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Music Draft - Rolling Stone Greatest 500 Songs Garbage List - Now with unhealthy regional pork-stuffs! (1 Viewer)

During the early days of lockdown, I took to doing top ten songs lists on my Instagram stories :nerd: . I was quite bored and it was a fun little time waster.

One of the artists I tackled was David Bowie. He's my #1 "classic" artist of all time and after much deliberation, I decided that this was my favourite song of his (narrowly edging out "Five Years" which seems to not be on this list), so let's lock it in. 

3.18 - Life on Mars - David Bowie (#105)

 
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My karaoke song was Pour Some Sugar On Me. I worked at Walmart and had a group of tight friends that would all go do karaoke after work before or sometimes in place of heading down to the clubs on Saturday night. 

It got to the point that I didn't even sign up, at some point the host would just call me up. 

Def Leppard should be on this list imo.

 
I’m actually heading into my physical office this morning, which has only happened about a dozen times in the last 18 months.

I’ll still try and check in often but I have a feeling I’ll be doing more kibitzing than I’m used to and might be away from the draft here and there.

 
Sticking with my karaoke theme, I’ll take a song I do often but rarely get through without the waterworks starting ...

3.22 Beatles - In My Life (#98)

Some songs just get to you and this one is it for me. Thinking about places I remember, friends, lovers, some dead, some remain ... then I look up at Mrs. Punk and I turn into a puddle.
It may not be The Beatles, but Judy Collins' cover would rank highly for me if we did a song from TV show/movie draft.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQYIHaAs1aw

 
Sticking with my karaoke theme, I’ll take a song I do often but rarely get through without the waterworks starting ...

3.22 Beatles - In My Life (#98)

Some songs just get to you and this one is it for me. Thinking about places I remember, friends, lovers, some dead, some remain ... then I look up at Mrs. Punk and I turn into a puddle.
Uh oh, you have taken our draftmistress' favorite Beatles song. You may have heard that she kind of likes the Beatles. 

 
My karaoke song was Pour Some Sugar On Me. I worked at Walmart and had a group of tight friends that would all go do karaoke after work before or sometimes in place of heading down to the clubs on Saturday night. 

It got to the point that I didn't even sign up, at some point the host would just call me up. 

Def Leppard should be on this list imo.
This is on my list as well but I have a feeling my list is much longer than most. I have a slight karaoke problem ever since my buddy really got into hunting for songs for our personal use at home. He is up over 11,000 songs in the collection.

Pour some sugar and Livin on a Prayer are two great late night party anthems that get the crowd going.

 
Uh oh, you have taken our draftmistress' favorite Beatles song. You may have heard that she kind of likes the Beatles. 
I was a little worried about that but one must put friendship aside on draft day ... although for some reason my draft buddies tend to leave most of my Raiders off of their draft lists.

 
Mrs. Rannous takes

Creedence Clearwater Revival - Fortunate Son (#227)

 
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Sticking with my karaoke theme, I’ll take a song I do often but rarely get through without the waterworks starting ...

3.22 Beatles - In My Life (#98)

Some songs just get to you and this one is it for me. Thinking about places I remember, friends, lovers, some dead, some remain ... then I look up at Mrs. Punk and I turn into a puddle.
Although you were actively involved in the original Beatles countdown thread, I have to assume you didn’t read my posts.  If you had, I’m sure you wouldn’t have taken my #1 freaking Beatles song.   :rant:  

(I’m only kidding.  Wasn’t planning to take it myself.  My love to Mrs. Punk.)

 
I’m actually heading into my physical office this morning, which has only happened about a dozen times in the last 18 months.

I’ll still try and check in often but I have a feeling I’ll be doing more kibitzing than I’m used to and might be away from the draft here and there.
Do you want us to wait for you?

You can also send someone your pick if you’d like.

 
Although you were actively involved in the original Beatles countdown thread, I have to assume you didn’t read my posts.  If you had, I’m sure you wouldn’t have taken my #1 freaking Beatles song.   :rant:  

(I’m only kidding.  Wasn’t planning to take it myself.  My love to Mrs. Punk.)
Its in my top 3-4 too depending on if the Abbey Road Medley counts as 1 song.

 
3.24 - Mobb Deep - "Shook Ones (Part II)" (#215)

Another one where I have no idea if I'm in any danger of being sniped, so this may be about 12 rounds too early.  But for me personally, this is probably my single favorite hip-hop song ever, so I was pleased to see it on the top 500 list.

The lyrics aren't anything groundbreaking, but it's the casual callousness, the hardened anger in Prodigy's (RIP) delivery, that creates his iconic nearly 90-second long non-stop first verse.  A verse that any hip-hop head can probably still recite in its entirety today, 26 years after release. 

All of that laid over a simply amazing beat of Herbie Hancock and Quincy Jones samples interspersed with the tick-tick-tick sound of a gas range trying to light, on what has been described a "once in a lifetime beat" by Mobb Deep member Havoc, who produced the track.  And all of this when both group members were only 19 years old.

#201 - 225 has some absolute gems.  It's a pretty stacked category.  But I'd be remiss if I didn't grab this one.

 
3.25 Springsteen - Rosalita (#446)

Kills two birds. The scarcity in the block. Not much else interests me there. The college nostalgia singalong drunken parties. Three things set this apart from singing along to Bruce's other stuff. The Big Man. He's in rare form here.

The joy. Bruce just had a blast singing this backinaday. Lotta lyrics to learn but I/we had them down pat.

Two lyrical breaks. Bruce steps away from the mic and the rest of the band chants...

Your poppa says he knows that i don't have any money, poppa says he knows that i don't have any money, poppa says he knows... great singing it drunk.

The other is similar. Bruce steps away during the outro and the band just chants, hey hey hey hey hey hey hey. You probably had to be there, biggest party school in the country, all the drunks chanting hey in each other's faces, all the girls sort of scared. 

I typed this while Tasker was typing. I check with fear. Cool, no worries.

4.1 The Beatles - Let it Be (#121) Chalk singalong for me, but miffed by what will be sniped before seeing this corner next.

GONE FISHIN'

 
Mrs. Rannous takes Fortunate Son, #227.
I think I’m able to see with clarity now my main problem with this list: Rolling Stone puts far too much emphasis on importance. 
“Fortunate Son” is a fine song, but there are about a half dozen or more CCR songs that are better: better written, better performed. But “Fortunate Son” is more important given the significance of its lyrics at the time it was written. And this is the same with so many other songs on this list- notably Billie Holiday’s “Strange Fruit” - great song but in what universe is it better than “God Bless the Child”, or for that matter a whole host of Cole Porter, Irving Berlin, and George Gershwin masterpieces that you have to consider if you’re going to allow “Strange Fruit” in anyhow? 
 

Social or historical importance should not, IMO, be an element of greatness. Nor should influence. I think you should be able to listen to a song without knowing a single thing about its history and evaluate its greatness based on the elements of the song: structure, melody, lyrics, production, etc. 

 
4.02 - Whitney Houston - "I Wanna Dance with Somebody" (#231)

In this house, we stan Whitney.  There are several fantastic options in this list.  But this song will forever be my favorite.  

A pretty stark departure from Mobb Deep at my turn picks here.  But I got the 4 must-haves that I had identified on my initial run-through of the list, so I'm pleased.

 
Billie Holiday’s “Strange Fruit” - great song but in what universe is it better than “God Bless the Child”, or for that matter a whole host of Cole Porter, Irving Berlin, and George Gershwin masterpieces that you have to consider if you’re going to allow “Strange Fruit” in anyhow? 
When Kanye samples "God Bless The Child" we can talk. (I have no doubt "Blood on the Leaves" plays some part in Strange Fruit's climb in recent years).

 
4.1 The Beatles - Let it Be (#121) Chalk singalong for me, but miffed by what will be sniped before seeing this corner next.

GONE FISHIN'


Unless I'm wrong, you're the first person to choose something from the same grouping twice, as you already have Sympathy for the Devil here at #106.  @Chaos Commish, if you're still around, pick again

 
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I think I’m able to see with clarity now my main problem with this list: Rolling Stone puts far too much emphasis on importance. 
“Fortunate Son” is a fine song, but there are about a half dozen or more CCR songs that are better: better written, better performed. But “Fortunate Son” is more important given the significance of its lyrics at the time it was written. And this is the same with so many other songs on this list- notably Billie Holiday’s “Strange Fruit” - great song but in what universe is it better than “God Bless the Child”, or for that matter a whole host of Cole Porter, Irving Berlin, and George Gershwin masterpieces that you have to consider if you’re going to allow “Strange Fruit” in anyhow? 
 

Social or historical importance should not, IMO, be an element of greatness. Nor should influence. I think you should be able to listen to a song without knowing a single thing about its history and evaluate its greatness based on the elements of the song: structure, melody, lyrics, production, etc. 


agree to disagree.

if you were staring down the barrel of getting drafted - it was a big deal

and hey, it's no Country Joe & the Fish.

 
Is it just an "I don't like female vocals" thing, or do you have more specific problems with how that version was done? 
Bit of both, I suppose.  I do not like her voice at all, on anything really, even though I acknowledge that is just me and that her voice is very good.  I haven't listened to this cover in years and turn it off if it comes on Beatles channel, but I remember thinking she sang it as too much of a dirge.  Not enough hope combined with wistfulness.

 
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I saw Counting Crows and Live back in the 90's. Didn't know anything about either band at that time but the girl I was seeing was a big Live fan so we went. The opening act was some weird comedian/magician who was terrible. The crowd was booing and yelling at him until this chubby guy in a bathrobe with dreads came out and told everyone to just chill out and love everybody. I was like- who is this tool?!- only to find out later it was Adam Duritz :bag:
😃   Duritz isn't chubby anymore. He was in a very good mood last night. He introduced Frank Turner when he opened, and stayed on the side of the stage for Frank's whole set, and sang along to his songs (but not in a mic).  I think it was the song "Hanginaround" that Frank came on stage and sang during the CCs show.  When the CCs finished and the lights came on in the venue and music played over the speakers, Duritz stayed for the first song on the speakers, and danced and sang to it standing on some pillars. He was in a happy state of mind. 

 
I think I’m able to see with clarity now my main problem with this list: Rolling Stone puts far too much emphasis on importance. 
This was one of my many beefs with their top 100 Neil Young songs list. They had ham-handed political songs in there that had no business being anywhere near the top 100. 

 

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