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Kiffin fired. Really. No, I'm serious (1 Viewer)
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AnonymousBob
Footballguy
Again?
PatrickT
Footballguy
This, BTW, is being reported by Mortenson. I know some folks don't fully trust him. Schefter reports that significant press conference is coming.
Mookie Blaylock
Footballguy
Good for him. Here's to that worthless franchise floating out into the Pacific.
Osaurus
Footballguy
Was it the 76 yard field goal attempt that put Al over the edge?
dgreen
Footballguy
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
I'm sure Oakland will have no problem filling this vacancy.
/sarcasm
/sarcasm
No wonder they didn't fire him 3 weeks ago. Al had all of his high-priced lawyers looking for a loop whole which would enable him to win the stand-off.I like Kiffin.. his players seemed to like him, he will find another gig.
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
The inevitable became reality Tuesday when Lane Kiffin was fired by Oakland Raiders owner Al Davis without pay via the telephone, according to team sources.
Tom Cable, the team's offensive line coach, was emerging as the leading candidate to replace Kiffin, a source said. Cable was among three coaches interviewed by Davis on Monday night; the others were offensive coordinator Greg Knapp and special consultant Paul Hackett.
Davis is expected to have a press conference later Tuesday to explain his decision to dismiss Kiffin.
Unlike the St. Louis Rams, who fired coach Scott Linehan on Monday, the news was not delivered by Davis in a face-to-face meeting. Kiffin was notified by a team executive Tuesday morning that Davis would call him at 9:15 a.m. PT to relieve the coach of his duties. The call came shortly after that time.
Linehan also was allowed to speak briefly with his players on Monday. Kiffin will not be afforded the same opportunity, a source said.
The news did not blindside Kiffin, who was informed by a team executive that he would be fired after the Raiders 24-23 loss to the Buffalo Bills in week three. Even though Davis didn't act a week ago, as Kiffin was told, many team insiders expected the Oakland owner to fire the coach during this bye week.
The Raiders are 1-3, having blown leads in the fourth quarter to the Bills and the San Diego Chargers. During Kiffin's 20-game tenure, in which the team was 5-15, the Raiders took leads into the fourth quarter of 11 games.
Davis hired Kiffin, who was USC's offensive coordinator at the time, as the NFL's youngest coach at 31 years old in February 2007. Even though many observers questioned the hiring, Kiffin ultimately gained respect around the league for fielding a significantly more competitive team than the Raiders had displayed before he was hired.
Despite being competitive in the majority of games, Kiffin and Davis had a falling out on several fronts, starting when Davis believed Kiffin expressed private interest in the head coaching position at the University of Arkansas during the 2007 season.
However, it was well-documented that their relationship disintegrated when Kiffin attempted to fire defensive coordinator Rob Ryan after the 2007 season. A source said Kiffin suggested to Davis that the owner had reneged on an agreement that the coach would have control over his own staff. Shortly thereafter, Davis sent a letter of resignation for Kiffin to sign, sources said. Kiffin declined.
Kiffin also opposed some of Davis' big free-agent signings such as wide receiver Javon Walker and, to a lesser degree, cornerback DeAngelo Hall, sources said. Kiffin also expressed public frustration that the team was not more aggressive in claiming other team's released players via the waiver process to strengthen the bottom of the roster.
However, a Raiders source said that Davis privately sent a letter to Kiffin after the season's opening-game loss to the Broncos, attempting to "document" that the coach approved of the offseason acquisitions. A source close to Kiffin described that claim as "fiction."
Tom Cable, the team's offensive line coach, was emerging as the leading candidate to replace Kiffin, a source said. Cable was among three coaches interviewed by Davis on Monday night; the others were offensive coordinator Greg Knapp and special consultant Paul Hackett.
Davis is expected to have a press conference later Tuesday to explain his decision to dismiss Kiffin.
Unlike the St. Louis Rams, who fired coach Scott Linehan on Monday, the news was not delivered by Davis in a face-to-face meeting. Kiffin was notified by a team executive Tuesday morning that Davis would call him at 9:15 a.m. PT to relieve the coach of his duties. The call came shortly after that time.
Linehan also was allowed to speak briefly with his players on Monday. Kiffin will not be afforded the same opportunity, a source said.
The news did not blindside Kiffin, who was informed by a team executive that he would be fired after the Raiders 24-23 loss to the Buffalo Bills in week three. Even though Davis didn't act a week ago, as Kiffin was told, many team insiders expected the Oakland owner to fire the coach during this bye week.
The Raiders are 1-3, having blown leads in the fourth quarter to the Bills and the San Diego Chargers. During Kiffin's 20-game tenure, in which the team was 5-15, the Raiders took leads into the fourth quarter of 11 games.
Davis hired Kiffin, who was USC's offensive coordinator at the time, as the NFL's youngest coach at 31 years old in February 2007. Even though many observers questioned the hiring, Kiffin ultimately gained respect around the league for fielding a significantly more competitive team than the Raiders had displayed before he was hired.
Despite being competitive in the majority of games, Kiffin and Davis had a falling out on several fronts, starting when Davis believed Kiffin expressed private interest in the head coaching position at the University of Arkansas during the 2007 season.
However, it was well-documented that their relationship disintegrated when Kiffin attempted to fire defensive coordinator Rob Ryan after the 2007 season. A source said Kiffin suggested to Davis that the owner had reneged on an agreement that the coach would have control over his own staff. Shortly thereafter, Davis sent a letter of resignation for Kiffin to sign, sources said. Kiffin declined.
Kiffin also opposed some of Davis' big free-agent signings such as wide receiver Javon Walker and, to a lesser degree, cornerback DeAngelo Hall, sources said. Kiffin also expressed public frustration that the team was not more aggressive in claiming other team's released players via the waiver process to strengthen the bottom of the roster.
However, a Raiders source said that Davis privately sent a letter to Kiffin after the season's opening-game loss to the Broncos, attempting to "document" that the coach approved of the offseason acquisitions. A source close to Kiffin described that claim as "fiction."
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
The resumes will be rolling in from all the up-and-coming coaches around the NFL.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
Not going to pay him huh? Way to create a second Shanahan.
dgreen
Footballguy
I wonder if he'll be wearing a special sweat suit for this PC.
jaybebo
Footballguy
Would be interesting to see Kiffin head to St. Louis and run the offense there after Haslett gets bumped up to HC
dgreen
Footballguy
Haslett was the DC. They have Al Saunders as their OC.
NeverEnough
Footballguy
WHat insubordination what listed?
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
No, but he will have on his bedazzled cheaters with matching granny chain.
buck naked
Footballguy
This ought to be a good press conference. Davis has been trying to create "insubordination" as an excuse not to pay Kiffin his contractual $. Here comes a boatload of lies, exaggerations and who-knows-what-else.
Wilbur Wood
Footballguy
No but Tom Cable will dressing Al in a special edition Silver/Black Depends
dgreen
Footballguy
"I told Mr. Kiffin to run X Wide Z Slant Tango on the first play and he ran Y Zoom Roger Slash. He's clearly insubordinate"
GregR_2
Footballguy
Not to mention the lawsuit from Kiffin for breach of contract and/or wrongful termination in order to get paid what his contract called for.
the rover
Footballguy
Davis must actually enjoy litigation.
IM666
Footballguy
Failure to Grovel.
skillz
Footballguy
Kiffin should just screw with Al and should also sue him for emotional distress. Al hung him out to dry for the past few months so that had to take a toll on Kiffin's emotional state. That's what I would claim if I were him -- get back wages and emotional distress damages from Al for being such a pr!ck.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Wonder what Kiffin's chances are of winning the inevitable court battle over his pay?
skillz
Footballguy
Hard to say since we don't know what Kiffin's contract says and what specific acts of insubordination he did to breach his contract. I'm sure that's why it took Al the past three weeks to fire him. He needed to come up with some "examples" of his insubordination before canning him. Who knows what constituted the insubordination -- should be an interesting press conference to get more specifics. IMO that decision to not pay Kiffin is just Al trying to negotiate an out of court settlement with Kiffin so that he doesn't have to pay out the entire contract.
Wilbur Wood
Footballguy
I think that this matter (firing him without pay) should be addressed by Roger Godell. Godell has been quick to get on his holy pulpit and suspend misbehaving players or "violent hits", however Al Davis is a bigger embarrassment to the NFL than any of this stuff.
Rozelle had the stones to take on Davis. Godell should do the same and "mandate" the Raiders to pay the balance of the contract and put the onus on Davis to prove in court that he should be left on the hook (instead of the other way around).
Rozelle had the stones to take on Davis. Godell should do the same and "mandate" the Raiders to pay the balance of the contract and put the onus on Davis to prove in court that he should be left on the hook (instead of the other way around).
tombonneau
Footballguy
Same as Shanahan's probably ...
Banger
Footballguy
He did the same thing to Shanny a couple decades ago and I don't think he's been paid yet...he's beyond a joke.
Sweet Love
IBL Representative
The funny thing is, Kiffin's contract is peanuts compared to what he paid Javon Walker. If anything, he should be suing Javon for insubordination...
BusterTBronco
Footballguy
Did Shanahan ever press this in court? I think Kiffin would stand a good chance of prevailing in a court of law.
TommyGilmore
Footballguy
Shanahan got screwed. Davis donated (a portion of) the disputed amount to charity and called it even. The NFL said "case closed".
Walker already tried to give the money back and Davis talked him into keeping it...
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
didn't read thread, Jim make that Tom Cable is new coach
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B-Deep
Footballguy
is this correct?
PatrickT
Footballguy
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