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Just a fyi, even if there was a quid pro quo, and there wasn't, but if there was, the President has the duty to investigate corruption and the Biden's and Burisma (see the constitution) would be reason for the President to want an investigation. So in the end, the so called "quid pro quo" in this case is not reason for removal given what is stated in the constitution.
You need to go back and study all this. You’ve got it all wrong. But don’t trust me. Trust Alexander and Sasse and Rubio and Portman and others.
More than silly if one wanted to accurately characterize it, but unable to do that here of course.
. It is why they have strived for decades to destroy it, and are continuing that fight. Ole ma loves it when I just tell her “Reality is liberal”. 
I trust what's in the constitution. The President has the duty to investigate corruption of the Biden's and Burisma.
Interesting. Can you point me to the Constitutional provisions supporting your statement? I maybe can get as far as him being the chief law enforcement officer in America. I am unclear how his investigative authority extends to Americans conducting business in foreign countries presuming the chief law enforcement officer has investigative authority.
Who will saaaaaaave her soul?OrtonToOlsen said:
And that answers the question for you?
He does not have the duty to abuse his power by withholding congressionally authorized aid to a foreign nation and attempt to use it as a bribe to manufacture dirt on a political opponent.
The article I posted has decent sections on impoundment of congressional funds and on the Presidents enforcement power. Its a good read. By my reading of it our friend JohnnyU may be a bit off base in taking Rubio as an authoritative voice on these matters, but who can say, perhaps I misunderstand the information. Perhaps those much smarter than I can opine.
Pretty sure that is what the article I posted says, in summary, if not as a direct quote.
Sorry, I'm doing some extra electrical work and didn't have time to read it.
No worries. I intended that as a gentile jibe to our friend JohnnyU, not actually to you.
Hopefully the President’s next move is to fully investigate Hunter and Joes Air Force 2 ride to China to score a $1.5 billion deal. The next shoe to drop.
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I asked my kids if they got political opinions from their teachers and they said "no". However they, gasp, are encouraged to read a variety of news sources and form their own opinions.
1. Can’t speak for anyone else but I am yes.
Actually I need to edit #1. I predicted the result and I’m satisfied with it because of what it will lead to, but I’m not happy with it, no. I would have preferred the Republican senators behaved with honor and integrity. More than that even, I would prefer that we didn’t have a corrupt President.
Just now hearing about this? We have discussed it several times here. Better go educate yourself.
You're peddling fake news here.
The constitution says the President is supposed to sick foreign legal systems on American citizens?
Thanks good buddy. I just told the poster who said I was peddling “fake news” this.
it is a victory for Trump, for sure.
Thanks.Jackstraw said:
The alternative is essentially asymmetrical warfare. I agree it’s bad but if the alternative is getting metaphorically beat in the head with a baseball bat I choose to fight as dirty as the guy I’m scrapping with.
We knew what would happen, and it shows that any attempt by the GOP to claim any sort of moral high ground going forward will be summarily dismissed as bunk.
I am quite familiar with the story. It's just another in a long line of fake news/conspiracy theory/Trump-supporter-wishcasting stories, not unlike Pizzagate or all of the breathless claims about various Democrats (Hillary) or public servants (Comey) who are on the verge of being locked up, just as soon as Sessions/Barr/Durham/whoever finish their next investigation.Just now hearing about this? We have discussed it several times here. Better go educate yourself.
You're peddling fake news here.
I am not happy to learn the extent to which our president manipulated the interests of the country and our national security to his sole benefit and further abused his power by engaging in a cover up. Further, I am not happy that even his supporters acknowledge all the wrong-doing and lack the moral integrity and courage to do anything about it.
Don’t you diss the Soviet Constitution! It ordered people to be happy. Happiness is important.
1. certainly not happy. Disappointed for sure but not surprised.
They may move things forward...hopefully come November the GOP will be punished for this fiasco and we can move forward. Rather than continuing to move backwards.
Or one could determine to set a good example. Yes in the immediacy of the moment that seems less effective, but I need to believe that in the long run it will more than win out, it will overwhelm. Then again I can be naïve.
