safety is more about adapting to conditionsIf you're going to be driving a " high performance vehicle" and you can't keep it the speed limit on a freeway go sell it
Bro was doing 55 on a 65 to make it worsesafety is more about adapting to conditionsIf you're going to be driving a " high performance vehicle" and you can't keep it the speed limit on a freeway go sell it
speed limits are often antiquated revenue generators.
if you are driving 65 in the left lane of a 4 lane highway, you are the safety risk (and being socially irresponsible).
Bro was doing 55 on a 65 to make it worsesafety is more about adapting to conditionsIf you're going to be driving a " high performance vehicle" and you can't keep it the speed limit on a freeway go sell it
speed limits are often antiquated revenue generators.
if you are driving 65 in the left lane of a 4 lane highway, you are the safety risk (and being socially irresponsible).
Yep! An old pet peeve of mine was not having right and left sox. It only took what, a couple thousand years? I mean, we make shoes to fit very different feet, but not some threads for sox, wtf?Yea, I have a couple pair of socks that are foot specific and they are gloriousHave you ever worn the Nike basketball socks? They adjust where the cushioning is so yes there is in fact a difference.Socks that have a little L on one and an R on the other. Aren't all socks the same. I usually only notice after I put them on. Does it really matter ?
Idk about other socks.
Hopefully you're not dumb enough to run out of toilet paper.Tube sox are for kids; or to wipe your butt when there's no toilet paper.
The laziness is not making an appointment an expecting to get service when she was bookedThe haircut place closes at 6:00PM. I'm in luck, I arrive at 5:20PM. I walk in and see two hairdressers, one mid-cut and the other sitting on her hands.
"I'm sorry sir, there is already a 5:30PM appointment which is my last for the day."
So I didn't get a haircut. I get the whole "online appointment" thing and maybe I should have booked online, but just seems kind of silly I couldn't get a haircut with 40 minutes left to close. It was the weekend and I get it, next thing you know you're staying 10-15 minutes after close, but it just seemed like laziness vs a legitimate excuse. I mean, I could see if I walked in at 5:40PM and demanding service, but whatever.
And I'm wearing Milk Bone underwear.It's a dog eat dog world out there, lol. God bless.
lolThe laziness is not making an appointment an expecting to get service when she was bookedThe haircut place closes at 6:00PM. I'm in luck, I arrive at 5:20PM. I walk in and see two hairdressers, one mid-cut and the other sitting on her hands.
"I'm sorry sir, there is already a 5:30PM appointment which is my last for the day."
So I didn't get a haircut. I get the whole "online appointment" thing and maybe I should have booked online, but just seems kind of silly I couldn't get a haircut with 40 minutes left to close. It was the weekend and I get it, next thing you know you're staying 10-15 minutes after close, but it just seemed like laziness vs a legitimate excuse. I mean, I could see if I walked in at 5:40PM and demanding service, but whatever.
This is the craziest response anyone can ever make towards this post. Yes, I'm the bad guy for trying to get a walk-in haircut at a retail Hair Cuttery location that encourages walk-ins as the majority of their business.I'll think twice about my actions next time about attempting to patronize their establishment. Instead of their business existing to serve me, now I am "lazy" for not making an appointment online. Shame on me for walking into a retail location 40 minutes before closing. What was I thinking?!?! Those poor retail employees getting paid a living wage to provide a service in exchange for money, they're practically slaves.
That's my favorite part about society nowadays and my NEWEST pet peeve. People can never view interactions as neutral. I wasn't able to get a haircut, I accepted that fact and left without a sneeze. I'm cool with the outcome. The people at Hair Cuttery are cool with the outcome. But people on the internet? They're mad and need to pick a side!! Good guys vs bad guys at all times. It can't just be circumstantial or shades of gray. There must be a convincing protagonist and antagonist. It can't be no harm, no foul... somebody needs to win and somebody needs to lose.
It's a dog eat dog world out there, lol. God bless.
Then why did you post about it on the internet in something called the pet peeves thread?I wasn't able to get a haircut, I accepted that fact and left without a sneeze. I'm cool with the outcome. The people at Hair Cuttery are cool with the outcome.
The other week the family and I went out to a restaurant at 7:30 and it closed at 8. Since we were dining in they were a little annoyed (more of a fast food place than a fancy sit down place though.) It's tough. From our POV (customers) we want what we want when we want it but from their POV they have to pay their employee's wages and going over time limit costs THEM money.
The haircutting one may be different since depending on where he was they might be an independent contractor. Obviously they are people too and maybe after a shift all they want to do is go home or might have some other plans that don't include us.
We could have and it probably would have been the most polite thing but A.) It was fast food B.) We were starving. We were done well before 8 though and after we ordered and brought us our food she started cleaning. (sweeping+wipping down tables.) Not sure what else she'd have to do. Kitchen staff probably clean the kitchen though? If they said something like you have to get it to go or we've shut the kitchen down or we are out of BBQ then no big deal.The other week the family and I went out to a restaurant at 7:30 and it closed at 8. Since we were dining in they were a little annoyed (more of a fast food place than a fancy sit down place though.) It's tough. From our POV (customers) we want what we want when we want it but from their POV they have to pay their employee's wages and going over time limit costs THEM money.
The haircutting one may be different since depending on where he was they might be an independent contractor. Obviously they are people too and maybe after a shift all they want to do is go home or might have some other plans that don't include us.
Why not just get the food to go?
My issue with this, is that if that's the case then put a big sign that says the lobby closes at 7:30PM or 7:45PM.
That is a bunch of crap. No restaurant has the leave time for workers that are closing as the exact time the business hours end. Typically the "closers" have an hour or two after the official close time on the books for cleaning and getting the place ready for the next day. They don't lock the doors at 8pm and then everyone leave with dirty dishes, tables, etc.they have to pay their employee's wages and going over time limit costs THEM money.
You’re trying to have it both ways. Either it bothers you or it doesn’t. Clearly it does because you wouldn’t have posted in this thread if it didn’t. Your subsequent vacillations are a weak retort to people pushing back on your peeve. I don’t believe them. Own your peeve, even if others don’t support it.Then why did you post about it on the internet in something called the pet peeves thread?I wasn't able to get a haircut, I accepted that fact and left without a sneeze. I'm cool with the outcome. The people at Hair Cuttery are cool with the outcome.
Because it annoyed me, lol.
Am I not simultaneously allowed to be cool with something at face value but annoyed with it after the fact in my own thoughts?
It's definitely Monday, you guys are acting wild today.![]()
It's not the issue with the owner in these cases. Employees typically have to stay after the closing time to clean and close up the restaurant. The owner is expecting them to do that. It's not like the owner says you work until we close then leave immediately. In any restaurant I have worked the closing crew stays at least an hour after the business close time to clean and prep for the next day as necessary.If you're so concerned about paying your $15.00 an hour workers an extra $5.00 for staying over an extra 20 minutes, then make it an official policy of your establishment.
It costs me over 100/hr to keep the back of the house in the building past “closing”That is a bunch of crap. No restaurant has the leave time for workers that are closing as the exact time the business hours end. Typically the "closers" have an hour or two after the official close time on the books for cleaning and getting the place ready for the next day. They don't lock the doors at 8pm and then everyone leave with dirty dishes, tables, etc.they have to pay their employee's wages and going over time limit costs THEM money.
The reason the employees are doing this is because they don't want to stay longer to clean. When that is their job responsibility to do. Now staying in a restaurant and extra hour past closing time talking and bs'ing with your buddy preventing the workers from being able to clean and finish up......that is a different story. But coming into a restaurant at 7:45 when the close at 8pm is perfectly fine. Just don't dilly dally longer than you need to eat what you ordered. That is not the time for a leisurely dinner.
But isn't that a necessity? You can't just have everyone leave with a dirty kitchen and dining room, correct? I guess what do you consider "closing time"?It costs me over 100/hr to keep the back of the house in the building past “closing”That is a bunch of crap. No restaurant has the leave time for workers that are closing as the exact time the business hours end. Typically the "closers" have an hour or two after the official close time on the books for cleaning and getting the place ready for the next day. They don't lock the doors at 8pm and then everyone leave with dirty dishes, tables, etc.they have to pay their employee's wages and going over time limit costs THEM money.
The reason the employees are doing this is because they don't want to stay longer to clean. When that is their job responsibility to do. Now staying in a restaurant and extra hour past closing time talking and bs'ing with your buddy preventing the workers from being able to clean and finish up......that is a different story. But coming into a restaurant at 7:45 when the close at 8pm is perfectly fine. Just don't dilly dally longer than you need to eat what you ordered. That is not the time for a leisurely dinner.
I hate semis with the intensity of a thousand suns.Drove from Colorado to California over the weekend. I am sure it has been touched on in here but having big semi-trucks pass each other on two lane roads. It is especially annoying on an uphill where they completely screw up traffic flow causing both lanes to come to a near screeching halt. You are a big truck that is going to go slow up a hill. No need to try and pass another big trck when it takes you so much time it causes a back up for both lanes. Just stay in your lane bro.
Drove from Colorado to California over the weekend. I am sure it has been touched on in here but having big semi-trucks pass each other on two lane roads. It is especially annoying on an uphill where they completely screw up traffic flow causing both lanes to come to a near screeching halt. You are a big truck that is going to go slow up a hill. No need to try and pass another big trck when it takes you so much time it causes a back up for both lanes. Just stay in your lane bro.
That is a bunch of crap. No restaurant has the leave time for workers that are closing as the exact time the business hours end. Typically the "closers" have an hour or two after the official close time on the books for cleaning and getting the place ready for the next day. They don't lock the doors at 8pm and then everyone leave with dirty dishes, tables, etc.they have to pay their employee's wages and going over time limit costs THEM money.
The reason the employees are doing this is because they don't want to stay longer to clean. When that is their job responsibility to do. Now staying in a restaurant and extra hour past closing time talking and bs'ing with your buddy preventing the workers from being able to clean and finish up......that is a different story. But coming into a restaurant at 7:45 when the close at 8pm is perfectly fine. Just don't dilly dally longer than you need to eat what you ordered. That is not the time for a leisurely dinner.
7The other week the family and I went out to a restaurant at 7:30 and it closed at 8. Since we were dining in they were a little annoyed (more of a fast food place than a fancy sit down place though.) It's tough. From our POV (customers) we want what we want when we want it but from their POV they have to pay their employee's wages and going over time limit costs THEM money.
The haircutting one may be different since depending on where he was they might be an independent contractor. Obviously they are people too and maybe after a shift all they want to do is go home or might have some other plans that don't include us.
Mostly agree. I was in the restaurant industry for years. If you come in 15 minutes before closing, I may drop your check before you're done so I can close out my paperwork and as a passive aggressive reminder that we're closed , but you're not keeping me there any later than I would be anyway. Lingering for an hour and asking for additional things is a different story. Some places shut down their fryers early which can cause some issues with the kitchen, but that's really on them.That is a bunch of crap. No restaurant has the leave time for workers that are closing as the exact time the business hours end. Typically the "closers" have an hour or two after the official close time on the books for cleaning and getting the place ready for the next day. They don't lock the doors at 8pm and then everyone leave with dirty dishes, tables, etc.they have to pay their employee's wages and going over time limit costs THEM money.
The reason the employees are doing this is because they don't want to stay longer to clean. When that is their job responsibility to do. Now staying in a restaurant and extra hour past closing time talking and bs'ing with your buddy preventing the workers from being able to clean and finish up......that is a different story. But coming into a restaurant at 7:45 when the close at 8pm is perfectly fine. Just don't dilly dally longer than you need to eat what you ordered. That is not the time for a leisurely dinner.
7 what?
Any restaurant closer, front or back of the house worth their salt, will more or less be ready to go at closing time. Say 15, 20 minutes. The only way they’d have an hour or TWO! Worth of closing duties is if the place was PACKED right up until closing. Especially the back of the house. Everything can be put in place and cleaned leading up to close.But isn't that a necessity? You can't just have everyone leave with a dirty kitchen and dining room, correct? I guess what do you consider "closing time"?It costs me over 100/hr to keep the back of the house in the building past “closing”That is a bunch of crap. No restaurant has the leave time for workers that are closing as the exact time the business hours end. Typically the "closers" have an hour or two after the official close time on the books for cleaning and getting the place ready for the next day. They don't lock the doors at 8pm and then everyone leave with dirty dishes, tables, etc.they have to pay their employee's wages and going over time limit costs THEM money.
The reason the employees are doing this is because they don't want to stay longer to clean. When that is their job responsibility to do. Now staying in a restaurant and extra hour past closing time talking and bs'ing with your buddy preventing the workers from being able to clean and finish up......that is a different story. But coming into a restaurant at 7:45 when the close at 8pm is perfectly fine. Just don't dilly dally longer than you need to eat what you ordered. That is not the time for a leisurely dinner.
Me when I diePeople who are late...constantly. "Traffic was awful, etc"....Leave early to offset any delays.
Some janky $40 diner that keeps 5-8 people an extra hour certainly isn’t financially worth it but good publicity is.It costs me over 100/hr to keep the back of the house in the building past “closing”That is a bunch of crap. No restaurant has the leave time for workers that are closing as the exact time the business hours end. Typically the "closers" have an hour or two after the official close time on the books for cleaning and getting the place ready for the next day. They don't lock the doors at 8pm and then everyone leave with dirty dishes, tables, etc.they have to pay their employee's wages and going over time limit costs THEM money.
The reason the employees are doing this is because they don't want to stay longer to clean. When that is their job responsibility to do. Now staying in a restaurant and extra hour past closing time talking and bs'ing with your buddy preventing the workers from being able to clean and finish up......that is a different story. But coming into a restaurant at 7:45 when the close at 8pm is perfectly fine. Just don't dilly dally longer than you need to eat what you ordered. That is not the time for a leisurely dinner.
Not to be a contrarian, but if your entire staff was stuck an hour past closing you probably made more than $100 to make up for whatever caused such a delay.
Then what's the point of being open till 8? but like SHH said, it's not the owner, it's the staff.You're just being an assssshat at that point.
The haircut place closes at 6:00PM. I'm in luck, I arrive at 5:20PM. I walk in and see two hairdressers, one mid-cut and the other sitting on her hands.
"I'm sorry sir, there is already a 5:30PM appointment which is my last for the day."
So I didn't get a haircut. I get the whole "online appointment" thing and maybe I should have booked online, but just seems kind of silly I couldn't get a haircut with 40 minutes left to close. It was the weekend and I get it, next thing you know you're staying 10-15 minutes after close, but it just seemed like laziness vs a legitimate excuse. I mean, I could see if I walked in at 5:40PM and demanding service, but whatever.
How long does it take to cut your hair? I have very short hair and it's still about 15-20 minutes. That cuts into the next appointment in your scenario and would back them up past closing.
No, I totally get it, I was just hoping there was a hungry worker in there who didn't mind staying late an extra 10 minutes to earn 2 cash tips instead of just 1. Maybe she had a hot date.
You expected her to bump the appointment past closing? I don't think that's going to happen. The alternative is the 5:30 gets in the chair as promised and then at 6 she takes care of you to 6:30 past closing. I don't know what you thought was going to happen.
I had no expectations. I just figured 40 minutes was plenty enough lead time to get a haircut by close in most retail locations. My haircut only takes about 15-20 minutes. Seems like there would have been a creative way to manage to squeeze me in if the interest was making money / serving as many customers as possible.
Sometimes the McDonalds drive thru is backed up at closing, yet I'm never told that it's too late to get a hamburger.![]()
I've worked retail in a full service deli/butcher, and by far my biggest pet peeve were people who came in late and expected us to stay past closing to serve them. The last thing we wanted was to stay late after 8 hours on our feet.
Your situation is nowhere near that same level of entitlement, but I understand their feelings in that situation.
Absolutely! Like I said, I was there 40 minutes before close. I assume that most people get service about 85% of the time in this situation. If I'm a bad guy for going to the Hair Cuttery 40 minutes before close and expecting to be able to get a haircut, then yes, I am a bad guy.
I got the 15% outcome, which is fine. The pet peeve itself is the online appointment. Before that, these places were strictly walk-ins that served the next customer so that the hairdresser would have immediately start cutting my hair, instead of turning away business for the company.
I think I may some new peeves. They itch.This was a bizarre couple days of posts.
there's a cream 4 thatThey itch.
I still can't fathom a scenario where I walk into a fast food restaurant and desire to eat inside there. Depressing. Especially if they want to close. You're just being an assssshat at that point. Nobody is getting tipped on your existence inside. You're just being a jerk.
Go eat in your car or go home.
Are they still doing the sale? I thought they stopped that a couple years ago.Go to Home Depot at lunch for their Kingsford charcoal 2 pack special.
This is an easy in and out for me: grab cart, load 4 of them up, go to self check-out.
BOOOM - in and out in like 5 minutes tops.
EXCEPT, our local home depot up here decides to put check out people at the self checkout for "Assisted Check Out".
WHAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTT????![]()
They do it on every major holiday for grilling:Are they still doing the sale? I thought they stopped that a couple years ago.Go to Home Depot at lunch for their Kingsford charcoal 2 pack special.
This is an easy in and out for me: grab cart, load 4 of them up, go to self check-out.
BOOOM - in and out in like 5 minutes tops.
EXCEPT, our local home depot up here decides to put check out people at the self checkout for "Assisted Check Out".
WHAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTT????![]()
That's what I remember pre-covid. Didn't know they were still doing it.They do it on every major holiday for grilling:Are they still doing the sale? I thought they stopped that a couple years ago.Go to Home Depot at lunch for their Kingsford charcoal 2 pack special.
This is an easy in and out for me: grab cart, load 4 of them up, go to self check-out.
BOOOM - in and out in like 5 minutes tops.
EXCEPT, our local home depot up here decides to put check out people at the self checkout for "Assisted Check Out".
WHAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTT????![]()
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4th of July
Labor Day
Then what's the point of being open till 8? but like SHH said, it's not the owner, it's the staff.You're just being an assssshat at that point.
Then what's the point of being open till 8? but like SHH said, it's not the owner, it's the staff.You're just being an assssshat at that point.
Yeah it's a new thing for us when traveling with babies. Used to be drive thru and do everything I could to keep going on the road quickly, now it's like...I still can't fathom a scenario where I walk into a fast food restaurant and desire to eat inside there. Depressing. Especially if they want to close. You're just being an assssshat at that point. Nobody is getting tipped on your existence inside. You're just being a jerk.
Go eat in your car or go home.
I usually only do on road trips. Sometimes I’ll just eat in the car but if we need a bathroom break we’ll go inside and eat
I’ll also eat inside at a jersey mikes during lunch
I still can't fathom a scenario where I walk into a fast food restaurant and desire to eat inside there. Depressing. Especially if they want to close. You're just being an assssshat at that point. Nobody is getting tipped on your existence inside. You're just being a jerk.
Go eat in your car or go home.
I usually only do on road trips. Sometimes I’ll just eat in the car but if we need a bathroom break we’ll go inside and eat
I’ll also eat inside at a jersey mikes during lunch
We were done and out by 7:45-7:50