Yup. 60 year old men should not be engaging in this type of sport. He's could easily tear something with the strain he's putting on his ligaments and tendons.I have no idea about Jake Paul’s fighting skills but a lot of people are acting like this is the Mike Tyson of their youths when the guy is nearly 60. I hope Tyson wins but it’s also possible he gets seriously hurt assuming this is full go.
If he gets injured, sure, all bets are off.Yup. 60 year old men should not be engaging in this type of sport. He's could easily tear something with the strain he's putting on his ligaments and tendons.I have no idea about Jake Paul’s fighting skills but a lot of people are acting like this is the Mike Tyson of their youths when the guy is nearly 60. I hope Tyson wins but it’s also possible he gets seriously hurt assuming this is full go.
And you're comparing 58 year old Mike Tyson to a regular Joe at 58. It's Mike Tyson.I have no idea about Jake Paul’s fighting skills but a lot of people are acting like this is the Mike Tyson of their youths when the guy is nearly 60. I hope Tyson wins but it’s also possible he gets seriously hurt assuming this is full go.
In a street fight….yeah of course not.And you're comparing 58 year old Mike Tyson to a regular Joe at 58. It's Mike Tyson.I have no idea about Jake Paul’s fighting skills but a lot of people are acting like this is the Mike Tyson of their youths when the guy is nearly 60. I hope Tyson wins but it’s also possible he gets seriously hurt assuming this is full go.
Mike Tyson at 58 is still somebody I wouldn't mess with. Maybe you would.
That’s my guess too. Will this ultimately be staged?So what’s everyone’s theory on why Netflix isn’t charging anything to existing subscribers to watch this? Why not at least charge the price of renting a movie ($5)? They’d make boatloads.
My guess the marketing strategy is to get as many eyes on it as possible and have it end up being a great fight (mostly staged). And then when they rematch charge higher.
Same. I have Netflix and prolly won't watch it live. I'll catch the highlightsI love combat sports and follow them religiously. I have even seen every single Jake Paul fight.
But I can't for the life of me give any sort of guess on this fight because I still don't fully understand if it is a work or a shoot or something in between (I am leaning towards this being in between).
Also this is a proof of concept for them. Probably want to gauge how many new eyeballs it attracts and how many current subs tune in. Next big PPV fight they will probably charge something to current subscribers so they can see the impact.That’s my guess too. Will this ultimately be staged?So what’s everyone’s theory on why Netflix isn’t charging anything to existing subscribers to watch this? Why not at least charge the price of renting a movie ($5)? They’d make boatloads.
My guess the marketing strategy is to get as many eyes on it as possible and have it end up being a great fight (mostly staged). And then when they rematch charge higher.
One thing we know for sure is that Tyson will give full effort. Dude has money. He is gonna try and win. When Tyson lost to Buster back in 1990 I actually cried. Tyson was everything I wanted in a champion. Such a sad day. That was the day that allowed the UFC to surpass my interest in boxing a few years later. 1990? Crazy. I don't have a problem with Jake Paul. Dude made his brand. Even at 57, Tyson is gonna give him problems. Hopefully.
I have been trying to come up with a comp from Tyson’s day.
Tyson in his prime turns this dude into Dinty Moore beef stew in under 60 seconds.
I have been trying to come up with a comp from Tyson’s day.
Tyson in his prime turns this dude into Dinty Moore beef stew in under 60 seconds.
The best I can think of is Peter McNeeley. Peter trained about ten minutes from where I live so I was familiar with him. Peter was more of a brawler than Paul but he had a ton more experienece than Paul. I think Peter was something like 35-1 when he got destroyed by Tyson.
But don ‘t let Peter’s record fool you. It was even worse back in the 80/90’s where tomato cans were used to beef up many boxers records in the hope for that one shot.
Yeah he was unbelievable. But he had a few weaknesses that were exploited by great boxers like Holyfield and Lennox Lewis.I have been trying to come up with a comp from Tyson’s day.
Tyson in his prime turns this dude into Dinty Moore beef stew in under 60 seconds.
The best I can think of is Peter McNeeley. Peter trained about ten minutes from where I live so I was familiar with him. Peter was more of a brawler than Paul but he had a ton more experienece than Paul. I think Peter was something like 35-1 when he got destroyed by Tyson.
But don ‘t let Peter’s record fool you. It was even worse back in the 80/90’s where tomato cans were used to beef up many boxers records in the hope for that one shot.
I definitely see the likeness and comp, nice work. Tyson from about maybe Spring of 85 to when he fought Berbick in late 86 was fighting dudes like every 3 weeks. Their quality obviously varied from the useless (Marvis Frazier) to actually pretty good (Bonecrusher Smith). Whomever he fought in that 18 months to 2 years, he was utterly terrifying. Never seen a heavyweight before with his combination of power, head movement and frightening hand speed.
Yeah he was unbelievable. But he had a few weaknesses that were exploited by great boxers like Holyfield and Lennox Lewis.I have been trying to come up with a comp from Tyson’s day.
Tyson in his prime turns this dude into Dinty Moore beef stew in under 60 seconds.
The best I can think of is Peter McNeeley. Peter trained about ten minutes from where I live so I was familiar with him. Peter was more of a brawler than Paul but he had a ton more experienece than Paul. I think Peter was something like 35-1 when he got destroyed by Tyson.
But don ‘t let Peter’s record fool you. It was even worse back in the 80/90’s where tomato cans were used to beef up many boxers records in the hope for that one shot.
I definitely see the likeness and comp, nice work. Tyson from about maybe Spring of 85 to when he fought Berbick in late 86 was fighting dudes like every 3 weeks. Their quality obviously varied from the useless (Marvis Frazier) to actually pretty good (Bonecrusher Smith). Whomever he fought in that 18 months to 2 years, he was utterly terrifying. Never seen a heavyweight before with his combination of power, head movement and frightening hand speed.
Even Tyson in his absolute prime would have had some problems with these two guys. But it would have been great to watch them in their primes vs each other.
Lewis had a glass jaw but his strength, and size and jack hammer of a jab gave Tyson tons of issues.
I watched the Buster Douglas fight live on HBO and by the third round I was calling my uncle (who got me into boxing heavily as a kid) telling him…..Tyson is going to lose this fight.
A clear headed Tyson a year earlier would have destroyed Douglas. But James came into this fight in the best shape of his entire career and executed his fight to perfection.
Tyson on the other hand was a mess mentally, using coke, clearly did not train, and had an all new corner who were clueless and had no ****ing ice in his corner.
It was a fiasco.
So I analyzed the long count many many times. Douglas was more than able to get up….fighters are taught to hear the count and Douglas picked up the refs count perfectly. It was a flash knockdown. He got stunned but he was highly coherent.Yeah he was unbelievable. But he had a few weaknesses that were exploited by great boxers like Holyfield and Lennox Lewis.I have been trying to come up with a comp from Tyson’s day.
Tyson in his prime turns this dude into Dinty Moore beef stew in under 60 seconds.
The best I can think of is Peter McNeeley. Peter trained about ten minutes from where I live so I was familiar with him. Peter was more of a brawler than Paul but he had a ton more experienece than Paul. I think Peter was something like 35-1 when he got destroyed by Tyson.
But don ‘t let Peter’s record fool you. It was even worse back in the 80/90’s where tomato cans were used to beef up many boxers records in the hope for that one shot.
I definitely see the likeness and comp, nice work. Tyson from about maybe Spring of 85 to when he fought Berbick in late 86 was fighting dudes like every 3 weeks. Their quality obviously varied from the useless (Marvis Frazier) to actually pretty good (Bonecrusher Smith). Whomever he fought in that 18 months to 2 years, he was utterly terrifying. Never seen a heavyweight before with his combination of power, head movement and frightening hand speed.
Even Tyson in his absolute prime would have had some problems with these two guys. But it would have been great to watch them in their primes vs each other.
Lewis had a glass jaw but his strength, and size and jack hammer of a jab gave Tyson tons of issues.
I watched the Buster Douglas fight live on HBO and by the third round I was calling my uncle (who got me into boxing heavily as a kid) telling him…..Tyson is going to lose this fight.
A clear headed Tyson a year earlier would have destroyed Douglas. But James came into this fight in the best shape of his entire career and executed his fight to perfection.
Tyson on the other hand was a mess mentally, using coke, clearly did not train, and had an all new corner who were clueless and had no ****ing ice in his corner.
It was a fiasco.
Yeah Douglas never looked as good before or since that fight, he was at his absolute peak and Tyson was sloppy and distracted. That said, there was a long count after Tyson knocked him down, forget which round and really if you watch it again, Tyson should have won, despite not fighting well on the night.
I guess with all the other distractions it was coming. The fight with Lewis in 02 was awful to watch, hard to call if they fought in like 87-90. A lot different for sure. Think he beats Lewis in that era, but can never be sure. 85-88 he was truly unbeatable, or seemed it. What he did to Spinks in 88 was scary. Despite the flaws (susceptible to a much bigger fighter with a long jab for example), not really seen a heavyweight do that to another in his prime.
So I analyzed the long count many many times. Douglas was more than able to get up….fighters are taught to hear the count and Douglas picked up the refs count perfectly. It was a flash knockdown. He got stunned but he was highly coherent.Yeah he was unbelievable. But he had a few weaknesses that were exploited by great boxers like Holyfield and Lennox Lewis.I have been trying to come up with a comp from Tyson’s day.
Tyson in his prime turns this dude into Dinty Moore beef stew in under 60 seconds.
The best I can think of is Peter McNeeley. Peter trained about ten minutes from where I live so I was familiar with him. Peter was more of a brawler than Paul but he had a ton more experienece than Paul. I think Peter was something like 35-1 when he got destroyed by Tyson.
But don ‘t let Peter’s record fool you. It was even worse back in the 80/90’s where tomato cans were used to beef up many boxers records in the hope for that one shot.
I definitely see the likeness and comp, nice work. Tyson from about maybe Spring of 85 to when he fought Berbick in late 86 was fighting dudes like every 3 weeks. Their quality obviously varied from the useless (Marvis Frazier) to actually pretty good (Bonecrusher Smith). Whomever he fought in that 18 months to 2 years, he was utterly terrifying. Never seen a heavyweight before with his combination of power, head movement and frightening hand speed.
Even Tyson in his absolute prime would have had some problems with these two guys. But it would have been great to watch them in their primes vs each other.
Lewis had a glass jaw but his strength, and size and jack hammer of a jab gave Tyson tons of issues.
I watched the Buster Douglas fight live on HBO and by the third round I was calling my uncle (who got me into boxing heavily as a kid) telling him…..Tyson is going to lose this fight.
A clear headed Tyson a year earlier would have destroyed Douglas. But James came into this fight in the best shape of his entire career and executed his fight to perfection.
Tyson on the other hand was a mess mentally, using coke, clearly did not train, and had an all new corner who were clueless and had no ****ing ice in his corner.
It was a fiasco.
Yeah Douglas never looked as good before or since that fight, he was at his absolute peak and Tyson was sloppy and distracted. That said, there was a long count after Tyson knocked him down, forget which round and really if you watch it again, Tyson should have won, despite not fighting well on the night.
I guess with all the other distractions it was coming. The fight with Lewis in 02 was awful to watch, hard to call if they fought in like 87-90. A lot different for sure. Think he beats Lewis in that era, but can never be sure. 85-88 he was truly unbeatable, or seemed it. What he did to Spinks in 88 was scary. Despite the flaws (susceptible to a much bigger fighter with a long jab for example), not really seen a heavyweight do that to another in his prime.
Tyson on the other hand took so much punishment….it was really bad. A stronger finisher would have beat him even quicker that particular night.
Yeah 85-89 Tyson was unbeatable. And Michael Spinks had zero…..I mean zero business being in the ring with Tyson. He narrowly beat a way out of his prime Larry Holmes (that decision was hot garbage and I personally believe it was done to keep Rocky Marciano’s 49-0 in tact). You gotta beat a unified world champ to take the belts. Spinks did nothing of a sort to the great Easton Assassin Larry Holmes. Then in a rematch Holmes again did enough and they still gave the decision to an undersized weak Michael Spinks.
That was such a mismatch (Tyson vs Spinks)……Spinks was dead on arrival. He wanted no part of it. That body shot that put him on his knee on the first knockdown….lol. Anyway.
Tyson was a beast. Unfortunately he has looked nothing like that guy since the Douglas miracle in Tokyo.
I understand he looks in great shape. But I seriously doubt he can do much if Paul has any semblance of real boxing skills. He is 58 and I am sorry but your hand eye, muscles, footwork…..all of it is not even in the same stratosphere as a young man in great physical shape and actively fighting.
It will be interesting.
I really don't want to give either of these two guys money... but like you said it's too much of a trainwreck to not look away and I'll probably watch/buy.This is going to be so stupid…I am total watching.
I really don't want to give either of these two guys money... but like you said it's too much of a trainwreck to not look away and I'll probably watch/buy.This is going to be so stupid…I am total watching.
I don't know.I really don't want to give either of these two guys money... but like you said it's too much of a trainwreck to not look away and I'll probably watch/buy.This is going to be so stupid…I am total watching.
Its on netflix right?
He is an actor so hopefully he is not playing a role.Tyson is certainly talking like a guy who is taking this seriously/not planning to throw the match or take it easy.
He is an actor so hopefully he is not playing a role.Tyson is certainly talking like a guy who is taking this seriously/not planning to throw the match or take it easy.
I def won't pay extra but am pretty certain is Netflix and you don't need to do anything else.I don't know.I really don't want to give either of these two guys money... but like you said it's too much of a trainwreck to not look away and I'll probably watch/buy.This is going to be so stupid…I am total watching.
Its on netflix right?
Tyson is certainly talking like a guy who is taking this seriously/not planning to throw the match or take it easy.
Paraphrasing but when he said something along the lines of he’s a fake/made-up killer and I’m a real one my ears perked up.Tyson is certainly talking like a guy who is taking this seriously/not planning to throw the match or take it easy.
The last interview thing I saw, Tyson actually seems very much locked in. Paul, I cannot tell how serious he is.
Yes it’s free on Netflix for subscribers.I def won't pay extra but am pretty certain is Netflix and you don't need to do anything else.I don't know.I really don't want to give either of these two guys money... but like you said it's too much of a trainwreck to not look away and I'll probably watch/buy.This is going to be so stupid…I am total watching.
Its on netflix right?
"I am a born killer"Paraphrasing but when he said something along the lines of he’s a fake/made-up killer and I’m a real one my ears perked up.Tyson is certainly talking like a guy who is taking this seriously/not planning to throw the match or take it easy.
The last interview thing I saw, Tyson actually seems very much locked in. Paul, I cannot tell how serious he is.
I can buy that. Tyson always has a haymakers chance. Because he throws bombs on the inside.If Tyson still has knockout power this will be a short fight. jake has never fought a real boxer and leaves himself exposed all the time.
Paraphrasing but when he said something along the lines of he’s a fake/made-up killer and I’m a real one my ears perked up.Tyson is certainly talking like a guy who is taking this seriously/not planning to throw the match or take it easy.
The last interview thing I saw, Tyson actually seems very much locked in. Paul, I cannot tell how serious he is.
Not available in PaOdds on DK
Paul -210
Tyson +170
Draw +800
Paul by KO +140 by decision+280
Tyson by KO
They removed method of win as I was looking at it lol
Totally agree. The guy is famous just because of how "society" is now. It makes me want to puke. I hope Tyson pounds him.The only thing I know about Paul has been what I've read in this thread and a friend or two's take. He's everything I can't stand about modern social media mania. And more.
So as we approach, the thought of him beating Tyson and what that will do for him makes me cringe. He will be around even longer and hold onto it forever. Literally, the last guy you want to see take Iron Mike out. It's akin to him and his ilk/generation taking out an older one. Oh how he will milk it. Ugh.
I heard they expected the fight to start around 11pm ET, but I don't know for sureWhat's everyone's guesstimate on the actual time the Paul v. Tyson fight will start....with the main card starting at 8pm ET (5pm PT for me) ?
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- Main Card, 8 p.m. ET at AT&T Stadium in Arlington, TX
It's the fight we've been waiting for. Mike Tyson vs. Jake Paul will be available globally on Netflix, via any and all Netflix plans.
Full Tyson vs. Paul card
- Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson, heavyweight bout
- Katie Taylor (c) vs. Amanda Serrano, undisputed lightweight title bout
- Mario Barrios (c) vs. Abel Ramos, WBC welterweight title bout
- Shadasia Green vs. Melinda Watpool, vacant WBO super middleweight title bout
- Lucas Bahdi vs. Armando Casamonica, lightweight bout
- Bruce Carrington vs. Dana Coolwell, featherweight bout
- Neeraj Goyat vs. Whindersson Nunes, middleweight bout
Unless I am mistaken, the 2 minute rounds were negotiated by Tyson's side because they knew the normal 3 minute rounds would be beyond his ability to last.With eight two-minute rounds, I'd expect Tyson by decision to be even longer odds than Tyson in 60 seconds.