*Official 1st Day Draft Thread -Round 1 - Round 3* (1 Viewer)

[Capella]

I'm hoping and praying Jackson falls to 15.lease:

 

[Marc Levin]

The Lions got the Browns 2nd Round pick in 2004 and the Roy Williams pick for the Kellen Winslow pick.Score, Lions.

Big time.They will get a good RB In the 2nd round and another good player besides with back to back 2nd round picks - maybe even Vernon Carey or some other top rated guard.The Lions are actually looking up.

 

[Memphis Foundry]

Nice trade for the much-maligned Matt Millen.

 

[BassNBrew]

The Lions got the Browns 2nd Round pick in 2004 and the Roy Williams pick for the Kellen Winslow pick.Score, Lions.

Why do these teams grossly overpay to move up a small amount? They next the "Trade Dominator".

 

[cracKer]

DeAngelo Hall

 

[joffer]

The Lions got the Browns 2nd Round pick in 2004 and the Roy Williams pick for the Kellen Winslow pick.Score, Lions.

yet somehow, Matt Millen will get ZERO credit for it.

 

[jurb26]

Big time.They will get a good RB In the 2nd round and another good player besides with back to back 2nd round picks - maybe even Vernon Carey or some other top rated guard.The Lions are actually looking up.

Yeah great trade for the Lions. But Carey will be gone by the time the get that 2nd rd pick I'm guessing.

 

[JimmyD]

San Diego could use that extra 1st rd pick in 2005 in the supplemental draft and possibly get M. Williams.

 

[RIM]

I'm hoping and praying Jackson falls to 15.lease:

retty please:

 

[gregobomb84]

Bills need to get at 10 or 9, so hopefully the jags will trade with them even the texans and they can grab a dl de so the bills can get big Ben

 

[Chris Smith]

Great trade for Detroit and excellent news for Harrington who goes from nobody to throw the ball to (once Rogers was hurt last season) to two potential studs on the outside in Rogers/Williams.If Harrington can't get the job done now, he'll never be able to.

 

[BassNBrew]

How does Roy WIlliams affect Charles Rogers #s?

I'd knock Rogers numbers down about 10%, but he'll be more consistant.

 

[jamny]

I got Wilfork next going to the Falcons

 

[Marc Levin]

How does Roy WIlliams affect Charles Rogers #s?

Improves them - Roy will belearning, Charles will be a year in (though injured a lot of the time). My prediction is that Charles Rogers' numbers will be helped by the receivers that are there (Az Hakim back to the third wide/slot spot is great, too). But, only if Harringotn gets some more time in the pocket.The Lions need to address their O-Line and their RB situation for the next two rounds.

 

[jamny]

I'm hoping and praying Jackson falls to 15.lease:

Barring a move up by someone, I think he'll get to Tampa.

 

[Marc Levin]

I got Wilfork next going to the Falcons

Nope - Hall.

 

[Memphis Foundry]

8. ATL - DeAngelo Hall, CB, Va. Tech

 

[Vivian Darkbloom]

Bills need to get at 10 or 9, so hopefully the jags will trade with them even the texans and they can grab a dl de so the bills can get big Ben

Rooting for this as well, as I really don't want him on PIT.

 

[Marc Levin]

Nope - Hall.

Plus - Wilfork is FALLing in this draft - maybe as far as Denver, but probably not past Buffalo (assuming Buff loses out on Big Ben).

 

[Vivian Darkbloom]

8. ATL - DeAngelo Hall, CB, Va. Tech

No surprise there, either. Lot of drama, but not a lot of surprises, so far.

 

[9985]

Non-TV Dudes: Hall looked really happy to go to ATL. Said a prayer with the fam at his table.

 

[jamny]

Nope - Hall.

oh well, still not a huge shocker.

 

[jwvdcw]

Did they just say that Hall runs a 4.15 40 yard dash??

 

[Capella]

retty please:

Barring a tradeup, I don't see any obstacles.

 

[flipya4real]

Barring a move up by someone, I think he'll get to Tampa.

Ibid

 

[Hendo]

Detroit absolutely FLEECED Cleveland... what the hell were they thinking to move up ONE freaking spot? NOW detroit could concievably move BACK up into the 1st with those high 2nd rounders and POSSIBLY still get Jackson or Kevin Jones...

 

[TommyKramer]

It'll be interesting to see if Jax takes K. Udeze, or if he begins his freefall right here.

 

[Vivian Darkbloom]

Did they just say that Hall runs a 4.15 40 yard dash??

Hall himself has been talking up his own mythical 4.15 for weeks. :hilarity:

 

[Angry Grovers]

Yo Capella!Huge Bucs and Lightning fan in Helsinki.Gruden's gotta make the play for Stevie J.GO LIGHTNING!

 

[Capella]

Barring a move up by someone, I think he'll get to Tampa.

lolBy the time I type something, somebody else has already said it.

 

[RIM]

boomer needs a nap...

 

[Eric Stratton]

Lot of drama, but not a lot of surprises, so far.

Are you serious? We already have had a blockbuster trade between the Giants and Chargers and Cleveland making a boneheaded trade with the Lions.

 

[gregobomb84]

ok buffalo your runnin outta options, you can deal with the jags or the texans... good luck.... if they wont budge then trade down for a defensive player

 

[Marc Levin]

Detroit absolutely FLEECED Cleveland... what the hell were they thinking to move up ONE freaking spot? NOW detroit could concievably move BACK up into the 1st with those high 2nd rounders and POSSIBLY still get Jackson or Kevin Jones...

It's right in line with Cleveland, to be honest - they have been HORRIBLE in the first round for the last few years. Butch asking for Willie Green over Portis is inexcusable, and now this?

 

[Mystery Achiever]

aj smith claiming the rivers pick by the giants was a total surprise; would not publcly say the order on draft board of top 3 qb's

 

[Vivian Darkbloom]

Detroit absolutely FLEECED Cleveland... what the hell were they thinking to move up ONE freaking spot?

There's been talk for days that KW Jr was the #1 overall guy on about HALF the draft boards among NFL teams. Detroit knew this, shopped around, found at least two, and a bidding war ensued.The deal you see is the final selling price. If you want your guy when there's a demand for him, it's gonna cost you.

 

[Capella]

Yo Capella!Huge Bucs and Lightning fan in Helsinki.Gruden's gotta make the play for Stevie J.GO LIGHTNING!

That's awesome. Loooooong way from Tampa.

 

[Marc Levin]

P.S. - O/U of 20 pages before the end of the first round.

 

[Chris Smith]

There's been talk for days that KW Jr was the #1 overall guy on about HALF the draft boards among NFL teams. Detroit knew this, shopped around, found at least two, and a bidding war ensued.The deal you see is the final selling price. If you want your guy when there's a demand for him, it's gonna cost you.

Good point but still a hell of a deal for the Lions!

 

[jwvdcw]

Hall himself has been talking up his own mythical 4.15 for weeks. :hilarity:

Did he run at the combine or are there any 'official' reports out there?

 

[BassNBrew]

I'm hoping and praying Jackson falls to 15.lease:

Then you'll have at least one RB on par with "He Hate Me". OK...maybe a little earlier with the trash talk.

 

[9985]

4 out of 8 picks so far are Big East guys.

 

[jamny]

P.S. - O/U of 20 pages before the end of the first round.

easy over...

 

[cracKer]

Someone will trade up for Roethlisberger...soon

 

[Vivian Darkbloom]

Are you serious? We already have had a blockbuster trade between the Giants and Chargers and Cleveland making a boneheaded trade with the Lions.

Yeah. That's all drama.But the NYG/SD trade has been talked about for days. As has the idea that SOMEBODY was going to move up to get Winslow. Lots of moving, lots of jiving, but nobody going out on any limbs or taking any surprising players.

 

[BassNBrew]

4 out of 8 picks so far are Big East guys.

Correction...1 out of 8.4 of 8 picks have been ACC players.

 

[Eric Stratton]

Yeah.  That's all drama.But the NYG/SD trade has been talked about for days.  As has the idea that SOMEBODY was going to move up to get Winslow.  Lots of moving, lots of jiving, but nobody going out on any limbs or taking any surprising players.

There is always a lot of trade talk before a draft and much of it never takes place. I don't think anyone would have guessed how much the Giants were willing to pay for Manning. I also don't think anyone saw Cleveland moving up to take Winslow. Now the drama and eventual surprise will be if Buffalo moves up. As for "surprising" picks, give it time. The draft isn't even 10 picks old.Edit...now Reggie Williams was a surprising pick.

 

[BassNBrew]

P.S. - O/U of 20 pages before the end of the first round.

We'll have at least two pages on the Vikes screw up.

 

[Mario Kart]

where we are at right now

Round 1

1 (TRADE) N.Y. Giants - Eli Manning, QB, Mississippi give up 3rd 2004, & 1st & 5th 2005

2 Oakland - Robert Gallery, OT, Iowa

3 Arizona - Larry Fitzgerald, WR, Pittsburgh

4 (TRADE) San Diego - Philip Rivers, QB, NC State gain 3rd 2004, 1st & 5th round 2005

5 Washington - Sean Taylor, S, MIA

6(TRADE) Cleveland - Kellen Winslow, TE, Mia give 2nd round pick 2004

7 (TRADE) Detroit - Roy Williams, WR, Texas gain 2nd round 2004

8 Atlanta - DeAngelo Hall, CB, Va. Tech

9 Jacksonville -

 

[cosjobs]

Dallas offers NYG their #5 and Chad Hennings for Kerry COllins