WR Ja'Marr Chase, CIN (2 Viewers)

[oswizzle]

Hope he’s not just a decoy for Boyd to light it up

 

[BobbyLayne]

Had a feeling this could be painful

all three of my starting WR had a goose egg 1st Q to start the 1pm games (Chase, Olave, Jayden Reed)

 

[Sunday Gravy]

Hope he’s not just a decoy for Boyd to light it up

Pretty sure he is mostly a decoy but not for Boyd. Trenton Irwin has Burrow's attention.

 

[oswizzle]

 

[BobbyLayne]

Had a feeling this could be painful

all three of my starting WR had a goose egg 1st Q to start the 1pm games (Chase, Olave, Jayden Reed)

like I said this will probably work out

all 3 WR have TDs now and Burrow to Chase for 64 (have both) just won the week for me

 

[karl.Racki]

So what is the outcome for Chase going forward with Burrow out? I get some might think he is not benchable , but IMO iff you have a better option, I would bench him.

I got Aiyuk, Dell, and Downs with Chase and thinking Chase might be #4 as I expect his production is going to take a massive hit. I know I might be burnt, but I just can't risk losing another game and believe the other 3 might be better options.

What are you Chase owners doing?

 

[BobbyLayne]

What are you Chase owners doing?

Accepting that he’ll be a WR2/Wr3 ROS. Best case scenario.

Trade deadline is tomorrow. I also own Burrow. Goff is my new QB, so trying like hell to acquire ARSB from the last place team to form a new stack.

 

[FarFromHome]

Young, inexperienced QBs go in one of two paths when they have an elite wr:

Target the hell out of him. The QB wants to do well and concludes that forcing it to an elite talent that guy will make plays.

Be scared to death of the coverage and avoid him. Or keep targets short.

Hard to say how this plays out. Only thing we know for sure is Burrow going down kills all Bengals offensive players. Bench him? Can't imagine a roster that would bench him. Best case scenario he is downgraded, but still puts up wr2 numbers. Worst case scenario he has wr3 numbers. I just can't see him dropping out of top 30. No way. Imo

 

[rockaction]

What are you Chase owners doing?

Shaking my damn head.

In all honesty, if you think you have three better guys, play them. That's what I would do. One word of caution, though. When I was thinking of sitting Davante Adams against San Francisco (great pass defense last year against fantasy opponents) in Week 17 when Jarrett Stidham took the helm for the Raiders, Adams scored 34.5 points. He won me the championship. Sometimes, you gotta play your studs.

 

[bj diggy]

What are you Chase owners doing?

Shaking my damn head.

In all honesty, if you think you have three better guys, play them. That's what I would do. One word of caution, though. When I was thinking of sitting Davante Adams against San Francisco (great pass defense last year against fantasy opponents) in Week 17 when Jarrett Stidham took the helm for the Raiders, Adams scored 34.5 points. He won me the championship. Sometimes, you gotta play your studs.

Well, Devante Adams has been better with AOC..not a direct comparison, but the point is we just don't know yet. Chase might just be hyper targeted now...

 

[Truebluey]

So what is the outcome for Chase going forward with Burrow out? I get some might think he is not benchable , but IMO iff you have a better option, I would bench him.

I got Aiyuk, Dell, and Downs with Chase and thinking Chase might be #4 as I expect his production is going to take a massive hit. I know I might be burnt, but I just can't risk losing another game and believe the other 3 might be better options.

What are you Chase owners doing?

RoS the Jags and Steelers are both bottom 5 in the league in passing yards allowed, Indy and Minny are bottom half and certainly exploitable. Some skepticism is understandable but a lot of people seem panicked.

I wouldn’t be.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Be scared to death of the coverage and avoid him. Or keep targets short.

not to be a debbie downer, but this is honestly the most likely outcome

Browning is a career backup game manager who just never displayed starter traits in college (John Ross was the reason for his outstanding sophomore season) and has bounced around practice squads for nearly 5 years

 

[jm192]

So what is the outcome for Chase going forward with Burrow out? I get some might think he is not benchable , but IMO iff you have a better option, I would bench him.

I got Aiyuk, Dell, and Downs with Chase and thinking Chase might be #4 as I expect his production is going to take a massive hit. I know I might be burnt, but I just can't risk losing another game and believe the other 3 might be better options.

What are you Chase owners doing?

RoS the Jags and Steelers are both bottom 5 in the league in passing yards allowed, Indy and Minny are bottom half and certainly exploitable. Some skepticism is understandable but a lot of people seem panicked.

I wouldn’t be.

I certainly agree those defenses can be passed on.

But, he seemed to hold onto the ball too long or be too late to identify the open man. I worry the Steelers pass rush eats him alive. Maybe with more game experience, he gets a bit quicker.

I will say, I was really impressed at the zip on his throws. I expected him to look terrible in every facet, and he was firing the ball to the receivers.

Getting Higgins back probably also helps. He'll have another big, talented receiver to throw it to--which will also pull defense away from Chase.

 

[jm192]

So what is the outcome for Chase going forward with Burrow out? I get some might think he is not benchable , but IMO iff you have a better option, I would bench him.

I got Aiyuk, Dell, and Downs with Chase and thinking Chase might be #4 as I expect his production is going to take a massive hit. I know I might be burnt, but I just can't risk losing another game and believe the other 3 might be better options.

What are you Chase owners doing?

I agree with Aiyuk and Dell. I think I'd have to ride Chase over Downs and just view Chase as a supremely high upside WR3.

 

[JohnnyU]

I'm thankful that in the leagues where I'm not doing well and have Chase, it really doesn't matter to me he doesn't have Burrow the remainder of the season. Here is hoping for a healthy Burrow in 2024!!! I feel for those that are in contention and have Chase. This game can be cruel.

 

[jm192]

What are you Chase owners doing?

Accepting that he’ll be a WR2/Wr3 ROS. Best case scenario.

Trade deadline is tomorrow. I also own Burrow. Goff is my new QB, so trying like hell to acquire ARSB from the last place team to form a new stack.

My thoughts too.

I'm going to plan on WR2/WR3 production and hope his talent overcomes. But, we'll keep riding until the season is over.

 

[rockaction]

You know what I'm going to do in the league I have Ja'Marr Chase? Hope that Aidan O'Connell and Davante Adams become blood brothers and that Aidan keeps dialing Davante up.

Somehow, I think I'm sunk.

 

[BobbyLayne]

What are you Chase owners doing?

Accepting that he’ll be a WR2/Wr3 ROS. Best case scenario.

Trade deadline is tomorrow. I also own Burrow. Goff is my new QB, so trying like hell to acquire ARSB from the last place team to form a new stack.

My thoughts too.

I'm going to plan on WR2/WR3 production and hope his talent overcomes. But, we'll keep riding until the season is over.

The one thing that is giving me some hope is matchups. FFPA to WRs rank of remaining games:

• PIT (7th)
• at JAX (13th)
• IND (19th)
• MIN (8th)
• at PIT 7th)
• at KC (27th)

 

[jm192]

What are you Chase owners doing?

Accepting that he’ll be a WR2/Wr3 ROS. Best case scenario.

Trade deadline is tomorrow. I also own Burrow. Goff is my new QB, so trying like hell to acquire ARSB from the last place team to form a new stack.

My thoughts too.

I'm going to plan on WR2/WR3 production and hope his talent overcomes. But, we'll keep riding until the season is over.

The one thing that is giving me some hope is matchups. FFPA to WRs rank of remaining games:

• PIT (7th)
• at JAX (13th)
• IND (19th)
• MIN (8th)
• at PIT 7th)
• at KC (27th)

I was so hyped for that KC Matchup in the Finals.

In actuality, the KC defense has become super stout and it may have been a 24-20 game. But I remember salivating over it during best ball draft season. Which reminds me, RIP to all my Bengals stacks in best ball lol.

 

[BobbyLayne]

What are you Chase owners doing?

Accepting that he’ll be a WR2/Wr3 ROS. Best case scenario.

Trade deadline is tomorrow. I also own Burrow. Goff is my new QB, so trying like hell to acquire ARSB from the last place team to form a new stack.

My thoughts too.

I'm going to plan on WR2/WR3 production and hope his talent overcomes. But, we'll keep riding until the season is over.

The one thing that is giving me some hope is matchups. FFPA to WRs rank of remaining games:

• PIT (7th)
• at JAX (13th)
• IND (19th)
• MIN (8th)
• at PIT 7th)
• at KC (27th)

I was so hyped for that KC Matchup in the Finals.

In actuality, the KC defense has become super stout and it may have been a 24-20 game. But I remember salivating over it during best ball draft season. Which reminds me, RIP to all my Bengals stacks in best ball lol.

Yeah I’m still gonna fight like hell but my ability to win a title this year hinged on Burrow-Chase. Oh well, trade deadline passed & it’s time to dance with the one who brought ya.

Sort of. Gosh this is deflating lol.

 

[Judge Smails]

Our trade deadline is this week. I’m looking at packaging my backup QB (Lawrence - after Burrow injury and Stroud trade his starter is Heinecke with trash on the wire) and a WR2 type to get an upgrade at WR. Not thrilled with what I’m getting from Olave, Waddle and Kirk as my starting 3. AJ Brown is my first choice. He also has Chase. I’m trying to compare what those offers have to be. Obviously less for Chase. But if truly is a WR3/flex play it may not make sense. Complete buy low and betting on he gets fed

 

[rockaction]

But if truly is a WR3/flex play it may not make sense.

That's probably about what he is. I wouldn't count on him getting fed immediately. That stuff takes time.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

But if truly is a WR3/flex play it may not make sense.

That's probably about what he is. I wouldn't count on him getting fed immediately. That stuff takes time.

I’m likely benching him for Ridley this week.

I hate to do it, as one slant can go to the house, or as we saw this week, he’s an easy RZ target.

But man it’s gonna be hard to trust him without Burrow as a TD or bust type WR.

WR3 is a bit generous. At this point he’s a flex.

I’m actually slightly more optimistic for Higgins when he returns, as his size presents a nice target for a dink & dunk QB.

 

[BobbyLayne]

his projection this week is 16.56 v a Steelers defense that gives up the 7th most points to WR in full PPR. That's two full points below Weeks 10 & 11 when he was facing the 20th & 24th defenses in FFPA2WRs, and about 5 points below what you would normally see in a plus matchup with Burrow at QB.

Imma have a good cry before I go in today.

 

[Faust]

ESPN’s Dan Graziano reports the Bengals will try to run their offense “as usual” with Jake Browning at QB.

The Bengals lost Joe Burrow to a season-ending wrist injury in Week 11. Graziano said the “Cincinnati coaching staff believes Browning, who has been with the team since 2021, can operate all facets of the offense and that it won’t have to alter its game planning or playcalling with Browning in the game.” Graziano conceded the pass-heavy Bengals could lean on Joe Mixon and the running game a little more with Burrow sidelined. But they’ll try to make it work with Browning, who completed eight of 14 passes for 68 yards and a touchdown in relief of Burrow last week. The Bengals would do well to pepper Ja’Marr Chase with targets. Four of Browning’s 14 attempts against the Ravens last week went to Chase.

 

[efactor]

But if truly is a WR3/flex play it may not make sense.

That's probably about what he is. I wouldn't count on him getting fed immediately. That stuff takes time.

I’m likely benching him for Ridley this week.

I hate to do it, as one slant can go to the house, or as we saw this week, he’s an easy RZ target.

But man it’s gonna be hard to trust him without Burrow as a TD or bust type WR.

WR3 is a bit generous. At this point he’s a flex.

I’m actually slightly more optimistic for Higgins when he returns, as his size presents a nice target for a dink & dunk QB.

IMO, saying WR 3 is "generous" is a severe overreaction.

The fact that Browning knows the offense is a positive as is having the extra days to prepare and getting half a game worth of reps last week.

Obviously he gets a downgrade, but hard to believe there are 24 WRs I would start over him and surely not 36 if you are talking start 3 WR leagues.

Dynasty or keeper would make a difference as teams may be stacked at WR

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

IMO, saying WR 3 is "generous" is a severe overreaction.

The fact that Browning knows the offense is a positive as is having the extra days to prepare and getting half a game worth of reps last week.

Obviously he gets a downgrade, but hard to believe there are 24 WRs I would start over him and surely not 36 if you are talking start 3 WR leagues.

Dynasty or keeper would make a difference as teams may be stacked at WR

I may be starting Chase this week.

For me he’s my WR3 now after Lamb & ARSB.

Based on what I saw, I’m very nervous about starting him over Ridley or Nico. But you’re right - Browning might be better than he looked last week.

Or he might be what we saw last week.

I certainly wouldn’t be shocked if Chase was in the WR25-30 range with Browning under center, but we all have our opinions.

 

[efactor]

IMO, saying WR 3 is "generous" is a severe overreaction.

The fact that Browning knows the offense is a positive as is having the extra days to prepare and getting half a game worth of reps last week.

Obviously he gets a downgrade, but hard to believe there are 24 WRs I would start over him and surely not 36 if you are talking start 3 WR leagues.

Dynasty or keeper would make a difference as teams may be stacked at WR

I may be starting Chase this week.

For me he’s my WR3 now after Lamb & ARSB.

Based on what I saw, I’m very nervous about starting him over Ridley or Nico. But you’re right - Browning might be better than he looked last week.

Or he might be what we saw last week.

I certainly wouldn’t be shocked if Chase was in the WR25-30 range with Browning under center, but we all have our opinions.

Hoping Taylor realizes that his defense isn't good enough to win games on their own and just runs his offense.

 

[BobbyLayne]

IMO, saying WR 3 is "generous" is a severe overreaction.

The fact that Browning knows the offense is a positive as is having the extra days to prepare and getting half a game worth of reps last week.

Obviously he gets a downgrade, but hard to believe there are 24 WRs I would start over him and surely not 36 if you are talking start 3 WR leagues.

Dynasty or keeper would make a difference as teams may be stacked at WR

I may be starting Chase this week.

For me he’s my WR3 now after Lamb & ARSB.

Based on what I saw, I’m very nervous about starting him over Ridley or Nico. But you’re right - Browning might be better than he looked last week.

Or he might be what we saw last week.

I certainly wouldn’t be shocked if Chase was in the WR25-30 range with Browning under center, but we all have our opinions.

Hoping Taylor realizes that his defense isn't good enough to win games on their own and just runs his offense.

I think I'm benching him for Olave. I don 't think there is any realistic hope that Jake Browning is going to be able to get him the ball versus the Steelers.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

IMO, saying WR 3 is "generous" is a severe overreaction.

The fact that Browning knows the offense is a positive as is having the extra days to prepare and getting half a game worth of reps last week.

Obviously he gets a downgrade, but hard to believe there are 24 WRs I would start over him and surely not 36 if you are talking start 3 WR leagues.

Dynasty or keeper would make a difference as teams may be stacked at WR

I may be starting Chase this week.

For me he’s my WR3 now after Lamb & ARSB.

Based on what I saw, I’m very nervous about starting him over Ridley or Nico. But you’re right - Browning might be better than he looked last week.

Or he might be what we saw last week.

I certainly wouldn’t be shocked if Chase was in the WR25-30 range with Browning under center, but we all have our opinions.

Hoping Taylor realizes that his defense isn't good enough to win games on their own and just runs his offense.

I think I'm benching him for Olave. I don 't think there is any realistic hope that Jake Browning is going to be able to get him the ball versus the Steelers.

Minkah is out, so there’s that. But yeah, I’m hoping the Bengals hit a quick WR screen that Chase takes to the house.

 

[kyoun1e]

IMO, saying WR 3 is "generous" is a severe overreaction.

The fact that Browning knows the offense is a positive as is having the extra days to prepare and getting half a game worth of reps last week.

Obviously he gets a downgrade, but hard to believe there are 24 WRs I would start over him and surely not 36 if you are talking start 3 WR leagues.

Dynasty or keeper would make a difference as teams may be stacked at WR

I may be starting Chase this week.

For me he’s my WR3 now after Lamb & ARSB.

Based on what I saw, I’m very nervous about starting him over Ridley or Nico. But you’re right - Browning might be better than he looked last week.

Or he might be what we saw last week.

I certainly wouldn’t be shocked if Chase was in the WR25-30 range with Browning under center, but we all have our opinions.

Browning at QB and doesn't Porter shadow?

Seems like he should be downgraded.

Then again, I'm facing him so everyone should start him.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Then again, I'm facing him so everyone should start him.

This is an post

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I’ve got Nico Collins staring at me every time I look at my lineup - practically begging me to swap him for Chase.

Gah

 

[JohnnyU]

I don’t care if Burrow is out, he can still be the father of my kids

 

[BobbyLayne]

IMO, saying WR 3 is "generous" is a severe overreaction.

The fact that Browning knows the offense is a positive as is having the extra days to prepare and getting half a game worth of reps last week.

Obviously he gets a downgrade, but hard to believe there are 24 WRs I would start over him and surely not 36 if you are talking start 3 WR leagues.

Dynasty or keeper would make a difference as teams may be stacked at WR

I may be starting Chase this week.

For me he’s my WR3 now after Lamb & ARSB.

Based on what I saw, I’m very nervous about starting him over Ridley or Nico. But you’re right - Browning might be better than he looked last week.

Or he might be what we saw last week.

I certainly wouldn’t be shocked if Chase was in the WR25-30 range with Browning under center, but we all have our opinions.

Hoping Taylor realizes that his defense isn't good enough to win games on their own and just runs his offense.

I think I'm benching him for Olave. I don 't think there is any realistic hope that Jake Browning is going to be able to get him the ball versus the Steelers.

Minkah is out, so there’s that. But yeah, I’m hoping the Bengals hit a quick WR screen that Chase takes to the house.

JPJ said he'll be shadowing him.

We don't get points for DPI or IC.

 

[FarFromHome]

I’ve got Nico Collins staring at me every time I look at my lineup - practically begging me to swap him for Chase.

Gah

Dont do it. One of those scenarios where if u bench Nico and he does well you smile it off. You bench Chase and he does well u get angry at yourself because why in the world would u bench Ja'maar Chase. Ha ha

 

[Faust]

Bridget Condon

Ja’Marr Chase says the time he spent with Jake Browning during training camp (when Joe Burrow was dealing with a calf injury) has helped a lot. The two will lean on that experience again today especially with Tee Higgins out for the third-straight game. #Bengals #WhoDey

https://twitter.com/bridgetcondon_/status/1728782842723741966?s=21

 

[BobbyLayne]

 

[BobbyLayne]

Two of his four receptions last week were interceptions that were tipped to him.

We just rolling him out and hoping for good outcomes going forward?

 

[finfansteve]

Two of his four receptions last week were interceptions that were tipped to him.

We just rolling him out and hoping for good outcomes going forward?

I’m not sure what to do with him at this point. How does a potential Super Bowl team not have a competent backup to their starter at the most important position in sports?

 

[Sunday Gravy]

Two of his four receptions last week were interceptions that were tipped to him.

We just rolling him out and hoping for good outcomes going forward?

I’m not sure what to do with him at this point. How does a potential Super Bowl team not have a competent backup to their starter at the most important position in sports?

Lots of really gross backup qbs around the league. I remember back in the day big time teams would be able to lose a qb and still compete at a high level.

 

[Sunday Gravy]

Not sure if you guys football, but sometimes a rookie takes more than one game to get rolling. I am a Chase owner in 2 of my 3 leagues, and I hate this situation as much as anyone - but throwing in the cards after the rookie looks imperfect after playing CLE/BAL/PITT? Pretty lazy..

Browning got considerable work in camp, it may not happen, but there's a case a rookie can improve a little playing lighter D's next 3 weeks after 2 NFL starts. Among 30 qualifying quarterbacks last week, he finished fourth in yards per attempt, 18th in CPOE, 12th in adjusted completion rate, and 25th in aDOT. It does get a lot worse...

PS: I am still very very angry about this whole situation.

You talking about Jake Browning? He's 27 and in his like 5th season in the league.

 

[JoeJoe88]

Not sure if you guys football, but sometimes a rookie takes more than one game to get rolling. I am a Chase owner in 2 of my 3 leagues, and I hate this situation as much as anyone - but throwing in the cards after the rookie looks imperfect after playing CLE/BAL/PITT? Pretty lazy..

Browning got considerable work in camp, it may not happen, but there's a case a rookie can improve a little playing lighter D's next 3 weeks after 2 NFL starts. Among 30 qualifying quarterbacks last week, he finished fourth in yards per attempt, 18th in CPOE, 12th in adjusted completion rate, and 25th in aDOT. It does get a lot worse...

PS: I am still very very angry about this whole situation.

You talking about Jake Browning? He's 27 and in his like 5th season in the league.

You asking others if they even watch football, yet you think Browning is a rookie?

 

[MCFootball123]

Had this guy mixed

Not sure if you guys football, but sometimes a rookie takes more than one game to get rolling. I am a Chase owner in 2 of my 3 leagues, and I hate this situation as much as anyone - but throwing in the cards after the rookie looks imperfect after playing CLE/BAL/PITT? Pretty lazy..

Browning got considerable work in camp, it may not happen, but there's a case a rookie can improve a little playing lighter D's next 3 weeks after 2 NFL starts. Among 30 qualifying quarterbacks last week, he finished fourth in yards per attempt, 18th in CPOE, 12th in adjusted completion rate, and 25th in aDOT. It does get a lot worse...

PS: I am still very very angry about this whole situation.

You talking about Jake Browning? He's 27 and in his like 5th season in the league.

You asking others if they even watch football, yet you think Browning is a rookie?

It's true I didn't look before posting.

He hasn't played so it all still essentially applies.

 

[rockaction]

Back to Ja'Marr Chase and assuming we all watch football.

BL makes the point that two of his biggest gainers were off tip drills with the defense. I saw them, and I was concerned by the same thing. His day was merely okay for Chase, and those were fluky touches. He's tremendously lucky to have gotten them.

On a more positive note, I see that Jax is 19th in the league at allowing wide receiver points. So it's not a lockdown type of defense. That should at least give one hope this week.

 

[VikingFrog]

Back to Ja'Marr Chase and assuming we all watch football.

BL makes the point that two of his biggest gainers were off tip drills with the defense. I saw them, and I was concerned by the same thing. His day was merely okay for Chase, and those were fluky touches. He's tremendously lucky to have gotten them.

On a more positive note, I see that Jax is 19th in the league at allowing wide receiver points. So it's not a lockdown type of defense. That should at least give one hope this week.

Hope is what I need tonight.

Need Chase to have just a middling/decent game.

But I have no idea what to expect from Browning.

 

[grateful zed]

need chase to score < 7.5 pts

 

[nirad3]

Back to Ja'Marr Chase and assuming we all watch football.

BL makes the point that two of his biggest gainers were off tip drills with the defense. I saw them, and I was concerned by the same thing. His day was merely okay for Chase, and those were fluky touches. He's tremendously lucky to have gotten them.

On a more positive note, I see that Jax is 19th in the league at allowing wide receiver points. So it's not a lockdown type of defense. That should at least give one hope this week.

Hope is what I need tonight.

Need Chase to have just a middling/decent game.

But I have no idea what to expect from Browning.

I would prefer something like 6/80/1 from Chase. Possible? Sure. Probable? Nah.

 

[MCFootball123]

You guys need to have faith in some week to week improvements for Jakey Spin Rate

 

[nirad3]

You guys need to have faith in some week to week improvements for Jakey Spin Rate

I'm actually starting him in a superflex where I had no other QB options this week. I'm hoping for 250/2.