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Deranged Hermit hasn't been on since 2:30 pm today. I did PM him at 3:19 PM. So it has been a while now. I'm not in a big hurry though.

 
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2.56 Philadelphia Eagles select Brandin Cooks, WR, Oregon State

This pick and the offer from AD had me perplexed but adding an elite talent like Cooks was too much to resist. BPA drafting here. Cooks is not in the "big player" mold that Kelly has espoused but he is dynamic talent that will be added to the mix with Foles, McCoy, DJax, Ertz, Celek, et all. I envision Cooks making a big impact as a rookie, first on special teams and in select play packages then transitioning into a much bigger threat from the slot than Avant ever was. A more dynamic Randall Cobb.

1.30 Dee Ford, OLB2.54 Ed Reynolds, S2.56 Brandin Cooks, WR
Maclin and Cooper are both FAs, so I think taking a WR is a good idea. I don't think Cooks is a bad idea, but with so many prototypically sized WRs, I expect Kelly to go after one of them. It's not because I don't think Cooks will be good, but because I expect Kelly to appreciate a bigger and better run blocking WR like Bryant or Adams.
I know what you are getting at but run blocking WR in the 2nd round of this draft? No thanks. I can find one later if necessary. I want my early draft picks to bring something special/elite to the table and I feel I did that with each selection. To the posters who questioned passing on Gilbert in the trade down, would you rather have a top CB in Gilbert or top edge pass rusher in Ford AND a 6'2" safety with range in Reynolds?
Would much rather have Gilbert than Ford and cooks. Like the Reynolds pick though. Too many Wrs available and passing on the best shut down corner with size when it's a major need is a mistake IMO.

There is a Lb that played with Reynolds that I really like and can play the run and pass better than Ford.
Fair enough. Gilbert is good but there's a reason he's projected to go in the back of the first round. I'd rather have multiple assets. The LB you speak of is another Barwin, ok vs run, ok vs pass but zero burst from the edge rushing the QB. For this team, I need pass rushers first and foremost so I'm not picking a Barwin clone in the first two rounds.
 
I don't know who to pick for Indy.
Daniel Jeremiah of NFL.com listed the top three needs of all 32 teams.

Here is the Colts top 3 needs:

Team needs: Interior OL, WR, LB

Analysis: Upgrading the offensive line is the No. 1 priority. There should be plenty of quality interior linemen available in the middle rounds.

 
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2.56 Philadelphia Eagles select Brandin Cooks, WR, Oregon State

This pick and the offer from AD had me perplexed but adding an elite talent like Cooks was too much to resist. BPA drafting here. Cooks is not in the "big player" mold that Kelly has espoused but he is dynamic talent that will be added to the mix with Foles, McCoy, DJax, Ertz, Celek, et all. I envision Cooks making a big impact as a rookie, first on special teams and in select play packages then transitioning into a much bigger threat from the slot than Avant ever was. A more dynamic Randall Cobb.

1.30 Dee Ford, OLB2.54 Ed Reynolds, S2.56 Brandin Cooks, WR
Maclin and Cooper are both FAs, so I think taking a WR is a good idea. I don't think Cooks is a bad idea, but with so many prototypically sized WRs, I expect Kelly to go after one of them. It's not because I don't think Cooks will be good, but because I expect Kelly to appreciate a bigger and better run blocking WR like Bryant or Adams.
I know what you are getting at but run blocking WR in the 2nd round of this draft? No thanks. I can find one later if necessary. I want my early draft picks to bring something special/elite to the table and I feel I did that with each selection. To the posters who questioned passing on Gilbert in the trade down, would you rather have a top CB in Gilbert or top edge pass rusher in Ford AND a 6'2" safety with range in Reynolds?
Would much rather have Gilbert than Ford and cooks. Like the Reynolds pick though. Too many Wrs available and passing on the best shut down corner with size when it's a major need is a mistake IMO.

There is a Lb that played with Reynolds that I really like and can play the run and pass better than Ford.
Fair enough. Gilbert is good but there's a reason he's projected to go in the back of the first round. I'd rather have multiple assets. The LB you speak of is another Barwin, ok vs run, ok vs pass but zero burst from the edge rushing the QB. For this team, I need pass rushers first and foremost so I'm not picking a Barwin clone in the first two rounds.
I wouldn't draft him in the first two rounds either. I would take a barwin clone every draft though. If it wasn't for the Sr. Bowl I don't think you touch Ford. Gilbert is a day one starter for a secondary that scorched. Can't imagine passing on him.

 
Updated mock for the second round.

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SECOND ROUND

33 NY Giants - late225 (from Houston) - Fantasycurse42

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= DT Ra' Shede Hagerman

34 Washington - Bob Magaw

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= CB Bradley Roby

35 Cleveland- Soulfly3

- WR Sammy Watkins, OG David Yankey

= QB Jimmy Garoppolo

36 Oakland - krsone21

- QB Blake Bortles

= OG Su'a-Filo

37 Atlanta- Fatmanlittleboy

- OT Jake Mathews

= OLB Ryan Shazier

38 Cleveland- Soulfly3 (from Tampa Bay) - RJS113

- WR Sammy Watkins, OG David Yankey, QB Jimmy Garoppolo

= CB Marcus Roberson

39 Jacksonville- Mr. Brownstone

- QB Teddy Bridgewater

= DE/DT Stephon Tuit

40 Minnesota- Andy D

- OLB/DE Khalil Mack

= CB Kyle Fuller

41 Buffalo- deadlyrange0321

- TE Eric Ebron

= OT Antonio Richardson

42 Tennessee- FUBAR

- DE Anthony Barr

= RB Ka’deem Carey

43 NY Giants - Late225

- DT Ra' Shede Hagerman

= OLB Kyle Van Noy

44 St. Louis - Bob Magaw

- OT Greg Robertson, S Calvin Pryor

= FS/CB LaMarcus Joyner

45 Detroit- False Start

- WR Mike Evans

= OT Morgan Moses

46 Pittsburgh - BigSteelThrill

- CB Darqueze Dennard

= WR Jordan Mathews

47. Baltimore -

- OT Taylor Lewan

= WR Allen Robinson

48 Dallas - fantasycurse42

- DT Aaron Donald

= DE Scott Crichton

49 Chicago - IHEARTFF (from NY Jets)- Dr. Octopus

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= DT Ego Ferguson

50 Miami - MoveToSkypager

- OT Cyrus Kouandjio

= OG Gabe Jackson

51 NY Jets - Dr. Octopus (from Chicago)- IHEARTFF

- WR Marquise Lee

= S Dion Bailey

52 Arizona - Craig_miamiFL

- OG Zach Martin

= OLB Jeremiah Attoachu

53 Green Bay - Brewtown

- TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins

= DT Daquan Jones

54 Philadelphia - JetMaxx

- OLB/DE Dee Ford

= S Ed Reynolds

55 Cincinnati - ummich10

- S Ha-Ha Clinton-Dix

= CB Loucheiz Purifoy

56 Philadelphia - JetMaxx (from SF- The Fantasy Chef (from KC)- FUBAR

- OLB/DE Dee Ford

= S Ed Reynolds, WR Brandin Cooks

57 San Diego - Ray Finkle

- DT Louis Nix

= OLB Trevor Reilly

58 New Orleans - lsutigers

- CB Jason Verrett

= OT Jack Mewhort

59 Indianapolis - Deranged Hermit

-

= C Travis Swanson

60 Carolina - tarheel1unc

- WR Kelvin Benjamin

= OT James Hurst

61 San Francisco - The Fantasy Chef

- CB Justin Gilbert

= WR Jarvis Landry

62 New England - msudaisy26

- NT Timmy Jernigan

=

63 Denver - Andy D

- DE Kony Ealy

=

64 Seattle - Awful Waffle

- TE Jace Amaro

=
 
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2.57 Carolina picks James Hurst LT UNC

A capable four year starter at Carolina. Broke his leg in the Belk Bowl last year but has shown no ill effects. Much needed offensive line help ( hoping Gross stays one more year) Should still be able to get a solid corner in the third round.

 
Not going to argue about Indy's needs. I like their WRs, and I think all the OL have tiered off. Bradshaw and Brown are both UFAs, but Swanson is pretty good.

 
Interesting that the fantasy oriented SP has allowed the RBs to appropriately slide. This class highlights the non prioritized position in the NFL now.

 
Buddy Ball 2K3 said:
JetMaxx said:
Buddy Ball 2K3 said:
JetMaxx said:
MoveToSkypager said:
JetMaxx said:
2.56 Philadelphia Eagles select Brandin Cooks, WR, Oregon State

This pick and the offer from AD had me perplexed but adding an elite talent like Cooks was too much to resist. BPA drafting here. Cooks is not in the "big player" mold that Kelly has espoused but he is dynamic talent that will be added to the mix with Foles, McCoy, DJax, Ertz, Celek, et all. I envision Cooks making a big impact as a rookie, first on special teams and in select play packages then transitioning into a much bigger threat from the slot than Avant ever was. A more dynamic Randall Cobb.

1.30 Dee Ford, OLB2.54 Ed Reynolds, S2.56 Brandin Cooks, WR
Maclin and Cooper are both FAs, so I think taking a WR is a good idea. I don't think Cooks is a bad idea, but with so many prototypically sized WRs, I expect Kelly to go after one of them. It's not because I don't think Cooks will be good, but because I expect Kelly to appreciate a bigger and better run blocking WR like Bryant or Adams.
I know what you are getting at but run blocking WR in the 2nd round of this draft? No thanks. I can find one later if necessary. I want my early draft picks to bring something special/elite to the table and I feel I did that with each selection. To the posters who questioned passing on Gilbert in the trade down, would you rather have a top CB in Gilbert or top edge pass rusher in Ford AND a 6'2" safety with range in Reynolds?
Would much rather have Gilbert than Ford and cooks. Like the Reynolds pick though. Too many Wrs available and passing on the best shut down corner with size when it's a major need is a mistake IMO.

There is a Lb that played with Reynolds that I really like and can play the run and pass better than Ford.
Fair enough. Gilbert is good but there's a reason he's projected to go in the back of the first round. I'd rather have multiple assets. The LB you speak of is another Barwin, ok vs run, ok vs pass but zero burst from the edge rushing the QB. For this team, I need pass rushers first and foremost so I'm not picking a Barwin clone in the first two rounds.
I wouldn't draft him in the first two rounds either. I would take a barwin clone every draft though. If it wasn't for the Sr. Bowl I don't think you touch Ford. Gilbert is a day one starter for a secondary that scorched. Can't imagine passing on him.
I respect your viewpoint. A question about the deal I was proposed by AD...with what was on the board would you have taken the '15 #1 for the Cooks pick? I was really torn by that offer as you can tell with the trade down previously.
 
With the 61st pick in the 2014 draft the San Francisco 49ers select

------Jarvis Landry----- WR LSU

Great hands not as polished as counter part Odell-Beckham Jr but route running can get better. Adams was a consideration here but I felt there is something special about this kid. With Cooks off the board I think Landry can play some slot and be a better fit this year immediately if they decide to keep Boldin which I think could happen.

Hitting another top need for San Fran before they hire me to replace the gm your welcome !

 
Interesting that the fantasy oriented SP has allowed the RBs to appropriately slide. This class highlights the non prioritized position in the NFL now.
I find it a little unlikely that it would go like this.

Five were taken in the second round last year. Was that the first time since the merger without at least one first round RB?

 
NE, DEN than SEA and the first two rounds are in the books. Looks like we have DEN and SEA in the house.

* and NE, too!

 
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The New Patriots select Ifo Ekpre-Olomu, CB , Oregon

I looked back through the picks and I am pretty sure he is available if not I will reselect. This fills a need for the Patriots with the odds stacked against them resigning Talib. I will admit the further we get in the draft the less I know about these players and I am drafting based more on need then BPA.

 
Interesting that the fantasy oriented SP has allowed the RBs to appropriately slide. This class highlights the non prioritized position in the NFL now.
I find it a little unlikely that it would go like this.Five were taken in the second round last year. Was that the first time since the merger without at least one first round RB?
I don't. It's a non distinct RB class in a year with great depth at other positions. They will drop into the 3rd.
 
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Were the five second round RBs last year highly distinct? Were they appreciably better than this class?

Some scouts do think there is some separation at the top with Hyde and Hill.

If there is great depth at other positions, that could lead to them dropping as well?

 
The New Patriots select Ifo Ekpre-Olomu, CB , Oregon

I looked back through the picks and I am pretty sure he is available if not I will reselect. This fills a need for the Patriots with the odds stacked against them resigning Talib. I will admit the further we get in the draft the less I know about these players and I am drafting based more on need then BPA.
Ifo went back to school for his senior year.
Belichick will find a way to use him anyhow.

 
The New Patriots select Ifo Ekpre-Olomu, CB , Oregon

I looked back through the picks and I am pretty sure he is available if not I will reselect. This fills a need for the Patriots with the odds stacked against them resigning Talib. I will admit the further we get in the draft the less I know about these players and I am drafting based more on need then BPA.
Ifo went back to school for his senior year.
Blah thanks for the update looking again

 
The New Patriots select Ifo Ekpre-Olomu, CB , Oregon

I looked back through the picks and I am pretty sure he is available if not I will reselect. This fills a need for the Patriots with the odds stacked against them resigning Talib. I will admit the further we get in the draft the less I know about these players and I am drafting based more on need then BPA.
Ifo went back to school for his senior year.
Belichick will find a way to use him anyhow.
Yeah as a strategist

drafting someone not in the draft is better than drafting someone twice.

Ill take Melvin Gordon Rb because I need him!!

 
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The New England Patriots select Troy Niklas with their 2nd round pick.

Obvious choice for the Patriots filling a need with Gronk's health concerns and Hernandez's mental concerns.

 
The New Patriots select Ifo Ekpre-Olomu, CB , Oregon

I looked back through the picks and I am pretty sure he is available if not I will reselect. This fills a need for the Patriots with the odds stacked against them resigning Talib. I will admit the further we get in the draft the less I know about these players and I am drafting based more on need then BPA.
Ifo went back to school for his senior year.
About right...someone needs to fill in for the Al Davis sector of the SP Mock draft.
 
Buddy Ball 2K3 said:
JetMaxx said:
Buddy Ball 2K3 said:
JetMaxx said:
MoveToSkypager said:
JetMaxx said:
2.56 Philadelphia Eagles select Brandin Cooks, WR, Oregon State

This pick and the offer from AD had me perplexed but adding an elite talent like Cooks was too much to resist. BPA drafting here. Cooks is not in the "big player" mold that Kelly has espoused but he is dynamic talent that will be added to the mix with Foles, McCoy, DJax, Ertz, Celek, et all. I envision Cooks making a big impact as a rookie, first on special teams and in select play packages then transitioning into a much bigger threat from the slot than Avant ever was. A more dynamic Randall Cobb.

1.30 Dee Ford, OLB2.54 Ed Reynolds, S2.56 Brandin Cooks, WR
Maclin and Cooper are both FAs, so I think taking a WR is a good idea. I don't think Cooks is a bad idea, but with so many prototypically sized WRs, I expect Kelly to go after one of them. It's not because I don't think Cooks will be good, but because I expect Kelly to appreciate a bigger and better run blocking WR like Bryant or Adams.
I know what you are getting at but run blocking WR in the 2nd round of this draft? No thanks. I can find one later if necessary. I want my early draft picks to bring something special/elite to the table and I feel I did that with each selection. To the posters who questioned passing on Gilbert in the trade down, would you rather have a top CB in Gilbert or top edge pass rusher in Ford AND a 6'2" safety with range in Reynolds?
Would much rather have Gilbert than Ford and cooks. Like the Reynolds pick though. Too many Wrs available and passing on the best shut down corner with size when it's a major need is a mistake IMO.

There is a Lb that played with Reynolds that I really like and can play the run and pass better than Ford.
Fair enough. Gilbert is good but there's a reason he's projected to go in the back of the first round. I'd rather have multiple assets. The LB you speak of is another Barwin, ok vs run, ok vs pass but zero burst from the edge rushing the QB. For this team, I need pass rushers first and foremost so I'm not picking a Barwin clone in the first two rounds.
I wouldn't draft him in the first two rounds either. I would take a barwin clone every draft though. If it wasn't for the Sr. Bowl I don't think you touch Ford. Gilbert is a day one starter for a secondary that scorched. Can't imagine passing on him.
I respect your viewpoint. A question about the deal I was proposed by AD...with what was on the board would you have taken the '15 #1 for the Cooks pick? I was really torn by that offer as you can tell with the trade down previously.
Would have been tough to trade completely out of this draft. Normally I would favor trading down and gathering picks in a deep draft like this. I just think the Eagles have such a need at CB that I couldnt pass on Gilbert. However if one of the top two CB's arent there I really hope they do trade out.

 
Will format in a minute...

Broncos take

2. 63 - Davante Adams, WR -Fresno St
If you're going to run 3 wide sets, you need more than 2 WRs on the roster. I doubt they'll re-sign Decker. Adams is a red zone terror and might even be an eventual upgrade to what Decker was.

I was trying to decide between Cooks and Adams and an earlier pick made it easy for me.

 
With the 64th overall pick of the 2014 NFL Draft, the Seattle Seahawks select OG Cyril Richardson, Baylor.

Davante Adams was the pick, but he's gone and I don't like any of the outside receivers left at this spot. The OL for Seattle was pretty poor throughout the year. Interior pressure is a bother to all QB's, especially ones who already have to move around to create passing lanes. That gets even tougher with pass rushers in your face. Richardson struggled at the Senior Bowl, but he's still a mountain of a man who can create openings in the running game for Marshawn Lynch. Breno Giacomini is a free agent and could be upgraded, but I think an athletic QB like Wilson can avoid outside pass rushers easier than a typical pocket passer.

 
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Buddy Ball 2K3 said:
JetMaxx said:
Buddy Ball 2K3 said:
JetMaxx said:
MoveToSkypager said:
JetMaxx said:
2.56 Philadelphia Eagles select Brandin Cooks, WR, Oregon State

This pick and the offer from AD had me perplexed but adding an elite talent like Cooks was too much to resist. BPA drafting here. Cooks is not in the "big player" mold that Kelly has espoused but he is dynamic talent that will be added to the mix with Foles, McCoy, DJax, Ertz, Celek, et all. I envision Cooks making a big impact as a rookie, first on special teams and in select play packages then transitioning into a much bigger threat from the slot than Avant ever was. A more dynamic Randall Cobb.

1.30 Dee Ford, OLB2.54 Ed Reynolds, S2.56 Brandin Cooks, WR
Maclin and Cooper are both FAs, so I think taking a WR is a good idea. I don't think Cooks is a bad idea, but with so many prototypically sized WRs, I expect Kelly to go after one of them. It's not because I don't think Cooks will be good, but because I expect Kelly to appreciate a bigger and better run blocking WR like Bryant or Adams.
I know what you are getting at but run blocking WR in the 2nd round of this draft? No thanks. I can find one later if necessary. I want my early draft picks to bring something special/elite to the table and I feel I did that with each selection. To the posters who questioned passing on Gilbert in the trade down, would you rather have a top CB in Gilbert or top edge pass rusher in Ford AND a 6'2" safety with range in Reynolds?
Would much rather have Gilbert than Ford and cooks. Like the Reynolds pick though. Too many Wrs available and passing on the best shut down corner with size when it's a major need is a mistake IMO.

There is a Lb that played with Reynolds that I really like and can play the run and pass better than Ford.
Fair enough. Gilbert is good but there's a reason he's projected to go in the back of the first round. I'd rather have multiple assets. The LB you speak of is another Barwin, ok vs run, ok vs pass but zero burst from the edge rushing the QB. For this team, I need pass rushers first and foremost so I'm not picking a Barwin clone in the first two rounds.
I wouldn't draft him in the first two rounds either. I would take a barwin clone every draft though. If it wasn't for the Sr. Bowl I don't think you touch Ford. Gilbert is a day one starter for a secondary that scorched. Can't imagine passing on him.
I respect your viewpoint. A question about the deal I was proposed by AD...with what was on the board would you have taken the '15 #1 for the Cooks pick? I was really torn by that offer as you can tell with the trade down previously.
Would have been tough to trade completely out of this draft. Normally I would favor trading down and gathering picks in a deep draft like this. I just think the Eagles have such a need at CB that I couldnt pass on Gilbert. However if one of the top two CB's arent there I really hope they do trade out.
Persistent pressure and sacks will make any set of CBs look better.
 
Hey guys - Giants here - need to regroup as Hurst was my target.
If you want to stick with OL, maybe OG Dakota Dozier or C Weston Richburg? If you go the WR route I think Paul Richardson is BPA.

Edit: or a RB since there's a lot of good talent left there, and it looks like David Wilson is out for 2014 and Andre Brown is FA.

 
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