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please for the love of god and all that which is holy let this happen take that to the bank brochachos
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Mike Tyson Vs Jake Paul? (1 Viewer)
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Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
See, I think Tyson has really softened over the last few years. He doesn't want to be that "animal" anymore and is in a much better place mentally. You should hear him on podcasts, etc. He really has become an introspective guy with a lot of great insights.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
He always seemed like a thoughtful and introspective guy to me. I think he's smarter than he's given credit for by many. He's done some dumb and awful **** (so have many posting here), but I never questioned his intelligence.
massraider
Footballguy
I need a Tyson and Charles Barkley broadcast
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
The 10 second training clips are nice but I really think people (other than oddsmakers and gamblers) are underestimating what it means to be a 58 year old guy who's been training and beating the crap out of his body since he was a teenager. I'm sure technique and instincts of a retired pro boxer count for a lot in this, but I'm far from certain as others here are that will be enough to overcome the massive athletic advantage a 27 year old in the prime of his life has in this. I'm thinking of the example where a top level professional women's soccer or basketball team plays a team of 15 year old boys. The women have this massive advantage in terms of experience, skill/technique but typically get bowled over by raw speed and power.
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
Still can’t believe that guy got his own Sega Genesis game
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
If Iron Mike lands a few it might not last very long
Beef Ravioli Part 2
Footballguy
I was in a dorm room when someone told me that Tyson got knocked out. I thought it had to be wrong because there was no way somebody named “Buster” knocked out Tyson!
I didn’t cry though. I think we were all laughing in disbelief.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Yeah I'm far from a boxing expert but this seems like a classic situation where Tyson has to end this early or he'll run out of steam quickly. The main wildcard is the extent to which its scripted, which renders all this discussion pointless. Since its free on Netflix, I'll probably watch assuming I don't forget and I don't have literally anything else to do that night.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
A lot of talk of the "script" being set up for Paul. But what if they flipped the script and set it up for Tyson? Mike is the old dog and also the underdog. If he loses this one nobody is going to be interested in a yet older Mike in a rematch. Maybe a controversial headbutt early in the fight that puts Jake off balance and ripe for the upset.
Deepster
Footballguy
I saw a TikTok (sorry for the lame source) that said there are going to be nonstandard rules like:
1) Paul will wear headgear
2) Paul does not have to get down to a certain weight
3) Paul will not be drug tested, basically saying he can be a juice monster at any weight.
Not sure if any/all that is true. I looked more and couldn't find anything but figured I'd toss it in here anyway.
1) Paul will wear headgear
2) Paul does not have to get down to a certain weight
3) Paul will not be drug tested, basically saying he can be a juice monster at any weight.
Not sure if any/all that is true. I looked more and couldn't find anything but figured I'd toss it in here anyway.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
TikTok is notoriously untrustworthy but the headgear wouldn't surprise me but if he wears headgear, Tyson will to. I don't think even Texas would sanction a fight with one guy in headgear and the other without...but who knows. If it's a heavyweight fight, of course there is no weight limit. I have no idea what Tyson weighs now but when he was in his prime, he was 220 and Paul has been fighting under 200. So Paul better be big for the fight. I do not believe a fight would be sanctioned in Texas without drug testing or at least the threat of it.
the moops
Footballguy
Meh. You put that much money in front of anyone and they will down what they are told to do
General Malaise
Footballguy
Both these guys are roided up to the gills, right? I know Paul is. I suspect Tyson is as well.
massraider
Footballguy
BAH GAWD, THAT'S EVANDER HOLYFIELD'S MUSIC!
Todem
Footballguy
Have you seen him Box say I don't know ever since he got out of prison back in the 90's.
Come on man.
Tyson at 57? Any half decent
Boxer will destroy him now.
This has to be a circus side show right?
Todem
Footballguy
It's a bet.
Todem
Footballguy
When the **** was Tyson last for real?
I will tell you when.....before Buster Douglas knocked him out.
He has never been close to the same Tyson since.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
Script says Tyson wins. Pay per view rematch. Then Paul wins.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Maybe. Im not gonna pretend to know what Tyson is thinking here. I will say we have a boxing career of him being as ferocious of an athlete we have ever seen and going off script being crazy. Like someone said earlier. He may or may not have some weird money making deal in place. We shall see if he remembers his signature after he gets hit in the face and goes crazy Mike. I'm not gonna pay to watch this fight but I'm definitely interested in it.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Don Quixote
Footballguy
I had no idea who Jake Paul was. And, after looking him up, I was okay with that.
scoobus
Footballguy
Isn't that from like 4 years ago?
Ilov80s
Footballguy
scoobus
Footballguy
Ok, seems pretty relevant when responding to what I asked.
Is what good, the 10 seconds of pad work?
Ilov80s
Footballguy
You said he could barely walk. What length of pad work would prove he can walk?
scoobus
Footballguy
Not really looking to get into an argument. I remember a couple year ago he was in a wheelchair and using a cane for whatever he was dealing with, I'm not making that up. You then posted a clip from like 4 years ago as proof that he was fine. No big deal.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Yep, age really might get him.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
No matter what, I do not think this fight will actually be a fight
scoobus
Footballguy
Like you think it will end up being an exhibition or you think it will be one-sided?
Pretty shameful **** from Paul IMO, but I guess you gotta grab that $$$.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
It's more than likely a sparring event more than a fight IMO.
And what about Logan or Jake Paul would make you ever think he wanted to do something other than make money
the moops
Footballguy
Not that I have any love for these dudes, but isn't this exactly what every boxer is doing? Trying to make as much money as possible?
culdeus
Footballguy
Dallas at att. And I'll likely get to go as my child hood bff is the attorney for the event team.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Well sure every human is trying to make money. Not everyone is trying to make the max amount of money or is only into making money.
the moops
Footballguy
But boxers? I mean maybe there are a few dudes who just want to smash faces, but in general they want to win and collect the purse
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Would you get in a ring with him?
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
I think for many athletic pursuits, mid-to-late fifties is pushing physiologic limits. And some activities much earlier.
Reflexes are one of the first things to go, along with quickness. Those seem really important in boxing. But there is precedent for old boxers:
odds are moving:
While sports betting odds aren’t available from licensed sportsbooks, some offshore sportsbooks have posted odds for the fight. Bovada, one such unregulated, offshore sportsbook, has Paul as a -225 favorite, with Tyson a +170 underdog.
In the 24 hours since the odds posted, they’ve shifted in Tyson’s direction, as Paul opened as a -500 favorite.
Of course the people are doing it for money. That's a given.
I think what some folks are feeling is the tension between sport and spectacle.
For lots of people in their 50's, they grew up where boxing was a highly respected sport. Sure there were some flamboyant promoters and such but by and large the primary talk on Boxing was about "normal" boxers and boxing.
Not the spectacle stuff like this.
I don't deny it's interesting. This is text book for drawing people in with the young celebrity guy vs the old champion. It's formulaic and I expect it'll have a huge audience. It's just different from what many think of (or maybe thought of is more accurate) as the sport of boxing.
I think what some folks are feeling is the tension between sport and spectacle.
For lots of people in their 50's, they grew up where boxing was a highly respected sport. Sure there were some flamboyant promoters and such but by and large the primary talk on Boxing was about "normal" boxers and boxing.
Not the spectacle stuff like this.
I don't deny it's interesting. This is text book for drawing people in with the young celebrity guy vs the old champion. It's formulaic and I expect it'll have a huge audience. It's just different from what many think of (or maybe thought of is more accurate) as the sport of boxing.
It's instagram so you know it HAS to be true. 
And I know there was talk about a date being wrong on a video. Not sure if it's this one. And not sure on the speed of the replay. But if accurate, the reflexes look ok here... https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3a76eFu-np/?igsh=MWp1MGV3MHB2Z3N1OA==
And I know there was talk about a date being wrong on a video. Not sure if it's this one. And not sure on the speed of the replay. But if accurate, the reflexes look ok here... https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3a76eFu-np/?igsh=MWp1MGV3MHB2Z3N1OA==
massraider
Footballguy
It's instagram so you know it HAS to be true.
Yeah, I am going to assume his power on those hooks and uppercuts I remember is still there.
Sometimes, it's just about power. https://x.com/BleacherReport/status/1766280590939283658?s=20
culdeus
Footballguy
They not teach kids to keep their hands up anymore? Lads left hand could have not been more down.
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