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Shark Pool Mock #1 (1 Viewer)

Cleveland fans can feel free to start a petition to make me GM.
Love the overall strategy. Like the picks - not sure about Garappolo but I don't hate it (yet). Other than getting raped in the trade you're doing great (a team trading up from 7 to 4 for a QB is giving up at least a #2 this year or a #1 next with nothing else going back).

 
This is unexpected. :stalker:

2.53 Green Bay - Daquan Jones, DT - Penn St.

One of the biggest reasons for the Packers getting rolled last year was that their d-line was a wreck. Raji likely won't be back and the rest are mediocre. Jones was nearly dominant the last half of last season.
Reaction, Packers fans?

 
Broncos have sent a trade offer to the Eagles.
:popcorn:
We're trying to figure out what the right value would be here.

I'm thinking that it's a scenario close to what the McDaniels led Broncos did in 2010 when traded a 2010 first-round pick to the Seattle Seahawks for a 2009 second-round pick to select undersized cornerback Alphonso Smith.

Isn't that typically correct. A likely late 2015 1st is worth a late 2014 2nd, isn't it?

 
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Updated mock for the second round.

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SECOND ROUND

33 NY Giants - late225 (from Houston) - Fantasycurse42

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= DT Ra' Shede Hagerman

34 Washington - Bob Magaw
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= CB Bradley Roby

35 Cleveland- Soulfly3

- WR Sammy Watkins, OG David Yankey

= QB Jimmy Garoppolo

36 Oakland - krsone21

- QB Blake Bortles

= OG Su'a-Filo

37 Atlanta- Fatmanlittleboy
- OT Jake Mathews

= OLB Ryan Shazier

38 Cleveland- Soulfly3 (from Tampa Bay) - RJS113
- WR Sammy Watkins, OG David Yankey, QB Jimmy Garoppolo

= CB Marcus Roberson

39 Jacksonville- Mr. Brownstone
- QB Teddy Bridgewater

= DE/DT Stephon Tuit

40 Minnesota- Andy D
- OLB/DE Khalil Mack

= CB Kyle Fuller

41 Buffalo- deadlyrange0321
- TE Eric Ebron

= OT Antonio Richardson

42 Tennessee- FUBAR
- DE Anthony Barr

= RB Ka’deem Carey

43 NY Giants - Late225
- DT Ra' Shede Hagerman

= OLB Kyle Van Noy

44 St. Louis - Bob Magaw
- OT Greg Robertson, S Calvin Pryor

= FS/CB LaMarcus Joyner

45 Detroit- False Start
- WR Mike Evans

= OT Morgan Moses

46 Pittsburgh - BigSteelThrill
- CB Darqueze Dennard

= WR Jordan Mathews

47. Baltimore -
- OT Taylor Lewan

= WR Allen Robinson

48 Dallas - fantasycurse42
- DT Aaron Donald

= DE Scott Crichton

49 Chicago - IHEARTFF (from NY Jets)- Dr. Octopus
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= DT Ego Ferguson

50 Miami - MoveToSkypager
- OT Cyrus Kouandjio

= OG Gabe Jackson

51 NY Jets - Dr. Octopus (from Chicago)- IHEARTFF
- WR Marquise Lee

= S Dion Bailey

52 Arizona - Craig_miamiFL
- OG Zach Martin

= OLB Jeremiah Attoachu

53 Green Bay - Brewtown
- TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins

= DT Daquan Jones

54 Philadelphia - JetMaxx
- OLB/DE Dee Ford

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55 Cincinnati - ummich10
- S Ha-Ha Clinton-Dix

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56 Philadelphia - JetMaxx (from SF- The Fantasy Chef (from KC)- FUBAR
- OLB/DE Dee Ford

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57 San Diego - Ray Finkle
- DT Louis Nix

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58 New Orleans - lsutigers
- CB Jason Verrett

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59 Indianapolis - Deranged Hermit
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60 Carolina - tarheel1unc
- WR Kelvin Benjamin

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61 San Francisco - The Fantasy Chef
- CB Justin Gilbert

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62 New England - msudaisy26
- NT Timmy Jernigan

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63 Denver - Andy D
- DE Kony Ealy

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64 Seattle - Awful Waffle

- TE Jace Amaro

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Cleveland fans can feel free to start a petition to make me GM.
Love the overall strategy. Like the picks - not sure about Garappolo but I don't hate it (yet). Other than getting raped in the trade you're doing great (a team trading up from 7 to 4 for a QB is giving up at least a #2 this year or a #1 next with nothing else going back).
? Im not understanding. I did get his 2.06 pick

and still got the guy I was after

 
Cleveland fans can feel free to start a petition to make me GM.
Love the overall strategy. Like the picks - not sure about Garappolo but I don't hate it (yet). Other than getting raped in the trade you're doing great (a team trading up from 7 to 4 for a QB is giving up at least a #2 this year or a #1 next with nothing else going back).
? Im not understanding. I did get his 2.06 pick

and still got the guy I was after
didn't you also give a 3rd? that was the rapey part. I said I liked the strategy and the pick though.

 
If someone wants to take over for the Cardinals remainder of the draft, feel free.
I can take it over if you still need someone to cover it. You've already made a couple of good choices for ARI in the first couple rounds and hopefully I can do at least a serviceable job with the remainder. Hopefully taking over later will be just as much fun as having the team from the get-go.

 
This is unexpected. :stalker:

2.53 Green Bay - Daquan Jones, DT - Penn St.

One of the biggest reasons for the Packers getting rolled last year was that their d-line was a wreck. Raji likely won't be back and the rest are mediocre. Jones was nearly dominant the last half of last season.
Reaction, Packers fans?
Not a Packers fan, but NT was a need, and there is a pretty healthy drop off from Jones to next available NT.

 
Broncos have sent a trade offer to the Eagles.
:popcorn:
We're trying to figure out what the right value would be here.

I'm thinking that it's a scenario close to what the McDaniels led Broncos did in 2010 when traded a 2010 first-round pick to the Seattle Seahawks for a 2009 second-round pick to select undersized cornerback Alphonso Smith.

Isn't that typically correct. A likely late 2015 1st is worth a late 2014 2nd, isn't it?
Yes, it is conventional to pay a round higher next year for a pick this year, as the other team needs to wait a season.

A second for a second wouldn't account for that time value of the team getting their player a year early with a pick they didn't have.

CAR gave up a second in 2011 to NE (ended up 2.1) for a late third to pick Armanti Edwards in 2010.

* SF got OT Anthony Davis (1.11) with the DEN pick.

 
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2.54 Philadelphia Eagles select Ed Reynolds, S, Stanford

I liked a couple other safeties but Chip Kelly wants big players and Reynolds size at 6'2" will be an awesome fit next to last year's 5th round safety Earl Wolff. He has drawn comparisons to Vikings S Harrison Smith.

The trade with AD will be revisted at 56 if his interest remains but I am very intrigued by one remaining player.

 
Andy,

I wanted the Packers to select Kelcy Quarles, DT South Carolina at pick 53. Can you update and fix the draft?

Thanks - I did not want Daquon Jones.. I was stuck in a meeting at work....

Thanks,

Brewtown

 
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2.55 Bengals select Loucheiz Purifoy.

More help for the secondary.

Sorry for the lack of explanations. I'm still very new at evaluating players for real football instead of fantasy.

 
If someone wants to take over for the Cardinals remainder of the draft, feel free.
I can take it over if you still need someone to cover it. You've already made a couple of good choices for ARI in the first couple rounds and hopefully I can do at least a serviceable job with the remainder. Hopefully taking over later will be just as much fun as having the team from the get-go.
Thanks. Feel free to make picks. I likely won't be available through Noon EST for the next week & don't want to hold things up.

I'll be around as a backup if needed.

 
I have to try to not get pissed off because this is not real, but if it was, I'd be really pissed off if the Giants trade away the chance (twice) at some great offensive lineman to pick up a couple defensive players. Had some great talent fall right to us in the 1st and traded it away for lower tier talent in a position that had less of a need as well.

 
I have to try to not get pissed off because this is not real, but if it was, I'd be really pissed off if the Giants trade away the chance (twice) at some great offensive lineman to pick up a couple defensive players. Had some great talent fall right to us in the 1st and traded it away for lower tier talent in a position that had less of a need as well.
I guess that's what happens when an Eagles fan drafts for the Giants. :yes:

 
This is unexpected. :stalker:

2.53 Green Bay - Daquan Jones, DT - Penn St.

One of the biggest reasons for the Packers getting rolled last year was that their d-line was a wreck. Raji likely won't be back and the rest are mediocre. Jones was nearly dominant the last half of last season.
Reaction, Packers fans?
the logic of the pick is reasonable. IF the Pack do not resign some of their FA (which, btw, are ALL OF THEIR FREAKING STARTERS), then they are going to have to draft some

 
Andy,

I wanted the Packers to select Kelcy Quarles, DT South Carolina at pick 53. Can you update and fix the draft?

Thanks - I did not want Daquon Jones.. I was stuck in a meeting at work....

Thanks,

Brewtown
not of fan of kelcy for the pack. most project him for a 4-3 d, not a 3-4d. Imho, Jones is a better widebody dtackle in a 3-4 def

 
honestly, Brewtown has drafted two picks the pack WILL NEVER TAKE.

They are not takeing a TE in R1, and they are not taking a guy built for a 4-3 defense in round 2 (or 1, for that matter). Perhaps in later rounds as a project, but why take freaking projects early?

 
honestly, Brewtown has drafted two picks the pack WILL NEVER TAKE.

They are not takeing a TE in R1, and they are not taking a guy built for a 4-3 defense in round 2 (or 1, for that matter). Perhaps in later rounds as a project, but why take freaking projects early?
It's just for fun.

 
I have to try to not get pissed off because this is not real, but if it was, I'd be really pissed off if the Giants trade away the chance (twice) at some great offensive lineman to pick up a couple defensive players. Had some great talent fall right to us in the 1st and traded it away for lower tier talent in a position that had less of a need as well.
I guess that's what happens when an Eagles fan drafts for the Giants. :yes:
Haha I bet our offensive line looked just dandy to you guys this year.

 
I have to try to not get pissed off because this is not real, but if it was, I'd be really pissed off if the Giants trade away the chance (twice) at some great offensive lineman to pick up a couple defensive players. Had some great talent fall right to us in the 1st and traded it away for lower tier talent in a position that had less of a need as well.
I guess that's what happens when an Eagles fan drafts for the Giants. :yes:
Haha I bet our offensive line looked just dandy to you guys this year.
I think you guys pick up a guard or center in free agency and draft Levan if he fails. I think Richardson is the best tackle for their passing game though - and I just missed him by two picks in round 2.

 
2.56 Philadelphia Eagles select Brandin Cooks, WR, Oregon State

This pick and the offer from AD had me perplexed but adding an elite talent like Cooks was too much to resist. BPA drafting here. Cooks is not in the "big player" mold that Kelly has espoused but he is dynamic talent that will be added to the mix with Foles, McCoy, DJax, Ertz, Celek, et all. I envision Cooks making a big impact as a rookie, first on special teams and in select play packages then transitioning into a much bigger threat from the slot than Avant ever was. A more dynamic Randall Cobb.

1.30 Dee Ford, OLB

2.54 Ed Reynolds, S

2.56 Brandin Cooks, WR

 
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2.57 San Diego Chargers select Trevor Reilly - OLB - Utah

With Gabe Jackson off the board and Brandin Cooks going right before me I will continue to upgrade the defense by taking an OLB.

 
With the 58th pick of the 2nd round, the New Orleans Saints select Jack Mewhort, OT, Ohio State

After going CB in the first, was looking at several OLB, two WR's and some combo G/C and OT's here. Greer, Vilma and Will Smith and Harper are toast. Still going under assumption that Graham gets resigned (as a TE), De La Puente gets resigned and Strief is gone. G's are studs, LT is a project but young. Need a player on the strong side. Like his versatility. Mewhort sounds a bit like Kyle Turley. We'll take those guys any day of the week down here in NO.

NFL.com - Overview

Started in 38 of 49 career games played. Has played left guard, right guard and left tackle in college career. 2013: Third-team All-American and second-team All-Big Ten pick after playing in 14 games and starting 13 at left tackle. 2012: Honorable mention All-Big Ten selection after starting all 12 games at left tackle. 2011: Honorable mention All-Big Ten selection after starting all 13 games (five starts at left guard and eight at right guard). 2010: Played in 10 games. 2009: Redshirted. Misc.: Lost scholarship for summer of 2012 after being arrested and pleading guilty to disorderly conduct for public urination and running from the police (along with TE Jake Stoneburner).

Strengths Good size. Engages with urgency. Reestablishes the line of scrimmage in the run game. Can drive block, widen the hole and seal lanes. Stout base -- good anchor strength. Plays with a load in his hands to jar defenders. Locks on and controls. Good enough feet to slide and mirror. Alert to stunts and blitzes. Versatile. Has an ideal temperament for the trenches -- breathes fire. Smart, tough and competitive. Three-year starter. Is passionate about the game and works at his craft. Highly respected vocal leader and team captain.

Weaknesses Has a soft midsection. Stronger than he is explosive. Lacks ideal length and foot quickness for the left side (not a dancing bear). Vulnerable to strong bull rush when he gets tall and narrow-based. Occasionally gets top-heavy and slips off blocks. Average blocking range. Tight hips and ankles show when he pulls or climbs to the second level. Struggles to cut off fast-flowing linebackers. Lets his pads rise outside the phone booth.

Bottom Line Thickly built, physical, highly competitive lineman who manned left tackle competently in college, but is better suited for the right side in the pros. Has starter-caliber strength, athleticism and technique supplemented with desirable intangibles. Versatility to play guard or left tackle in a pinch adds to value.

 
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2.56 Philadelphia Eagles select Brandin Cooks, WR, Oregon State

This pick and the offer from AD had me perplexed but adding an elite talent like Cooks was too much to resist. BPA drafting here. Cooks is not in the "big player" mold that Kelly has espoused but he is dynamic talent that will be added to the mix with Foles, McCoy, DJax, Ertz, Celek, et all. I envision Cooks making a big impact as a rookie, first on special teams and in select play packages then transitioning into a much bigger threat from the slot than Avant ever was. A more dynamic Randall Cobb.

1.30 Dee Ford, OLB

2.54 Ed Reynolds, S

2.56 Brandin Cooks, WR
Maclin and Cooper are both FAs, so I think taking a WR is a good idea. I don't think Cooks is a bad idea, but with so many prototypically sized WRs, I expect Kelly to go after one of them. It's not because I don't think Cooks will be good, but because I expect Kelly to appreciate a bigger and better run blocking WR like Bryant or Adams.

 
STL #44 - Florida St. FS/CB Lamarcus Joyner

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000308431/article/florida-state-db-lamarcus-joyner-offers-unrivaled-versatility

More reinforcements for the STL defensive weak link, the secondary. A top 3 safety, but one of the best nickel CBs in the nation, an increasingly important position. He will upgrade that position for the Rams. Another tone setter like Robinson and Pryor, he reminds me of a combination of the Honey Badger, Bob Sanders and Antoine Winfield, and is one of the best pound-for-pound players and tacklers in the draft.

Fisher and Snead have doubled up on trouble positions several times already in just their first two drafts. At WR (Quick and Givens) and CB (Jenkins and Johnson) for three starters in 2012, and WR again (Austin and Bailey) in 2013.

* Would have taken Van Noy if he lasted one more pick.
This dude has great instincts and incredibly sticky hands. I love his attitude on the field.
He is undersized at 5'8" 190 lbs., but I think the Honey Badger (5'9" 185 lbs.) is a fair comparison. He went in the early third, but obviously had a ton of character and off field red flags that Joyner doesn't. Despite missing three games (and only starting about 2/3 of the season), he had 65 tackles, 1 sack, 2 INTs and 1 FF. Started at nickel CB, ended up starting at FS, and made an impact for a top 10 defense.

Bob Sanders was also 5'8" (but about 15 lbs. heavier). Troy Polamalu and Earl Thomas both about 5'10" but proportionate at about 15-10 lbs. heavier. All three were reportedly in the 4.3 range, and both Sanders/Polamalu had a freakish 40"+ VJ. Sanders was great but could only play more than six games twice (he wrote too many checks with tackles his body couldn't cash eventually). In his Defensive Player of the Year Super Bowl season, that was a below average bottom 10 defense that was top 3-5 when he was in the lineup, huge difference maker that unfortunately couldn't make a difference often due to chronic injuries. Polamalu is an 8 X Pro Bowler and 5 X All Pro. Thomas is a 3 X Pro Bowler, and deserved serious consideration for Defensive Player of the Year. Antoine Winfield was a 3 X Pro Bowler and probably the best pound-for-pound tackler I've seen in the past few decades. He was only 5'9" 180 lbs. (maybe he was an extraterrestial who had his skeleton reengineered with material from the core of a dwarf star? :) ).

I don't think Joyner is quite the athlete some of these predecessors are (not expecting a 4.3 and 40"+ VJ), but he is a playmaker. I think his 5 sacks might have led the nation among DBs?

I wonder if wider understanding and appreciation of the success of Russell Wilson on offense, will spill over to the other side of the ball, and lead to a relaxation of rigid triangle number positional prototypes/templates on defense, as well?

 
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2.56 Philadelphia Eagles select Brandin Cooks, WR, Oregon State

This pick and the offer from AD had me perplexed but adding an elite talent like Cooks was too much to resist. BPA drafting here. Cooks is not in the "big player" mold that Kelly has espoused but he is dynamic talent that will be added to the mix with Foles, McCoy, DJax, Ertz, Celek, et all. I envision Cooks making a big impact as a rookie, first on special teams and in select play packages then transitioning into a much bigger threat from the slot than Avant ever was. A more dynamic Randall Cobb.

1.30 Dee Ford, OLB

2.54 Ed Reynolds, S

2.56 Brandin Cooks, WR
Maclin and Cooper are both FAs, so I think taking a WR is a good idea. I don't think Cooks is a bad idea, but with so many prototypically sized WRs, I expect Kelly to go after one of them. It's not because I don't think Cooks will be good, but because I expect Kelly to appreciate a bigger and better run blocking WR like Bryant or Adams.
I know what you are getting at but run blocking WR in the 2nd round of this draft? No thanks. I can find one later if necessary. I want my early draft picks to bring something special/elite to the table and I feel I did that with each selection. To the posters who questioned passing on Gilbert in the trade down, would you rather have a top CB in Gilbert or top edge pass rusher in Ford AND a 6'2" safety with range in Reynolds?
 
Not a huge Cooks fan, but if there is somewhere that he would make a big impact, it is Philly.
If cooks wasn't the right receiver who would you have taken?
I said he would be a good fit in Philly. Kick returns, runs, fake reverses, deep threat, screens, etc. New plays nobody has even thought of.

But there are probably another 2-3 WR I like better that are still available. I'll let you know when they go.

 
Not a huge Cooks fan, but if there is somewhere that he would make a big impact, it is Philly.
If cooks wasn't the right receiver who would you have taken?
I said he would be a good fit in Philly. Kick returns, runs, fake reverses, deep threat, screens, etc. New plays nobody has even thought of. But there are probably another 2-3 WR I like better that are still available. I'll let you know when they go.
Very secretive ....... I can't wait

 
2.56 Philadelphia Eagles select Brandin Cooks, WR, Oregon State

This pick and the offer from AD had me perplexed but adding an elite talent like Cooks was too much to resist. BPA drafting here. Cooks is not in the "big player" mold that Kelly has espoused but he is dynamic talent that will be added to the mix with Foles, McCoy, DJax, Ertz, Celek, et all. I envision Cooks making a big impact as a rookie, first on special teams and in select play packages then transitioning into a much bigger threat from the slot than Avant ever was. A more dynamic Randall Cobb.

1.30 Dee Ford, OLB2.54 Ed Reynolds, S2.56 Brandin Cooks, WR
Maclin and Cooper are both FAs, so I think taking a WR is a good idea. I don't think Cooks is a bad idea, but with so many prototypically sized WRs, I expect Kelly to go after one of them. It's not because I don't think Cooks will be good, but because I expect Kelly to appreciate a bigger and better run blocking WR like Bryant or Adams.
I know what you are getting at but run blocking WR in the 2nd round of this draft? No thanks. I can find one later if necessary. I want my early draft picks to bring something special/elite to the table and I feel I did that with each selection. To the posters who questioned passing on Gilbert in the trade down, would you rather have a top CB in Gilbert or top edge pass rusher in Ford AND a 6'2" safety with range in Reynolds?
Would much rather have Gilbert than Ford and cooks. Like the Reynolds pick though. Too many Wrs available and passing on the best shut down corner with size when it's a major need is a mistake IMO.

There is a Lb that played with Reynolds that I really like and can play the run and pass better than Ford.

 
2.56 Philadelphia Eagles select Brandin Cooks, WR, Oregon State

This pick and the offer from AD had me perplexed but adding an elite talent like Cooks was too much to resist. BPA drafting here. Cooks is not in the "big player" mold that Kelly has espoused but he is dynamic talent that will be added to the mix with Foles, McCoy, DJax, Ertz, Celek, et all. I envision Cooks making a big impact as a rookie, first on special teams and in select play packages then transitioning into a much bigger threat from the slot than Avant ever was. A more dynamic Randall Cobb.

1.30 Dee Ford, OLB

2.54 Ed Reynolds, S

2.56 Brandin Cooks, WR
Maclin and Cooper are both FAs, so I think taking a WR is a good idea. I don't think Cooks is a bad idea, but with so many prototypically sized WRs, I expect Kelly to go after one of them. It's not because I don't think Cooks will be good, but because I expect Kelly to appreciate a bigger and better run blocking WR like Bryant or Adams.
I know what you are getting at but run blocking WR in the 2nd round of this draft? No thanks. I can find one later if necessary. I want my early draft picks to bring something special/elite to the table and I feel I did that with each selection. To the posters who questioned passing on Gilbert in the trade down, would you rather have a top CB in Gilbert or top edge pass rusher in Ford AND a 6'2" safety with range in Reynolds?
Not a run blocking WR. I good WR that can run block. Many people think the 2 guys I mentioned are as good if not better NFL prospects than Cooks to start with. So if they are well rounded WRs, and can do what Cooks does but better, why not? It's not like Adams can do nothing but block. That's silly. He can be a great WR.

 

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