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***Official 2014 World Cup Thread*** (2 Viewers)

I dont think we should invite Greece back to the next World Cup. Next time we should replace them with one of the Scandanvian countries (preferably Sweden or Denmark).

Edit: You know, because they play beautiful football.

 
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I dont think we should invite Greece back to the next World Cup. Next time we should replace them with one of the Scandanvian countries (preferably Sweden or Denmark).

Edit: You know, because they play beautiful football.
Definitely Sweden. This World Cup needs Zlatan so it can finally be worth watching.

 
Goals by league -update

Bundesliga - 14

EPL - 12

La Liga - 9

Serie A - 8

Ligue 1 - 4

MLS - 3

Liga MX - 2

Russian Premier - 2

Eredivisie - 2

Brasileiro - 2

English Championship - 1

Argentine Primera - 1

Belgian Pro - 1

K League - 1

Primeira Liga - 1

Own goal (La Liga) -1

Own goal (Honduran Liga Nacional) - 1

Own goal (Bundesliga) - 1

 
Goals by league -update

Bundesliga - 14

EPL - 12

La Liga - 9

Serie A - 8

Ligue 1 - 4

MLS - 3

Liga MX - 2

Russian Premier - 2

Eredivisie - 2

Brasileiro - 2

English Championship - 1

Argentine Primera - 1

Belgian Pro - 1

K League - 1

Primeira Liga - 1

Own goal (La Liga) -1

Own goal (Honduran Liga Nacional) - 1

Own goal (Bundesliga) - 1
J-League - 0

 
Updated :

Confederation Records So Far*: W-D-L (points per game)

South America: 7-1-2 (2.2)

Africa: 1-1-5 (0.6)

UEFA: 5-2-5 (1.4)

Concacaf: 3-1-1 (2.0)

Asia: 0-3-3 (0.5)

*Europe vs Europe excluded

 
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I dont think we should invite Greece back to the next World Cup. Next time we should replace them with one of the Scandanvian countries (preferably Sweden or Denmark).

Edit: You know, because they play beautiful football.
Well, at least people can spell Greece; not like that northern region.

 
You know I don't even care that this game sucks because there's nothing like having 8 consecutive hours of soccer everyday for 2-3 weeks. Throw in a US win to keep it interesting for the home side and it just doesn't get better than this.

:beer:
I'm not a soccer watcher, and I love the summer olympics, but eventually the world cup is going to take over as my favorite sporting event. There's too much to like.

 
Hey folks. Watching Uruguay England now and have the other two on tape. Based on quality/excitement should I watch the Japan or Columbia game next? Not gonna make it through three games tonight.

 
Do NOT watch the Japan game. It is not recommended for good health.

Columbia game was great, those two games could not be more different from each other.

 
Woz> you suck
Sorry guys. That damn Uruguayan dude is quick.
What he showed today is why I think he is truly in the conversation with Messi and CRonaldo for best player in the world right now.
He isn't a guy that the entire team focusses on shutting out, yet. Maybe he should be, but right now, he isn't. He still finds sneaky openings (to his credit). Messi and Ronaldo are double to trill teamed every time they are near an opening. Especially Messi since he plays directly in the middle. Makes it much easier to collapse on him at every touch. I think that is way Ronaldo likes to line up on the sideline.

 
I was in a bar full of England supporters. I don't think there is any better schadenfreude than watching England collapse with a bunch of England fans.

ETA: if you're into that sort of thing.

 
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Woz> you suck
Sorry guys. That damn Uruguayan dude is quick.
What he showed today is why I think he is truly in the conversation with Messi and CRonaldo for best player in the world right now.
He isn't a guy that the entire team focusses on shutting out, yet. Maybe he should be, but right now, he isn't. He still finds sneaky openings (to his credit). Messi and Ronaldo are double to trill teamed every time they are near an opening. Especially Messi since he plays directly in the middle. Makes it much easier to collapse on him at every touch. I think that is way Ronaldo likes to line up on the sideline.
Agreed. Suarez is a classic finisher in the highest sense, but of what I have seen (maybe those that watch more can correct me) he isn't a creator. He doesn't control and set-up like the other guys do.

 
Man, I can't pick fantasy players worth ####, but did I nail the fact that England is horribly overrated or what?
Not sure what you mean by horribly overrated. They lost games to Italy and Uruguay 2-1, and were never out of either game...and they can still go through :shrug:

Don't think too many people had them going further than just out of the group

 
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Man, I can't pick fantasy players worth ####, but did I nail the fact that England is horribly overrated or what?
Not sure what you mean by horribly overrated. They lost games to Italy and Uruguay 2-1, and were never out of either game...and they can still go through :shrug:

Don't think too many people had them going further than just out of the group
FIFA rankings had both Italy and Uruguay ahead of England.

 
Okay time for more scenarios.

Group C: Greece's ugliness might be rewarded yet - that 0-0 result wasn't the worst thing for them. Though it naturally was better for Colombia and Cote D'Ivoire. Japan's inability to capitalize on the man-advantage has them just about cooked. Anyway.

Colombia: Has clinched a spot in the knock out round.

Will finish first with:

1) a win or tie vs Japan

or 2) a loss and a loss or tie by Cote D'Ivoire

or 3) a loss and a win by Cote D'Ivoire where the combined margin of the games is 3 or less.

or 4) a loss and a win by Cote D'Ivoire where the combined margin of games is exactly 4 and Cote D'Ivoire fails to outscore Colombia by 3 or more.

Cote D'Ivoire:

Will finish first with:

1) a win and a loss by Colombia where the combined marging of the games is 5 or more.

or 2) a win and a loss by Colombia where the combined margin of the games is exactly 4 and Cote D'Ivoire outscores Colombia by 3 or more.

Will clinch a spot in the knock out round with:

1) a win

or 2) a tie and a Japan loss or tie

or 3) a tie and a Japan win by exactly 1 and Japan fails to outscore Cote D'Ivoire by 3 or more.

Cote D'Ivoire is out with a loss.

Greece

Will clinch a spot in the knock out round with:

1) a win and a Japan loss or tie

or 2) a win and a Japan win and Greece's margin of victory is at least 3 goals more than Japan's margin of victory

or 3) a win and a Japan win and Greece's margin of victory is exactly 2 goals more than Japans' margin of victory and Greece outscores Japan by at least 2 goals

or 4) a win and a Japan win and Greece's margin of victory is exactly 2 goals more than Japan's margin of victory and Greece outscores Japan by exactly 1 goal and Greece wins the ensuing drawing of lots.

Greece is out with a loss or tie

Japan

Will clinch a spot in the knockout round with:

1) a win by 2 or more goals and a Cote D'Ivoire tie

or 2) a win by exactly 1 and a Cote D'Ivoire tie and Japan outscores Cote D'Ivoire by 3 or more

or 3) a win and a Greece win and Greece's margin of victory is not more than 1 greater than Japan's margin of victory

or 4) a win and a Greece win and Greece's margin of victory is exactly 2 greater than Japan's margin of victory and Greece fails to outscore Japan

or 5) a win and a Greece win and Greece's margin of victory is exactly 2 greater than Japan's margin of victoyr and Greece outscores Japan by exactly 1 goal and Japan wins the ensuing drawing of lots.

Japan is out with a loss or tie.

So there ya go :)

Pretty simple, eh? ;)

-QG

 
I was in a bar full of England supporters. I don't think there is any better schadenfreude than watching England collapse with a bunch of England fans.

ETA: if you're into that sort of thing.
Sounds like a good time!Ballack seemed pretty happy after the England game.

 
Man, I can't pick fantasy players worth ####, but did I nail the fact that England is horribly overrated or what?
Not sure what you mean by horribly overrated. They lost games to Italy and Uruguay 2-1, and were never out of either game...and they can still go through :shrug:

Don't think too many people had them going further than just out of the group
FIFA rankings had both Italy and Uruguay ahead of England.
Right, they performed to expectations. If Rooney could have finished more than 1 of his 3 point blank shots, they might have been through.
 
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I have all games on my computer/PS3 to watch although I have not watched all. Someone needs to put some rankings down as to "must watch", "watch if nothing better to do" and finally "don't bother". Two of the games today would fit into the "must watch" while the third is a "don't bother". Someone get on this or do a rating of some kind.

I'll be in Madison, WI, for Sundays USA game. Where to go for it?

 
What tomorrow's results in Group D would mean:

A Costa Rica win:

Clinches a spot in the knockout round for the Ticos and elimnates England in the process.

Italy and Uruguay would face off for the other spot in the knockout round (and the winner could still win the group with a win and a Ticos loss and they end up with superior goal differential).

1) If Italy loses by 1 to Costa Rica, Italy would advance with a tie vs Uruguay.

2) If Italy loses by 3 or more to Costa Rica, Italy would advance with a tie vs Uruguay.

3) If Italy loses by exactly 2 to Costa Rica, Italy would advance with a tie vs Uruguay if they score at least 2 goals vs Costa Rica.

4) If Italy loses by an exact score of 2-0 to Costa Rica, Uruguay would advance with a tie vs Italy.

5) If Italy loses by an exact score of 3-1 to Costa Rica, in the event of a tie with Uruguay by the look of the things in the regulations it looks like it goes to a drawing of lots - I know that in the past if the scenario involved two teams that were playing each other in the last game (as would be the case with Italy-Uruguay) that there would actually be an overtime period and/or a penalty-kick shootout. My reading of the 2014 regulations leads me to believe this is NOT the case.

A Costa Rica tie with Italy:

England will be eliminated.

1) Costa Rica will advance with a win or draw.

2) Costa Rica will advance with an Italy win.

3) Costa Rica will advance with a loss and an Italy draw if Costa Rica loses by exactly 1 or 2.

4) Costa Rica will advance with a loss and an Italy draw if Costa Rica loses by exactly 3 and Uruguay does not score more goals vs Italy than Costa Rica score in its last 2 games combined.

5) Costa Rica will advance with a loss and an Italy loss if the margin of defeat for Costa Rica and Italy is the same.

6) Costa Rica will advance with a loss and an Italy loss if the margin of defeat is exactly 1 more for Costa Rica and Italy fails to outscore Costa Rica in their last game.

7) Costa Rica will advance with a loss and an Italy loss if the margin of defeat is exactly 1 more for Costa Rica and Italy outscores Costa Rica by exactly 1 in their last game and Costa Rica wins the drawing of lots.

1) Italy will advance with a win or draw in their last game

2) Italy will advance with a loss and a Costa Rica loss and Costa Rica's margin of defeat is 2 goals more than Italy's margin of defeat.

3) Italy will advance with a loss and a Costa Rica loss and Costa Rica's margin of defeat is exactly 1 more than Italy's margin of defeat and Italy outscores Costa Rica by at least 2.

4) Italy will advance with a loss and a Costa Rica loss and Costa Rica's margin of defeat is exactly 1 more than Italy's margin of defeat and Italy outscores Costa Rica by exactly 1 in their last game and Italy wins the drawing of lots.

1) Uruguay will advance with a win in their last game

2) Uruguay will advance with a tie and aCosta Rica loses by 4 or more.

3) Uruguay will advance with a tie and a Costa Rica loss by exactly 3 and Uruguay scores more goals vs Italy than Costa Rica scores in its last 2 games combined.

I'm gonna take a breath now and figure out the scenarios if Costa Rica loses. This scenario will allow for a 3-way tie for first at 2-1 or a 3-way tie for second at 1-2. Gimmee a moment :)

-QG

 
I have all games on my computer/PS3 to watch although I have not watched all. Someone needs to put some rankings down as to "must watch", "watch if nothing better to do" and finally "don't bother". Two of the games today would fit into the "must watch" while the third is a "don't bother". Someone get on this or do a rating of some kind.

I'll be in Madison, WI, for Sundays USA game. Where to go for it?
The Cooper's Tavern IMO

 
I have all games on my computer/PS3 to watch although I have not watched all. Someone needs to put some rankings down as to "must watch", "watch if nothing better to do" and finally "don't bother". Two of the games today would fit into the "must watch" while the third is a "don't bother". Someone get on this or do a rating of some kind.

I'll be in Madison, WI, for Sundays USA game. Where to go for it?
Iran-Nigeria would be in the "floss your cat instead" category.

-QG

 
Okay so basically it goes like this for Group D if Costa Rica loses to Italy tomorrow.

Again all of these are if COSTA RICA LOSES TOMORROW.

Italy win, Costa Rica win:

1) Italy and 2) Costa Rica

Italy win, Costa Rica tie

1) Italy and 2) Cost Rica

Italy win, Costa Rica loss

1) Italy - 2) would be the three way Uruguay/Costa Rica/England scenario. I'll do this below.

Italy tie, Costa Rica win:

1) Italy and 2) Costa Rica

Italy tie, Costa Rica tie:

1) Italy and 2) Uruguay if:

a) Costa Rica loses by 4 or more goals to Italy

b) Costa Rica loses by exactly 3 goals to Italy and Uruguay scores more vs Italy than Costa Rica does in its 2 games

1) Italy and 2) Costa Rica if:

a) Costa Rica loses by exactly 1or 2 goals to Italy

b) Costa Rica loses by exactly 3 goals to Italy and Uruguay does not score more vs Italy than Costa Rica does in its 2 games

Italy tie, Costa Rica loss:

1) Italy and 2) Uruguay

Italy loss, Costa Rica win

This would be the ugly 3-way tie b/w Italy, Costa Rica, and Uruguay. All would have 6 points. Since it Italy and Costa Rica both winning and losing 1 it's still just too much unknown to easily spell out what will happen. All possibilities still can happen as of now.

Italy loss, Costa Rica tie

1) and 2) will be Italy and Uruguay - order will be based on goal differential, then goals scored if still tied Uruguay would be placed 1st.

Italy loss, Costa Rica loss

1) and 2) will be Italy and Uruguay - order will be based on goal differential, then goals scored if still tied Uruguay would be placed 1st.

Okay now back to the 3-way tie where Uruguay, Costa Rica, and England are all 1-2.

England's goal differential will be -1 or better.

Uruguay's goal differential will be -2 or worse.

Costa Rica's goal differential will be even or worse.

Based on the above, Uruguay cannot win the 3-way tie. It's down to England and Costa Rica. As mentioned up thread when you look at things England really does have a viable path.

Costa Rica would get the 2nd spot in this case with a loss by exactly 1 to England and a loss by exactly 1 to Italy.

Costa Rica would get the 2nd spot in this case with a loss by exactly 1 to England and a loss by exactly 2 to Italy and Costa Rica scores at least 1 goal vs Italy.

Finally, England would get the 2nd place spot if:

1) England beats Costa Rica by exactly 2 or more, Italy defeats Costa Rica, and Italy defeats Uruguay

or

2) England beats Costa Rica by exactly 1, Italy defeats Costa Rica by 3 or more, and Italy defeats Uruguay

or

3) England beats Costa Rica by exactly 1, and Italy defeats Costa Rica by the exact score of 2-0.

So there you go :)

:nerd: :grad: :nerd:

-QG

 
Cote D'Ivoire
It's stupid, but this annoys the hell out of me. You don't see Germany insisting they be referred to as Deutschland or Italy as Italia and so on.Boy that Ελλάδα v 日本 game was no fun to watch tonight.
I agree with your greater point. I brought this up with my GF today. I feel very uncomfortable saying "You're a guay" and I feel weird hearing it. Yet, I feel slightly pretentious saying "Uw'er-guay". I just can't can't bring myself to mispronounce it to appease my audience. Although, at times, I do say "Gy-rose" instead of the "Heeros" when I knew I'm surrounded by a bunch of chets who don't understand the beauty of a ground lamb and pita sammich. And I always feel dirty about it.

I also like typing Brasil instead of Brazil when I feel the occasion calls for it.

ETA: and I always say Are Gen Tina when I'm speaking English. I never go Arhentina on anyone. But I still hate You're A Guay soooo much.

It isn't completely black and white.

 
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I love me a Negroni, but for breakfast?

Then Belinis for afternoon? Sure, if I have too.

And I've got nothing for the last game.

Thoughts?

 
Cote D'Ivoire
It's stupid, but this annoys the hell out of me. You don't see Germany insisting they be referred to as Deutschland or Italy as Italia and so on.Boy that Ελλάδα v 日本 game was no fun to watch tonight.
Cote D'Ivoire gets away with it because it sounds badass IMO.--QG
:greatposting:

I'll go Côte d'Ivoire when I can, I'll also throw in an Italia, and Brasil, and an occasional España. Rare that Deutschland gets used, but I would not be offended.

 
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Woz> you suck
Sorry guys. That damn Uruguayan dude is quick.
What he showed today is why I think he is truly in the conversation with Messi and CRonaldo for best player in the world right now.
He isn't a guy that the entire team focusses on shutting out, yet. Maybe he should be, but right now, he isn't. He still finds sneaky openings (to his credit). Messi and Ronaldo are double to trill teamed every time they are near an opening. Especially Messi since he plays directly in the middle. Makes it much easier to collapse on him at every touch. I think that is way Ronaldo likes to line up on the sideline.
Agreed. Suarez is a classic finisher in the highest sense, but of what I have seen (maybe those that watch more can correct me) he isn't a creator. He doesn't control and set-up like the other guys do.
He led the EPL in assists last year. He's a brilliant distributor of the ball.

 
I was in a bar full of England supporters. I don't think there is any better schadenfreude than watching England collapse with a bunch of England fans.

ETA: if you're into that sort of thing.
Sounds like the time I was in a bar for the Barcelona/ManU final a few years back. So much anger and disbelief.

 
Norman Paperman said:
QuizGuy66 said:
Mjolnirs said:
QuizGuy66 said:
Cote D'Ivoire
It's stupid, but this annoys the hell out of me. You don't see Germany insisting they be referred to as Deutschland or Italy as Italia and so on.Boy that Ελλάδα v 日本 game was no fun to watch tonight.
Cote D'Ivoire gets away with it because it sounds badass IMO.--QG
:greatposting:

I'll go Côte d'Ivoire when I can, I'll also throw in an Italia, and Brasil, and an occasional España. Rare that Deutschland gets used, but I would not be offended.
I get that and you'll see me use Deutschland in here on gamedays. Look for it tomorrow. I make a point of writing and saying Bayern München instead of Bayern Munich, and I use umlauts when typing Müller, Özil and others. My gripe is that they have convinced FIFA to only refer to them in the French.A history/memory quiz. We're all used to seeing the three letter abbreviation for the different countries; CIV for Ivory Coast (see what I did), GER for Germany, ESP for Spain and so on. West Germany and East Germany ... who remembers how they used to be displayed?

 
TenTimes said:
Native said:
You know I don't even care that this game sucks because there's nothing like having 8 consecutive hours of soccer everyday for 2-3 weeks. Throw in a US win to keep it interesting for the home side and it just doesn't get better than this.

:beer:
I'm not a soccer watcher, and I love the summer olympics, but eventually the world cup is going to take over as my favorite sporting event. There's too much to like.
The suspense is just so much fun. I couldn't care less about who won the Uruguay/England game, but damn was that back/forth at the end a ton of fun to watch.

 
I get that and you'll see me use Deutschland in here on gamedays. Look for it tomorrow. I make a point of writing and saying Bayern München instead of Bayern Munich, and I use umlauts when typing Müller, Özil and others. My gripe is that they have convinced FIFA to only refer to them in the French.A history/memory quiz. We're all used to seeing the three letter abbreviation for the different countries; CIV for Ivory Coast (see what I did), GER for Germany, ESP for Spain and so on. West Germany and East Germany ... who remembers how they used to be displayed?
East was something like GDR, right (I'm pretty sure there was an 'R' somewhere in their for Republic)? Never made any sense since we were all tought the East German's were communists

 
In answer to the Germany question:

GDR is right for East. FRG was the West. German Democratic Republic and Federal Republic of Germany as I recall.

Now can you name the abbreviation used for the old Soviet Uniion?

-QG
 
In answer to the Germany question:

GDR is right for East. FRG was the West. German Democratic Republic and Federal Republic of Germany as I recall.

Now can you name the abbreviation used for the old Soviet Uniion?

-QG

BRD = Bundesrepublik Deutschland (former west Germany, "FRG" in English)

DDR = Deutsche Demokratische Republik (former East Germany, "GRD" in English)
 
In answer to the Germany question:

GDR is right for East. FRG was the West. German Democratic Republic and Federal Republic of Germany as I recall.

Now can you name the abbreviation used for the old Soviet Uniion?

-QG

Correct. In German they were DDR and BRDSoviet Union? The first thing that comes to mind is USR (Union of Soviet Republics), but for some reason, maybe because FIFA and the IOC do things in French and stuff gets backward, it may have been URS.
 

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