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I'll be glad to do the same side bet challenge I did last year.

Someone please pull up the details of what it was and when teams had to be posted by.

Last year's offer:

Here we go.

Post your final lineup here by Monday night 9/5 at 11:59 PM ET. And if that exact lineup finishes in the top 250 spots, I'll throw in an additional $100 on top of whatever prize you win.


Looks like top 250 finish is the mark
 
More painful for Rooster 104677 - if the Chase pass completion for -7 yards is just dropped by Browning he makes it

-QG
 
Breaking down my roster in terms of marginal points per dollar-- how many extra points a player got me vs. if I'd just left his box unchecked and didn't spend that money elsewhere. (I know marginal points isn't the best measure, but I was curious about opportunity costs.)

0.5 points per dollar-- Anthony Richardson (7.45 points, $15). Counted once in a week I cleared by 45.
5.9 ppd-- Brock Purdy (70.3 points, $12). Counted six times, though none were season-savers.
6.2 ppd-- Jordan Love (55.75 points, $9). Counted six times, though none were season-savers.
(Glitch in the Matrix: in Weeks 2 and 3 Love scored 27.85 and the rest of my roster combined scored 172.70, leading to back-to-back scores of 200.55.)

1.6 ppd-- James Conner (32 points, $20). Counted six times, none were season-savers.
5.9 ppd-- Alvin Kamara (88.5 points, $15). Counted nine times (every week he's played), including one season-saver (added 15.7, cleared by 6.6).
10.9 ppd-- Raheem Mostert (109 points, $10). Counted eight times, but none were season-savers.
0.4 ppd-- Matt Breida (1.6 points, $4). Counted once. Wanted to bet on a Barkley injury, but forgot Breida and the Giants suck.
20.5 ppd-- Kyren Williams (81.9 points, $4). Counted six times, none were season-savers.
12.3 ppd-- Zach Moss (49.1 points, $4). Counted five times, none were season-savers. Super cheap bet on the Taylor holdout running long with handcuff potential beyond that.
(My top pick underwhelmed, but the other five-- sans Breida-- have been monsters.)

2.5 ppd-- Chris Olave (67.5 points, $27). Counted nine times, none were season-savers.
2.0 ppd-- Tyler Lockett (38.6 points, $19). Counted six times, none were season-savers.
2.2 ppd-- Jahan Dotson (30.3 points, $14). Counted five times, none were season-savers.
0.0 ppd-- Rashod Bateman (0 points, $11). Urgh.
0.6 ppd-- Elijah Moore (7 points, $11). Counted SIX TIMES, added <1 marginal point in five of them and a whopping +3.2 in the sixth. (Ralph Wiggum "I'm Helping" gif.)
0.5 ppd-- Marvin Mims (3.7 points, $8). Reverse Elijah Moore. Posted 20.3 points in Week 2. That's... pretty much it.
3.6 ppd-- Jayden Reed (24.9 points, $7). Counted five times, none were season-savers.
0.0 ppd-- Justyn Ross (0 points, $5). Still a better pick than Rashod Bateman.
(By far my worst unit, really no good picks in the group, which is disgusting with $102 spent. I've only flexed six receivers all year. Woooooof.)

4.4 ppd-- Dalton Kincaid (43.9 points, $10). Counted zero times in the first six weeks, then six times in the next six, including one season-saver in Week 7.
9.9 ppd-- Sam LaPorta (88.7 points, $9). Counted ten times (most of anyone), but none were season-savers.
7.3 ppd-- Jake Ferguson (43.6 points, $6). Counted four times, no season-savers.
2.8 ppd-- Luke Musgrave (16.8 points, $6). Counted four times, no season-savers.
(Incredible value: I've used at least one flex at TE in 9 of 13 weeks, including two weeks were both of my flexes were TEs and three weeks where a TE was my top-scoring non-flex. All for $31.)

6.1 ppd-- Jake Elliott (30.3 points, $5). Counted seven times, but none were season-savers.
6.9 ppd-- Greg Zuerlein (27.6 points, $4). Thought the Rodgers injury would sink him, but he's been okay. Counted four times, no season-savers.
6.0 ppd-- Wil Lutz (24.0 points, $4). Has only counted twice all year. Saved my season both times (+8.9 when I cleared by 6.6, +15.1 when I cleared by 12.25). My official mascot.
Overall, the unit gave me 14.5ppg for $13.

7.1 ppd-- Dallas Defense (50 points, $7). Counted six times, no season-savers.
4.5 ppd-- Denver Defense (18 points, $4). Counted seven times, only added 5, 4, 3, 2, 2, 1, and 1 points, no season-savers.
Overall, the unit gave me 10.3ppg for $11.

Positional comparison:
RB -- $57 spent on 6 players, 18.6 points per start, nine flexes all year.
WR -- $102 spent on 8 players, 15.8 points per start, six flexes all year.
TE -- $31 spent on 4 players, 17.7 points per start, eleven flexes all year.

QB -- $36 spent, 29.5 ppg
PK -- $13 spent, 14.5 ppg
Def -- $11 spent, 10.3 ppg

Value picks (3+ points per dollar):
20.5 -- Kyren Williams
12.3 -- Zach Moss
10.9 -- Raheem Mostert
9.9 -- Sam LaPorta
7.3 -- Jake Ferguson
6.2 -- Jordan Love
5.9 -- Alvin Kamara
5.9 -- Brock Purdy
4.4 -- Dalton Kincaid
3.6 -- Jayden Reed

Workhorses (40+ points added):
109.0 -- Raheem Mostert
88.7 -- Sam LaPorta
88.5 -- Alvin Kamara
81.9 -- Kyren Williams
70.3 -- Brock Purdy
67.5 -- Chris Olave
55.8 -- Jordan Love
43.9 -- Dalton Kincaid
43.6 -- Jake Ferguson

Guardian Angels (times they saved me from the Cut Lion):
2 -- Wil Lutz (for $4)
1 -- Dalton Kincaid (for $10)
1 -- Alvin Kamara (for $15)

Taking up Space (<1 point per dollar):
$15 -- Anthony Richardson
$11 -- Rashod Bateman
$11 -- Elijah Moore
$8 -- Marvin Mims
$5 -- Justyn Ross
$4 -- Matt Breida
If I simply unchecked all of those boxes, I would have scored 19.75 fewer points over the season, not had to sweat any cut lions more than I already did, and had $54 extra dollars to spend. (He hasn't been total dead weight, but I could also cut Conner; this would cost me another 36.3 points, leave me counting a 0.3 and a 0 at RB in two weeks, and drop me to just 2.05 points above the Week 11 cut lion, but would free up another $20. I think if I really wanted to cut to the bone I'd still be alive if I cut Jordan Love, Luke Musgrave, Greg Zuerlein, and Denver's Defense, too, which would shave another $23, leaving me at $153 spent and 15 players rostered.)

Without doing the marginal points analysis (impressive), I see that I could have survived through week 13 without WRs Dotson, Hodgins, Wilson, TE Waller, Ks Carlson, Fairbairn, and D Texans... that would have been $49 back in my pocket (with which I would likely have added studs Nick Chubb and Mike Williams to my squad, along with a crisp $2 bill).

I almost could have survived without TE Musgrave as well... but needed either him or Dotson to survive Week 9 (and he's the cheaper one, so he stays).
 
wow... Lawrence out with the dreaded high ankle sprain and Tank Dell is gone for the season. Being eliminated on wk 13 was a mercy killing.
 
Week 13 QB Review
5 (1%) No QB -- 0% survival
100 (20%) 1 QB -- 49% survival
241 (48%) 2 QBs -- 63% survival
136 (27%) 3 QBs -- 67% survival
18 (4%) 4 QBs -- 50% survival
2 (0%) 5 QBs -- 50% survival
 
Great.

Post your final lineup here by Monday night 9/4 at 11:59 PM ET. And if that exact lineup finishes in the top 250 spots, I'll throw in an additional $100 on top of whatever prize you win.

I need one of you folks to volunteer to be judge on this and let me know who wins and who I need to pay.
Here's your answer @BroncosFan07

It doesn't matter if you get booted in week 14. The only thing that matters is you finish in the top 250, which means roughly 70 that get booted this week will still be eligible for the extra $100. Best of luck to the 6 that remain.
 
I've been looking at QBs all season, tracking performance based on how many were rostered vs. active and what those survival rates were, but realized what I was really interested in was less the $ of QBs, but more how much roster $ people tied up in the position, trying to figure out how much is too much (limiting you at other positions) vs. how much was too little (given the importance of this high-scoring position and my own 1-QB experiment this season). I picked week 10 to look at initially, because contest survival was a nice round 10%.

$61 seems to be the "too much" line for QBs this season. As of week 10, when again contest survival was 10% overall, those roosters who spent $61+ at QB survived at only about a 3% clip (3.4% for $61-65, 2.3% for $66+). By contrast, just below that threshold, those roosters who spent $56-60 on QBs survived at a 9.4% rate, which is pretty close to contest average. This "almost as good as average" rate holds up for the entire $41-60 range, with $26-40 being the sweet spot with a better-than-average 11% survival rate.

$20 seems to be the "too little" line this season. Those roosters spending $21-25 had an "almost as good as average" survival rate of 9.7% through week 10, but those who spend $20 or less survived at a 7.9% rate, though many of these sub-$20 survivors rostered Sam Howell, so I expect this group's survival rate will look even less comparable to average after week 14 (his bye) than it did after week 10.

I'll update this analysis again after week 14 as what really matters to most of us is making (and/or succeeding in) the playoffs, and admittedly things are a bit incomplete with Howell's bye yet to come as well as the fact that the higher elimination rates in these final weeks could have different impacts on which QB expenditure amounts did better/worse.

And of course, much of the game isn't just how much you spend, but spending it on the right players. Rodgers and Richardson got you into the sweet spot range on QB expenditures at $30, but that was not a winning strategy this year.
 
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Even with Sam Howell on his bye week, I have to say that looking at these matchups I feel pretty good about having Jordan Love and Jared Goff going this week.

Bailey Zappe vs. Mitch Trubisky
CJ Beathard vs. Joe Flacco
Gardner Minshew vs. Jake Browning
Baker Mayfield vs. Desmond Ritter
Josh Dobbs vs. Aidan O’Connell
Bryce Young vs. Jameis Winston
 
Week 14 QB Status
16 (5%) No QB
134 (44%) 1 QB
128 (42%) 2 QBs
23 (8%) 3 QBs
1 (<1%) 4 QBs
This is active, current status for this week, with byes, ETC?

Yes, not the # rostered, but # expected to be a starting QB this week (accounting for injuries, byes, benchings, etc.)

An example of an unfortunate 0 QB team this week is Rooster 105116, featuring Rodgers, Carr, Pickett, and Howell. Clearly this team has been mostly riding Howell (except week 3 Pickett and week 7 Carr, though they would have survived both times with just Howell).

Of the 134 single-QB roosters this week, 2 of them only rostered a single QB (including me), 56 rostered two, 72 rostered 3, and 1 rostered 4. The most common inactive QBs for this group of 134 roosters are Howell 82, Pickett 39, Carr 18, Lawrence 14, Rodgers 11, Jones 11, Richardson 10, Burrow 9, Cousins 8, and then five others with 3 or less each. The most common active QBs for the single-QB roosters this week are 33 Love, 19 Goff, 18 Tua, 16 Hurts, 13 Herbert, 9 Geno, 6 Mahomes, and then eight others with 5 or less each.
 
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If my team makes the top 250 and I get Joe's extra $100, I'll add it to the eventual winner's food bank donation. Thanks again for running this contest, it's always fun and my team's survival has been basically a miracle given all the injuries, so hopefully the extra food can be a small miracle for someone in need.

@Joe Bryant
 
Going into this week with two receivers: DeVante Parker out, Dotson out, Christian Watson out, Mack Hollins likely out, and Skyy Moore is 12th on the depth chart.
 
Well I sure hope Warren and Pickens don't end up counting for me.
Same but unfortunately with Dotson on bye and Dell hurt and a couple of guys basically dead money, I might end up taking Picken’s 6.8 points.

I need 2 of Sutton, Flowers, or Reynolds. Feels like a good time for Josh Reynolds to step up
 
I've been out of town all week - went and saw a couple NHL games... but here are the year to date averages through week 13. Good luck to all of you with one week to go before the money round!

=== Corrected Copy ===

This week 13​
Last week 12​
FootballGuy:SizeWeek 1Week 2Week 3Week 4Week5Week 6Week 7Week 8Week9Week 10Week11Week 12Week 13TotalAverage
1​
1​
ZWK26165.25182.25191.50216.30223.55168.00218.30180.45160.85162.25178.10193.40202.502442.70187.90
2​
2​
The Stray Doug19186.90153.25178.25210.55192.00138.75173.15208.50134.60177.05173.00156.95194.652277.60175.20
4​
4​
jdkapow24164.05169.85199.75147.40221.30170.45183.90199.15136.65161.70150.40167.20200.152271.95174.77
3​
3​
Scottybo20125.90182.45216.75133.85209.55189.20194.55167.65182.55156.00150.00166.10176.802251.35173.18
7​
8​
dbc92525150.95177.15170.95150.20202.00154.75174.20207.35149.05156.20166.50166.60212.952238.85172.22
6​
5​
BrncosFan0728126.15207.24207.85169.70208.90173.35166.70168.90156.70145.65146.20168.50186.152231.99171.69

ZWK is still running away with it!
Congrats to @dbc925 for posting the 8th highest overall score this week.

Failed to make the cut in week 13: :crying: fear the bald, and TrishaRitasBoys
 
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I've been out of town all week - went and saw a couple NHL games... but here are the year to date averages through week 13. Good luck to all of you with one week to go before the money round!

This week 13​
Last week 12​
FootballGuy:SizeWeek 1Week 2Week 3Week 4Week5Week 6Week 7Week 8Week9Week 10Week11Week 12Week 13TotalAverage
1​
1​
ZWK26165.25182.25191.50216.30223.55168.00218.30180.45160.85162.25178.10193.40202.502442.70187.90
2​
2​
The Stray Doug19186.90153.25178.25210.55192.00138.75173.15208.50134.60177.05173.00156.95194.652277.60175.20
4​
4​
jdkapow24164.05169.85199.75147.40221.30170.45183.90199.15136.65161.70150.40167.20200.152271.95174.77
3​
3​
Scottybo20125.90182.45216.75133.85209.55189.20194.55167.65182.55156.00150.00166.10176.802251.35173.18
7​
8​
dbc92525150.95177.15170.95150.20202.00154.75174.20207.35149.05156.20166.50166.60212.952238.85172.22
6​
5​
BrncosFan0728126.15207.24207.85169.70208.90173.35166.70168.90156.70145.65146.20168.50186.152231.99171.69

ZWK is still running away with it!
Congrats to @dbc925 for posting the 8th highest overall score this week.

Failed to make the cut in week 13: :crying: fear the bald, and @BroncosFan07
You have @BroncosFan07 as both surviving and being eliminated. He is still alive.
 
I've been out of town all week - went and saw a couple NHL games... but here are the year to date averages through week 13. Good luck to all of you with one week to go before the money round!

This week 13​
Last week 12​
FootballGuy:SizeWeek 1Week 2Week 3Week 4Week5Week 6Week 7Week 8Week9Week 10Week11Week 12Week 13TotalAverage
1​
1​
ZWK26165.25182.25191.50216.30223.55168.00218.30180.45160.85162.25178.10193.40202.502442.70187.90
2​
2​
The Stray Doug19186.90153.25178.25210.55192.00138.75173.15208.50134.60177.05173.00156.95194.652277.60175.20
4​
4​
jdkapow24164.05169.85199.75147.40221.30170.45183.90199.15136.65161.70150.40167.20200.152271.95174.77
3​
3​
Scottybo20125.90182.45216.75133.85209.55189.20194.55167.65182.55156.00150.00166.10176.802251.35173.18
7​
8​
dbc92525150.95177.15170.95150.20202.00154.75174.20207.35149.05156.20166.50166.60212.952238.85172.22
6​
5​
BrncosFan0728126.15207.24207.85169.70208.90173.35166.70168.90156.70145.65146.20168.50186.152231.99171.69

ZWK is still running away with it!
Congrats to @dbc925 for posting the 8th highest overall score this week.

Failed to make the cut in week 13: :crying: fear the bald, and @BroncosFan07
You have @BroncosFan07 as both surviving and being eliminated. He is still alive.
Thank you - I made the correction. (I had inadvertently copied and pasted the wrong line in the spreadsheet)
 
Looking ahead to 3 SNF/MNF games, if you're sweating the Turk after the late games finish up and wondering who will could potentially move the line the most, the most widely owned active players are as follows (302 teams remain).

SNF
116 Jake Ferguson
63 Tony Pollard
57 Kenneth Gainwell - "mostly dead"
35 Jalen Hurts - 16 roosters expected to count him from zero (or 15 if Lawrence plays)
28 Jake Elliott
25 Philadelphia Eagles
24 Dak Prescott - 2 roosters expected to count him from zero
21 Dallas Cowboys
21 CeeDee Lamb
20 Brandin Cooks
15 A.J. Brown
14 DeVonta Smith

MNF (both games)
111 Raheem Mostert
100 Jordan Love - 33 roosters expected to count him from zero (or 28 if Lawrence plays)
58 Tyreek Hill
49 Romeo Doubs
46 Jalin Hyatt - "mostly dead"
43 Tua Tagovailoa - 18 roosters expected to count him from zero (or 15 if Lawrence plays)
42 Anders Carlson
42 Jason Sanders
29 Jayden Reed
26 Tennessee Titans
19 Tyjae Spears - "mostly dead"
14 Darius Slayton
 
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Just noticed Rooster 108565, who is the only entry in the entire contest whose TE strategy was "Hunter Henry and nobody else". From week 6 onward has one of the 10-lowest margins of survival, but nevertheless has managed to survive this far, and got a nice 20.5 from him on TNF. Also only has 1 PK (Joseph).
 
Week 14 TE Status (excludes low-scorers)
8 (3%) No TE
87 (29%) 1 TE
161 (53%) 2 TEs
39 (13%) 3 TEs
5 (2%) 4 TEs
2 (1%) 5 TEs

Even though LaPorta is more widely owned than Ferguson overall (155 to 116), Ferguson is more common than LaPorta amongst single-active-TE teams (36 to 19)

48% of active "LaPorta-but-not-Ferguson" roosters also rostered Kincaid (vs. 17% of "Ferguson-but-not-LaPorta" roosters).

83% of remaining teams have at least one of LaPorta, Ferguson, or Kincaid.
 
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Only down Pickett, Waller and Dell this week. 17/20 is much better than the past few weeks. I think if I make it to the playoffs, it's probably within 5 of the cut line and I get carried by Ferguson, Goedert and Kamara.
 
81.4 Not going to get it done. Haha. Going to exit the same exact week as last season. :lol:

WR's really crapped the bed today. Only 32.3 pts from all 4.

Hurts (-0)
Walker/Mostert (-7.2/7.6)
Ferguson/Goedert (-0/7.2)
Sanders (-11.6)
Chargers (-3)

Probably finish 120 or so with a ceiling of 140, probably well under the cut line.
 
81.4 Not going to get it done. Haha. Going to exit the same exact week as last season. :lol:

WR's really crapped the bed today. Only 32.3 pts from all 4.

Hurts (-0)
Walker/Mostert (-7.2/7.6)
Ferguson/Goedert (-0/7.2)
Sanders (-11.6)
Chargers (-3)

Probably finish 120 or so with a ceiling of 140, probably well under the cut line.
Looks like Walker doesn't help at all today. Knock this down to 115 and 135 ceiling.
 
Sweating bullets on seeing the update. Had some good players, some bad ones, still missing a couple positions. No idea where I stand right now.
 
Goff!!! I needed a big week with my other 2 QBs out with injuries.

Josh Reynolds/Kamara/Mixon/Zay with respectable games to help out. Need Ferguson to come up big at TE.
 
I’ve been playing this contest for a long time, but this is the best I’ve ever done as I’m still alive, but my team is beaten up.

Roster:

Week 14​

QB Aaron Rodgers - $140.00
QB Jordan Love - $90.00
QB Jimmy Garoppolo - $90.00
RB Christian McCaffrey - $340.00
RB Aaron Jones - $260.00
RB James Cook - $180.00
RB Alvin Kamara - $150.00
RB Ezekiel Elliott - $723.50
RB Zack Moss - $40.00
RB Boston Scott - $30.00
WR DeAndre Hopkins - $190.00
WR Michael Thomas - $120.00
WR Romeo Doubs - $90.00
WR DJ Chark Jr. - $80.00
WR Jalin Hyatt - $40.00
WR Michael Wilson - $30.00
WR Tank Dell - $30.00
TE Darren Waller - $170.00
TE Taysom Hill - $80.00
TE Luke Musgrave - $60.00
PK Greg Zuerlein - $40.00
PK Brandon McManus - $40.00
PK Anders Carlson - $30.00
TD Green Bay Packers - $50.00
TD Los Angeles Chargers - $30.00
TD Carolina Panthers - $30.00
 
I have the lion not including last 2 of the late games (KC/BUF and LAC/DEN) at 95.1

Myself with a paltry 65.3. Will try to add the last 2 games now.

UPDATE: I've got it at 113.7 after adding those two games... myself at 87.6 and sweating hard. I'm sure I don't have it exactly right, but should be in the ballpark.
 
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Walker actually outscored Pickens and Chargers upped the Lions by 1. I'm up to 82.6 :excited:

Hurts (-0)
Mostert (-7.4)
Ferguson/Goedert (-0/7.4)
Sanders (-11.6)
 
I have the lion not including last 2 of the late games (KC/BUF and LAC/DEN) at 95.1

Myself with a paltry 65.3. Will try to add the last 2 games now.
Holy cow that's low. On to the finals! (I'm at 155 with Tyreek and Ferguson minus my 6.9 and 7.4 flexes).

Ah, it just updated. Cutline at 114.15.
 
I have the lion not including last 2 of the late games (KC/BUF and LAC/DEN) at 95.1

Myself with a paltry 65.3. Will try to add the last 2 games now.
Holy cow that's low. On to the finals! (I'm at 155 with Tyreek and Ferguson minus my 6.9 and 7.4 flexes).

Ah, it just updated. Cutline at 114.15.

HEY! No need to rub it in... oh, you meant the cut lion :wink:

Still to go: all of Herd Ferguson and presumably all of Tyreek... then either J Reed or I Hodgins trying to replace a 5.9 flex

If Herbert ends up missing time or returns but can't throw as well, then it's all moot anyway even if I were to advance... had to eat a 3.8 from him today.
 
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I'm currently in the top 250. Probably not moving on but want the moral victory of top 250 and that $100 to the food bank.
 
I have the lion not including last 2 of the late games (KC/BUF and LAC/DEN) at 95.1

Myself with a paltry 65.3. Will try to add the last 2 games now.

UPDATE: I've got it at 113.7 after adding those two games... myself at 87.6 and sweating hard. I'm sure I don't have it exactly right, but should be in the ballpark.

Huh, I didn't feel great about how things were going but just added it up and I'm around 135, with Ferguson tonight, Mostert & Tyreek tomorrow.

Might be moot as I may have lost Justin Herbert for the playoffs which would drastically limit my upside.
 
Walker actually outscored Pickens and Chargers upped the Lions by 1. I'm up to 82.6 :excited:

Hurts (-0)
Mostert (-7.4)
Ferguson/Goedert (-0/7.4)
Sanders (-11.6)
Need massive games from all above, but I'd guess Hurts gets 28-35, Mostert 10-14, Ferguson 12-16, Goedert 6-10 and Sanders 8-12. Even on the high end of those guesses, I'm only at 143 and way under the likely high cut-line. Might make the top 250 at least. Good luck to all of those that move on.

Will have to try better next season to make it past week 14. Only my 2nd time in the contest, so I'm still learning the best strategies. Not bad to get to Week 14 in both of my tries, though I guess.
 

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