2024-25 NBA Thread: Celtics fan proudly looking at 2027 revenue projections (58 Viewers)

[Ministry of Pain]

Good effort by the Knicks so far
Doing a good job to push it back to Indiana
Do the Pacers want to end it tonight or get into a deep Game 6 back at home?
2nd Half should be interesting

 

[Capella]

For Gobert:

Leandro Balmaro
Walker Kessler
Jarred Vanderbilt
Malik Beasley
Keyonte George
Pick #21
2026 1st round pick swap which won't convey
2027 1st round pick
2029 1st round pick (top 5 protected)

It’s not the worst trade ever in hindsight but it sure ain’t the best and it hurt their flexibility going forward. Along with how he clogs the toilet on offense. But I don’t know enough to say if they made it this far the last two years without him either.

Well, the new CBA hurt their flexibility. The Wolves would have never traded for him if they knew those cap rules were coming.

That CBA is going to crush everybody. It sucks.

 

[Nick Vermeil]

The Pacers have zero and a double zero on their roster. Mathematically I can’t root for that.

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

The Pacers have zero and a double zero on their roster. Mathematically I can’t root for that.

What about if a team has a one and an eleven, or a two and twenty-two?

 

[Nick Vermeil]

The Pacers have zero and a double zero on their roster. Mathematically I can’t root for that.

What about if a team has a one and an eleven, or a two and twenty-two?

Touché.

 

[Yo Mama]

For Gobert:

Leandro Balmaro
Walker Kessler
Jarred Vanderbilt
Malik Beasley
Keyonte George
Pick #21
2026 1st round pick swap which won't convey
2027 1st round pick
2029 1st round pick (top 5 protected)

It’s not the worst trade ever in hindsight but it sure ain’t the best and it hurt their flexibility going forward. Along with how he clogs the toilet on offense. But I don’t know enough to say if they made it this far the last two years without him either.

Well, the new CBA hurt their flexibility. The Wolves would have never traded for him if they knew those cap rules were coming.

That CBA is going to crush everybody. It sucks.

Yeah I’m still shocked they didn’t give each team an amnesty arrangement for one salary from the previous CBA.

If they do an expansion next year, the draft could be interesting. Normally, teams trade draft picks to the expansion teams to not take their players. I could see expansion teams getting lots of picks to take on bad contracts as a form of amnesty.

 

[Frostillicus]

For Gobert:

Leandro Balmaro
Walker Kessler
Jarred Vanderbilt
Malik Beasley
Keyonte George
Pick #21
2026 1st round pick swap which won't convey
2027 1st round pick
2029 1st round pick (top 5 protected)

It’s not the worst trade ever in hindsight but it sure ain’t the best and it hurt their flexibility going forward. Along with how he clogs the toilet on offense. But I don’t know enough to say if they made it this far the last two years without him either.

Well, the new CBA hurt their flexibility. The Wolves would have never traded for him if they knew those cap rules were coming.

That CBA is going to crush everybody. It sucks.

Yeah I’m still shocked they didn’t give each team an amnesty arrangement for one salary from the previous CBA.

If they do an expansion next year, the draft could be interesting. Normally, teams trade draft picks to the expansion teams to not take their players. I could see expansion teams getting lots of picks to take on bad contracts as a form of amnesty.

We should find someone to run a mock expansion thing on this board for us.

 

[Gr00vus]

This game is kinda ugly. Lot of stupid going on.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I would have called a Flagrant 1

 

[Yo Mama]

For Gobert:

Leandro Balmaro
Walker Kessler
Jarred Vanderbilt
Malik Beasley
Keyonte George
Pick #21
2026 1st round pick swap which won't convey
2027 1st round pick
2029 1st round pick (top 5 protected)

It’s not the worst trade ever in hindsight but it sure ain’t the best and it hurt their flexibility going forward. Along with how he clogs the toilet on offense. But I don’t know enough to say if they made it this far the last two years without him either.

Well, the new CBA hurt their flexibility. The Wolves would have never traded for him if they knew those cap rules were coming.

That CBA is going to crush everybody. It sucks.

Yeah I’m still shocked they didn’t give each team an amnesty arrangement for one salary from the previous CBA.

If they do an expansion next year, the draft could be interesting. Normally, teams trade draft picks to the expansion teams to not take their players. I could see expansion teams getting lots of picks to take on bad contracts as a form of amnesty.

We should find someone to run a mock expansion thing on this board for us.

Oh I’m definitely already trying to figure out how to do something like this for an expansion draft.

I’ll also roll out a draft of some sort after the finals - working through the kinks right now.

 

[TLEF316]

Reggie clearly just called Towns "her".

Hes never beating the zesty allegations

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Pacers will win this game

 

[Redwes25]

The Pacers have zero and a double zero on their roster. Mathematically I can’t root for that.

What about if a team has a one and an eleven, or a two and twenty-two?

00 is not a number it is just 0

 

[Redwes25]

Pacers will win this game

Nope - glad we are going back to Indy

 

[msudaisy26]

Barkely said game 6 is must win for the Pacers. So Pacers will lose and then win game 7.

 

[Kev4029]

Ant just needs better spacing, some more shooters and/or a second elite scorer. He’s a one man band out there offensively. The rest of this stuff is just ESPN hot take/Kendrick Perkins nonsense.

I mean he does have quality role players who can shoot but I really think the guy holding them back is Gobert. Imagine what kind of offensive weapon they could add with all that salary.

Rudy is a huge part of their success in the last two seasons though. I'm 100% serious when I say he's the biggest reason for their success, behind Ant. Now, if this is as far as they can go with him? That's a differnt discussion.

Rudy is such an interesting player. Even with the DPOYs, I think he has been one of the most underrated players (or maybe misunderstood?) in the NBA. He is one of the best floor raisers that the NBA has had over the last decade because he is such a defensive force. The obvious issue is that he also presents an offensive ceiling that is way easier to see than his defensive contributions, I think.

If your goal was to win a playoff series, I think Gobert has been the 2nd best center in the NBA over the course of the last decade (or 3rd if AD wants to consider himself a center). If your goal was to win a championship, he slides way down that list. At this point, a young team could use his style of play but his defense is slipping while his hands and offense have gotten significantly worse so he isn't worth it for a team like Minnesota. I'd probably still rather have him over KAT, especially when salary is considered.

 

[cheese]

Barkely said game 6 is must win for the Pacers. So Pacers will lose and then win game 7.

Pacers winning game 7 in NY a 2nd straight year is the optimal outcome.

 

[cheese]

The Pacers have zero and a double zero on their roster. Mathematically I can’t root for that.

The pacers had a game this year where the starting lineup jersey numbers totaled 6.

Mathurin
Haliburton
Toppin
Nembhard
Bryant

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Pacers are battling the Refs in Game 6, the NBA wants to see the Knicks host a Game 7 at MSG
They would prefer if the Knicks would make the Finals

But a Thunder-Pacers match up would actually be fun
The Thunder would demolish the Knicks in 4, maybe 5 if they fall asleep one night

The insane amount of celebrities at MSG last game, Miles Teller coming out of nowhere because he's buddies with Chalamet

 

[Kev4029]

Pacers are battling the Refs in Game 6, the NBA wants to see the Knicks host a Game 7 at MSG
They would prefer if the Knicks would make the Finals

But a Thunder-Pacers match up would actually be fun
The Thunder would demolish the Knicks in 4, maybe 5 if they fall asleep one night

The insane amount of celebrities at MSG last game, Miles Teller coming out of nowhere because he's buddies with Chalamet

I was surprised to see OKC lose a single game to the Wolves and the Wolves are significantly better than either the Knicks or the Pacers. If I didn't clear out my betting account by noman Powell hitting a three down 5 with one second left in game 1 of the first round, I would put that same 20 bucks on a sweep in the finals.

 

[Capella]

the Wolves are significantly better than either the Knicks or the Pacers.

They are definitely not.

 

[Jayrod]

the Wolves are significantly better than either the Knicks or the Pacers.

They are definitely not.

T-Wolves are a team with holes.

I think the Pacers are the obvious #3 in these playoffs. The Nuggets were #2.

Indy has some holes but they are smaller and they cover them better.

Unfortunately their advantage of depth is negated vs OKC because they are just as deep and more talented across the board.

 

[Zow]

the Wolves are significantly better than either the Knicks or the Pacers.

They are definitely not.

I agree they aren't significantly better but I'd put money on the Wolves in a series versus either team.*

*Though the Pacers played the Wolves well this year - ****ing Toppen.

 

[msudaisy26]

the Wolves are significantly better than either the Knicks or the Pacers.

They are definitely not.

Yeah significantly better is a reach for me.

 

[Zow]

the Wolves are significantly better than either the Knicks or the Pacers.

They are definitely not.

T-Wolves are a team with holes.

I think the Pacers are the obvious #3 in these playoffs. The Nuggets were #2.

Indy has some holes but they are smaller and they cover them better.

Unfortunately their advantage of depth is negated vs OKC because they are just as deep and more talented across the board.

I know I'm a biased Wolves fan, but I think you're way too down on this team.

 

[Frostillicus]

Wolves are easily the best team in teh entire NBA. Refs screwed them over 4 times.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Zion’s off season not quite going as planned…..yikes

 

[mr. furley]

Zion’s off season not quite going as planned…..yikes

seems not great https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/nba/article-14765391/NBA-star-Zion-Williamson-accused-rape.html

 

[msudaisy26]

Zion’s off season not quite going as planned…..yikes

seems not great https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/nba/article-14765391/NBA-star-Zion-Williamson-accused-rape.html

It is almost like him and Morant have a contest going to see which one of them can mess up their lives/careers quicker.

 

[Capella]

the Wolves are significantly better than either the Knicks or the Pacers.

They are definitely not.

T-Wolves are a team with holes.

I think the Pacers are the obvious #3 in these playoffs. The Nuggets were #2.

Indy has some holes but they are smaller and they cover them better.

Unfortunately their advantage of depth is negated vs OKC because they are just as deep and more talented across the board.

I know I'm a biased Wolves fan, but I think you're way too down on this team.

I’d say they are better than maybe the Knicks. Probably not Indy, I’d definitely favor the pacers in 5 or 6 there. Think healthy Denver would beat them too. Cavs. Also Celtics before Tatum died. Top-5 or 6 team.

 

[Zow]

the Wolves are significantly better than either the Knicks or the Pacers.

They are definitely not.

T-Wolves are a team with holes.

I think the Pacers are the obvious #3 in these playoffs. The Nuggets were #2.

Indy has some holes but they are smaller and they cover them better.

Unfortunately their advantage of depth is negated vs OKC because they are just as deep and more talented across the board.

I know I'm a biased Wolves fan, but I think you're way too down on this team.

I’d say they are better than maybe the Knicks. Probably not Indy, I’d definitely favor the pacers in 5 or 6 there. Think healthy Denver would beat them too. Cavs. Also Celtics before Tatum died. Top-5 or 6 team.

Teams I wouldn't bet on the Wolves against:
OKC (they're the best, duh)
Boston (healthy version)
Cavs (don't love the matchup)

I'd probably take the Wolves out of favoritism but it's a toss up:
Clippers (sneaky good IMO - though they'd Clipper it up in game 7)
Nuggets (Wolves match up well, but best player in the world)

Pacers (Ehhh all right - I still like the Wolves but that's probably my bias showing and Wolves struggled against them during the regular season)

Teams I'd bet on the Wolves against and feel good about it:
Knicks
Rockets
Lakers
Warriors
Bucks

So, I'd have them 4th. Jayrod seems to have them like 10th.

 

[Capella]

Just remembered Haliburton did that choke sign and the Pacers had a 3-1 lead

 

[msudaisy26]

Just remembered Haliburton did that choke sign and the Pacers had a 3-1 lead

I want a super close game seven so bad. The amount of choke signs in the crowd would be awesome.

 

[Corporation]

the Wolves are significantly better than either the Knicks or the Pacers.

They are definitely not.

T-Wolves are a team with holes.

I think the Pacers are the obvious #3 in these playoffs. The Nuggets were #2.

Indy has some holes but they are smaller and they cover them better.

Unfortunately their advantage of depth is negated vs OKC because they are just as deep and more talented across the board.

I know I'm a biased Wolves fan, but I think you're way too down on this team.

I’d say they are better than maybe the Knicks. Probably not Indy, I’d definitely favor the pacers in 5 or 6 there. Think healthy Denver would beat them too. Cavs. Also Celtics before Tatum died. Top-5 or 6 team.

Teams I wouldn't bet on the Wolves against:
OKC (they're the best, duh)
Boston (healthy version)
Cavs (don't love the matchup)

I'd probably take the Wolves out of favoritism but it's a toss up:
Clippers (sneaky good IMO - though they'd Clipper it up in game 7)
Nuggets (Wolves match up well, but best player in the world)

Pacers (Ehhh all right - I still like the Wolves but that's probably my bias showing and Wolves struggled against them during the regular season)

Teams I'd bet on the Wolves against and feel good about it:
Knicks
Rockets
Lakers
Warriors
Bucks

So, I'd have them 4th. Jayrod seems to have them like 10th.

Yeah I think the only objection is the word "significantly". I do think they are flatly better than the Knicks, but I don't think I would say significantly better. The Pacers matchup I think is really even but I would probably have a very slight lean to the Pacers. The Twolves are in the 5 - 7 range.

 

[msudaisy26]

I don't really care who wins this series, but I am a Knicks fan tonight. This is the game seven we all want and deserve.

 

[Capella]

I don't really care who wins this series, but I am a Knicks fan tonight. This is the game seven we all want and deserve.

Yea I agree but I think the Pacers run them.

Also a game 7 on a Monday night is really lame. Not sure how the NBA screwed that up.

 

[boilerdave]

The Pacers need to win this game.
I think they will.

 

[msudaisy26]

So I see KAT remembered it is an elimination game.

 

[msudaisy26]

The Pacers are on fire.

 

[Major]

The Pacers are on fire.

56% from 3 (13-23). Not bad

 

[dickey moe]

Knicks might want to try not throwing the ball away.

 

[boilerdave]

This is fun right now.

 

[mr. furley]

dislocated or a clean break?

 

[GroveDiesel]

Pacers were not about to have to go back to NY and try to win a game 7 in front of all those celebrities.

 

[Harry Frogfish]

Okay so that's over with. North Korea in 5 or 6 is the question.

 

[msudaisy26]

Some of these dunks by Toppin look like this matchup was personal.

 

[dickey moe]

The Pacers D was stifling tonight.

 

[Mister CIA]

Yes'cer

 

[msudaisy26]

And a logo three to put the nail in.

 

[Major]

Pacers were not about to have to go back to NY and try to win a game 7 in front of all those celebrities.

They did it last year but to do it again would be a tough ask.