2012 Packers Offseason (1 Viewer)

[Carl Eller's Dead Liver]

OLB - 1st pick in the draft for the Pack, unless they go Dline -

Good article on the Packers today in the JS

Green Bay -- The Packers' needs on defense this off-season are fairly obvious. Defensive coordinator Dom Capers needs a pass-rushing threat opposite Clay Matthews and a reliable 3-4 defensive end. Resurrecting the league's 32nd-ranked defense starts there.

Well, Green Bay didn't need to wait long for a first look at new blood.

Senior Bowl Week in Mobile, Ala., wraps up with Saturday's game at 3 p.m. (CST) on NFL Network and there are plenty of potential 3-4 rushers to analyze. NFL.com's Pat Kirwan broke down six rushers this week that could be drafted in the first four rounds:

--- The two top, South Carolina's Melvin Ingram and Alabama's Courtney Upshaw, didn't disappoint. Ingram "couldn't be blocked" at Tuesday's practice as Kirwan compared him to Pittsburgh's Lamarr Woodley. Ingram's variety of pass-rush moves make him dangerous, while Upshaw relies more on "pure strength" than quickness.

--- One player to keep an eye on is Boise State's Shea McClellin, a 248-pounder who saw time at end and outside linebacker at practice. A tight end in high school, McClellin is "one of the most intriguing hybrid players" at the Senior Bowl, Kirwan says. Some astute observations here, too. At practice, McClellin motored past a pulling guard when his hand was on the ground and also showed bull-rushed a tackle out of a two-point stance. McClellin stood out to one of the best linebackers ever.

"Let me just say this, if [McClellin] wants to play D-line, he can play D-line," Vikings linebackers coach Mike Singletary told CBS Sports' Rob Rang. "If he wants to play linebacker, he can play linebacker. He is the kind of guy that can fit either way.

"He's a guy that right now is about 255 pounds. He can pick up and go to 275 and go back to D-line or he can stay where he's at. He's got a lot of good stuff ahead of him because he's also a worker. You find a guy like him with his versatility and intangibles -- he's also a smart kid -- and he's going to be just fine at the next level."

--- Arkansas' Jake Bequette projects as a middle-round pick after 30 tackles for loss and 22 sacks in college. And Kirwan also notes North Carolina State's Audie Cole as a player who can play both inside and outside linebacker. Game reps will be telling for him Saturday.

If the Pack thinks they can get a decent OLB later in the draft, they will go Dline. If not, they will go OLB (assuming they fall to their pick)

Pretty sure this year is BDPA (Best Defensive Player Available)

Very interesting, thanks for posting smack. Does anyone think TT would select McClellin? Any idea what round he is expected to go in? Imagine Ingram paired up with Matthews.....darn.

Interesting piece, what are the thoughts about Driver and his 2.5 million bonus?

I think the Packers should take that $2.5 million and pay for some fan etiquette.

 

[sho nuff]

Largely agree with sho', though also understand the other perspective. Capers didn't exactly do a stellar job this year. So who is to blame - TT or Capers? Or both? Who deserves more of the blame?

BTW - wasn't our 2009 D even better?

Our 2009 D was pretty similar to this year.How many QBs tore up that secondary?

As I said, 2010 earned Capers some time for sure. I don't think you play that well on D and it does not have something to do with Capers.2009 he gets the pass being new into the system...and we saw some good things, but many of the same problems that showed up in 2011 (mistakes in coverage...impossible to cover the middle of the field...).

Also as I said...I think its Capers, TT, and the players.

Can we blame Capers or TT that Shields and Tramon took a ton of chances and it did not pay off? That Peprah could not tackle this year? That Hawk played worse? That Raji had very little impact? That Neal got hurt (well, can kind of blame TT there for not signing Jenkins).

That Jones/Walden/Zombo showed absolutely no progression this year?

I think there is plenty of blame to go around for sure.

Your memory appears to be faulty sho. In 2009, we had the #2 overall defense in terms of yards allowed. We had the #1 rushing defense and the #5 passing defense. That was also the year Woodson was Defensive MVP.http://www.nfl.com/stats/team?seasonId=2009&seasonType=REG&Submit=Go

So Big Ben didn't light them up?Warner? Favre?

They gave up the 5th most passing TDs.

Yes, overall they gave up less yards...it was a bit of the opposite as they did not give up the yards but gave up the TDs.

So yes, my memory was mostly of those QBs killing them...and that they could not stop passing TDs.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Largely agree with sho', though also understand the other perspective. Capers didn't exactly do a stellar job this year. So who is to blame - TT or Capers? Or both? Who deserves more of the blame?

BTW - wasn't our 2009 D even better?

Our 2009 D was pretty similar to this year.How many QBs tore up that secondary?

As I said, 2010 earned Capers some time for sure. I don't think you play that well on D and it does not have something to do with Capers.2009 he gets the pass being new into the system...and we saw some good things, but many of the same problems that showed up in 2011 (mistakes in coverage...impossible to cover the middle of the field...).

Also as I said...I think its Capers, TT, and the players.

Can we blame Capers or TT that Shields and Tramon took a ton of chances and it did not pay off? That Peprah could not tackle this year? That Hawk played worse? That Raji had very little impact? That Neal got hurt (well, can kind of blame TT there for not signing Jenkins).

That Jones/Walden/Zombo showed absolutely no progression this year?

I think there is plenty of blame to go around for sure.

Your memory appears to be faulty sho. In 2009, we had the #2 overall defense in terms of yards allowed. We had the #1 rushing defense and the #5 passing defense. That was also the year Woodson was Defensive MVP.http://www.nfl.com/stats/team?seasonId=2009&seasonType=REG&Submit=Go

So Big Ben didn't light them up?Warner? Favre?

They gave up the 5th most passing TDs.

Yes, overall they gave up less yards...it was a bit of the opposite as they did not give up the yards but gave up the TDs.

So yes, my memory was mostly of those QBs killing them...and that they could not stop passing TDs.

Well, obviously they didn't get lit up every game or else they wouldn't have ranked #2 overall and #5 in passing yards. And Woodson wouldn't have been Defensive MVP. No?

 

[sho nuff]

Largely agree with sho', though also understand the other perspective. Capers didn't exactly do a stellar job this year. So who is to blame - TT or Capers? Or both? Who deserves more of the blame?

BTW - wasn't our 2009 D even better?

Our 2009 D was pretty similar to this year.How many QBs tore up that secondary?

As I said, 2010 earned Capers some time for sure. I don't think you play that well on D and it does not have something to do with Capers.2009 he gets the pass being new into the system...and we saw some good things, but many of the same problems that showed up in 2011 (mistakes in coverage...impossible to cover the middle of the field...).

Also as I said...I think its Capers, TT, and the players.

Can we blame Capers or TT that Shields and Tramon took a ton of chances and it did not pay off? That Peprah could not tackle this year? That Hawk played worse? That Raji had very little impact? That Neal got hurt (well, can kind of blame TT there for not signing Jenkins).

That Jones/Walden/Zombo showed absolutely no progression this year?

I think there is plenty of blame to go around for sure.

Your memory appears to be faulty sho. In 2009, we had the #2 overall defense in terms of yards allowed. We had the #1 rushing defense and the #5 passing defense. That was also the year Woodson was Defensive MVP.http://www.nfl.com/stats/team?seasonId=2009&seasonType=REG&Submit=Go

So Big Ben didn't light them up?Warner? Favre?

They gave up the 5th most passing TDs.

Yes, overall they gave up less yards...it was a bit of the opposite as they did not give up the yards but gave up the TDs.

So yes, my memory was mostly of those QBs killing them...and that they could not stop passing TDs.

Well, obviously they didn't get lit up every game or else they wouldn't have ranked #2 overall and #5 in passing yards. And Woodson wouldn't have been Defensive MVP. No?

I left out some things on my last post...was admitting that my memory was bad and just burned by the thoughts of what Favre, Big Ben, and Warner did to them.

 

[smackdaddies]

TT chosen Sporting News Executive of the Year

Indianapolis - The Sporting News has named Packers GM Ted Thompson its executive of the year for the second time in five years.

A panel of 32 coaches and executives chose Thompson for the award this season. Thompson, with 14 votes, finished ahead of 49ers G.M. Trent Baalke (7), Texans G.M. Rick Smith (5) and Bengals president Mike Brown (3).

Thompson also won the award in 2007 after the Packers went to the NFC Championship game. Both years he won the award, the Packers were eliminated by the New York Giants in the playoffs.

 

[sho nuff]

Odd on TT for this year.

I would not think it was one of his best at all.

 

[Tony Jabroni]

Although he wouldn't make it official, Nick Collins is expected to be cleared and ready to play for the Packers this season. He was on the Bill Michaels show this afternoon.

 

[KingPrawn]

Jason Wilde reporting that the Raiders have asked for permission to interview Whitt for the defensive coordinator position

 

[KingPrawn]

Packers promote Clements to OC

 

[sho nuff]

Although he wouldn't make it official, Nick Collins is expected to be cleared and ready to play for the Packers this season. He was on the Bill Michaels show this afternoon.

WOW!!!If this happens it should be a great lift to that team.Gives them more options with what else to do FA and draft wise.Hope so...and hope its not a bad decision by him for his neck.

 

[sho nuff]

Packers promote Clements to OC

Definitely paid his dues in the organization and working with McCarthy.

Will keep continuity with some of the prep of the team and specifically the QBs.

Pretty much expected this or one of the other internal candidates.

 

[The Westin]

Largely agree with sho', though also understand the other perspective. Capers didn't exactly do a stellar job this year. So who is to blame - TT or Capers? Or both? Who deserves more of the blame?

BTW - wasn't our 2009 D even better?

Our 2009 D was pretty similar to this year.How many QBs tore up that secondary?

As I said, 2010 earned Capers some time for sure. I don't think you play that well on D and it does not have something to do with Capers.2009 he gets the pass being new into the system...and we saw some good things, but many of the same problems that showed up in 2011 (mistakes in coverage...impossible to cover the middle of the field...).

Also as I said...I think its Capers, TT, and the players.

Can we blame Capers or TT that Shields and Tramon took a ton of chances and it did not pay off? That Peprah could not tackle this year? That Hawk played worse? That Raji had very little impact? That Neal got hurt (well, can kind of blame TT there for not signing Jenkins).

That Jones/Walden/Zombo showed absolutely no progression this year?

I think there is plenty of blame to go around for sure.

Your memory appears to be faulty sho. In 2009, we had the #2 overall defense in terms of yards allowed. We had the #1 rushing defense and the #5 passing defense. That was also the year Woodson was Defensive MVP.http://www.nfl.com/stats/team?seasonId=2009&seasonType=REG&Submit=Go

So Big Ben didn't light them up?Warner? Favre?

They gave up the 5th most passing TDs.

Yes, overall they gave up less yards...it was a bit of the opposite as they did not give up the yards but gave up the TDs.

So yes, my memory was mostly of those QBs killing them...and that they could not stop passing TDs.

Well, obviously they didn't get lit up every game or else they wouldn't have ranked #2 overall and #5 in passing yards. And Woodson wouldn't have been Defensive MVP. No?

I could be wrong, but I thought I remember a problem where every good QB GB faced that year tore them up. Everybody else... the defense was fantastic.

 

[The Westin]

I hadn't hear that info about Collins yet, but man...that would be great. If he does come back, I wonder how long it will take him to get back to full form. Him coming back will do wonders for both he and Burnett, would be an instant upgrade to two positions on the defense. Peprah was criminally bad at times this year.

As far as FA goes, I would assume TT lets Driver and Clifton go, maybe Grant too.

We all know he's not going to go after a guy like C.Campbell from Arizona...but are there any available 3-4 DE's that could be had for a decent price? Almost anything would be an upgrade over the crap that's there now. Part of me still thinks there's a chance Neal could be good if healthy, although I'll have to add it took me forever to give up on Harrel.

As far as the draft, premier pass rushers are going to be gone at 28. Anyone have a good scouting report on who could be available at the end of the draft?

 

[KingPrawn]

I hadn't hear that info about Collins yet, but man...that would be great. If he does come back, I wonder how long it will take him to get back to full form. Him coming back will do wonders for both he and Burnett, would be an instant upgrade to two positions on the defense. Peprah was criminally bad at times this year.

I found a story of Nick Collins expecting to be back.My link

While it would be great news I'm still a bit skeptical. There is a big difference between Nick Collins expecting to play and the doctors clearing him. Here's hoping though.

 

[Tony Jabroni]

I hadn't hear that info about Collins yet, but man...that would be great. If he does come back, I wonder how long it will take him to get back to full form. Him coming back will do wonders for both he and Burnett, would be an instant upgrade to two positions on the defense. Peprah was criminally bad at times this year.

I have not heard anything either about Collins. Can the original poster of that information provide a link please or where he heard it? I'm curious to read it. Would be great news but I'm skeptical. I'm guessing he was cleared to resume workouts but that is a far cry from playing games.

The Bill Michaels Show on 1250 WSSP in Milwaukee. Collins was an in studio guest. I will dig for a link, but I heard with my own ears, he has one last hurdle to be medically cleared to return to football. I'll just say he was very confident in doing so.1250 Homepage:http://www.sportsradio1250.com/

 

[KingPrawn]

I hadn't hear that info about Collins yet, but man...that would be great. If he does come back, I wonder how long it will take him to get back to full form. Him coming back will do wonders for both he and Burnett, would be an instant upgrade to two positions on the defense. Peprah was criminally bad at times this year.

I have not heard anything either about Collins. Can the original poster of that information provide a link please or where he heard it? I'm curious to read it. Would be great news but I'm skeptical. I'm guessing he was cleared to resume workouts but that is a far cry from playing games.

The Bill Michaels Show on 1250 WSSP in Milwaukee. Collins was an in studio guest. I will dig for a link, but I heard with my own ears, he has one last hurdle to be medically cleared to return to football. I'll just say he was very confident in doing so.

I found the link and edited my post above to include it. Thanks for the tip.

 

[Tony Jabroni]

I hadn't hear that info about Collins yet, but man...that would be great. If he does come back, I wonder how long it will take him to get back to full form. Him coming back will do wonders for both he and Burnett, would be an instant upgrade to two positions on the defense. Peprah was criminally bad at times this year.

I have not heard anything either about Collins. Can the original poster of that information provide a link please or where he heard it? I'm curious to read it. Would be great news but I'm skeptical. I'm guessing he was cleared to resume workouts but that is a far cry from playing games.

The Bill Michaels Show on 1250 WSSP in Milwaukee. Collins was an in studio guest. I will dig for a link, but I heard with my own ears, he has one last hurdle to be medically cleared to return to football. I'll just say he was very confident in doing so.

I found the link and edited my post above to include it. Thanks for the tip.

 

[cr8f]

I heard Collins say it's up to the doctors. He wants to come back but if they say no he won't (much like Sterling). I hope he does but think the odds are against it.

 

[Mario Kart]

I heard Collins say it's up to the doctors. He wants to come back but if they say no he won't (much like Sterling). I hope he does but think the odds are against it.

I heard Collins did not sign the recall petition. Good for him.

 

[KingPrawn]

I heard Collins say it's up to the doctors. He wants to come back but if they say no he won't (much like Sterling). I hope he does but think the odds are against it.

I heard Collins did not sign the recall petition. Good for him.

Can we please keep the politics to the other thread and not muck up this one? TIA

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Here is a piece on Charles Woodson not moving to S: http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Packers-wont-be-moving-Charles-Woodson-to-safety.html?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

Other updates:

-Packers sign Finley to a 2 year deal(which they could cut him after one year if he doesn't produce)

-Chad Clifton is going to get released(saw on the bottom line of NFL Network)

 

[FavreAndAwayAnIdiot]

Here is a piece on Charles Woodson not moving to S: http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Packers-wont-be-moving-Charles-Woodson-to-safety.html?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

FAIL. Woodson is a liability in coverage at CB.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

I keep looking for the official Packer thread

There's no way the actual Green Bay offseason thread is going to be opened and controlled by a Bears fan.

 

[sho nuff]

Interesting on Woodson...he is valuable in that slot position and closer to the LOS...but looked slower on blitzes last year and was a liability in most coverage situations against slot WRs.

Was inevitable about CLifton...he could be resigned for less if he does not hook up elsewhere (and I would not expect him to hook up elsewhere).

Also read where they will be restructuring Driver's deal.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Interesting on Woodson...he is valuable in that slot position and closer to the LOS...but looked slower on blitzes last year and was a liability in most coverage situations against slot WRs. Was inevitable about CLifton...he could be resigned for less if he does not hook up elsewhere (and I would not expect him to hook up elsewhere).Also read where they will be restructuring Driver's deal.

Driver/Clifton should save GB quite a bit of money. Maybe even enough to bring back Wells, if they franchise Flynn.

 

[sho nuff]

Interesting on Woodson...he is valuable in that slot position and closer to the LOS...but looked slower on blitzes last year and was a liability in most coverage situations against slot WRs. Was inevitable about CLifton...he could be resigned for less if he does not hook up elsewhere (and I would not expect him to hook up elsewhere).Also read where they will be restructuring Driver's deal.

Driver/Clifton should save GB quite a bit of money. Maybe even enough to bring back Wells, if they franchise Flynn.

Wells and his agent are going to have to come down in price for him to be back.What I read was he wanted top 5 C money...no way TT is paying that to a 31 year old undersized Center who is not a top 5 guy.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Did Flynn get franchised?

I haven't seen it anywhere if it happened.

 

[werdnoynek]

Did Flynn get franchised?

I haven't seen it anywhere if it happened.

‏ @AdamSchefter: Players NOT tagged include Packers QB Matt Flynn, G Carl Nicks, WRs Vincent Jackson, Marques Colston and Reggie Wayne, DE Mario Williams.

 

[footballstar]

Off he goes into the sunset as a starting qb somewhere.....

 

[Phil4]

Do you guy think it's possible that TT try to land Mario Williams ? It's a PERFECT fit for the Pack. Do we have enough cash ? I know TT do not like to pay for FA but Mario Williams is a very valuable guy.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Do you guy think it's possible that TT try to land Mario Williams ? It's a PERFECT fit for the Pack. Do we have enough cash ? I know TT do not like to pay for FA but Mario Williams is a very valuable guy.

I think resigning Scott Wells and drafting an OLB in round one would be more productive/cheaper.

 

[sho nuff]

Do you guy think it's possible that TT try to land Mario Williams ? It's a PERFECT fit for the Pack. Do we have enough cash ? I know TT do not like to pay for FA but Mario Williams is a very valuable guy.

I think resigning Scott Wells and drafting an OLB in round one would be more productive/cheaper.

Cheaper yes...more productive? Not sure.On the first question by Phil...I think fans would love it. I would. Structure the deal right where the expected increased in the cap in the coming years cover as much of the deal as you can there...could be quite nice.The whole Aaron Kampman issue worries me about a guy truely fitting into the 3-4 though. He did not look great in the 3-4 before his injury. Not terrible and more athletic than Kampman...but the guy is a perfect 4-3 rush end.I just don't see TT being a 1st day player in high priced free agency. On Benson's comment on Wells.Hopefully they get something worked out...but Wells will have to come down from his dream world of wanting top 5 center money. He is not a top 5 center and at 31 TT is not going to come close to giving him top 5 money.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Do you guy think it's possible that TT try to land Mario Williams ? It's a PERFECT fit for the Pack. Do we have enough cash ? I know TT do not like to pay for FA but Mario Williams is a very valuable guy.

I think resigning Scott Wells and drafting an OLB in round one would be more productive/cheaper.

Cheaper yes...more productive? Not sure.On the first question by Phil...I think fans would love it. I would. Structure the deal right where the expected increased in the cap in the coming years cover as much of the deal as you can there...could be quite nice.The whole Aaron Kampman issue worries me about a guy truely fitting into the 3-4 though. He did not look great in the 3-4 before his injury. Not terrible and more athletic than Kampman...but the guy is a perfect 4-3 rush end.I just don't see TT being a 1st day player in high priced free agency. On Benson's comment on Wells.Hopefully they get something worked out...but Wells will have to come down from his dream world of wanting top 5 center money. He is not a top 5 center and at 31 TT is not going to come close to giving him top 5 money.

Lets say Clifton/Wells don't come back then. How does the OL look next year? Will they bring anyone else in of note via Free Agency/Draft?I'm not sure Derrek Sherrod will be ready for the start of next season:INDIANAPOLIS – While Mike McCarthy wasn’t setting any official timelines, the Green Bay Packers coach sure made it sound like two of the team’s three most significantly injured players will have a chance to make it back in time for training camp.Tackle Derek Sherrod, the team’s 2011 first-round draft pick, is the unlucky one who’s the furthest away from returning to health.Running back Alex Green (torn ACL, Oct. 23), tight end Andrew Quarless (torn ACL, Dec. 4) and Sherrod (broken leg, Dec. 18) suffered the team’s three worst injuries last season, and while McCarthy said Green and Quarless are making good progress, the news wasn’t as positive on Sherrod.“I saw both (Sherrod and Quarless) on Monday,” McCarthy said at the NFL Scouting Combine at Lucas Oil Stadium Friday. “Quarless, he’s really making progress every day. Alex Green also looks very good. He’s doing a lot in the weight room. He’s ahead of schedule. Derek, he’s still in the healing stages.“They’re making progress. I don’t have any dates. If you guys know our doctors, six weeks may be six months, and six months may be six weeks. But they’re doing well. They’re every day in treatment.”

 

[sho nuff]

Do you guy think it's possible that TT try to land Mario Williams ? It's a PERFECT fit for the Pack. Do we have enough cash ? I know TT do not like to pay for FA but Mario Williams is a very valuable guy.

I think resigning Scott Wells and drafting an OLB in round one would be more productive/cheaper.

Cheaper yes...more productive? Not sure.On the first question by Phil...I think fans would love it. I would. Structure the deal right where the expected increased in the cap in the coming years cover as much of the deal as you can there...could be quite nice.The whole Aaron Kampman issue worries me about a guy truely fitting into the 3-4 though. He did not look great in the 3-4 before his injury. Not terrible and more athletic than Kampman...but the guy is a perfect 4-3 rush end.I just don't see TT being a 1st day player in high priced free agency. On Benson's comment on Wells.Hopefully they get something worked out...but Wells will have to come down from his dream world of wanting top 5 center money. He is not a top 5 center and at 31 TT is not going to come close to giving him top 5 money.

Lets say Clifton/Wells don't come back then. How does the OL look next year? Will they bring anyone else in of note via Free Agency/Draft?I'm not sure Derrek Sherrod will be ready for the start of next season:INDIANAPOLIS – While Mike McCarthy wasn’t setting any official timelines, the Green Bay Packers coach sure made it sound like two of the team’s three most significantly injured players will have a chance to make it back in time for training camp.Tackle Derek Sherrod, the team’s 2011 first-round draft pick, is the unlucky one who’s the furthest away from returning to health.Running back Alex Green (torn ACL, Oct. 23), tight end Andrew Quarless (torn ACL, Dec. 4) and Sherrod (broken leg, Dec. 18) suffered the team’s three worst injuries last season, and while McCarthy said Green and Quarless are making good progress, the news wasn’t as positive on Sherrod.“I saw both (Sherrod and Quarless) on Monday,” McCarthy said at the NFL Scouting Combine at Lucas Oil Stadium Friday. “Quarless, he’s really making progress every day. Alex Green also looks very good. He’s doing a lot in the weight room. He’s ahead of schedule. Derek, he’s still in the healing stages.“They’re making progress. I don’t have any dates. If you guys know our doctors, six weeks may be six months, and six months may be six weeks. But they’re doing well. They’re every day in treatment.”

Clifton? I think he is done unless he wants to come back cheaper.Sherrod not sure if he will be ready. May have to hope Newhouse improves there in the short term (though, would hope they would kick the tires in FA for a veteran here).With Wells...could see them go draft, depends how they really feel about Evan Dietrich-Smith who they have been grooming for a couple years now. Got some playing time and looked decent last year.

 

[Tony Jabroni]

DE Mike Neal suspended 4 games according to the Big Show on 1250 WSSP in Milwaukee.

 

[sho nuff]

DE Mike Neal suspended 4 games according to the Big Show on 1250 WSSP in Milwaukee.

Interesting...would sound like a 2nd offense substance abuse type deal.Hey...that may keep him healthy longer .

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Also read a report that Clifton will be released soon and possibly retire.

 

[sho nuff]

Also read a report that Clifton will be released soon and possibly retire.

Seemed pretty likely...even with him saying he was feeling better...they just could not bank on him this year again.

 

[Kleck]

Looking at Garcon's deal, I wonder what Jordy would have gotten? Extending him last year for 4 years $13.989M was f'n genius.

GBTT

 

[Kleck]

How can Neal get busted for performance enhancing? There is nothing enhancing about his performance.

 

[sho nuff]

How can Neal get busted for performance enhancing? There is nothing enhancing about his performance.

Was it for sure PED?Could just be any banned substance (pot...etc...)

 

[Kleck]

How can Neal get busted for performance enhancing? There is nothing enhancing about his performance.

Was it for sure PED?Could just be any banned substance (pot...etc...)

Hearing PED on local radio. Don't know for sure. It would make sense since he's been injured. PEDs do help with recovery.

 

[Tony Jabroni]

How can Neal get busted for performance enhancing? There is nothing enhancing about his performance.

Was it for sure PED?Could just be any banned substance (pot...etc...)

Hearing PED on local radio. Don't know for sure. It would make sense since he's been injured. PEDs do help with recovery.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Packers missed out on Chris Meyers and Scott Wells at Center. Not sure if they had a big interest but Kendall Langford signed with the Rams as well.

 

[Balco]

Any chance they go after Kamerion Wimbley? Desperately need a pass rusher opposite Matthews. Might be asking for way too much $$$, though.

 

[MAC_32]

Have to think they're looking at Molk or Brewster now, right? Can't see them not taking a pass rusher round 1.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Any chance they go after Kamerion Wimbley? Desperately need a pass rusher opposite Matthews. Might be asking for way too much $$$, though.

That would help the Pass defense immensely.

 

[sho nuff]

Packers missed out on Chris Meyers and Scott Wells at Center. Not sure if they had a big interest but Kendall Langford signed with the Rams as well.

I think they contacted Langford's agent.Nice signing for the Rams.On the Wimbley question...they apparently have contacted his agent as well and expressed some interest from what I saw on Twitter.How much interest I really don't know.If there is any bidding war for him...TT will sit it out likely.Though, getting him for a fraction of what Mario cost would be a great move IMO.

 

[Samuel L Bronkowitz]

Schefter just tweeted that Packers agreed to a deal with Jeff Saturday

 

[sho nuff]

Schefter just tweeted that Packers agreed to a deal with Jeff Saturday

As I posted in the FA thread...good stop gap signing.Not what he once was, but reports are he still has something left in the tank.They wanted a bigger guy than Wells and got him this way.Details will be interesting though on his contract. If its anything close to what Wells got, that would seem like an odd move given the ages of the two.Good for the guys they have to work with a Vet like this too.Can't complain about this one...typical TT fashion of letting the bigger prices go early, then come in to sign someone cheaper.