Otis
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Guys, he made $100 million playing a game. This is the opposite of sad.This is just so sad. Great talent.
Guys, he made $100 million playing a game. This is the opposite of sad.This is just so sad. Great talent.
This would only work if Irsay accidentally hits "accept" instead of "decline".The Giants could trade Eli to Indy.
Yeah, its shocking more guys arent quitting after their first big contract.Good for him. If I made $100M I’d quit my job too.
If they hung around NFL alumni more maybe they would.Yeah, its shocking more guys arent quitting after their first big contract.
I doubt this partthe majority of guys in the nfl dont like playing football.
If you had a physical job that you didnt like, you made $100 million and you kept getting hurt and having difficulties with recovering, wouldn't you eventually just say "why am I doing this!?!" and walk away?
Rehab is terribly hard. I had heard he was not doing well with it. I dont blame him at all. It's not worth it and I'm surprised more athletes don't do this. instead they beat their bodies and brains into a pulp that doesnt get them past age 52.
Let's be honest... if any of you won the lottery and got 1/4 of what Luck has made, youd retire instantly!!!
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/13/jordan-cameron-a-lot-of-us-in-the-nfl-dont-love-football/I doubt this part
They’re a well balanced team they won’t be that bad. Maybe 7-9?Colts are going to get Tua now aren't they?
Way to be classy Colts fans. Indy is a ####hole.
Don't forget Gary Hogeboom...This seems like as good as time as any to break my 9 year lurking streak on this board.
I'm stunned and bummed out. But not a chance in hell I would've booed the guy if I was at that game tonight. Or any other night for that matter. He was fun to watch, played hard and he owes me nothing. I can't blame him for not wanting to potentially spend another year rehabbing. If I was 30 years old and had that kind of scratch, with a degree from Stanford, I'd probably do the same.
I've suffered through Jack Trudeau, Jeff George and Curtis Painter. (With an all-timer mixed in there somewhere). It could be worse than Brissett.
I wish him the best.
" A lot of us don't love playing the game" is different than "a majority don't like playing"
true but the point remains. guys play for their own reasons. Lucks reason wasnt because he loves football. and I would imagine many players share that opinion." A lot of us don't love playing the game" is different than "a majority don't like playing"
But back to the topic of Andrew Luck
I think he did love football, but injuries made him not love it anymoretrue but the point remains. guys play for their own reasons. Lucks reason wasnt because he loves football. and I would imagine many players share that opinion.
He was frustrated with rehab. at some point you're tired of being hurt. and to work your butt off that often for what? a job he didnt like and certainly didnt need?
That cannot be real, please for the love of God tell me thats not realNot fan of this guy but what was he thinking?
Doug Gottlieb
@GottliebShow
Retiring cause rehabbing is “too hard” is the most millennial thing ever #AndrewLuck
https://twitter.com/GottliebShow/status/1165442952832811008
That's fair, and I agree with you.I'm not suggesting he's not doing the right thing for him or isn't entitled to retire. I'm just reacting to suggestions that Colts fans who don't respond with stoic support are horrible people. The two things aren't mutually exclusive.
I hope the dbag that was booing and ripping his jersey off that they showed on espn this morning is publicly ridiculed.That's fair, and I agree with you.
They just presented a "bad look", but this "bad look" was on display for the world to see, and the boos were there for Luck's ears as he left the field for the last time, and that makes me sad.
Sure, to a minor extent.What about his teamates? Does Luck owe nothing to them?
I agree with this to a point. My criticism would be timing. Two weekends before the season? You don’t leave a loyal employer in a lurch. Had he announced 6 months ago and gave the team a chance to plan around this, that’s totally fine. But to do it now opens him up to some criticism (unless, of course, he has been previewing this possibility to the team for a while, which is possible).Sure, to a minor extent.
But many of us quit jobs all the time. A couple of months ago I left a job I had been at for seven years, did well for, and was personally very close with the owners of the firm. They were hurt and even some tears were shed but they’ve shown nothing but support and the notion that I should have been booed when making the best choice for my family is ludicrous. Same goes I’m sure for most of us in our jobs.
This was Luck’s job and nothing in his past suggests he didn’t give 100%. He should be able to quit without being booed.
Doug Gottlieb is kind of an idiot.That cannot be real, please for the love of God tell me thats not real
Fair point. I suppose Luck leaving is like only giving a two weeks notice when there is a big project/trial/etc in two weeks. That’s certainly not the ideal way to go. But, still, two weeks is the expected norm.I agree with this to a point. My criticism would be timing. Two weekends before the season? You don’t leave a loyal employer in a lurch. Had he announced 6 months ago and gave the team a chance to plan around this, that’s totally fine. But to do it now opens him up to some criticism (unless, of course, he has been previewing this possibility to the team for a while, which is possible).
Add me to the chorus of people who have always wondered why more players don't do this. The guy has his whole life in front of him and more money than he'll ever need. Why waste it working a job you don't like?Good for him. If I made $100M I’d quit my job too.
They'll find a way to suck for (the next) Luck.They’re a well balanced team they won’t be that bad. Maybe 7-9?
He and the team were frustrated with the rehab process. This was to some degree known for a little while. at least is what I heard.I agree with this to a point. My criticism would be timing. Two weekends before the season? You don’t leave a loyal employer in a lurch. Had he announced 6 months ago and gave the team a chance to plan around this, that’s totally fine. But to do it now opens him up to some criticism (unless, of course, he has been previewing this possibility to the team for a while, which is possible).
Because for a lot of them, they got to where they’re at because of their competitive drive. I’d wager it’s not an easy switch to flip simply because they’ve now “got enough money.”Add me to the chorus of people who have always wondered why more players don't do this. The guy has his whole life in front of him and more money than he'll ever need. Why waste it working a job you don't like?
Imagine being empty and insecure enough to feel compelled to come in here on a Saturday night to make this post.I know this probably isn't what colts fans want to hear right now, but Tom Brady has played in and won more games for the Patriots than manning and luck combined for the Colts.
I get it but lets imagine you are an engineer. And by age 29 you have made $90 million dollars. 3 years ago your arm got caught in some machine you work with, you toughed out the next couple months of the project with a bum shoulder and then had to take a year off of work to try rehab your shoulder so you could use it again. Then, this year, there is a collapse at the job site and your leg gets crushed. You are now looking at the potential of having to miss another year of work to do rehab on your leg. I think it is quite reasonable to say you are sick of the injuries, the surgeries, the pain killers, the rehab, etc. and to walk way with a small fortune no matter how good of an engineer you are.First of all, you DON'T retire while you're in the prime of your career! He's not even 30 yet, and he's already going to hang it up?! I really pray to God and hope that between now and tomorrow when he has the "retirement" press conference that he has second thoughts. Yeah, I know he's been injured, but I'll repeat the point I'm trying to make: Andrew Luck is in the PRIME of his career. He's not even 30 yet, which means he's in the PRIME of his career! This makes no sense whatsoever!
You have to work extra hard to get your taeks noticed on a big story.Not fan of this guy but what was he thinking?
Doug Gottlieb
@GottliebShow
Retiring cause rehabbing is “too hard” is the most millennial thing ever #AndrewLuck
https://twitter.com/GottliebShow/status/1165442952832811008
:facepalm:I know this probably isn't what colts fans want to hear right now, but Tom Brady has played in and won more games for the Patriots than manning and luck combined for the Colts.
I am sure there were some some major disagreements, conversations and arguments going on for awhile with Luck and Irsay. Maybe Luck wanted to retire a month ago but Irsay begged him to just wait and see (hoping Luck would change his mind). Maybe Luck didn't really want to retire but Irsay did something disrespectful- like aggressively pressuring Luck to go out and play when he wasn't ready or questioning his injury or toughness. If someone was kind of on the fence about their future at an organization and the hot head drunk pill popping owner puts you on blast or calls you out for being a #####, that could easily cause them to just say f-it and walk away on the spot. Maybe Luck got some new medical news that was worse than expected and found out he was going to have to miss this whole season as well.I agree with this to a point. My criticism would be timing. Two weekends before the season? You don’t leave a loyal employer in a lurch. Had he announced 6 months ago and gave the team a chance to plan around this, that’s totally fine. But to do it now opens him up to some criticism (unless, of course, he has been previewing this possibility to the team for a while, which is possible).
And even more so now as all the evidence comes out about the level of brain damage it can causethe majority of guys in the nfl dont like playing football.
If you had a physical job that you didnt like, you made $100 million and you kept getting hurt and having difficulties with recovering, wouldn't you eventually just say "why am I doing this!?!" and walk away?
Rehab is terribly hard. I had heard he was not doing well with it. I dont blame him at all. It's not worth it and I'm surprised more athletes don't do this. instead they beat their bodies and brains into a pulp that doesnt get them past age 52.
Let's be honest... if any of you won the lottery and got 1/4 of what Luck has made, youd retire instantly!!!
Maybe his heart/head was never into playing in the NFL. Remember that he turned down the NFL to go back to Stanford for his senior year.I am sure there were some some major disagreements, conversations and arguments going on for awhile with Luck and Irsay. Maybe Luck wanted to retire a month ago but Irsay begged him to just wait and see (hoping Luck would change his mind). Maybe Luck didn't really want to retire but Irsay did something disrespectful- like aggressively pressuring Luck to go out and play when he wasn't ready or questioning his injury or toughness. If someone was kind of on the fence about their future at an organization and the hot head drunk pill popping owner puts you on blast or calls you out for being a #####, that could easily cause them to just say f-it and walk away on the spot. Maybe Luck got some new medical news that was worse than expected and found out he was going to have to miss this whole season as well.
Maybe but I would think him returning for his senior year says that he at one time really loved football. If he didn’t like football, I would think he would take the first chance he got to start making money for it.Maybe his heart/head was never into playing in the NFL. Remember that he turned down the NFL to go back to Stanford for his senior year.
For the sake of Colts fans and his teammates, I wish this could have all gone down back in the spring.
Yes, I was listening to something (forget if it was radio or pod) and the person mentioned their sister had this bone development issue in college and she had to give up playing college soccer due to it. If that’s what the issue was, he was likely told he would be in significant pain for the rest of his career.There were rumors/speculation that the calf/ankle was a very serious congenital issue involving the painful formation of new bone material inside the leg.
I think it had to be something serious to keep him out the entire off-season and presumably now the regular season too. Remember even if he had come back now he had zero practice all off-season, hardly ideal preparation for the season.
I do wonder though if he's feeling better next spring whether there might be a change of heart. This feels emotional and rushed.
I think this has a lot to do with the reaction. He went through training camp and into preseason with the team built around him. The team took the field in the 3rd week of preseason.His timing was horrible and devastating to the Colts and their fans. Good luck #12 in your retirement, but I'm afraid you won't be fondly remembered like Barry Sanders or Jim Brown, or even Robert Smith.
I think that's a pretty immature response.His timing was horrible and devastating to the Colts and their fans. Good luck #12 in your retirement, but I'm afraid you won't be fondly remembered like Barry Sanders or Jim Brown, or even Robert Smith.
No they are pretty terrible people. Just like all fans that boo. At least that's we've been told for years here in Philly.I'm not suggesting he's not doing the right thing for him or isn't entitled to retire. I'm just reacting to suggestions that Colts fans who don't respond with stoic support are horrible people. The two things aren't mutually exclusive.
What would the Giants have to throw in?The Giants could trade Eli to Indy.
If the Colts want to they can get back around 24 million dollars in bonus money from Luck that was prorated per season and pre-paid. Will be interesting to see how this is handled.One way or another, fans pay all these guys' salaries. (Not saying they don't earn it...)
Sad for me as a fan of watching him play.Guys, he made $100 million playing a game. This is the opposite of sad.
I respect Luck's decision, albeit was horrible timing for the Colts, but it's a business decision. They should recoup as much as they can. They certainly don't owe Luck anything, just as he proved he doesn't owe the Colts, or their fans, a thing.If the Colts want to they can get back around 24 million dollars in bonus money from Luck that was prorated per season and pre-paid. Will be interesting to see how this is handled.
Calving Johnson is still miffed at the Lions for making him pay back part of his signing bonus when he quit and it was just over one million compared to 24 million..