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I am still trying to figure out why Rosenbaum chased anyone if the three of them have set up the trap to shoot and kill Rittenhouse?That whole word salad post is nonsense. "Armed by extension"
That whole word salad post is nonsense. "Armed by extension"
Sure. But that’s not the point I was or am making (much like here I’m not making the point about whether a 17 should be doing this). You’re arguing home town not home. I think they are vastly different. You yourself said a few days back that if there was a riot in your town you would be standing on your porch defending your home. That I completely agree with, that’s defending your home. It’s completely different leaving your home to go defend your home town. They are not the same. That was and is my point. Just like I said I don’t believe he went there to commit murder. Though I do believe he went there looking for (hoping for) trouble. They are 2 very different things.
I agree with this entire post. It looked forced and staged to me, but to think a 17yr old kid wouldn’t be or isn’t traumatized by killing 2 people while being attacked at a riot is lunacy. Of course he is. To suggest otherwise is to suggest he’s a sociopath like Ted Bundy or something. There is no evidence that’s the case.
Thanks. I just assumed that the provocation instruction would come in and that the jury would just weigh the evidence. Was the argument that there wasn't any evidence at all of provocation, so the instruction would be inappropriate?
I forget. Which state is it that has meat raffles? Or is it both?
Maybe from your view in Oregon. From up close... less so.
Signed,
A dedicated liberal Minnesotan.
Have you appeared in front of this judge? He comes off as smart and very well versed in the law, but nutty as a fruitcake.
No? See I do. That's the job of EMT and the Police. Blurring that line leads to things like this. When we have mechanisms like insurance in place to protect property and investment, I see ZERO reason to allow average Joes be part of the equation.Nope.Okay.Thanks!
Next question.
Do you have an issue with "good samaritans" trying to provide medical care or put out fires in these situations?
With the assumption of their being a lack of official resources (FD, Paramedics)
Right...two sides of the delusion coin trying to avoid acknowledging the similarities. Get all those spouting this stuff out of this thread (maybe 10 people total from both those groups? despite the "many" and "most" nonsense that continues to be bantered about) and it becomes much more readable and informative.
I have not ever had a case with Schroeder and I don't think he's been in the civil rotation in Kenosha county for a long time. I agree he's very sharp, but he's too folksy and gets in trouble with his meandering and sometimes inappropriate soliloquys from the bench. He's the longest-serving judge in the state, has presided over more murder trials than all the other lawyers in the case combined and seems to be able to cite chapter and verse from statue and caselaw from memory on a wide variety of issues. There was a time every defense lawyer in the county would substitute him immediately because he was considered to be so tough on criminal defendants, but I think he's mellowed a bit.
I'm just getting up to speed on all the court happenings. After skimming the last 15 pages or so it's pretty easy to see where the lines are drawn in this forum. The usual subjects are on each side of the debate where racism, guns and emotion all come to play.
In a perfect world people protest whatever it is they have an issue with, they go home. We have no advantageous jackasses who start looting, no "helpers" coming in to pretend they are cops and no need for people to help out if they see someone messed up.
I do also, but after two weeks of reading about the trial in here and seeing a bit last week I still have no clue what that should be. Assuming that the jurors haven't seen much more than what I have gathered then I think from a legal perspective this lack of clarity as to what happened beyond the various video perspectives and testimony has given us means acquittal, but from a is there any justice in this world perspective I still don't know what should be coming his way in the perfect world.
I watched all of the pre-trial hearings and most of the prosecution's case. I think the prosecution was weak on their three pre-trial motions, and seemed unprepared at that hearing. Maybe that's just because they were focused on preparing their case in chief, but they let the defense argue issues that weren't relevant to the motions, and the judge went there with them, without the prosecution even attempting to put the argument back on track.
Trying to figure out where racism comes into play in this case.
0 has to do with what we were talking about. We were talking about the politicians having police stand down = political, for safety, or what ratio of each.
You must have missed this part of the story:White kid shoots 3 white men.
Bull####. Every person involved in this case was white. Injecting race and racism into this is absurd.
It doesn't. The MSM have lost their minds. Don Lemon said that the judge is probably racist and therefore taking it easy on Rittenhouse.
