Mike Tyson Vs Jake Paul? (1 Viewer)

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But after one round can Mike really win? The fix is only in if Paul is done with his boxing old guys shtick and wants to let the greatest ever win.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

With eight two-minute rounds, I'd expect Tyson by decision to be even longer odds than Tyson in 60 seconds.

Unless I am mistaken, the 2 minute rounds were negotiated by Tyson's side because they knew the normal 3 minute rounds would be beyond his ability to last.

So while a decision is still really unlikely if it is a legit fight, I think the 2 minute rounds make it more likely than less.

Eight rounds is also a negotiated / approved departure but it's still got to be hard on the old man to keep moving and keep those gloves up after the first couple rounds.

 

[IC FBGCav]

But I am all in since I have Netflix and don't really care who wins this chicken fight.

 

[eoMMan]

Anyone feel this fight could be rigged aka set up? Are they really going to go hard against one another?

 

[Todem]

Anyone feel this fight could be rigged aka set up? Are they really going to go hard against one another?

Yeah…..it’s something that can easily happen.

 

[culdeus]

Anyone feel this fight could be rigged aka set up? Are they really going to go hard against one another?

Easy thing is like, go three rounds hard and then let it go the distance

 

[offdee]

What's everyone's guesstimate on the actual time the Paul v. Tyson fight will start....with the main card starting at 8pm ET (5pm PT for me) ?

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• Main Card, 8 p.m. ET at AT&T Stadium in Arlington, TX

It's the fight we've been waiting for. Mike Tyson vs. Jake Paul will be available globally on Netflix, via any and all Netflix plans.

Full Tyson vs. Paul card​

• Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson, heavyweight bout
• Katie Taylor (c) vs. Amanda Serrano, undisputed lightweight title bout
• Mario Barrios (c) vs. Abel Ramos, WBC welterweight title bout
• Shadasia Green vs. Melinda Watpool, vacant WBO super middleweight title bout
• Lucas Bahdi vs. Armando Casamonica, lightweight bout
• Bruce Carrington vs. Dana Coolwell, featherweight bout
• Neeraj Goyat vs. Whindersson Nunes, middleweight bout

I heard they expected the fight to start around 11pm ET, but I don't know for sure

Sounds about right. Would seem silly for them to go into midnight ET. 11pm ET is 8pm my time. Perfect.

That woman’s fight right before Paul v Tyson should be entertaining. That will likely start around 7pm PT

 

[Ted Stickles]

I'm a bit shuked to be in the super minority here as like most of you, I've been rooting for Jake Paul to get a thorough, embarrassing bully beat-down.

I was all-in on Tyrone Woodley and Ben Askrin thinking there was no way a high-level UFC guy could lose to a YouTuber. Jake easily KO'd both of them.

I was 200% on board Nate 209 Diaz with his actual boxing background to toy with and piece up Jake. That one saddened me.

Jake stepped up the competition in his next fight versus the Fury half brother and looked way better than I expected.

At opening I auto assumed Tyson would be an easy favorite and was shocked to see Paul heavily favored.

Jake is always significantly heavier and looks to be juiced to the gills. He also has been taking this boxing career 10x more serious than most of us take our actual jobs, myself included.

Jake Paul is very likely to beat Iron Mike which saddens me.

 

[Todem]

I'm a bit shuked to be in the super minority here as like most of you, I've been rooting for Jake Paul to get a thorough, embarrassing bully beat-down.

I was all-in on Tyrone Woodley and Ben Askrin thinking there was no way a high-level UFC guy could lose to a YouTuber. Jake easily KO'd both of them.

I was 200% on board Nate 209 Diaz with his actual boxing background to toy with and piece up Jake. That one saddened me.

Jake stepped up the competition in his next fight versus the Fury half brother and looked way better than I expected.

At opening I auto assumed Tyson would be an easy favorite and was shocked to see Paul heavily favored.

Jake is always significantly heavier and looks to be juiced to the gills. He also has been taking this boxing career 10x more serious than most of us take our actual jobs, myself included.

Jake Paul is very likely to beat Iron Mike which saddens me.

Tyson is 58.

I mean….we gotta be real.

 

[NewlyRetired]

He also has been taking this boxing career 10x more serious than most of us take our actual jobs, myself included.

I think this is something many who only think of him as a social media influencer don't get. Sometimes I think people think of him as one of those celebrity boxers.

It is almost impossible to put more into one endeavor than he has put over these past ~6 years into boxing. He has just enough natural athletic ability (although no where near what his brother Logan has) and that combined with the juicing and non stop working out and best training money can buy, has made himself into what one might consider a top notch amateur boxer/lower level professional boxer.

 

[NewlyRetired]

I was all-in on Tyrone Woodley and Ben Askrin thinking there was no way a high-level UFC guy could lose to a YouTuber. Jake easily KO'd both of them.

It is worth noting that these guys were once high level MMA fighters but both were retired by the time they boxed Paul, and neither of them were particularly good strikers in MMA.

Both Askren's and Woodley's back ground is in wrestling, an incredible MMA skill that has no translation to a pure boxing match.

I too hoped Diaz might be able to box with him, since Nate has some striking skill in his MMA skill set, but Nate was 38 at the time of the boxing match and the size difference was striking, with Paul just being so much naturally bigger. Once Paul re-hydrated he looked two weight classes bigger.

 

[Ted Stickles]

Tyson is 58.

I mean….we gotta be real.

The emergency health scare which caused the fight postponement... I'm with ya!

 

[Ted Stickles]

He also has been taking this boxing career 10x more serious than most of us take our actual jobs, myself included.

I think this is something many who only think of him as a social media influencer don't get. Sometimes I think people think of him as one of those celebrity boxers.

It is almost impossible to put more into one endeavor than he has put over these past ~6 years into boxing. He has just enough natural athletic ability (although no where near what his brother Logan has) and that combined with the juicing and non stop working out and best training money can buy, has made himself into what one might consider a top notch amateur boxer/lower level professional boxer.

Agreed 100%. And I want to/am a hater.

 

[NewlyRetired]

I have been trying to come up with a comp from Tyson’s day.

The best I can think of is Peter McNeeley. Peter trained about ten minutes from where I live so I was familiar with him. Peter was more of a brawler than Paul but he had a ton more experienece than Paul. I think Peter was something like 35-1 when he got destroyed by Tyson.

I was listening to local sports radio today and they said they were going to reach out to Peter to see if he would come on during their Friday show to talk about the fight.

 

[hooter311]

I'm a bit shuked to be in the super minority here as like most of you, I've been rooting for Jake Paul to get a thorough, embarrassing bully beat-down.

I was all-in on Tyrone Woodley and Ben Askrin thinking there was no way a high-level UFC guy could lose to a YouTuber. Jake easily KO'd both of them.

I was 200% on board Nate 209 Diaz with his actual boxing background to toy with and piece up Jake. That one saddened me.

Jake stepped up the competition in his next fight versus the Fury half brother and looked way better than I expected.

At opening I auto assumed Tyson would be an easy favorite and was shocked to see Paul heavily favored.

Jake is always significantly heavier and looks to be juiced to the gills. He also has been taking this boxing career 10x more serious than most of us take our actual jobs, myself included.

Jake Paul is very likely to beat Iron Mike which saddens me.

Sadly, I agree with you and went down this same road reaching that reasoning.

 

[Ted Stickles]

I was all-in on Tyrone Woodley and Ben Askrin thinking there was no way a high-level UFC guy could lose to a YouTuber. Jake easily KO'd both of them.

It is worth noting that these guys were once high level MMA fighters but both were retired by the time they boxed Paul, and neither of them were particularly good strikers in MMA.

Both Askren's and Woodley's back ground is in wrestling, an incredible MMA skill that has no translation to a pure boxing match.

I too hoped Diaz might be able to box with him, since Nate has some striking skill in his MMA skill set, but Nate was 38 at the time of the boxing match and the size difference was striking, with Paul just being so much naturally bigger. Once Paul re-hydrated he looked two weight classes bigger.

The Paul Bros playbook 101:

Strategically find someone with big name recognition that the public thinks would be a solid favorite.

Hype, market and buzz.

Sell PPV views and count the millions.

Back the Brinks truck up... win or lose, these guys make more in one Jake Paul boxing match than they made in their professional fighting careers.

Seek out a bigger name.

Connor McGregor is next.

 

[Ted Stickles]

I have been trying to come up with a comp from Tyson’s day.

The best I can think of is Peter McNeeley. Peter trained about ten minutes from where I live so I was familiar with him. Peter was more of a brawler than Paul but he had a ton more experienece than Paul. I think Peter was something like 35-1 when he got destroyed by Tyson.

I was listening to local sports radio today and they said they were going to reach out to Peter to see if he would come on during their Friday show to talk about the fight.

I'll never forget his swag at his press conference.

"I'm Hurricane Peter McNeeley from Medfield Mass. Saturday night watch me kick Tyson's ***."

 

[Cowboysfan8]

What's everyone's guesstimate on the actual time the Paul v. Tyson fight will start....with the main card starting at 8pm ET (5pm PT for me) ?

I was thinking of this the other day. Sometime around 1130 est would be my guess. I’ll have to watch the highlights saturday morning

 

[Beef Ravioli Part 2]

As much as I’m hoping for Tyson to destroy Paul (I prefer a crippling body shot that sends Paul to the mat!) I don’t think that is what will happen. Hope Tyson at least lands a couple of shots that make paul reconsider his choices.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Evander Holyfield did something similar. At 58 he had a fight against retired MMA fighter Vitor Belfort, who was 44 at the time. Evander did not make it out of the first round.

Tyson does look in much better shape than Evander did though.

 

[Timmay]

As much as I’m hoping for Tyson to destroy Paul (I prefer a crippling body shot that sends Paul to the mat!) I don’t think that is what will happen. Hope Tyson at least lands a couple of shots that make paul reconsider his choices.

I agree with this. I want Tyson to show some flashes of Iron Mike, but at 58 I just don't see him keeping up with Paul. I do think we will see at least 4 rounds.

 

[CGRdrJoe]

I'm a bit shuked to be in the super minority here as like most of you, I've been rooting for Jake Paul to get a thorough, embarrassing bully beat-down.

I was all-in on Tyrone Woodley and Ben Askrin thinking there was no way a high-level UFC guy could lose to a YouTuber. Jake easily KO'd both of them.

I was 200% on board Nate 209 Diaz with his actual boxing background to toy with and piece up Jake. That one saddened me.

Jake stepped up the competition in his next fight versus the Fury half brother and looked way better than I expected.

At opening I auto assumed Tyson would be an easy favorite and was shocked to see Paul heavily favored.

Jake is always significantly heavier and looks to be juiced to the gills. He also has been taking this boxing career 10x more serious than most of us take our actual jobs, myself included.

Jake Paul is very likely to beat Iron Mike which saddens me.

This is how i look at it, Jake took on 3 mma guys that were older, lighter and non boxers to start his shtick.

that’s like me taking on 3 60 year old former jockeys in basketball because i now want to prove i can make the nba. Then I go up against someone that played juco ball and lose so I say screw this I’m going to go after a retired bball legend and get my payday.

That’s the reason I think Tyson stands a real chance, there is a large part of boxing that is IQ from experience fighting true dogs that jake doesn’t have yet. I’m good friends with a hall of fame boxer named andy nance and he truly thinks Tyson has enough power to hurt jake even with the 10 oz gloves. Andy does have severe cte though so I take his info with a grain of salt

 

[NewlyRetired]

I’m good friends with a hall of fame boxer named andy nance and he truly thinks Tyson has enough power to hurt jake even with the 10 oz gloves.

Texas did not sanction the 10oz gloves. They were too afraid of the age difference so for the fighters safety they only approved 14 oz gloves.

 

[Softballguy]

Evander Holyfield did something similar. At 58 he had a fight against retired MMA fighter Vitor Belfort, who was 44 at the time. Evander did not make it out of the first round.

Tyson does look in much better shape than Evander did though.

I completely forgot about that match. Sadly, that's probably the closest comparison to Paul/Tyson. A 58 year old former great vs. a younger fighter who is bigger and on lots of juice. Holyfield looked like an old, old man. He even fell down after he missed a punch. As soon as Belfort started throwing punches it was very difficult to watch.

I've loved Tyson forever, and like most of you, want nothing more than to see Iron Mike knock Paul out... but after watching the Holyfield/Belfort fight again, I'm now leaning toward this being a painful, difficult to watch, showing by the champ.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

One of my favorite podcasts is doing a two-part series on Tyson. Great first episode released yesterday --> https://open.spotify.com/episode/2qiBwFbWQJ4FoXmYkDwpIl?si=8f3bf6e3433e437a

The year is 1977. An 11-year-old Mike Tyson is high on acid, terrorising the people of Brooklyn with a world war one bayonet.

Little did they know, this wild-eyed urchin is destined to become the youngest heavyweight champion in history.

He robbed houses, got his prison counsellor pregnant, and made Brad Pitt beg for his life.

This is the story of the scariest man on the planet…

 

[zoonation]

If Tyson still has knockout power this will be a short fight. jake has never fought a real boxer and leaves himself exposed all the time.

I can buy that. Tyson always has a haymakers chance. Because he throws bombs on the inside.

If Paul tries to fight inside very early on he is nuts. Because Tyson will throw haymaker bombs early and try to end it quickly.

With it being only 2 minute rounds this is really in reality a 5 round fight.

3-1 underdog. I may throw $50 on Iron Mike for ****s and giggles and to have some action on this…..most likely farcical exhibition.

i threw $50 on Mike.

 

[TennesseeJed]

It's an exhibition. Its primary purpose is to generate money.

Its secondary purpose is to generate a re-match, to generate more money.

I would be surprised if the outcome was not already known.

In a non-fixed world, Paul wins, relatively easily - just by staying away and wearing Tyson down. But, if Paul wins this fight - it's hard to sell a re-match, against an even older Tyson. So, the most likely outcome is Tyson "wins" - probably a knock out. And then Paul crushes him in the re-match.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

It's an exhibition. Its primary purpose is to generate money.

Its secondary purpose is to generate a re-match, to generate more money.

I would be surprised if the outcome was not already known.

In a non-fixed world, Paul wins, relatively easily - just by staying away and wearing Tyson down. But, if Paul wins this fight - it's hard to sell a re-match, against an even older Tyson. So, the most likely outcome is Tyson "wins" - probably a knock out. And then Paul crushes him in the re-match.

This makes the most sense from a money standpoint. A rematch vs a then 60 year old who lost the first match doesn't make much sense. Maybe throw in a controversial headbutt or something to fuel the flames for the younger guy to get the rematch.

 

[Softballguy]

It's an exhibition. Its primary purpose is to generate money.

Its secondary purpose is to generate a re-match, to generate more money.

I would be surprised if the outcome was not already known.

In a non-fixed world, Paul wins, relatively easily - just by staying away and wearing Tyson down. But, if Paul wins this fight - it's hard to sell a re-match, against an even older Tyson. So, the most likely outcome is Tyson "wins" - probably a knock out. And then Paul crushes him in the re-match.

If I didn't watch the other Paul fights I might agree, but there was nothing in any of those matches that indicated the fighters weren't going 100%. Tyson is a different draw than the rest of them, but I still don't see it going down that way.

 

[Wingnut]

This fight is sanctioned, so I don't see it being an exhibition.

They go at it for real, hopefully ending with Paul going to sleep.

 

[NewlyRetired]

If I didn't watch the other Paul fights I might agree, but there was nothing in any of those matches that indicated the fighters were going 100%.

I disagree entirely.

I have seen every single Paul fight and they all looked legit to me. I thought every one was going 100%. The caliber of the fighters certainly could be questioned since almost none of them were actual boxers but I thought the fighters were all trying their hardest.

Some of those knock outs were absolutely brutal and you would not see that in a match where the fighters were not going 100% IMO.

 

[Payne]

Still shocked so many of you think Paul wins this easily.

 

[Todem]

Still shocked so many of you think Paul wins this easily.

The last time Tyson fought a real competitive sanctioned fight was 2005 and he was TKO’d in the 6th round by Kevin McBride.

2005

 

[NewlyRetired]

Everyone seems to agree that the best chance for a Tyson win will be a first or second round knock out. The old cliche is that power is the last to go should work in Tyson’s favor.

Ironically, the gloves that were chosen by the state athletic commission to protect Tyson may actually work against him here in the hopes for a knock out.

 

[3C's]

Hoping for an ear bite in this one.

 

[NewlyRetired]

I watched the press conference. It was as much of a train wreck as one would expect for such a match.

In my eyes Paul is not a great heel, but people really eat up his antics and it is impossible to ignore the financial success of these type of matches. He runs the wrestling gimmick of creating as much heat as possible so that people tune in hoping he will lose.

The fact that this ULTRA marginal professional boxing match is getting more attention than almost any other professional combat sports event this year is amazing.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Update on ticket sales

Paul vs Tyson tickets continue to fall amid scramble to fill seats - World Boxing News

Paul vs Tyson tickets continue to fall in price as attempts to fill the arena go into overdrive ahead of Friday's fight.

www.worldboxingnews.net

 

[3C's]

I watched the press conference. It was as much of a train wreck as one would expect for such a match.

In my eyes Paul is not a great heel, but people really eat up his antics and it is impossible to ignore the financial success of these type of matches. He runs the wrestling gimmick of creating as much heat as possible so that people tune in hoping he will lose.

The fact that this ULTRA marginal professional boxing match is getting more attention than almost any other professional combat sports event this year is amazing.

Heard it being billed as the "fight of the century" on an ad on a sports radio show from a bar carrying the fight.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Still shocked so many of you think Paul wins this easily.

I've never seen Jake Paul fight and don't know much at all about him but can't ignore live betting odds that imply 70% likelihood he wins this fight. I'm not a big fight fan but I'll probably watch this on Friday night. I expect to be thoroughly bored and unimpressed, if not saddened a bit by it.

 

[Softballguy]

If I didn't watch the other Paul fights I might agree, but there was nothing in any of those matches that indicated the fighters were going 100%.

I disagree entirely.

I have seen every single Paul fight and they all looked legit to me. I thought every one was going 100%. The caliber of the fighters certainly could be questioned since almost none of them were actual boxers but I thought the fighters were all trying their hardest.

Some of those knock outs were absolutely brutal and you would not see that in a match where the fighters were not going 100% IMO.

Bah, typo... I meant to say "indicated that the fighters WEREN'T going 100%." If you read the post I was quoting (saying it will be a work), I was disagreeing, arguing against this being a work. Paul hasn't swam in those waters.

 

[offdee]

Hoping for an ear bite in this one.

At the latest press conference Paul wore a diamond encrusted upper ear guard on the same ear and location Holyfield got bit.

 

[NewlyRetired]

For those with some FOMO of the train wreck that was the press conference, this was one of the more intelligent parts

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[Sand]

Here are some interesting quotes from an article I read

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From 2005:
"I do not have the guts to be in this sport anymore," Tyson said after that fight. "I don't want to disrespect the sport that I love. My heart is not into this anymore. I'm sorry for the fans who paid for this."

From just before the cancelled fight
"I had a big ulcer, two-and-a-half inches, and it was bleeding," Tyson said. "All my friends were calling me like I was dying. I asked the doctor if I was going to die, and she didn't say 'No.' ... You wouldn't believe what I endured from my ulcer. I lost 26 pounds."

"That was the moment they [MVP] should have realized that this was actually a bad idea," said Matchroom Boxing CEO Eddie Hearn, one of the sport's top promoters.

Other comments:
Hearn will be ringside to support his champion, Taylor, in the co-main event. However, Hearn told BBC Sport last month he will leave his seat before the main event because he doesn't want to support a bout with a fighter Tyson's age.

"The reality is that 20 years ago when Mike Tyson retired from the sport he was shot, completely finished," said Hearn, who sued Paul for defamation in 2022 after the fighter accused him of bribing a boxing judge. "It was actually sad to watch then, 20 years ago."

"...You only need to speak to him and look at him to know this guy should not be in a ring again. ... If I was Jake Paul, I'd just feel a little bit embarrassed to be honest with you. ... This is dangerous, irresponsible and, in my opinion, disrespectful to the sport of boxing."

Oh, screw this Hearn guy, whoever he is. Boxing is dying and the masses are excited about this. Boxing is spectacle beyond anything else and this the pinnacle of spectacle.

I hope he stays in his seat and Paul lands on him when he's blasted over the ropes.

 

[Joe Schmo]

We need the laughing emoji!!!!

 

[CGRdrJoe]

I watched the press conference. It was as much of a train wreck as one would expect for such a match.

In my eyes Paul is not a great heel, but people really eat up his antics and it is impossible to ignore the financial success of these type of matches. He runs the wrestling gimmick of creating as much heat as possible so that people tune in hoping he will lose.

The fact that this ULTRA marginal professional boxing match is getting more attention than almost any other professional combat sports event this year is amazing.

more attention than UFC 300, 308 and saturday's 309 or even the Fury vs. Usyk? I guess in the world of tik tok/youtube maybe but those were all big events with lots of promotion leading up. Texas is cool and all but Madison Square Garden Saturday night is going to be rocking

 

[ILUVBEER99]

This fight is sanctioned, so I don't see it being an exhibition.

They go at it for real, hopefully ending with Paul going to sleep.

The sanctioned part makes me more confident it will be "real". There will be a lot of legal betting on this fight. As far as I know if they have some prearranged agreement it's highly illegal and they would get in legal trouble if found out. Fixing legitimate sporting events, which a sanctioned fight is, is a big no-no.

That said, I do think Paul might not try to knock him out. He can win in dominant fashion but carry Tyson along without going for the kill.

I have a weird feeling if it gets to round 5/6 and Tyson is clearly getting beat his corner throws in the towel.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

I watched the press conference. It was as much of a train wreck as one would expect for such a match.

In my eyes Paul is not a great heel, but people really eat up his antics and it is impossible to ignore the financial success of these type of matches. He runs the wrestling gimmick of creating as much heat as possible so that people tune in hoping he will lose.

The fact that this ULTRA marginal professional boxing match is getting more attention than almost any other professional combat sports event this year is amazing.

more attention than UFC 300, 308 and saturday's 309 or even the Fury vs. Usyk? I guess in the world of tik tok/youtube maybe but those were all big events with lots of promotion leading up. Texas is cool and all but Madison Square Garden Saturday night is going to be rocking

One big difference for more casual fans is that most of us are not paying anything extra to watch Tyson-Paul. I was aware of Fury v Usyk and kind of followed the fight from twitter reports but there's no way I was going to pay $70 or $80 or whatever it was to watch it live. I wouldn't be watching Tyson-Paul if I didn't already have Netflix and honestly still might not watch if something more interesting comes up in my boring life. I can't remember the last time a big fight actually delivered in terms of entertainment value.

 

[NewlyRetired]

I watched the press conference. It was as much of a train wreck as one would expect for such a match.

In my eyes Paul is not a great heel, but people really eat up his antics and it is impossible to ignore the financial success of these type of matches. He runs the wrestling gimmick of creating as much heat as possible so that people tune in hoping he will lose.

The fact that this ULTRA marginal professional boxing match is getting more attention than almost any other professional combat sports event this year is amazing.

more attention than UFC 300, 308 and saturday's 309 or even the Fury vs. Usyk? I guess in the world of tik tok/youtube maybe but those were all big events with lots of promotion leading up. Texas is cool and all but Madison Square Garden Saturday night is going to be rocking

Yes and it is not even close imo.

Combat sports fans, like you and myself, obviously care more about the real fights but combat sports, outside of maybe a mega fight that occurs once every few years, do not cross over into mainstream sports fans interest much at all.

The regular sports fan is actually paying some attention to this train wreck. Look at the activity of this thread compared to the MMA or boxing threads as evidence.

The hugely popular sports radio here in my area never talks about combat sports and even they have given full segments to this fight.

Netflix having it free for any casual to watch also increases the attention and eyeballs that a typical PPV event can’t.

 

[Blick]

I don't want to see Tyson get beat. Too much respect for what he was in the ring. I don't think I can watch it.

 

[Todem]

Watching it with two of my closest friends tomorrow night. My buddy built a home theater room in his garage. He converted it with central AC to boot into a 100 inch screen with full on Dolby Atmos surround, movie seating...the works. He did it all himself too.

Should be fun.....for about 5 minutes. LOL.

I hope we get a real fight......but I doubt it.