This strategy will lose out to anyone who guessed the two Superbowl teams correctly. I wouldn't recommend it.The more I keep thinking about it the more I like leveraging the multipliers vs picking an accurate bracket.
The Bengals, Bills, and Chiefs feel like rock, paper, scissors and I'm giving the Eagles a slight bump but I could easily see the 49ers or Cowboys in the SB.
Thank you @TheWinz for posting the PPG for the top 24. That's what I was thinking when I went into my crazy idea of spreading those guys out across the entire bracket. So here it is the crazy idea lineup.
In the Wildcard round, you have:
Austin Ekeler - RB - LAC
Tyreek Hill - WR - MIA
Justin Jefferson - WR - MIN
Saquon Barkley - RB - NYG
Geno Smith - QB - SEA
Mike Evans - WR - TB
In the Divisional round (points multiplied by 2), you have:
Trevor Lawrence - QB - JAX
Justin Herbert - QB - LAC
Kirk Cousins - QB - MIN
Daniel Jones - QB - NYG
George Kittle - TE - SF
Tom Brady - QB - TB
In the Championship round (points multiplied by 3), you have:
Stefon Diggs - WR - BUF
Ja'Marr Chase - WR - CIN
CeeDee Lamb - WR - DAL
Travis Kelce - TE - KC
A.J. Brown - WR - PHI
Christian McCaffrey - RB - SF
In the Super Bowl (points multiplied by 5), you have:
Josh Allen - QB - BUF
Joe Burrow - QB - CIN
Dak Prescott - QB - DAL
Patrick Mahomes - QB - KC
Jalen Hurts - QB - PHI
Brock Purdy - QB - SF
This is great and very sound advice!! Nice read..Basic strategy, if you want to win a big contest like this one, is you have to hit big. With this contest that means having no zeros, or almost no zeros (especially not in the later rounds). Which means that you need to think about the playoff bracket, because (e.g.) if you have players from more than two teams in the Super Bowl then you're guaranteeing that you'll have zeros in the 5x round, which will make it basically impossible to win against rosters who have the same active Super Bowl players as you plus others.
Problem: there are 4,096 possible playoff brackets. And we'd all really like to have better than a 1/4096 chance of winning this thing. Two main ways you can increase your chances of fitting the bracket in a way that avoids zeros:
1. Mostly pick favorites. Playoff brackets where favorites mostly win have more like a 1/200 chance of happening, which is a lot better than 1/4096.
2. Skip over some games. e.g. if you don't pick any TB or DAL players outside the wildcard round, then you aren't relying on either team to win, so you've roughly doubled your chances of getting the bracket right.
The big downside of Skipping Games is that you get fewer quarterbacks. You'll have to use a non-QB from another team instead of Brady or Prescott in the divisional round. On average you can expect that to hurt you compared to rosters that made the right call on TB vs. DAL (although there's still a chance it could help you, e.g. if TB-DAL is a shootout and then the winning offense gets stifled in the divisional round).
The big downside of Picking Favorites is that a lot of other people are likely to make the same picks. You need to differentiate your roster from other rosters in order to win, and if there are over a hundred rosters who have the same Super Bowl matchup and the same conference championship matchup as you then it'll be harder to come in first. If this thread is any indicator, people are going to lean very heavily on the favorites (e.g. 7 of 11 rosters have a KC-BUF-PHI-SF final four), so it's probably worth differentiating yourself by picking at least 1 underdog to make the conference championship, and maybe the Super Bowl. Combining this with a Skipped Game or two can still keep your bracket near the 1/200 range.
A second way to differentiate your team is by which players you pick. In this thread, people are leaning very heavily to the top players on each team, even when there are other options that haven't been scoring much worse. e.g., The 7 teams that have SF in the Super Bowl here have Super Bowl picks of: 7 CMC, 6 Kittle, 5 Purdy, 2 Aiyuk, 1 Deebo, 1 Gould, 0 any other Niners. That's very lopsided; Aiyuk chances of outscoring Kittle in a game are better than 2:6. If this holds up in the rest of the entries, that means that there is good value in differentiating yourself by picking players who are outside the team's obvious top 3 options, especially in the later rounds.
There's some balance to how much you differentiate yourself vs how much you sacrifice from other advantages. If you go heavy on the upsets, then you probably don't need to dig as deep on the players. If you go out on a limb with the players, like by taking Garoppolo at QB in the Super Bowl, then maybe it's okay to stick to the favorites and even skip some games. IMO the bare minimum that you should do to differentiate yourself is something like: one non-top-two team in the conference championship and two Aiyuk/Deebo type players in the Super Bowl.
I agree with most of this....but I would counter with:Basic strategy, if you want to win a big contest like this one, is you have to hit big. With this contest that means having no zeros, or almost no zeros (especially not in the later rounds). Which means that you need to think about the playoff bracket, because (e.g.) if you have players from more than two teams in the Super Bowl then you're guaranteeing that you'll have zeros in the 5x round, which will make it basically impossible to win against rosters who have the same active Super Bowl players as you plus others.
Problem: there are 4,096 possible playoff brackets. And we'd all really like to have better than a 1/4096 chance of winning this thing. Two main ways you can increase your chances of fitting the bracket in a way that avoids zeros:
1. Mostly pick favorites. Playoff brackets where favorites mostly win have more like a 1/200 chance of happening, which is a lot better than 1/4096.
2. Skip over some games. e.g. if you don't pick any TB or DAL players outside the wildcard round, then you aren't relying on either team to win, so you've roughly doubled your chances of getting the bracket right.
The big downside of Skipping Games is that you get fewer quarterbacks. You'll have to use a non-QB from another team instead of Brady or Prescott in the divisional round. On average you can expect that to hurt you compared to rosters that made the right call on TB vs. DAL (although there's still a chance it could help you, e.g. if TB-DAL is a shootout and then the winning offense gets stifled in the divisional round).
The big downside of Picking Favorites is that a lot of other people are likely to make the same picks. You need to differentiate your roster from other rosters in order to win, and if there are over a hundred rosters who have the same Super Bowl matchup and the same conference championship matchup as you then it'll be harder to come in first. If this thread is any indicator, people are going to lean very heavily on the favorites (e.g. 7 of 11 rosters have a KC-BUF-PHI-SF final four), so it's probably worth differentiating yourself by picking at least 1 underdog to make the conference championship, and maybe the Super Bowl. Combining this with a Skipped Game or two can still keep your bracket near the 1/200 range.
A second way to differentiate your team is by which players you pick. In this thread, people are leaning very heavily to the top players on each team, even when there are other options that haven't been scoring much worse. e.g., The 7 teams that have SF in the Super Bowl here have Super Bowl picks of: 7 CMC, 6 Kittle, 5 Purdy, 2 Aiyuk, 1 Deebo, 1 Gould, 0 any other Niners. That's very lopsided; Aiyuk chances of outscoring Kittle in a game are better than 2:6. If this holds up in the rest of the entries, that means that there is good value in differentiating yourself by picking players who are outside the team's obvious top 3 options, especially in the later rounds.
There's some balance to how much you differentiate yourself vs how much you sacrifice from other advantages. If you go heavy on the upsets, then you probably don't need to dig as deep on the players. If you go out on a limb with the players, like by taking Garoppolo at QB in the Super Bowl, then maybe it's okay to stick to the favorites and even skip some games. IMO the bare minimum that you should do to differentiate yourself is something like: one non-top-two team in the conference championship and two Aiyuk/Deebo type players in the Super Bowl.
Conceptually, sure, but I keep coming back to this notion that the skill position players I'd play instead have a better floor and median than backup QBs against playoff caliber defenses.We all know QB's outscore the other positions by a decent margin, but is anyone willing to start a Dolphin or Raven QB in Week 1?
So according to the rules, you could use say Josh Allen all the way through? I don't see any of the lineups posted that have any duplicate player. why not?I never really liked that "you can only count two players per NFL team, except in the super bowl, where everybody counts" rule. It was necessary but kludgey. Frankly, a lot of people over the years made entries that indicated that they might not have fully grasped the rules. So I tried to maintain the same spirit while simplifying things.
Here is the rules summary:
- You will select six players for each round of the playoffs, a total of 24 players. No positional requirements or salary caps. Take any players you want.
- Each player's fantasy points are doubled in the Divisional round, tripled in the Championship round, and quintupled (i.e. multiplied by five) in the Super Bowl. The winner is the contestant who accrues the most total points across all four rounds of the playoffs.
- The entry deadline is Saturday, January 14 at 4:30 PM ET. That is, you must select all your players for all rounds before the start of the playoffs.
I'm hoping to be able to do a soft launch tonight or tomorrow morning.
So according to the rules, you could use say Josh Allen all the way through? I don't see any of the lineups posted that have any duplicate player. why not?I never really liked that "you can only count two players per NFL team, except in the super bowl, where everybody counts" rule. It was necessary but kludgey. Frankly, a lot of people over the years made entries that indicated that they might not have fully grasped the rules. So I tried to maintain the same spirit while simplifying things.
Here is the rules summary:
- You will select six players for each round of the playoffs, a total of 24 players. No positional requirements or salary caps. Take any players you want.
- Each player's fantasy points are doubled in the Divisional round, tripled in the Championship round, and quintupled (i.e. multiplied by five) in the Super Bowl. The winner is the contestant who accrues the most total points across all four rounds of the playoffs.
- The entry deadline is Saturday, January 14 at 4:30 PM ET. That is, you must select all your players for all rounds before the start of the playoffs.
I'm hoping to be able to do a soft launch tonight or tomorrow morning.
And the contest entry form UI makes it super obvious and user friendly.So according to the rules, you could use say Josh Allen all the way through? I don't see any of the lineups posted that have any duplicate player. why not?
Because you can only play each guy once. It is in the full rules:
"For each of your 24 players, your team will count that player's scores in ONLY ONE round of the NFL playoffs. If you select Kirk Cousins in the wildcard round, then you don't get his points in any of the other three rounds of the playoffs"
-QG
Thank you, I missed that. I was going off the rules that Contest Turk posted. Should have read the actual rulesSo according to the rules, you could use say Josh Allen all the way through? I don't see any of the lineups posted that have any duplicate player. why not?I never really liked that "you can only count two players per NFL team, except in the super bowl, where everybody counts" rule. It was necessary but kludgey. Frankly, a lot of people over the years made entries that indicated that they might not have fully grasped the rules. So I tried to maintain the same spirit while simplifying things.
Here is the rules summary:
- You will select six players for each round of the playoffs, a total of 24 players. No positional requirements or salary caps. Take any players you want.
- Each player's fantasy points are doubled in the Divisional round, tripled in the Championship round, and quintupled (i.e. multiplied by five) in the Super Bowl. The winner is the contestant who accrues the most total points across all four rounds of the playoffs.
- The entry deadline is Saturday, January 14 at 4:30 PM ET. That is, you must select all your players for all rounds before the start of the playoffs.
I'm hoping to be able to do a soft launch tonight or tomorrow morning.
Because you can only play each guy once. It is in the full rules:
"For each of your 24 players, your team will count that player's scores in ONLY ONE round of the NFL playoffs. If you select Kirk Cousins in the wildcard round, then you don't get his points in any of the other three rounds of the playoffs"
-QG
I LOVE the new format as well. The old version felt like closing your eyes and throwing darts more than anything. Felt like a random number generator might have as good a chance as anyone else. That said, I never put as much time/thought/effort into these Contests as some of the diehards here!I'm probably finished tweaking my roster....
Side Note: What do you guys think of the new format this year??
Personally, I love it. Kudos to FBGuys staff for this innovative format, which I believe has increased interest in the playoff contest.
I left out one player I wanted in, and have one player in a positon that I'm not crazy about,
but I can't seem to come up with a solution.
So, this is probably what I'm going with....
In the Wildcard round, you have these players:
Dak Prescott - QB - DAL
Trevor Lawrence - QB - JAX
Austin Ekeler - RB - LAC
Kirk Cousins - QB - MIN
Geno Smith - QB - SEA
Tom Brady - QB - TB
In the Divisional round (points multiplied by 2), you have these players:
Josh Allen - QB - BUF
Stefon Diggs - WR - BUF
Joe Burrow - QB - CIN
Ja'Marr Chase - WR - CIN
T.J. Hockenson - TE - MIN
George Kittle - TE - SF
In the Championship round (points multiplied by 3), you have these players:
Devin Singletary - RB - BUF
Dawson Knox - TE - BUF
Jalen Hurts - QB - PHI
Brock Purdy - QB - SF
Christian McCaffrey - RB - SF
Brandon Aiyuk - WR - SF
In the Super Bowl (points multiplied by 5), you have these players:
Patrick Mahomes - QB - KC
Jerick McKinnon - RB - KC
Travis Kelce - TE - KC
A.J. Brown - WR - PHI
DeVonta Smith - WR - PHI
Dallas Goedert - TE - PHI
and for the same entry, why not have Goedert and Jalen Hurts switch to get the higher Hurts multiplier?I LOVE the new format as well. The old version felt like closing your eyes and throwing darts more than anything. Felt like a random number generator might have as good a chance as anyone else. That said, I never put as much time/thought/effort into these Contests as some of the diehards here!I'm probably finished tweaking my roster....
Side Note: What do you guys think of the new format this year??
Personally, I love it. Kudos to FBGuys staff for this innovative format, which I believe has increased interest in the playoff contest.
I left out one player I wanted in, and have one player in a positon that I'm not crazy about,
but I can't seem to come up with a solution.
So, this is probably what I'm going with....
In the Wildcard round, you have these players:
Dak Prescott - QB - DAL
Trevor Lawrence - QB - JAX
Austin Ekeler - RB - LAC
Kirk Cousins - QB - MIN
Geno Smith - QB - SEA
Tom Brady - QB - TB
In the Divisional round (points multiplied by 2), you have these players:
Josh Allen - QB - BUF
Stefon Diggs - WR - BUF
Joe Burrow - QB - CIN
Ja'Marr Chase - WR - CIN
T.J. Hockenson - TE - MIN
George Kittle - TE - SF
In the Championship round (points multiplied by 3), you have these players:
Devin Singletary - RB - BUF
Dawson Knox - TE - BUF
Jalen Hurts - QB - PHI
Brock Purdy - QB - SF
Christian McCaffrey - RB - SF
Brandon Aiyuk - WR - SF
In the Super Bowl (points multiplied by 5), you have these players:
Patrick Mahomes - QB - KC
Jerick McKinnon - RB - KC
Travis Kelce - TE - KC
A.J. Brown - WR - PHI
DeVonta Smith - WR - PHI
Dallas Goedert - TE - PHI
2 questions about your Lineup:
1) no Hurts? I assume that’s the player you wanted in?
2) if you think Buffalo gets to the championship game, why wouldnt you swap the likely-higher-scoring Allen with Singletary or Knox to hopefully take advantage of the bigger multiplier?
curious…
Hurts is in there - week 3. I wanted Justin Jefferson in but would have put him in week 1. Doing that would mean moving someone from week 1 to week 2 that might be eliminated in week 1. I have Allen in week 2.I LOVE the new format as well. The old version felt like closing your eyes and throwing darts more than anything. Felt like a random number generator might have as good a chance as anyone else. That said, I never put as much time/thought/effort into these Contests as some of the diehards here!I'm probably finished tweaking my roster....
Side Note: What do you guys think of the new format this year??
Personally, I love it. Kudos to FBGuys staff for this innovative format, which I believe has increased interest in the playoff contest.
I left out one player I wanted in, and have one player in a positon that I'm not crazy about,
but I can't seem to come up with a solution.
So, this is probably what I'm going with....
In the Wildcard round, you have these players:
Dak Prescott - QB - DAL
Trevor Lawrence - QB - JAX
Austin Ekeler - RB - LAC
Kirk Cousins - QB - MIN
Geno Smith - QB - SEA
Tom Brady - QB - TB
In the Divisional round (points multiplied by 2), you have these players:
Josh Allen - QB - BUF
Stefon Diggs - WR - BUF
Joe Burrow - QB - CIN
Ja'Marr Chase - WR - CIN
T.J. Hockenson - TE - MIN
George Kittle - TE - SF
In the Championship round (points multiplied by 3), you have these players:
Devin Singletary - RB - BUF
Dawson Knox - TE - BUF
Jalen Hurts - QB - PHI
Brock Purdy - QB - SF
Christian McCaffrey - RB - SF
Brandon Aiyuk - WR - SF
In the Super Bowl (points multiplied by 5), you have these players:
Patrick Mahomes - QB - KC
Jerick McKinnon - RB - KC
Travis Kelce - TE - KC
A.J. Brown - WR - PHI
DeVonta Smith - WR - PHI
Dallas Goedert - TE - PHI
2 questions about your Lineup:
1) no Hurts? I assume that’s the player you wanted in?
2) if you think Buffalo gets to the championship game, why wouldnt you swap the likely-higher-scoring Allen with Singletary or Knox to hopefully take advantage of the bigger multiplier?
curious…
Yeah. Sorry. I just corrected my post when I realized I missed Hurts in week 3.Hurts is in there - week 3. I wanted Justin Jefferson in but would have put him in week 1. Doing that would mean moving someone from week 1 to week 2 that might be eliminated in week 1. I have Allen in week 2.I LOVE the new format as well. The old version felt like closing your eyes and throwing darts more than anything. Felt like a random number generator might have as good a chance as anyone else. That said, I never put as much time/thought/effort into these Contests as some of the diehards here!I'm probably finished tweaking my roster....
Side Note: What do you guys think of the new format this year??
Personally, I love it. Kudos to FBGuys staff for this innovative format, which I believe has increased interest in the playoff contest.
I left out one player I wanted in, and have one player in a positon that I'm not crazy about,
but I can't seem to come up with a solution.
So, this is probably what I'm going with....
In the Wildcard round, you have these players:
Dak Prescott - QB - DAL
Trevor Lawrence - QB - JAX
Austin Ekeler - RB - LAC
Kirk Cousins - QB - MIN
Geno Smith - QB - SEA
Tom Brady - QB - TB
In the Divisional round (points multiplied by 2), you have these players:
Josh Allen - QB - BUF
Stefon Diggs - WR - BUF
Joe Burrow - QB - CIN
Ja'Marr Chase - WR - CIN
T.J. Hockenson - TE - MIN
George Kittle - TE - SF
In the Championship round (points multiplied by 3), you have these players:
Devin Singletary - RB - BUF
Dawson Knox - TE - BUF
Jalen Hurts - QB - PHI
Brock Purdy - QB - SF
Christian McCaffrey - RB - SF
Brandon Aiyuk - WR - SF
In the Super Bowl (points multiplied by 5), you have these players:
Patrick Mahomes - QB - KC
Jerick McKinnon - RB - KC
Travis Kelce - TE - KC
A.J. Brown - WR - PHI
DeVonta Smith - WR - PHI
Dallas Goedert - TE - PHI
2 questions about your Lineup:
1) no Hurts? I assume that’s the player you wanted in?
2) if you think Buffalo gets to the championship game, why wouldnt you swap the likely-higher-scoring Allen with Singletary or Knox to hopefully take advantage of the bigger multiplier?
curious…
Hurts is in there - week 3. I wanted Justin Jefferson in but would have put him in week 1. Doing that would mean moving someone from week 1 to week 2 that might be eliminated in week 1. I have Allen in week 2.I LOVE the new format as well. The old version felt like closing your eyes and throwing darts more than anything. Felt like a random number generator might have as good a chance as anyone else. That said, I never put as much time/thought/effort into these Contests as some of the diehards here!I'm probably finished tweaking my roster....
Side Note: What do you guys think of the new format this year??
Personally, I love it. Kudos to FBGuys staff for this innovative format, which I believe has increased interest in the playoff contest.
I left out one player I wanted in, and have one player in a positon that I'm not crazy about,
but I can't seem to come up with a solution.
So, this is probably what I'm going with....
In the Wildcard round, you have these players:
Dak Prescott - QB - DAL
Trevor Lawrence - QB - JAX
Austin Ekeler - RB - LAC
Kirk Cousins - QB - MIN
Geno Smith - QB - SEA
Tom Brady - QB - TB
In the Divisional round (points multiplied by 2), you have these players:
Josh Allen - QB - BUF
Stefon Diggs - WR - BUF
Joe Burrow - QB - CIN
Ja'Marr Chase - WR - CIN
T.J. Hockenson - TE - MIN
George Kittle - TE - SF
In the Championship round (points multiplied by 3), you have these players:
Devin Singletary - RB - BUF
Dawson Knox - TE - BUF
Jalen Hurts - QB - PHI
Brock Purdy - QB - SF
Christian McCaffrey - RB - SF
Brandon Aiyuk - WR - SF
In the Super Bowl (points multiplied by 5), you have these players:
Patrick Mahomes - QB - KC
Jerick McKinnon - RB - KC
Travis Kelce - TE - KC
A.J. Brown - WR - PHI
DeVonta Smith - WR - PHI
Dallas Goedert - TE - PHI
2 questions about your Lineup:
1) no Hurts? I assume that’s the player you wanted in?
2) if you think Buffalo gets to the championship game, why wouldnt you swap the likely-higher-scoring Allen with Singletary or Knox to hopefully take advantage of the bigger multiplier?
curious…
Note @SeniorVBDStudent ’s post as well about swapping Hurts with another PHI player you have in later rounds. Same premise.Hurts is in there - week 3. I wanted Justin Jefferson in but would have put him in week 1. Doing that would mean moving someone from week 1 to week 2 that might be eliminated in week 1. I have Allen in week 2.I LOVE the new format as well. The old version felt like closing your eyes and throwing darts more than anything. Felt like a random number generator might have as good a chance as anyone else. That said, I never put as much time/thought/effort into these Contests as some of the diehards here!I'm probably finished tweaking my roster....
Side Note: What do you guys think of the new format this year??
Personally, I love it. Kudos to FBGuys staff for this innovative format, which I believe has increased interest in the playoff contest.
I left out one player I wanted in, and have one player in a positon that I'm not crazy about,
but I can't seem to come up with a solution.
So, this is probably what I'm going with....
In the Wildcard round, you have these players:
Dak Prescott - QB - DAL
Trevor Lawrence - QB - JAX
Austin Ekeler - RB - LAC
Kirk Cousins - QB - MIN
Geno Smith - QB - SEA
Tom Brady - QB - TB
In the Divisional round (points multiplied by 2), you have these players:
Josh Allen - QB - BUF
Stefon Diggs - WR - BUF
Joe Burrow - QB - CIN
Ja'Marr Chase - WR - CIN
T.J. Hockenson - TE - MIN
George Kittle - TE - SF
In the Championship round (points multiplied by 3), you have these players:
Devin Singletary - RB - BUF
Dawson Knox - TE - BUF
Jalen Hurts - QB - PHI
Brock Purdy - QB - SF
Christian McCaffrey - RB - SF
Brandon Aiyuk - WR - SF
In the Super Bowl (points multiplied by 5), you have these players:
Patrick Mahomes - QB - KC
Jerick McKinnon - RB - KC
Travis Kelce - TE - KC
A.J. Brown - WR - PHI
DeVonta Smith - WR - PHI
Dallas Goedert - TE - PHI
2 questions about your Lineup:
1) no Hurts? I assume that’s the player you wanted in?
2) if you think Buffalo gets to the championship game, why wouldnt you swap the likely-higher-scoring Allen with Singletary or Knox to hopefully take advantage of the bigger multiplier?
curious…
Good call, Thanks! I missed that one...
Thank you, I missed that. I was going off the rules that Contest Turk posted. Should have read the actual rulesSo according to the rules, you could use say Josh Allen all the way through? I don't see any of the lineups posted that have any duplicate player. why not?I never really liked that "you can only count two players per NFL team, except in the super bowl, where everybody counts" rule. It was necessary but kludgey. Frankly, a lot of people over the years made entries that indicated that they might not have fully grasped the rules. So I tried to maintain the same spirit while simplifying things.
Here is the rules summary:
- You will select six players for each round of the playoffs, a total of 24 players. No positional requirements or salary caps. Take any players you want.
- Each player's fantasy points are doubled in the Divisional round, tripled in the Championship round, and quintupled (i.e. multiplied by five) in the Super Bowl. The winner is the contestant who accrues the most total points across all four rounds of the playoffs.
- The entry deadline is Saturday, January 14 at 4:30 PM ET. That is, you must select all your players for all rounds before the start of the playoffs.
I'm hoping to be able to do a soft launch tonight or tomorrow morning.
Because you can only play each guy once. It is in the full rules:
"For each of your 24 players, your team will count that player's scores in ONLY ONE round of the NFL playoffs. If you select Kirk Cousins in the wildcard round, then you don't get his points in any of the other three rounds of the playoffs"
-QG
NoWe all know QB's outscore the other positions by a decent margin, but is anyone willing to start a Dolphin or Raven QB in Week 1?
The latter Imo.Thank you, I missed that. I was going off the rules that Contest Turk posted. Should have read the actual rulesSo according to the rules, you could use say Josh Allen all the way through? I don't see any of the lineups posted that have any duplicate player. why not?I never really liked that "you can only count two players per NFL team, except in the super bowl, where everybody counts" rule. It was necessary but kludgey. Frankly, a lot of people over the years made entries that indicated that they might not have fully grasped the rules. So I tried to maintain the same spirit while simplifying things.
Here is the rules summary:
- You will select six players for each round of the playoffs, a total of 24 players. No positional requirements or salary caps. Take any players you want.
- Each player's fantasy points are doubled in the Divisional round, tripled in the Championship round, and quintupled (i.e. multiplied by five) in the Super Bowl. The winner is the contestant who accrues the most total points across all four rounds of the playoffs.
- The entry deadline is Saturday, January 14 at 4:30 PM ET. That is, you must select all your players for all rounds before the start of the playoffs.
I'm hoping to be able to do a soft launch tonight or tomorrow morning.
Because you can only play each guy once. It is in the full rules:
"For each of your 24 players, your team will count that player's scores in ONLY ONE round of the NFL playoffs. If you select Kirk Cousins in the wildcard round, then you don't get his points in any of the other three rounds of the playoffs"
-QG
@Mr.Pack it's always a tough balance between making that rules summary concise and making it clear. Do you think If it had said, "a total of 24 different players," would that have made it clearer? Or should I go ahead and put in an extra bullet point that says, "a given player can count in only one round"?
Thanks for the feeback!
No but I did start 6 QBs in the 1st round. Then I started 6 players in the 2nd round that were guaranteed to be playing. I haven't seen anyone else go that route. Wrong strategy?We all know QB's outscore the other positions by a decent margin, but is anyone willing to start a Dolphin or Raven QB in Week 1?
And if you check any afc qb in the super bowl that isn’t Mahomes, the audio makes a snarky comment at youAnd the contest entry form UI makes it super obvious and user friendly.So according to the rules, you could use say Josh Allen all the way through? I don't see any of the lineups posted that have any duplicate player. why not?
Because you can only play each guy once. It is in the full rules:
"For each of your 24 players, your team will count that player's scores in ONLY ONE round of the NFL playoffs. If you select Kirk Cousins in the wildcard round, then you don't get his points in any of the other three rounds of the playoffs"
-QG
Each player has 4 columns of check boxes, 1 per round. When you click, say, on Josh Allen’s box to use him in the Super Bowl, then the other 3 check marks in his row for the other rounds disappear so you can’t use him in any other round.
Very nicely done by the FBG team!
I think everyone should read the rules! But the summary could have had something like, a player can only be used once. Something like that. Anyway. it's on me, not you. Thanks!Thank you, I missed that. I was going off the rules that Contest Turk posted. Should have read the actual rulesSo according to the rules, you could use say Josh Allen all the way through? I don't see any of the lineups posted that have any duplicate player. why not?I never really liked that "you can only count two players per NFL team, except in the super bowl, where everybody counts" rule. It was necessary but kludgey. Frankly, a lot of people over the years made entries that indicated that they might not have fully grasped the rules. So I tried to maintain the same spirit while simplifying things.
Here is the rules summary:
- You will select six players for each round of the playoffs, a total of 24 players. No positional requirements or salary caps. Take any players you want.
- Each player's fantasy points are doubled in the Divisional round, tripled in the Championship round, and quintupled (i.e. multiplied by five) in the Super Bowl. The winner is the contestant who accrues the most total points across all four rounds of the playoffs.
- The entry deadline is Saturday, January 14 at 4:30 PM ET. That is, you must select all your players for all rounds before the start of the playoffs.
I'm hoping to be able to do a soft launch tonight or tomorrow morning.
Because you can only play each guy once. It is in the full rules:
"For each of your 24 players, your team will count that player's scores in ONLY ONE round of the NFL playoffs. If you select Kirk Cousins in the wildcard round, then you don't get his points in any of the other three rounds of the playoffs"
-QG
@Mr.Pack it's always a tough balance between making that rules summary concise and making it clear. Do you think If it had said, "a total of 24 different players," would that have made it clearer? Or should I go ahead and put in an extra bullet point that says, "a given player can count in only one round"?
Thanks for the feeback!
any confusion about how the rules were written were quickly and easily dispelled by going to the entry form...but yes you could have said 24 different players or alternatively noted in bold that each players score only counted once. it was already in your rules, but I confess I didn't realize that it was one score per player until I got to the entry form.Thank you, I missed that. I was going off the rules that Contest Turk posted. Should have read the actual rulesSo according to the rules, you could use say Josh Allen all the way through? I don't see any of the lineups posted that have any duplicate player. why not?I never really liked that "you can only count two players per NFL team, except in the super bowl, where everybody counts" rule. It was necessary but kludgey. Frankly, a lot of people over the years made entries that indicated that they might not have fully grasped the rules. So I tried to maintain the same spirit while simplifying things.
Here is the rules summary:
- You will select six players for each round of the playoffs, a total of 24 players. No positional requirements or salary caps. Take any players you want.
- Each player's fantasy points are doubled in the Divisional round, tripled in the Championship round, and quintupled (i.e. multiplied by five) in the Super Bowl. The winner is the contestant who accrues the most total points across all four rounds of the playoffs.
- The entry deadline is Saturday, January 14 at 4:30 PM ET. That is, you must select all your players for all rounds before the start of the playoffs.
I'm hoping to be able to do a soft launch tonight or tomorrow morning.
Because you can only play each guy once. It is in the full rules:
"For each of your 24 players, your team will count that player's scores in ONLY ONE round of the NFL playoffs. If you select Kirk Cousins in the wildcard round, then you don't get his points in any of the other three rounds of the playoffs"
-QG
@Mr.Pack it's always a tough balance between making that rules summary concise and making it clear. Do you think If it had said, "a total of 24 different players," would that have made it clearer? Or should I go ahead and put in an extra bullet point that says, "a given player can count in only one round"?
Thanks for the feeback!
@Contest Turk is the clock off? I also just did a change and it took (its only 3:43 EST but entry says 4:43 EST)....By the way, it's saying I submitted an entry at 4:04 EST (It was 12:04 PST), so the contest clock might be off. Just something to be aware of. We might only have twenty minutes to get changes in.
You have the same SB teams as me but 1 different player from each team. I think I'm going to have to score a bunch in first round and hope I didn't screw up in the 2nd with my picks it looks like I really went different than anyone else with those.This is what I've come up with. Any comments welcome.
In the Wildcard round, you have:
Travis Etienne - RB - JAX
Justin Herbert - QB - LAC
Justin Jefferson - WR - MIN
Daniel Jones - QB - NYG
Geno Smith - QB - SEA
Tom Brady - QB - TB
In the Divisional round (points multiplied by 2), you have:
Joe Burrow - QB - CIN
Ja'Marr Chase - WR - CIN
Dak Prescott - QB - DAL
CeeDee Lamb - WR - DAL
Trevor Lawrence - QB - JAX
Kirk Cousins - QB - MIN
In the Championship round (points multiplied by 3), you have:
Patrick Mahomes - QB - KC
Jerick McKinnon - RB - KC
Travis Kelce - TE - KC
Brock Purdy - QB - SF
Christian McCaffrey - RB - SF
George Kittle - TE - SF
In the Super Bowl (points multiplied by 5), you have:
Josh Allen - QB - BUF
James Cook - RB - BUF
Stefon Diggs - WR - BUF
Jalen Hurts - QB - PHI
A.J. Brown - WR - PHI
DeVonta Smith - WR - PHI
@Contest Turk is the clock off? I also just did a change and it took (its only 3:43 EST but entry says 4:43 EST)....By the way, it's saying I submitted an entry at 4:04 EST (It was 12:04 PST), so the contest clock might be off. Just something to be aware of. We might only have twenty minutes to get changes in.
Yup. Far inferior to the old contest were there were numerous strategies. The fact that we’ve seen only one K and 0 defenses tells you there are holes in this format. I really prefer a salary cap aspect that ends up weighting all the players somewhat equallySo far I've been seeing pretty much the same 24 players posted, give or take a few. It comes down to getting them put in the right rounds.
Agreed. On the other hand I now have much more time on my hands.Yup. Far inferior to the old contest were there were numerous strategies. The fact that we’ve seen only one K and 0 defenses tells you there are holes in this format. I really prefer a salary cap aspect that ends up weighting all the players somewhat equallySo far I've been seeing pretty much the same 24 players posted, give or take a few. It comes down to getting them put in the right rounds.
I think an accurate bracket is more important in this format. I had fun picking. I do like the salary cap format too.Yup. Far inferior to the old contest were there were numerous strategies. The fact that we’ve seen only one K and 0 defenses tells you there are holes in this format. I really prefer a salary cap aspect that ends up weighting all the players somewhat equallySo far I've been seeing pretty much the same 24 players posted, give or take a few. It comes down to getting them put in the right rounds.
Yeah, the way this is going to work out is kind of like a soccer tournament with a group stage and a knockout round.
STEP 1: in the first three rounds, you have to win the "mini-contest" consisting of all the teams who share your super bowl six. If you do that, then you get the honor of representing your mini-contest in the super bowl round.
STEP 2: in the super bowl, you're competing against the champions of all the other mini-contests, and you have to hope your super bowl six can hang on or catch up, as the case may be.
Is this saying that some teams will be officially eliminated after the 3rd round and only a subset of teams will compete for the prizes?