need2know
Footballguy
It's strange
I thought he was really hurt a few weeks ago. Then he has that nice game at Buffalo. Then 2 straight stinkers. If he's that hurt, sit him down and let him get healthy.
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I thought he was really hurt a few weeks ago. Then he has that nice game at Buffalo. Then 2 straight stinkers. If he's that hurt, sit him down and let him get healthy.
Capella
Footballguy
Previous 2 weeks he didn't practice at all except light tossing on Friday. Played the whole game each week but it was noticeable he was hurt. Then this week he practices all week and can't complete the game.
Feels like Dirk and Light are putting his health ahead of things in order to save their jobs, which are done now anyways.
need2know
Footballguy
Gracchi Bros
Footballguy
This guy has murdered Evans and Martin. I have to seriously think of benching Evans for Shepard because of this jackass. Unreal.
SproutDaddy
Footballguy
Not only does he suck, he has no class.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T9ytL_4GJ8&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T9ytL_4GJ8&feature=youtu.be
The jab at the back of lattimore's helmet was an attempt at sneaking it in hoping no one would notice. Very similar to the now famous sneaky headbutt last year. He has serious mental problems that need addressed.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
I thought he did a good job of taking responsibility for his play, instead of blaming the coaches, other players or even his shoulder.
Ditka Butkus
Footballguy
He has gone as far as his physical ability can take him...now he has to develop the mental ability to take the next step...Unfortunately as we were reminded yesterday that is highly unlikely to happen...He has and continues to make bad decisions in all facets of his life.
Ditka Butkus
Footballguy
JIMGET
Footballguy
He is Blake Bortels, only a bigger d-bag. Garbage time is great for fantasy football, but the bucs will never win with this turd.
Prior to the Buffalo game he was dealing with AC joint sprain. In the Buffalo game it is believed he suffered a rotator cuff strain.
Doc Chao believes he took a hit in the second quarter yesterday which re-aggravated the initial AC joint sprain.
So in summary he's been dealing with two shoulder issues, trying to gut it out and re-aggravated one of the injuries yesterday.
But to your point on the last line he should not be playing right now and it's kind of irresponsible treatment of your franchise QB to put him out there when he's dealing with two shoulder issues, especially when the shoulder issues are impacting his ability to throw.
None of this is to brush aside his poor decisions making, but he is trying to play through multiple injuries and it's impacting his ability to pass.
hamsterdam
Footballguy
I feel there are a lot of salty TB skill position owners that are throwing dirt on Jameis.
Kid has been playing through injury the past 3 weeks, one that isn't pleasant to play through as a QB. Perhaps Dirk and Licht are forcing the issue.
He obviously needs to improve mentally but the kid is still a full year younger than Wentz. Plenty of time to improve.
Kid has been playing through injury the past 3 weeks, one that isn't pleasant to play through as a QB. Perhaps Dirk and Licht are forcing the issue.
He obviously needs to improve mentally but the kid is still a full year younger than Wentz. Plenty of time to improve.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
packer_junkie
Footballguy
Name another qb that would have done what he did yesterday?
Get pissed and talk--- tons of them. But to follow him and poke him in the head to point him away. down 30-3? I can't think of one?
He stinks.
jabarony
Footballguy
What a clown.https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/watch-jameis-winston-pumps-up-buccaneers-with-one-of-the-weirdest-pregame-speeches/
Not only does he embarrass himself on the field, he embarrasses himself before the games.
I tend to go back and forth on what is more pathetic, the on field play or the off field behavior. Today it's the latter.
Ditka Butkus
Footballguy
He didn't look too hurt when he reached out and tapped Lattimore on the head and then proceeded to want to join in the fight.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
I can’t defend him today.
Tommy Collins
Footballguy
That pregame video of him eating a W is concerning. He has a crazed look in his eyes. Dude is not right.
C'mon over to the winning side. There's no shame in admitting that this guy is a bust. I've beat many at QB analysis. Carr, Tebow, Vince Young (that one took a while), Russell. The only reason my 3 year projection isn't going to happen is because they won't give up yet even though they want to. This will hurt them even more as some quality QBs are coming out this year.Grahamburn said:
Grahamburn
Footballguy
What’s the point of shutting him down for “a few weeks?” Just shut him down for the season. He needs to take a step back and evaluate some things.
As an Eagles fan, I remember the excitement when Nick Foles had his 27 TD, 2 int year. Finding a QB is the hardest thing to do I thought we found our guy. Took a lot of bad games the following year to realize that he was not the guy and we were back to the drawing board. I'm getting that sense when I watch Winston. He showed a few flashes that made it seem like he might be a good one, but this year, he's taken the road that Foles took and he's looking like a very average player. Add to that, his obvious mental shortcomings, and I think the Bucs may be back to looking QB in this year's draft.
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Ghost Rider
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He's not a bust yet. Not even close.
That said, I don't think he has the personality or temperament to be a longtime franchise QB. A franchise QB has to have the maturity and brains to not go on the field and provoke a brawl by poking an opponent in the back of his head. Can you imagine Brady, Rodgers, Wilson, Brees, etc. EVER doing something like that?
That said, I don't think he has the personality or temperament to be a longtime franchise QB. A franchise QB has to have the maturity and brains to not go on the field and provoke a brawl by poking an opponent in the back of his head. Can you imagine Brady, Rodgers, Wilson, Brees, etc. EVER doing something like that?
WheelsUp
Footballguy
Crazed look in his eyes? lol Video was weird, but concerning? I will never get over the high expectations of people who play football for a living. Brees does a weird chant that means nothing before a game, I would think a stud QB doing a jibberish chant would be concerning, but I remember these guys get bashed int he head for a living.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Visit with Dr. James Andrews yesterday.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
ruh ro. Dropped him in both of my leagues (too little, too late for me) and feel very good about it.
Don't Noonan
Footballguy
I have heard from a good source that he tore his labia
need2know
Footballguy
He has always been one. Now he's both. Bucs would be wise to cut him and grab one of the top guys coming out. They blew it with this pick. Could have waited and had Wentz or Goff. Lets see if they make another huge mistake, hang their careers on this guy and let other teams also pass them by with better QBs. My guess is they stick with a loser.#Bucs QB Jameis Winston visited Dr. James Andrews in Pensacola yesterday, according to the Pensacola News Journal
let's all keep pretending he's not hurt and just sucks though
They need to review the crazy pregame video and see if he got his hand stuck in his mouth and tore something in his shoulder trying to pull it out.
Headbutts, pre game going nuts, poking other players, gonna miss his antics. Too bad Ringling Bros closed up.
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Ruh Roh
Dr James Andrews is never "standard protocol" - would anyone be shocked to hear the words "shoulder surgery" in the next few weeks?
JaxBill
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Dr James Andrews is never "precautionary".
Remember when we all thought "oh, he confirmed Sam Bradford's knee didn't have any further damage - whew, dodged a bullet there!" - I was one of them. And it was considered incredibly rare to hear a non-fatal diagnosis from Dr Andrews.
fast forward to "knee scope, IR".
Dr Death & "precautionary" never belong in the same sentence.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I agree it's too early to call him a bust. We've seen quality football from him. The potential is 100% real.
JaxBill
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Ah - my bad.
Let me just find that dial, *click click click* and yeeeeeah, ok. We're good here.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
Osaurus
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