff next year.

 
I mean, I get the $29.99 package, which is a decent amount, and I don't have access to a guy like Meyers, which is what I need when deciding on my WR5-8 for the year in deep leagues.

 
rockaction said:
I mean, I get the $29.99 package, which is a decent amount, and I don't have access to a guy like Meyers, which is what I need when deciding on my WR5-8 for the year in deep leagues.
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Thanks, I was mulling over the $19.99 Basic but if you’re unhappy with the next tier I guess I’ll pass.

I heard him on a lengthy podcast recently (forget which one but maybe Underdog)  and he went through all the guys he hypes every single year (Hopkins, McLaurin, Lamb, ARob, Lockett) and toward the end they said “hey who’s a deep sleeper late round dart throw you think people overlook.” He talked about JM for like 5 minutes.

Reception Perception is not perfect but his methodology has had a pretty high hit rate. You hear a lot of guys quoting RP or having him as a guest.

 
rockaction said:
Amen. Yeah, I think the fantasy world is so competitive, and leagues with such big pots, that it behooves people to invest in their teams. Often times, the multi-tiered stuff comes with personalized advice for one's team. I can see that, but putting the stats you're compiling behind the tiered wall sucks for basic subscribers. Since so much of the basic stuff gets quoted on Twitter and plugged by the guys themselves, I'm not sure I'll sign up for any multi-tiered stuff next year.
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So you're suggesting an onlyfans type model as the best way to go about multi-tiering... Not that I'd know how any of that works.

All of the stats are out there in the ether though, just takes a matter of googling.  Putting the pieces together takes a bit of knowledge, but there's a lot of free resources (like this board) that if you've got the time to dedicate to your high stakes hobby you can figure out most of that first level subscription stuff yourself.

 
wgoldsph said:
So you're suggesting an onlyfans type model as the best way to go about multi-tiering... Not that I'd know how any of that works.

All of the stats are out there in the ether though, just takes a matter of googling.  Putting the pieces together takes a bit of knowledge, but there's a lot of free resources (like this board) that if you've got the time to dedicate to your high stakes hobby you can figure out most of that first level subscription stuff yourself.
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That is definitely true for most basic data. However the Reception Perception data it is proprietary. He’s charted like 75,000 routes in the last seven years. So you can see why he’s trying to monetize that effort, it’s a singular product.

That’s not to say it’s necessarily worth the investment. It’s like BB says “don’t tell me what a player can’t do show me what a player can do.” Hey if DK Metcalf can never do anything except run slants and go routes, doesn’t really matter bc that dude is gonna ball.

 
Yeah, I wasn’t criticizing RP, really, what he does is totally different and should be monetized. My only gripe is that the more basic information gets out there through word of mouth and Twitter guys who can write off their subs as a business expense who then spread the information us average Joes are paying for. The Sicko is the bang for the buck, and it’s too much for this guy at a hundred. I don’t play for cash, so there’s no there there. Not recouping, only pride. 

 
Heard him on the Chris Harris podcast and was considering throwing some money at it. I really just enjoy digging in to stuff like that, but the sicko package seems overpriced. 
 

 
Anarchy99 said:
Here's a general update based on the first week of training camp . . .

Kendrick Bourne has been said to have a ton of receptions and underneath work so far. Rumored to have the most targets and catches so far. He's drawn praise for always being where his QB expects him to be and in position to make catches. What that means for Meyers, who knows. Could be something, could be nothing, but Bourne has been very active in the offense so far.

Agholor has been the one getting open consistently, getting separation on longer to deep routes, and has been hauling in TD passes like it's nobodies business, either from Cam or Mac. He scored 3 times today. Even Harry has been doing well and scoring TD in competitive situations.

Also lots of targets so far to the TEs. I haven't seen or heard much about Meyers not doing well, but he hasn't gotten much commentary or feedback so far.

My fear for Meyers as posted earlier is that with better receiving options than last year, Meyers will lose a ton of targets and become just one of the gang in NE. I am leery to make any conclusions after the first week of training camp, but the way things have gone so far only fits that narrative.
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Just a gut feeling...I think Bourne will turn out to be the WR to own.

 
opensourcebeer said:
Just a gut feeling...I think Bourne will turn out to be the WR to own.
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If things stay the same in the regular season, after a week of practice, the guy to own will be Agholor. He has been the deep threat that has been targeted for bombs and scoring TDs like a video game. He had the dropsies in OTAs, but in training camp he has made circus catches and has been beating anyone that tries to cover him. He even has been getting double covered and getting separation from both guys.

That being said, this is exactly why I try not to watch much of training camp or preseason games, as the regular season typically has a different outcome than camp. The other thing worth noting is that Cam has been flinging the ball all over the place and has MUCH better arm strength so far.

He's been really could on long passes . . . which is maybe what is confusing the defense. He has been going for home run balls pretty consistently and has been extremely accurate way down field. However, while Cam looks a lot better, he still has had throws where he has missed wide open receivers by over throwing them or throwing way behind them. What's noteworthy is those have mostly been timing routes going side to side.

Also noteworthy is that in general, neither Cam or Mac have been putting up good completion percentage numbers. We're talking 50-55%. Maybe that's the defense, maybe that's some confusion with receivers, maybe it's they have been practicing a lot of red zone stuff. Bottom line, the pretty plays have been really good. But a lot of plays have had issues and haven't worked out well.

 
TripItUp said:
This is what I'm hearing as well...let's keep it on the downlow...he's been a steal in best balls.
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I have been mostly quiet on lots of things, but Agholor has been catching TDs from Cam, Mack, Hoyer, and even Dolegala. He went nuts this week. Given his history, he could drop 10 passes next week.

 
Rotoworld:

The Athletic's Jeff Howe reports Jakobi Meyers has been the Patriots' most consistent receiver in training camp.

Meyers and Jonnu Smith have reeled in a team-high 15 passes each during practice time with Cam Newton and the starting offense. While N'Keal Harry has drawn some summer buzz and Nelson Agholor is the new guy in town, Meyers has picked up right where he left off last season as New England's top wideout. Meyers can be had at the end of 12-team fantasy drafts.

Meyers is gonna be a sleeper giant

 
wgoldsph said:
Rotoworld:

The Athletic's Jeff Howe reports Jakobi Meyers has been the Patriots' most consistent receiver in training camp.

Meyers and Jonnu Smith have reeled in a team-high 15 passes each during practice time with Cam Newton and the starting offense. While N'Keal Harry has drawn some summer buzz and Nelson Agholor is the new guy in town, Meyers has picked up right where he left off last season as New England's top wideout. Meyers can be had at the end of 12-team fantasy drafts.

Meyers is gonna be a sleeper giant
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The buzz in camp is all Smith and Agholor. Meyers predominately has had a bunch of short dump offs. Agholor has been hauling in 40-50 yard bombs almost every practice. They are going to find ways to get Smith the ball because of his size, speed, and athleticism. 

NE has been trying to work on pushing the ball down the field more. From what I have seen / read, the sideline dump offs and underneath crosses are there all the time in the base defense they have been running in practice. They don’t really want Jones just settling for those short gainers and they are trying to evaluate Newton’s arm strength. So in this case, I am not sure there is a ton to get excited about over Meyers performance in camp so far. Yes, he is reliable, but we will have to see how that translates once the season starts. 

I still think adding Agholor, Smith, Henry, and Bourne will dramatically cut down on Meyers’ target share compared to 2020 when he was their only legit receiving option. 

I see a lot of 4 catch, 50 yards, 0 TD games forthcoming. Last year, he had 8 of 11 games with 12 or fewer points from his receiving totals in PPR leagues. Most weeks that’s WR4 territory in 12 team leagues. 

Meyers should do better than his ADP, but I am not sure he will do enough to be a regular fantasy starter. 

 
Anarchy99 said:
NE has been trying to work on pushing the ball down the field more. From what I have seen / read, the sideline dump offs and underneath crosses are there all the time in the base defense they have been running in practice. They don’t really want Jones just settling for those short gainers and they are trying to evaluate Newton’s arm strength. So in this case, I am not sure there is a ton to get excited about over Meyers performance in camp so far. Yes, he is reliable, but we will have to see how that translates once the season starts. 
 
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Doesn't this suggest a false-ness to Agholor's buzz?  Do you think they will continue to ignore what the defense gives them come gameday and force it to something else just to see if it works?

 
Hankmoody said:
Doesn't this suggest a false-ness to Agholor's buzz?  Do you think they will continue to ignore what the defense gives them come gameday and force it to something else just to see if it works?
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Agholor has been getting open all over the place and connecting on deep routes no matter who the QB has been. Reading up on daily practice reports, Agholor has been getting 1-2 TD a day. Maybe that is fool's gold, but he is the only receiver that they have not tried putting on special teams at all. Everyone else has been tried at punt or kick returns . . . meaning they consider him a WR only.

Given that the defensive scheme knows that's what they are trying to do and have been double covering him, IMO, it's a good sign that they are regularly completing those throws (especially given that NE is said to have a top secondary). In real action, that will help open up the middle of the field and the running game.

If you watched NE last year, they could not sustain drives with 3-4 yard dump offs. They would have a negative play, a sack, a penalty, etc. and were 3rd and long a lot. Given the skill position players they had and Cam not able to throw the ball 10 yards, that was a recipe for failure. So they would have 3rd and 12 and hit someone for 6 yards. Big whoop.

As far as Meyers goes, IIRC, he had as many targets as the rest of the team combined in his 10 or 11 games where he played a lot (or close to it). Given everyone else that was added, Harry potentially earning playing time, and White used more out of the backfield, I don't see how Meyers can get enough targets to be a regular fantasy contributor. His best attribute fantasy wise is he's cheap to draft / acquire. His ADP is WR74 . . . which he should do much better than that. But if he ranks in the 40s or 50s, does that really help your team much? Agholor is going at WR61. I can see him doing better than last year when he was WR34. Off the top, I think Agholor could be at 60-950-8, which would make him around a low end fantasy WR2.

 
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They don’t really want Jones just settling for those short gainers and they are trying to evaluate Newton’s arm strength.
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Jones in college was all short balls and Cams arm strength has been gone for years.  But that's besides the point, let's say Agholor manages to open up the offense with a handful of long bombs a game that just weren't there.   Defenses will need to stop looking to undercut the short stuff, giving Meyers more room to operate underneath.  The two don't play the same position at WR.  Smith on the other hand is a legitimate concern to Meyers production.  But if we're seeing Agholor is putting up tds which ne couldn't last year, as you said they had a lot of 3 and longs, we can't discount a rising tide raising all boats.  NE has always loved the Amendola/Edelman type and Meyers fits the mold best.  Add to that my personal mantra of trying to draft the guy who the qb looks for when he's under pressure, and there's no doubt in my mind that he'll be able to solve your bye week flex problems at the least, even with an average 5-40-0 line.

As for the rest of nes pass catchers... Bourne isn't even a jag, he's just a nobody.  Harry might experience a third year leap, but ne is terrible at developing wrs, and it wouldn't surprise me to see him eventually become a quality player somewhere else. Henry is already hurt.  White is another year older.  There's a good shot this offense spends another year in the mud.

 
wgoldsph said:
Jones in college was all short balls and Cams arm strength has been gone for years.  But that's besides the point, let's say Agholor manages to open up the offense with a handful of long bombs a game that just weren't there.   Defenses will need to stop looking to undercut the short stuff, giving Meyers more room to operate underneath.  The two don't play the same position at WR.  Smith on the other hand is a legitimate concern to Meyers production.  But if we're seeing Agholor is putting up tds which ne couldn't last year, as you said they had a lot of 3 and longs, we can't discount a rising tide raising all boats.  NE has always loved the Amendola/Edelman type and Meyers fits the mold best.  Add to that my personal mantra of trying to draft the guy who the qb looks for when he's under pressure, and there's no doubt in my mind that he'll be able to solve your bye week flex problems at the least, even with an average 5-40-0 line.

As for the rest of nes pass catchers... Bourne isn't even a jag, he's just a nobody.  Harry might experience a third year leap, but ne is terrible at developing wrs, and it wouldn't surprise me to see him eventually become a quality player somewhere else. Henry is already hurt.  White is another year older.  There's a good shot this offense spends another year in the mud.
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The NE offense should be much better than last year, no matter who the QB is. Cam has looked much better and has added a lot more oomph to his passes. He has hit guys much farther downfield (in training camp) than last year (during the season) and hasn't been throwing the ball 8 yards into the dirt. He has been much quicker to make his reads, has a better grasp of the offense, and does not look as lost. 

That's the good news. The bad news is his accuracy is still spotty and his touch on passes isn't always there. Is he a great option? No. But if they play him (the likely outcome at least to start the season) with all the guys they added they will get more yardage, extend drives, and score more points. The defense should also be greatly improvement, meaning there may be more short fields from turnovers or better field position from opponent punts. I don't think they will look to have games where they just don't pass like last season.

Jones has looked decent for a rookie, but he mostly has been playing against the backup defense and with / against guys that might not even make the 53-man roster. To me, that's way different than getting a lot of run with the 1's. The media here keeps trying to make this a legit QB competition . . . and IMO we aren't really there yet. Jones will have to look markedly better than Cam . . . and since he has only had limited time playing with the starters, for now it still looks like Cam will be the guy.

NE didn't pay $40M in salary to have Agholor, Smith, and Henry all be bystanders. Say what you want about Bourne, but he put up similar numbers to Meyers in a similar amount of targets. Smith's numbers were depressed playing for the Titans and getting underutilized. He's only averaged 42 targets a season. I expect Henry to have numbers similar to last year in LAC (93-60-613-4). For some reason, most people have Smith and Henry putting up pretty equal numbers, but I think Smith will a stronger season than Henry (more yards and TD). Obviously if Jones takes over at QB the team's passing numbers should go up and their running numbers (total carries) would likely come down.

If they stick with Cam, he will either be better than last year or they will move on to Jones . . . and Jones is clearly a better passer. So either way the offense should end up better than last year (unless both guys prove incapable).

IMO, NE will pass 100+ more times than last year (call it 550 attempts) . . . basically 5 more passes per game . I can see Smith-Agholor-Meyers-Henry all getting around 90 targets (if healthy) and maybe 375 targets between them. That leaves 175 targets for Bourne, Harry (if still on the team), White, other backs, and any leftover bit players. At a catch rate of 70% on 90 targets, Meyers would end up with 63 receptions. At 12 yards per reception, that's roughly 750 yards. I doubt he gets shut out of the end zone again, so let's give him 3 TD. That's basically 9.2 PPG in PPR leagues . . . which would be in the WR60 range. Add in a couple of running plays or a trick play passing TD, maybe that gets him up to WR55.

That's how I see it playing out. Maybe I'll be way off, who knows.

 
Jakobi Meyers caught 6-of-9 targets for 44 yards in the Patriots' Week 1 loss to the Dolphins. 

Meyers led the Pats in catches and targets in Mac Jones' NFL debut, though Nelson Agholor took the yardage crown. Jones also targeted seven different players at least three times, confirming that this is going to be a deep, spread-out group. Meyers could get some WR4 PPR juice going as the season gains momentum, but for now he is still best left on re-draft benches. The Jets are an unimposing Week 2 matchup.
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^I think he provides better upside than a WR4. Clearly he is trusted in this offense with the 3rd down conversions alone. 

 
In a balanced game script he got 9 targets, Agholor (7), White (7), Smith (5)....I like that distribution if I'm a Meyers owner with a new QB.  He should be fine going forward.

 
Jakobi Meyers caught 8-of-12 targets for 70 yards in the Patriots' Week 4 loss to the Bucs.

Meyers also completed two passes for 45 yards on gadget plays. The Patriots aired it out again this week, dialing up 40 pass attempts for Mac Jones. Meyers has been the centerpiece of New England's offense with 26 targets over the last two games. That should continue for a Week 5 matchup with the Texans secondary.

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Love the targets he is seeing, but he only gets the short routes. He is definitely the most trusted WR on the Pats right now. He looked good throwing the ball too. 

 
Fun fact.

Jakobi Meyers needs 38 yards in his next game to break the all time record of most receiving yards without scoring a touchdown.
 

Which is currently owned by Gerald Riggs at 1,516 yards.

Riggs did it on 129 games played and 201 receptions.

Meyers has 36 games played, 126 receptions and 1,478 yards.

37 yard TD to open the game this week incoming!!!

 
Jakobi Meyers caught 1-of-4 targets for eight yards in the Patriots' Week 9 win over the Panthers. 

With Mac Jones completing only 12 passes in a lopsided, run-dominated Patriots victory, Meyers caught fewer than four balls for the first time all year. Today was also the first time he posted fewer than 36 yards, though that 36-yard effort came in Week 8. Bereft of ceiling, Meyers' floor is unappealing because of his famed aversion to touchdowns. He will remain an empty-calorie WR4 for Week 10 vs. Cleveland. 

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Y'all want this party started, right?!

Y'all want this party started, quickly, right?!

This was a party while it lasted. 

 
ESPN Boston's Mike Reiss expects restricted free agent Jakobi Meyers to be given a second-round tender by the Patriots if the sides do not agree to an extension before free agency. 

The second-round tender is projected to be worth $3.986 million this season. The 25-year-old former undrafted free agent led the Pats in both catches (83) and receiving yards (866) in 2021, but that says as much about the Patriots as it does Meyers. Although he could be a solid No. 2 or 3 wideout, Meyers should not be the No. 1 for a team trying to break in a new franchise quarterback. There's a strong chance 2021 goes down as Meyers' compiling career year. The Pats are not against bold reinvention, but the fact they have so little receiving talent does essentially guarantee they will tender Meyers at a high level. 

SOURCE: ESPN Boston 

Feb 20, 2022, 10:22 AM ET
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Patriots extended a second-round tender to restricted free agent WR Jakobi Meyers.

This was rumored after the Super Bowl and came to fruition today. Meyers is more of a PPR fantasy option than a mainstay, but he finally ran into some touchdown regression towards the end of last season. If the Patriots don't add another receiver, he should again be a fairly involved part of the offense in 2022. Meyers is coming off a career-high 83/866/2 slash line and has always been fairly trustworthy for the Patriots under Josh McDaniels. 

SOURCE: Adam Schefter on Twitter

Mar 13, 2022, 2:33 PM ET
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Patriots signed WR Jakobi Meyers to a one-year $3.97 million restricted free agent tender.

Meyers is now scheduled to hit unrestricted free agency in 2023. Although, it's possible he works out a long-term deal with the Patriots before the end of the season. Entering his age-26 season, Meyers has demolished his early-career expectations as an undrafted free agent out of North Carolina State. For the second straight season, Meyers led the Patriots in targets, receptions, and yards in 2021. Meyers plays primarily out of the slot but has played at least 33% of his snaps out wide in each of the last two seasons, displaying the versatility needed to move around the formation. The Patriots' wide receiver depth chart is crowded entering 2022, with second-round rookie Tyquan Thornton and DeVante Parker joining the team, and with Nelson Agholor and Kendrick Bourne still in the mix. Meyers looks like the best bet to be a consistent feature of the passing game.

RELATED: 

Tyquan Thornton

, DeVante Parker

, Nelson Agholor

, Kendrick Bourne

SOURCE: Adam Schefter on Twitter

Jun 13, 2022, 3:02 PM ET
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I’ve been picking him up late in drafts. Seems like a candidate for some healthy targets and a positive TD regression. Most of the news out of camp is that he will be the main target in the offense. If not, he will be an easy drop 3-4 weeks into the season.
 
candian fantasy guy said:
I’ve been picking him up late in drafts. Seems like a candidate for some healthy targets and a positive TD regression. Most of the news out of camp is that he will be the main target in the offense. If not, he will be an easy drop 3-4 weeks into the season.
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There is very little consensus on the NE target breakdown. At WR, Parker was the talk of camp for a while. Then Agholor. Thornton was getting rave reviews but got hurt. Meyers had a good day yesterday so now he's getting some love. The only one that has gotten little to no praise is Bourne . . . and he was their most explosive threat last year.

The second most receptions in camp went to . . . Jonnu Smith. But Henry has hauled in some red zone receptions. Harris and Stevenson have seen a lot of targets out of the backfield, yet Ty Montgomery seems to be used as a true receiver out of the backfield. Based on that, people should be doing cartwheels that the Patriots offense should be high flying.

Yet most days, the reports from camp have been that the offensive as a whole has been abysmal and the OL has been mostly dysfunctional. As in they've had some of the worst practices in the 23 years that BB has been there. Add in the Matt Patricia is serving as offensive coordinator talk, and it's easy to worry about the offense.

It's hard to get a read on what's really going on and how things will shape up. Meyers has averaged 7.4 targets a game since becoming a starter. Adding Parker and Thornton, giving more looks to Smith, and utilizing the backs out of the backfield more probably won't increase his target share. However, that might be offset by Jones throwing the ball more this year.

I doubt Meyers will see a jump in targets, but 7 targets a game seems pretty reasonable. But I don't see him getting way more targets than others. I think they will spread the targets out to a lot of different people.
 
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