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***2018 Dallas Cowboys*** (3 Viewers)
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rockaction
Footballguy
I still can't believe the Bailey deal. You gave up a guy who was money from fifty-five on in for a guy who kicks 78%. In the CFL.
Survivor7700
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
Survivor7700
Footballguy
I think Bailey is much better than Jason Myers. I don't think Cowboys fans are happy with the move of getting rid of Bailey though.
rockaction
Footballguy
I don't think the Cowboys' fans are happy at all -- and if the Jets just pony up and pay the man, they'll have a top-five kicker in the game, easily.
I hope they do it.
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STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
Can’t say I’m not shocked but I’m not unhappy about it.
Hes been on a 3 year decline and no longer worth paying as an elite kicker.
I don’t blame them. The dude that replaced him has been kicking 65 yarders.
Are CFL goalposts the same as NFL?
rockaction
Footballguy
It's probably more like a two-year decline, one due to injury.
The goalposts, I think, are the same, so your implied point is taken. The field is wider in the CFL, but the posts do not correlate with the hashmarks, if I'm not mistaken.
78% is a terrible rate. I think this also might be about cap money, though I'm unaware of your situation.
The goalposts, I think, are the same, so your implied point is taken. The field is wider in the CFL, but the posts do not correlate with the hashmarks, if I'm not mistaken.
78% is a terrible rate. I think this also might be about cap money, though I'm unaware of your situation.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
They have 19.5 million free. We’re all starting to think a move is coming. Maybe they trade for someone or get someone lockuped up long term.
rockaction
Footballguy
That's interesting. Well, good luck, man.
As soon as I saw that Bailey was due $3.4 million and $3.5 subsequently, my antennae told me it probably had something to do with that as opposed to his performance.
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rockaction
Footballguy
Any speculation anybody is hearing about moves for Dallas?
need2know
Footballguy
zoonation
Footballguy
I should clarify that I didn’t mean to ruffle feathers with this post. I chart for the boys. Always have. But I cheer for my wallet more.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
At least you admit it.
I don’t blame you considering the Eagles showing every sign of heading for a letdown season. Are you guys even going to make the playoffs this year?
modogg
Footballguy
the line was 8.5 a week ago, so that should give you a hint where the money is coming in
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
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rockaction
Footballguy
Yeah, it is.
I do disagree with it, especially signing a guy that's at 78% accuracy, which is awful for a professional kicker.
But they know what they're doing, and I could be totally wrong.
But, you'll note, Bailey's already got teams going after him. The Jets, my team, had him in and never should have let him leave the building today.
rockaction
Footballguy
I think it might be more injuries than decline. Bailey's only thirty. Those are prime years.
dhockster
Footballguy
Just an observation. If you are going to complain about Eagles fans giving opinions in the Cowboy thread, perhaps you shouldn't troll Eagle's fans in the Cowboys thread. Personally, I like good natured trolling, so I don't take offense, but I am sure others will be coming in with snarky comments. Like I said, just an observation.STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
You literally responded to my post asking which serviceable backups get you excited. Nobody you listed is available. I'm still waiting for anyone who claims there are serviceable backups to list some so we can start the discussion.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
I'd prefer they didn't give their opinions in our team specific thread. The jokes they make are older than the Cowboys' Super Bowl trophys.
You know that I like you and you're not on my S list but your buddies are. They have been trolling us for awhile now and I am no longer accepting it this thread. They can say whatever they want in every thread that isn't this one and I don't care but they aren't coming in here and talking their nonsense w/o me saying something back.
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dhockster
Footballguy
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
It is!
You know I can be level headed about our teams and have a friendly conversation however they simply post one liners and condescending remarks, NONE OF IT IS ACTUAL FOOTBALL DISCUSSION. If they want to say something w/o a smart ### remark or backhanded compliment then by all means but they can never seem to do that.
I didn't say anything for months and months. You guys had your time to gloat and (in this thread), its over.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
So..... The Cowboys have 19.5 million.....Does anybody else think they have something up their sleeve? I think a trade is coming.
WTF is Danial Ross? Ive listened to just about every podcast, show and interview but I never heard this dudes name even once.
WTF is Danial Ross? Ive listened to just about every podcast, show and interview but I never heard this dudes name even once.
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dhockster
Footballguy
The obvious answer is that the Bailey cut was done to give the Cowboys a little bit more cap space so that when they trade for Earl Thomas they will easily be able to redo his contract throwing as much of the cap hit into the current year as possible. The Cowboys do have cap space in the next few years, but they have Lawrence, Prescott, and possibly Elliot big contracts looming out there.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
Thats my thinking too. Earl or redo a contract to give more money this year.
Prescott they will pay but I believe he won't demand top dollar.
Unsure about paying Elliot a second contract. If he blows gos for 1,600+ and 12+ TDs the next two seasons I could see him wanting all the money and they won't do that. I think they just keep drafting and developing his replacement. Stephen Jones just doesn't want to spend his pops money.
Lawrence is complicated. Its rare for the Cowboys to franchise tag someone. Again, its about what Lawrence wants because Stephen isn't going to give him 20 million a year and if Tank gets another 14.5 sacks he's going to want and deserve it.
modogg
Footballguy
not sure Sea has incentive to trade Earl unless Dallas offers value in return. to be honest, i thought this was a bit of a "tanking" effort. i know that isn't the Jones way (love the celebration of winning that week 17 game against back-ups), but 3 mill really won't make or break much. you don't think Bailey offers to restructure if they suggest it?
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
dhockster
Footballguy
I think Seattle would rather get some value rather than no value, so I think they will trade him, even if it is during the season. I think the Cowboys would give up a 3rd rounder, maybe even a 2nd rounder for Thomas. I don't think they would go as high as a 1st rounder. The trade would make some sense for both teams.
The Cowboys must have seen enough in their new kicker that they felt like they could let Bailey go.
dhockster
Footballguy
Some of it depends on what the Seahawks are asking for in return. The further we go into the season, the less they will be able to get, so their price will start to come down. Depending on how the Cowboys start the season, they might feel he could be the difference in making a long playoff run, and then they make a good enough offer to get the deal done.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Tapper cut from the practice squad. Something is weird here..
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
Calling
On the bolded.Agree that the ball is in Seattle’s court.
No on the restructure. Likely why he left the Jets faculty.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
renesauz
IBL Representative
I can get behind this sentiment. Not a fan of some specific cowboys fans that like to talk garbage in the Eagles thread. My posts in here tend to be sparse and generally pretty neutral.
@tonydead, I'm mildly surprised that NONE of those QBs I listed came available. Really thought Griffin would...didn't expect Baltimore to keep three on the active roster
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
modogg
Footballguy
yeah you are likely correct, but it seems strange to me. If Dallas doesn't end up making a move, you guys are going to all be ok with this?Calling
Agree that the ball is in Seattle’s court.
No on the restructure. Likely why he left the Jets faculty.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Not sure what you're looking for here.
For Dallas fans that have been paying attention... Bailey has been struggling all training camp. Yes, i was still surprised he was cut.
But obviously not as surprised as someone who hasn't been aware of his struggles, and just sees the headline "Bailey cut OMG!!!"
modogg
Footballguy
more surprised regarding who they bring in, there are 8-10 better kickers still not on teams they could have grabbed. And basing off of pre-season is a little silly, but maybe they know something about him. If he is signed before the season it would seem to be more likely that he is fineNot sure what you're looking for here.
For Dallas fans that have been paying attention... Bailey has been struggling all training camp. Yes, i was still surprised he was cut.
But obviously not as surprised as someone who hasn't been aware of his struggles, and just sees the headline "Bailey cut OMG!!!"
Football Jones
Footballguy
I think Bailey will resurface, but Maher simply beat him out. From what I understand, it wasn't even close.
There's something to be said for giving a veteran K with Bailey's history the benefit of the doubt, but the salary cap was a fairly big factor in their decision. You have to be worth your salary or the fiscal situation can get ugly like with so many teams.
The salary cap is the elephant in the room.
There's something to be said for giving a veteran K with Bailey's history the benefit of the doubt, but the salary cap was a fairly big factor in their decision. You have to be worth your salary or the fiscal situation can get ugly like with so many teams.
The salary cap is the elephant in the room.
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STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
So stupid we can't delete posts.
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dhockster
Footballguy
9-7 or 10-6 depending on if the Giants are playing for something the last week of the season. If they are, Giants win, Cowboys 9-7. If they are not, Cowboys win, Cowboys 10-6
babydemon90
Footballguy
Why haven't the cowboys traded for Thomas yet? Seems like a no-brainer - best shot for a Super Bowl win is while you have Dak and Elliot in their rookie deals, so ~2 years?
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
Interesting. It was pretty well consider it a done deal if somebody offered them a 2nd. I guess Seattle wants more now.
Deamon
Footballguy
Pretty shocked they said no to this. He hasn't been with the team yet, only has one year left on his deal (and no chance re-signs) and a team offers a 2nd for him. Not sure why Seattle didn't take this. Am glad they didn't, but maybe they'll still shop him during the year.
