roadkill1292
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I'm with you, we need more of the bigger stars to take a visibly active role.I'm glad he conveniently decided that now is a good time to protest AFTER he lost his starting job. He doesn't care about anyone but himself.
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Pure Squistion Entertainment (formerly the Colin Kaepernick thread) (1 Viewer)
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Megaton
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FUBAR
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sure, and the guy who beat the #### out of someguy has the right to a fair trial, conviction and potentially jail time.
Huge difference between non-violently protesting even if it makes you look like an ###, and violently "protesting" the protest.
yep, pretty good oppression when he's making millions for playing a game. We have issues but it's much better here than in most nations.
squistion
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According to reports he had been doing this all preseason, this was the first time it was noticed by the press, so arguably he was still in the mix for the starting job when he began this form of protest.
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KCitons
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Not sure if this brought awareness to inequality. But it certainly brought attention to Kap. I didn't care about his opinion before he sat, I don't care about it now. My only thought when people don't stand for our country, or choose to stomp on the American flag, is that they need to remember people of all races and religions fought to defend what it stands for. When you choose to show disrespect, you show disrespect to them. Those bodies also laid in the streets, on the beaches, and in the jungles.
49ers need to wear a jersey like this all year:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Raiders-52-Khalil-Mack-Black-Mens-Stitched-Elite-USA-Flag-Fashion-Jersey-XL/272350204939?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D38618%26meid%3Da6927793b22d4843836da1b0f046d753%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D252411585102
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Raiders-52-Khalil-Mack-Black-Mens-Stitched-Elite-USA-Flag-Fashion-Jersey-XL/272350204939?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D38618%26meid%3Da6927793b22d4843836da1b0f046d753%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D252411585102
FUBAR
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PlasmaDogPlasma
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Is there a way we can arrange to get Ditka Butkus in a ring with Colin Kaepernick?
Ditka Butkus
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See the same bunch of liberal yucks support disrespect of country...
Donkey Derp
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He was benched last year for Gabbert and has been a locker room cancer for the last few years.
squistion
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And if someone were to burn that jersey, would they be guilty of burning the flag or flag desecration?
I am being facetious, but that is one of the reasons that the flag burning amendment to the Constitution never caught fire (so to speak). What constitutes a flag? Pretty obvious with Old Glory, but what about clothing or other merchanside that incorporates all the elements of the flag, the colors and the stars and bars? At what point does that become a flag, if it does?
I have a shirt that is a reworking of the flag, but I only wear on July 4th and even then sometimes I wonder if some zealot is going accuse me of disrespecting this country (hasn't happened yet, responses have all been positive to date).
Donkey Derp
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I wonder what his white parents who adopted him think of all this.
When I think of oppression, I certainly don't think of Kaepernick's story. His story is a great example of how great America can be - two people selflessly raise a stranger so he can achieve all the fame and success one could want. There are a lot of young babies who are abandoned by their father and put up for adoption by their under aged, unwed mother who don't have that opportunity - especially in other developing countries.
brun
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As an individual I don't care all that much as he was just sitting quietly on the bench. However, while wearing the uniform I would think the team would want him to represent the team in a different way.
I don't think of him as any kind of hero or particularly smart. So, I don't care about his opinion or views.
Not really sure why the Anthem needs to be played before an athletic event.
I don't think of him as any kind of hero or particularly smart. So, I don't care about his opinion or views.
Not really sure why the Anthem needs to be played before an athletic event.
squistion
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I doubt he does either. He was talking about "black people" and "people of color," or minorities in general, not that he individually has been oppressed.
When the Rams players came out with their hands up in response to the Ferguson events, the Rams publicly apologized for their actions and spoke to the players in private afterwards.
I find it interesting the different responses in each case.
It's sad how many Americans don't think we need the Anthem/pay respect to the flag.
squistion
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That was a different situation.
The Rams players were doing a form of active protest with their hands, plus, if IIRC, it was when they ran on the field, so no one could really miss it. Kaep was passively sitting and doing nothing else and in the other preseason games no one had really noticed (or at least the press hadn't).
honky kong
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I, for one, never said that. I just don't know why it needs to be a part of domestic sporting events.
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honky kong
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ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING!?! HOW DISRESPECTFUL!!! I CANT BELIEVE YOU HATE AMERICA LIKE THAT
Ditka Butkus
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I predict he'll be Abdula Mustafa Kaepernick by years end..
ShamrockPride
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Capella
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Parrothead
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if I were the coach I'd tell him that this is his only chance to get off the bench- don't blow it
JohnnyU
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FOX Sports' Jay Glazer reported Colin Kaepernick faces an "uphill battle" to make the 49ers' roster.
Glazer said he would be "shocked" if Kaepernick lasted the entire season on the 49ers' 53, and suggested Kap "may not even be on (the roster) in the next two weeks." All of Kaepernick's $11.9 million salary is guaranteed, but he has created a toxic situation by refusing to stand for pre-game National Anthems, which is Kaepernick's right but is frowned upon to put it mildly by most observers.
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Glazer said he would be "shocked" if Kaepernick lasted the entire season on the 49ers' 53, and suggested Kap "may not even be on (the roster) in the next two weeks." All of Kaepernick's $11.9 million salary is guaranteed, but he has created a toxic situation by refusing to stand for pre-game National Anthems, which is Kaepernick's right but is frowned upon to put it mildly by most observers.
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squistion
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If he did probably no one would have noticed.
Most casual fans couldn't even identify him as Peyton's backup at the time and his presence seemed almost superfluous.
You know this has no relation whatsoever to his stance on sitting during the anthem, yes? So why post this then?
avoiding injuries
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avoiding injuries
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And if he does, I hope he condemns the religion for oppressing women and gays.
timschochet
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You know I've heard a lot of black political types and celebrities this week get really pissed off over Donald Trump's portrayal of them: "You live in poverty, in war zones!" Etc. Isn't Kaepernick basically arguing the same thing here as Trump?
Black people still face racism in this country, especially from some police and the legal syatem. and slightly worse economic conditions as whites, but by and large things are not terrible for them. They're not seriously oppressed. Kaepernick, and Trump, are full of ####.
Black people still face racism in this country, especially from some police and the legal syatem. and slightly worse economic conditions as whites, but by and large things are not terrible for them. They're not seriously oppressed. Kaepernick, and Trump, are full of ####.
SaintsInDome2006
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Ministry of Pain
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And for those that are propping up CK, I feel strongly you are being anti- just for the sake of being that way. His entire team is pretty much fed up with him, haven't heard a lot of NFL players speaking out in support of him. Maybe that's untrue but I haven't seen big names backing him up.
I also won't find it shocking if he can't even find his way on to an NFL roster soon. Toxic? I wondered why he couldn't shake Blaine Gabbert but this guy is messed up in the head.
Ministry of Pain
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If we could lose the Trump analogy I could get behind this and am glad you don't feel blacks are being seriously oppressed. Not sure how I assumed you felt that way but good to read nonetheless.
timschochet
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Zegras11
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The article makes it seem like he's been heavily influenced by his GF/fiance. The guy is an idiot. There are much better ways for him to make a statement.
Zegras11
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ShamrockPride
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Coming from a wealthy white male who utilizes illegal minority labor to pad his own wallet.
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Good Posting Judge
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squistion
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No. Not even close to the same thing.
Although you have always been dismissive of it (as evidenced by your thread) the Black Lives Matter movement has resonated with a large segment of the African American community, so Kapernick is speaking to them, while Trump is seen as speaking down to them.
Not saying that all blacks agree with Kaep or how he went about it, but I doubt it is viewed in the same light as Trump's recent so called outreach to black voters.
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