This is about right. If you can get an egghead to go over the numbers with you and eliminate that from your job description then I would imagine being a GM would get incredibly easier. But then again that is one of the top skills for that position, massaging contracts in regards to that players skill level and predicting said skill level years out.I'd say middle of the pack, assuming I had a separate person handling contracts. For pure talent evals, and roster building I don't think I'd be top-5, but certainly better than many current GM's. I can't imagine I'd be worse than Tannenbaum for instance.
Agreed, I think if the job was just, the draft, free agency scouting(identifying players of interest) self team scouting(identifying needs, and cutting down the roster) that I could that aspect better than at least 10 current NFL GM's. Just would basically need a comptroller of sorts.This is about right. If you can get an egghead to go over the numbers with you and eliminate that from your job description then I would imagine being a GM would get incredibly easier. But then again that is one of the top skills for that position, massaging contracts in regards to that players skill level and predicting said skill level years out.
90% of successful corporate leadership boils down to three overarching qualities: hiring the right people, communicating effectively, and making (and sticking with) tough decisions. At least based on my 20 years in corporate America, these apply regardless of industry and - while there are a thousand other factors that carry some weight - if you can't handle those three, it doesn't matter how good you are at the rest.Jump right in? No chance.
Let me apprentice with someone for 3-5 years and then take the reins? Absolutely.
Are you Matt Millen?I'll tell everyone I'd be top 5 and take the paycheck until I get fired at least.
You must be new around here. Everyone here is better than their team's GM. Just ask them.I cannot imagine a random person off the street could walk in the GM office and be successful. You would have to understand the salary cap, contracts, offenses, defenses, have a long term plan in regards to each, etc. So many things one would have to know it would make your head explode.
Removing everything else and putting it aside, I can honestly say I would be as good if not better then Marty freaking Hurney at identifying players and drafting. The dude is the absolute worst.You must be new around here. Everyone here is better than their team's GM. Just ask them.
Well then you should apply for that job. I'm not saying all 32 gms are geniuses, just that many of their critics have no clue of what the job entails.Removing everything else and putting it aside, I can honestly say I would be as good if not better then Marty freaking Hurney at identifying players and drafting. The dude is the absolute worst.
I couldnt do the job off the street. All things considered he is better than me at GM, but I would never trade up for an Appy State qb in the 3rd round and try and convert him to wr.Well then you should apply for that job. I'm not saying all 32 gms are geniuses, just that many of their critics have no clue of what the job entails.
I cannot imagine a random person off the street could walk in the GM office and be successful. You would have to understand the salary cap, contracts, offenses, defenses, have a long term plan in regards to each, etc. So many things one would have to know it would make your head explode. Now if you were to say director of scouting then that would be more realistic to whittle down the job role of identifying talent.
That's pretty much my thought - I'd probably fail because I don't know who the good scouts, talent developers, etc or really how do identify those guys before they make it.90% of successful corporate leadership boils down to three overarching qualities: hiring the right people, communicating effectively, and making (and sticking with) tough decisions. At least based on my 20 years in corporate America, these apply regardless of industry and - while there are a thousand other factors that carry some weight - if you can't handle those three, it doesn't matter how good you are at the rest.
If I crash and burn, it'd be because I didn't have the specific industry connections to know where the true high performers are sitting and/or convince them to come work for me. If you could guarantee me success on item 1, I think I could handle the rest well enough to at least tread water while I learn the ropes.
People move up the chain of command in the NFL for the same reason they do in any other industry - it's just easier to promote from within. You're dealing with known quantities, the learning curve is generally much less steep, many of the connections are already made, and it spreads a nice warm glow around the rest of the company. "Someday, that could be me."Well then you should apply for that job. I'm not saying all 32 gms are geniuses, just that many of their critics have no clue of what the job entails.
You would turn to the dark side.Jump right in? No chance.
Let me apprentice with someone for 3-5 years and then take the reins? Absolutely.
Thats on the Team president not GM.Consessions, merchandising, accounts payable and receivables, security and ground maintenance to name a few of the responsibilities apart from the competitive football aspects. A huge job. Delagating to competence a must imo.
Thanks for the correction, but aren’t there some that do it all?Thats on the Team president not GM.
I cannot imagine that would be the case. GM job is football football football.Thanks for the correction, but aren’t there some that do it all?
A lot of people assume that since their GM stinks that they would automatically be better. No, you would both stink.JohnnyU said:Yeah, I bet most on this board could draft a pretty good fantasy team. The arrogance knows no bounds.
wrong quote. gonna delete this.Well then you should apply for that job. I'm not saying all 32 gms are geniuses, just that many of their critics have no clue of what the job entails.
I watched a verifiable genius (Sashi Brown) crash & burn. Could I even approach Dorsey? Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha... Ja Ja JaYou must be new around here. Everyone here is better than their team's GM. Just ask them.
How did Sashi crash and burn? He provided the Browns with unprecedented draft capital.I watched a verifiable genius (Sashi Brown) crash & burn. Could I even approach Dorsey? Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha... Ja Ja Ja
I agree, Sashi and the 76ers guy (name is escaping me) did an incredibly good job turning those rosters around. It is a shame they aren't still there to keep the engine turning.How did Sashi crash and burn? He provided the Browns with unprecedented draft capital.
Sam Hinkie.I agree, Sashi and the 76ers guy (name is escaping me) did an incredibly good job turning those rosters around. It is a shame they aren't still there to keep the engine turning.
He did, but the guys he drafted came up short. Dorsey turned over 3/4 of the roster. So... creating draft capital and cap space -- excellent. Creating a playoff caliber team -- not so much!How did Sashi crash and burn? He provided the Browns with unprecedented draft capital.
Todd Haley had full autonomy on the offense.Sam Hinkie.
The sad part about Sashi is all that talent they accumulated was negated by Hue Jackson. 3-36 as a head coach for the Browns; 5-3 after he left. Then he went to the Bengals and ruined that team.
The Browns offense next year with Monken and Kitchens is going to be a lot of fun to watch.