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Darn. It's my first year on this site and I didn't know about the contest until it was too late :kicksrock:
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Year 2 for me. Last year injuries hurt. And also stupidly selecting 3 tight ends with the same bye week! Got out pretty early (week 6 or 7, I believe).

Phillip Rivers $ 19

Brett Favre $ 18

Sam Bradford $ 9

I was shocked that Rivers was only 19 dollars. He is an elite qb with or without Vincent Jackson, and the Chargers upgraded at running back, which should only help. Also thought Favre was a solid value at 18. As long as he doesn't break, he will put up good stats. I could not decide what to do at # 3. I thought of Derek Anderson hard, but I believe he will not be the starter all year. I am very high on Bradford and believe he can put up a couple big games. All QB's have different byes.

Adrian Peterson $ 38

Matt Forte $ 20

CJ Spiller $17

Arian Foster $ 13

Leon Washington $ 8

Brandon Jackson $ 4

Rashad Jennings $ 3

Wanted a stud at rb, and Peterson fits the bill. Banking on him getting more action in the passing game. Debated between Ronnie Brown and Forte, and ended up with Forte. Foster was a no brainer at that price, and I like Spiller to put up nice receiving stats. If Washington is even 90 % to where he was, $8 is a steal. Took two backups, hoping to hit a home run. I like my top 5.

Pierre Garcon $ 12

Mike Thomas $ 11

Mike Williams (TB) $ 8

Dexter McCluster $ 7

Laurent Robinson $ 7

Sammie Stroughter $ 4

Louis Murphy $ 4

Deon Branch $ 3

Justin Gage $ 2

Didn't go for a stud here, and I need some breakouts, but for what I spent, I feel pretty good. I thought Branch at 3 and Murphy at 4 were great values. This area could be my downfall.

Zach Miller $15

Ben Watson $ 5

Aaron Hernandez $ 5

Probably should have went with an extra tight end, and Rob Gronkowski was the 4th for awhile, but switched it up late. Miller at 15 was great value now that he has an nfl caliber qb throwing the ball to him. Watson should put up nice stats in Cleveland, and I think Hernandez is going to be a weapon in New England.

Sebastian Janikowski $ 2

Matt Bryant $ 2

Rian Lindell $ 2

Jason Hanson $ 2

I had two kickers last year, and Phil Dawson was one of them. He was also hurt for several games. Not good. I decided to go with quantity here, and the only player I am really nervous about is Matt Bryant, who could get cut if he starts out shaky. All have different byes, so I need one kicker out of those 4 a week to have an above average game.

Cleveland $ 3

Tampa Bay $ 3

St. Louis $ 2

Detroit $ 2

Same thinking as with kickers. I picked 4 cheap defenses. One of those 4 needs to have an above average fantasy week per week.

 
Darn. It's my first year on this site and I didn't know about the contest until it was too late :lmao:
Sorry, gb :banned: But I will let you know that there are a couple of cool free contests on the board (offense/defense and survivor) in a couple of the threads on the board. Also, there (hopefully - as in they've done one every year) will be a playoff contest as well later on in the year.-QG
 
What I learned last year was you have to pick which teams will be in the Super Bowl, and have at least 6 players still going. I think last year's winner had 7. If you don't have at least one of the starting SB QB's, forget it. You'll need at least one of the RB's as well, and 2 WR's, maybe a PK and a D.

I think I finished at around 150 or so last year, but had no chance once the SB came around. This year I loaded up on the two teams I picked for the SB, and prefer to run the risk of being eliminated early rather than to just finish the race out of the prizes.

18 players, lots of Ravens and Packers.

 
What I learned last year was you have to pick which teams will be in the Super Bowl, and have at least 6 players still going. I think last year's winner had 7. If you don't have at least one of the starting SB QB's, forget it. You'll need at least one of the RB's as well, and 2 WR's, maybe a PK and a D. I think I finished at around 150 or so last year, but had no chance once the SB came around. This year I loaded up on the two teams I picked for the SB, and prefer to run the risk of being eliminated early rather than to just finish the race out of the prizes. 18 players, lots of Ravens and Packers.
The contest ends before the playoffs start.
 
Discussion points...rationalizing my team.

After many iterations, I grew tired of "buying" the risk of less than studly players unless they were available at a RIDICULOUS discount (Anderson, Morris, Tolbert, Devery Henderson, Rosario, Grodkowski all "made" my bench). So I went all in for studs.

QB

If you took one of the top 4 QBs, you are making the assumption that the guy you took will outperform Tom Brady by 20%.

RB

If you took one of the top 4 RBs, you are making the assumption that the guy you took will outperform Frank Gore by 10-20%.

Platooning Bradshaw and Foster at RB2...pretty common rostered players. My goal is for these guys to mimic a synthetic RB1.

WR

Discounting Fitzgerald, I saw 3 possible uber WRs: AJ, Moss and Wayne (I have the next few guys a touch lower in production).

Wayne and AJ share a bye, so I bought the cheaper 2 (Moss and Wayne).

Platooning OchoCinco and Driver at WR3. I was struck by the actual history of OchoCinco and Driver, and rejected the idea that these two are going to suffer from TO and Finley/JJones respectively. My goal is for these guys to mimic a synthetic WR1.

TE

Something like only 3.6% of entrants took Gates. Really? Really? I'm flabbergasted by this. Sure there are 15 guys you could pick who MIGHT match Gates but I'll take the best here. And no its not Finley. He's Donald Lee, Greg Olsen, Zack Miller, blah, blah, blah. Dont know him; don't care to. Wake me up after he's proven his worth.

Rosario. $4.

Grodkowski. See Mike Reiss and D Yudkin's projections. See Gronk dragging defenders into the end zone. Nuff said. Not only does Gronk score more TDs than Hernandez this year, he scores more TDs than Finley this year. There; I said it.

Flex: $0. Flex starter from platoons and bench.

Denver's kicker will have more field goals than anyone this year. Mark it down.

Ravens and 49ers. Dominant defenses on teams positioned to drum their opponents on a regular basis. Ravens to the superbowl and Niners winning their crappy division.

Love my team. Hope springs eternal.

 
I ran my contest entry team through the rate my team app (based on contest formatting) and got stellar commentary and feedback. For Dodds, Tremblay, Wood, and Henry, I got the following forecasts for making the playoffs with average in season management. Figure with this contest, there is no management. Your roster is what it is...no lineup decisions.

Dodds: 76% Tremblay: Lock Wood: 70% Henry: 84%

Now I know that the great majority of entries would likely garner this type of feedback since it is relatively easy to piece together good to great players at most of the positions. That said, I am enthused to see such a promising forecast. Here's hoping all stay healthy and play to ability.

 
I doubt many people are saying that the 18-player teams have zero chance of winning the contest. The above statistics from last year show that the largest teams (24 players) had more than 4 times the odds of making it to the final 250 than the smallest (20 and 21 player) teams - and 3 times the odds compared to the 22-player teams.

Some features of the contest are significantly different this year: (1) rosters from 18 up to 30 players are allowed, and (2) the dollar scale for players is compressed with lower values for the best players and substantial reduction of the number of $1 and $2 players.

Does this mean that the larger rosters still have a better chance of winning this year's contest than the smaller rosters? Time will tell I guess. My gut says yes. If you can find "value-players" who are likely to significantly outperform their $ costs, then it's a good strategy to load up with a bunch of value-players and a few studs.

Look at the low-priced WRs with upside:

Mike Williams, TB - $8

Nate Washington, TEN - $8

Bernard Berrian, MIN - $7

Chris Chambers, KC - $7

Laurent Robinson, STL - $7

Josh Morgan, SF - $6

Naanee, SD - $6

Brian Hartline - $6

Louis Murphy, OAK - $4

Deion Branch, SEA - $3

Shipley, CIN - $3

Justin Gage, TEN - $2

For the contest, would you be better off spending $25-30 on a single stud receiver -- or spreading that money out over 5-7 value-priced players? Although some will disagree, I think the answer is obvious.
:goodposting: I had 22 or 23 players last year and lasted pretty late, but this year is very different, with much cheaper studs and much more expensive lower-end players for the value. The shorter rosters last year probably didn't have many of the great $1-4 players that were common. This year, there are very few such bargains, so it's apples and oranges.

This year, I have only 18 players, but I have 4 of the above value WR's to go along with Andre Johnson and Welker. I also have Rodgers, Chris Johnson, Ray Rice, and Finley, so went with the stud theory combined with value. With less depth, I may be more susceptible during byes than a 26-player team, but if I can survive the bye weeks and the top guys stay healthy, I think I'll have a better chance of winning than most 26-player teams (projected #29 in week 1). Hopefully the rest of the studs and value players will make up for the studs on bye.

To win, you need to get lucky either by having your guys stay healthy, hitting on some lower-priced guys who turn out to perform like studs, or probably both. Just because last year higher-player teams had a higher chance of lasting to the final 250 doesn't mean this year's the same and those with 18-player rosters are clueless. I think the numbers will look different this year because of the changes, but many 18-player teams will still get knocked out during the bye weeks and because of injury. I think there's a good chance the winner, or many of the top 100, will have shorter rosters this year.
Man, good luck in week 10 with both Rodgers and Finley out - and the competition getting fierce at that point.Two WRs frequently mentioned are Calvin Johnson and Wes Welker. According to the latest projections (with ppr), they are projected at 275.1 points and 202.6 points for a total of 477.7 points. They cost a total of $48.

For a total of $48, you could get a total of 1,302 points from the following:

Mike Williams, TB - $8 [194.8 pts]

Nate Washington, TEN - $8 [147.3 pts]

Bernard Berrian, MIN - $7 [162.9 pts]

Laurent Robinson, STL - $7 [165.4 pts]

Brian Hartline - $6 [137.5 pts]

Louis Murphy, OAK - $4 [163.3 pts]

Deion Branch, SEA - $3 [121.4 pts]

Jordan Shipley, CIN - $3 [101.3 pts]

Justin Gage, TEN - $2 [ 108.4 pts]

Plus you get (1) a substantial amount of diversification, (2) insurance against injuries, (3) better coverage of the flex position, and (4) reduction of bye week problems. Unless the projections are flawed, it's a no-brainer. It's harder the find outright value-priced players at QB (except for Anderson) and at RB (except for Foster and maybe Leon Washington or Thomas Jones or Fred Taylor), but there are a lot of value-priced TEs. My conclusion is that the most effective strategy is to use all 30 roster slots and pack your lineup with value-priced players along with some selected studs.
Yeah, Week 10 will be my biggest hurdle, but lots of others have Rodgers or Finley or Brees or Mathew or Rivers, so the cutoff should be lower from that.I wish the guys in my auction draft thought like that -- the problem with your logic is you can't play those 9 guys against those 2 guys. You have to choose the best 2 from those 9 to go against 2 studs. They could do that, but the team with the 2 studs might also have some of those guys -- I have 4 of them, which addresses the 3 issues you mention. I'll take 2 players who score 24 points each in a week over 9 players who score 14 points each when you can only start 2 of them. Points on the bench don't count.

 
ctriopelle said:
Completely agree here, pricing of a top TE that should be a flex that should outscore a comparably priced WR2 was impossible to pass on. It also allowed me to only go 2 TE deep with a pile of WR's to cover the flex spot on byes. Maybe it has been this way in the past, but it just jumped out at me this year. I went 2QB/5RB/9WR/2TE/3PK/4DEF/25 total in my final iteration. I had a 29 player version on my first whack yesterday, but didn't feel the cheaper players would get me much meaningful scoring. 2QB is risky, but you have to make your stand somewhere. I also helped a friend with a team and went pure studs at 21 players, with 7 of those 21 being PK/DEF. If he stays healthy I like that team a lot to do some finals damage, but there is no room for injury error. Both submissions are top 150 this week, I take it that's a good sign, although my "less studly" team oddly has a higher rank than his. Must be the depth gave me more options across the sims.

FYI, it looks like OC and I won't be able to run the unofficial scoring site this year, the contest rule changes really posed some challenges to us to even get off the ground. Kinda sucks, as I enjoyed doing that as much as following my teams on Sundays. If anyone with serious web skills wants to PM me to see if we can figure out a workaround, feel free.
what does this comment mean? are there projected performances available somewhere?

 
3rd year for me, finished twenty something my 1st year and then got eliminated in week 13 last year. Overall strategy - not a big stud & dud fan, like to go for more players and hope some of the cheapies can deliver home runs. Also wanted to make sure a lot of the guys I got had good playoff schedules, if I make it that far I don't want to win $30, I want guys who have a chance to go off against some weaker defenses to try to get some big money.

Joe Flacco $17 0.00

Josh Freeman $12 0.00

Kyle Orton $12 0.00

Like I said, no studs but I think by the end of the year Flacco has a very good chance of being considered one. Showed excellent progress in his second year and with the addition of Boldin & Houshmandzadeh I think he'll have some light 'em up games this year. Freeman and Orton both have great playoff schedules, a little worried that Orton may get benched at some point but thought it was worth the risk.

Frank Gore $34 0.00

C.J. Spiller $17 0.00

Arian Foster $13 0.00

Leon Washington $8 0.00

Thomas Jones $7 0.00

Not a lot of depth here and my only true stud in Gore, but in Gore, Spiller and Foster I think I have three very good backs. Liked Washington as well, I was pretty high on Forsett earlier but at the end of the day it looks like Washington has a good shot at getting the largest share of the work. TJ is a gamble as he seemed to fade late last year, but I thought he was worth it for $7, he could still be pretty heavily involved in KC's offense.

Michael Crabtree $22 0.00

Pierre Garcon $12 0.00

Mike Williams $8 0.00

Dexter McCluster $7 0.00

Laurent Robinson $7 0.00

Legedu Naanee $7 0.00

Davone Bess $4 0.00

Louis Murphy $4 0.00

Greg Camarillo $3 0.00

Quantity over quality here, like a lot of others who have already posted, I thought there were a lot of value picks under the $10 range. Just hope Crabtree can live up to his potential and Garcon doesn't get lost in the shuffle with all of the options in Indy. Was a little worried about having my top RB and WR (and DEF for that matter) on the same team, but their playoff schedule is pretty favorable - SEA, SD and TB in weeks 14-16.

Jermichael Finley $21 0.00

Dustin Keller $9 0.00

Aaron Hernandez $5 0.00

TE scoring is high and I guess you could call Finley a stud, he's certainly hyped enough for one. I like D. Keller's prospects this year and picked up Hernandez in one of my last iterations just based on things I've heard here and other sites.

Ryan Succop $2 0.00

Sebastian Janikowski $2 0.00

Olindo Mare $2 0.00

Matt Bryant $2 0.00

Kickers - 4 cheapies, enough said.

San Francisco 49ers $5 0.00

New Orleans Saints $4 0.00

Carolina Panthers $4 0.00

49ers and Saints appear to be pretty common picks, liked Carolina just from what I saw in preseason. It seems like at least one of these teams goes against a weaker offense every week, so I'm hoping to play matchup and get relatively high scores here.

That's it, eagerly awaiting week 1!

 
ctriopelle said:
Completely agree here, pricing of a top TE that should be a flex that should outscore a comparably priced WR2 was impossible to pass on. It also allowed me to only go 2 TE deep with a pile of WR's to cover the flex spot on byes. Maybe it has been this way in the past, but it just jumped out at me this year. I went 2QB/5RB/9WR/2TE/3PK/4DEF/25 total in my final iteration. I had a 29 player version on my first whack yesterday, but didn't feel the cheaper players would get me much meaningful scoring. 2QB is risky, but you have to make your stand somewhere. I also helped a friend with a team and went pure studs at 21 players, with 7 of those 21 being PK/DEF. If he stays healthy I like that team a lot to do some finals damage, but there is no room for injury error. Both submissions are top 150 this week, I take it that's a good sign, although my "less studly" team oddly has a higher rank than his. Must be the depth gave me more options across the sims.

FYI, it looks like OC and I won't be able to run the unofficial scoring site this year, the contest rule changes really posed some challenges to us to even get off the ground. Kinda sucks, as I enjoyed doing that as much as following my teams on Sundays. If anyone with serious web skills wants to PM me to see if we can figure out a workaround, feel free.
what does this comment mean? are there projected performances available somewhere?
guessing that the entries are listed in order of simulation results? yes?
 
I'm surprised there are not more Gates/Finley combos. Gates would have been Wr #6 last year in this scoring system. They could both easily be top 30 players and were cheap by comparison. There are only 37 teams, with this combo.

My line-up-

Joe Flacco $17 0.00

Ben Roethlisberger $14 0.00

Frank Gore $34 0.00

Michael Bush $16 0.00

Tim Hightower $13 0.00

Arian Foster $13 0.00

Leon Washington $8 0.00

Steve Smith $24 0.00

Hines Ward $21 0.00

Bernard Berrian $7 0.00

Josh Cribbs $7 0.00

Chris Chambers $7 0.00

Louis Murphy $4 0.00

Greg Camarillo $3 0.00

Antonio Gates $26 0.00

Jermichael Finley $21 0.00

Rob Gronkowski $3 0.00

Ryan Succop $2 0.00

Sebastian Janikowski $2 0.00

San Francisco 49ers $5 0.00

Cleveland Browns $3 0.00

 
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I'm surprised there are not more Gates/Finley combos. Gates would have been Wr #6 last year in this scoring system. They could both easily be top 30 players and were cheap by comparison.
:thumbup: I looked at 2 stud te's in the same exact fashion :unsure: and inked Finley and Gonzalez.
 
I'm surprised there are not more Gates/Finley combos. Gates would have been Wr #6 last year in this scoring system. They could both easily be top 30 players and were cheap by comparison.
If Finley meets or exceeds projections, I will bow my head and say congrats to those who took him. If he finishes outside of the top 8 TEs, and I submit there's a reasonable chance this happens, I will mock those who bought him mercilessly.Good luck. :thumbup:
 
I'm surprised there are not more Gates/Finley combos. Gates would have been Wr #6 last year in this scoring system. They could both easily be top 30 players and were cheap by comparison.
If Finley meets or exceeds projections, I will bow my head and say congrats to those who took him. If he finishes outside of the top 8 TEs, and I submit there's a reasonable chance this happens, I will mock those who bought him mercilessly.Good luck. :unsure:
I understand. But he just needs to finish top 6 to be worth it. Barring injury he should do that. I don't think he will throw for over 3,000 yds, because he could only catch 20 Td's then. :)
 
ctriopelle said:
Completely agree here, pricing of a top TE that should be a flex that should outscore a comparably priced WR2 was impossible to pass on. It also allowed me to only go 2 TE deep with a pile of WR's to cover the flex spot on byes. Maybe it has been this way in the past, but it just jumped out at me this year. I went 2QB/5RB/9WR/2TE/3PK/4DEF/25 total in my final iteration. I had a 29 player version on my first whack yesterday, but didn't feel the cheaper players would get me much meaningful scoring. 2QB is risky, but you have to make your stand somewhere. I also helped a friend with a team and went pure studs at 21 players, with 7 of those 21 being PK/DEF. If he stays healthy I like that team a lot to do some finals damage, but there is no room for injury error. Both submissions are top 150 this week, I take it that's a good sign, although my "less studly" team oddly has a higher rank than his. Must be the depth gave me more options across the sims.

FYI, it looks like OC and I won't be able to run the unofficial scoring site this year, the contest rule changes really posed some challenges to us to even get off the ground. Kinda sucks, as I enjoyed doing that as much as following my teams on Sundays. If anyone with serious web skills wants to PM me to see if we can figure out a workaround, feel free.
what does this comment mean? are there projected performances available somewhere?
guessing that the entries are listed in order of simulation results? yes?
http://subscribers.footballguys.com/contes...eweekonly-1.phpthis really needs its own link on the site somewhere...

 
I'm surprised there are not more Gates/Finley combos. Gates would have been Wr #6 last year in this scoring system. They could both easily be top 30 players and were cheap by comparison.
If Finley meets or exceeds projections, I will bow my head and say congrats to those who took him. If he finishes outside of the top 8 TEs, and I submit there's a reasonable chance this happens, I will mock those who bought him mercilessly.Good luck. :unsure:
Curious for why the need to mock? Only reason I ask is what specifically in what we have seen with respect to Finley's game play, all the coach speak from McCarthy about all-pro or pro-bowl status for him this year, and Rogers admitted trust for him does not add up to top 3 production? Yes there is a lot of hype, but it is coming from the right people. His play late last year and into this pre-season shows the AR12 to JF88 connection to be firing on all cylinders. Again, I know the hype is insane right now, but what about it is not justifiable? Was $21 really at all too much to pay for him all things considered?
 
Here's a different spin on things. Sorry I can't do the fancy code box thing (though I'd love instructions :unsure: )

This is the total amount invested per NFL team (based on last FBG entry form where I didn't know), plus the average per player. XXX is for guys known not to be on a team. The other entry is for a player who chose a different line of work. I took an educated guess that Steve Smith 1 = the Carolina one. They have the same price and thus are really hard to distinguish from each other.

Here you go:

TEAM INVESTMENT PLAYERS AVGPERPLAYER

HOU 285,958.00 14.00 20425.57

GB 253,261.00 12.00 21105.08

SD 168,887.00 12.00 14073.92

DET 158,436.00 11.00 14403.27

NE 152,262.00 13.00 11712.46

SF 146,316.00 9.00 16257.33

BAL 144,565.00 11.00 13142.27

DAL 137,203.00 11.00 12473.00

CIN 129,510.00 11.00 11773.64

ATL 121,020.00 11.00 11001.82

IND 120,429.00 10.00 12042.90

MIN 119,657.00 11.00 10877.91

NO 111,179.00 12.00 9264.92

TEN 106,575.00 11.00 9688.64

GIANTS 98,837.00 10.00 9883.70

JETS 86,405.00 10.00 8640.50

CHI 84,729.00 11.00 7702.64

PIT 83,568.00 13.00 6428.31

MIA 74,667.00 10.00 7466.70

OAK 70,072.00 10.00 7007.20

PHI 68,759.00 11.00 6250.82

BUF 65,142.00 9.00 7238.00

WAS 61,736.00 10.00 6173.60

DEN 60,094.00 11.00 5463.09

KC 53,577.00 10.00 5357.70

ARI 48,807.00 8.00 6100.88

TB 46,484.00 10.00 4648.40

SEA 45,332.00 12.00 3777.67

CAR 43,765.00 10.00 4376.50

STL 42,236.00 11.00 3839.64

CLE 37,888.00 10.00 3788.80

JAX 34,927.00 11.00 3175.18

XXX 1,714.00 9.00 190.44

GOD 219.00 1.00 219.00

And here for the curious are the top 25 players in terms of the amount of $ invested in them. That is to say number of entries times cost:

INVESTMENT NAME POS TEAM

107,588 Foster, Arian RB HOU

91,392 Johnson, Andre WR HOU

86,304 Rodgers, Aaron QB GB

73,960 Johnson, Chris RB TEN

71,799 Finley, Jermichael TE GB

65,712 Rice, Ray RB BAL

60,078 Gore, Frank RB SF

58,261 Mathews, Ryan RB SD

58,212 Johnson, Calvin WR DET

54,349 Spiller, C.J. RB BUF

52,979 Turner, Michael RB ATL

52,866 Bradshaw, Ahmad RB GIANTS

48,888 Welker, Wes WR NE

48,754 Peterson, Adrian RB MIN

44,739 Best, Jahvid RB DET

43,524 Austin, Miles WR DAL

43,296 Garcon, Pierre WR IND

43,010 Schaub, Matt QB HOU

39,763 Floyd, Malcom WR SD

38,692 Flacco, Joe QB BAL

37,856 Jennings, Greg WR GB

34,080 Stafford, Matthew QB DET

33,495 Moss, Randy WR NE

33,021 White, Roddy WR ATL

33,000 Benson, Cedric RB CIN

And finally here's the total dollars invested by position:

POS INVESTMENT

RB 1,104,337

WR 1,074,868

QB 531,846

TE 325,774

TD 130,638

PK 96,753

So there you go!

-QG

 
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I'm surprised there are not more Gates/Finley combos. Gates would have been Wr #6 last year in this scoring system. They could both easily be top 30 players and were cheap by comparison.
If Finley meets or exceeds projections, I will bow my head and say congrats to those who took him. If he finishes outside of the top 8 TEs, and I submit there's a reasonable chance this happens, I will mock those who bought him mercilessly.

Good luck. :)
I understand. But he just needs to finish top 6 to be worth it. Barring injury he should do that. I don't think he will throw for over 3,000 yds, because he could only catch 20 Td's then. :)
I dont mean to belabor the point, but why? Does he have the production history? Does his team have strong recent production history at this position? Does this team have a scarcity of valid WR options?

I guess I'm the old codger who has missed the boat on an "obvious" "here and now" uber stud. I'm not sure how you take this guy over anyone in top 15 TE history with confidence.

:unsure:

 
I'm surprised there are not more Gates/Finley combos. Gates would have been Wr #6 last year in this scoring system. They could both easily be top 30 players and were cheap by comparison.
If Finley meets or exceeds projections, I will bow my head and say congrats to those who took him. If he finishes outside of the top 8 TEs, and I submit there's a reasonable chance this happens, I will mock those who bought him mercilessly.Good luck. :goodposting:
Curious for why the need to mock? Only reason I ask is what specifically in what we have seen with respect to Finley's game play, all the coach speak from McCarthy about all-pro or pro-bowl status for him this year, and Rogers admitted trust for him does not add up to top 3 production? Yes there is a lot of hype, but it is coming from the right people. His play late last year and into this pre-season shows the AR12 to JF88 connection to be firing on all cylinders. Again, I know the hype is insane right now, but what about it is not justifiable? Was $21 really at all too much to pay for him all things considered?
Yeah...I doubt I would do much mocking, tbh. I guess I just find it surprising that so many have drank the koolaid without a nice fat history set. People said Brian Bosworth was going to be the greatest defensive player ever, etc etc. It will be interesting to watch what happens...
 
ctriopelle said:
Completely agree here, pricing of a top TE that should be a flex that should outscore a comparably priced WR2 was impossible to pass on. It also allowed me to only go 2 TE deep with a pile of WR's to cover the flex spot on byes. Maybe it has been this way in the past, but it just jumped out at me this year. I went 2QB/5RB/9WR/2TE/3PK/4DEF/25 total in my final iteration. I had a 29 player version on my first whack yesterday, but didn't feel the cheaper players would get me much meaningful scoring. 2QB is risky, but you have to make your stand somewhere. I also helped a friend with a team and went pure studs at 21 players, with 7 of those 21 being PK/DEF. If he stays healthy I like that team a lot to do some finals damage, but there is no room for injury error. Both submissions are top 150 this week, I take it that's a good sign, although my "less studly" team oddly has a higher rank than his. Must be the depth gave me more options across the sims.

FYI, it looks like OC and I won't be able to run the unofficial scoring site this year, the contest rule changes really posed some challenges to us to even get off the ground. Kinda sucks, as I enjoyed doing that as much as following my teams on Sundays. If anyone with serious web skills wants to PM me to see if we can figure out a workaround, feel free.
what does this comment mean? are there projected performances available somewhere?
guessing that the entries are listed in order of simulation results? yes?
http://subscribers.footballguys.com/contes...eweekonly-1.phpthis really needs its own link on the site somewhere...
thanks for this. the simulation engine didnt care for my 19 man squad. :goodposting:

 
I'm surprised there are not more Gates/Finley combos. Gates would have been Wr #6 last year in this scoring system. They could both easily be top 30 players and were cheap by comparison.
If Finley meets or exceeds projections, I will bow my head and say congrats to those who took him. If he finishes outside of the top 8 TEs, and I submit there's a reasonable chance this happens, I will mock those who bought him mercilessly.Good luck. :goodposting:
I'm guessing you don't subscribe to the theory that staying with the pack is often good and protects your team. Finley doesn't have to be TE1 for it to be worth it for him to be on your team IN THIS CONTEST. Guys like Finley and Foster could be average and you'll still be OK because so many people own them that they move the cut line. So the "secret" which I think has more or less been true every year of the contest, is to have most of the highly owned guys, with a zag or two, and then get your sleepers to hit it big at the end of the year.
 
Matt Ryan $16 I think he can reach top 5 this year for QB's, $16? steal

Sam Bradford $9 Looks good in preseason, worth the shot.

Derek Anderson $6 Last min addition with release of leinart.

Cedric Benson $24 Consistent RB points

Ahmad Bradshaw $18 Could be ahead of benson, depending on his carries.

Arian Foster $13 TD machine?

Bernard Scott $6 Looks good, if benson goes down, shouldn't miss a beat.

Andre Johnson $32 This contest is about WR's/TE's imo, so get studs when u can.

Roddy White $27 See above.

Johnny Knox $18 WR1 in a martz system? Worth the shot at WR3

Pierre Garcon $12 Could be in the Harrison role, as long as peyton is there, i like him a ton.

Mike Williams $8 Worth the shot for this price.

Louis Murphy $4 WR1 on a bad team, but Campbell is miles better than what murphy had last year.

Jermichael Finley $21 Chuck Norris doesn't mess with him.

John Carlson $11 No wr's that stand out a ton, Carlson will thrive.

Aaron Hernandez $5 Hopefully a 2nd half stud.

Brandon Pettigrew $4 Worth the $4 risk if he stays healthy.

Sebastian Janikowski $2 K

Graham Gano $2 K

Matt Bryant $2 K

San Francisco 49ers $5 They play Ari, Rams and Sea twice each, need i say more?

Tampa Bay Buccaneers $3 Cheap

Detroit Lions $2 Cheap

 
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Awesome to have Power Rankings for week 1. Even more awesome to be team #6! :kicksrock:

I was a huge proponent of 24 players last year (or more if it had been allowed). I think the changes in player prices make that less clear for this year. I went with 23.

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Aaron Rodgers $29 0.00

Derek Anderson $6 0.00

Marion Barber $18 0.00

Ahmad Bradshaw $18 0.00

C.J. Spiller $17 0.00

Arian Foster $13 0.00

Leon Washington $8 0.00

Andre Johnson $32 0.00

Pierre Garcon $12 0.00

Mike Williams $8 0.00

Dexter McCluster $7 0.00

Bernard Berrian $7 0.00

Laurent Robinson $7 0.00

Brian Hartline $6 0.00

Louis Murphy $4 0.00

Jermichael Finley $21 0.00

Vernon Davis $19 0.00

Sebastian Janikowski $2 0.00

Matt Bryant $2 0.00

Jason Hanson $2 0.00

San Francisco 49ers $5 0.00

New England Patriots $4 0.00

Tampa Bay Buccaneers $3 0.00

 
question i have that we will find out soon is, is there anyone BOLD enough to pair up both Andre & Calvin Johnson. Very costly move and whats worst is they both have the same BYE.
Not only did I pair Andre and Calvin Johnson, but I also took 28 others for a 30-man roster. Did well enough to rank #35 for Week 1 simulation. I'm sure a Week 7 simulation might be a little scarier:Entry 105181 :lmao: This entry is still alive. :headbang: 1 ------------------------------------Philip Rivers $19 0.00 Matt Ryan $16 0.00 Derek Anderson $6 0.00 Jerome Harrison $18 0.00 C.J. Spiller $17 0.00 Tim Hightower $13 0.00 Arian Foster $13 0.00 Leon Washington $8 0.00 Thomas Jones $7 0.00 Sammy Morris $3 0.00 Andre Johnson $32 0.00 Calvin Johnson $27 0.00 Mike Williams $8 0.00 Bernard Berrian $7 0.00 Laurent Robinson $7 0.00 Louis Murphy $4 0.00 Deion Branch $3 0.00 Justin Gage $2 0.00 Anthony Fasano $7 0.00 Jermaine Gresham $6 0.00 Brandon Pettigrew $4 0.00 Daniel Graham $3 0.00 Olindo Mare $2 0.00 Graham Gano $2 0.00 Matt Bryant $2 0.00 Rian Lindell $2 0.00 New Orleans Saints $4 0.00 Cleveland Browns $3 0.00 Tampa Bay Buccaneers $3 0.00 Detroit Lions $2 0.00 ------------------------------------TOTAL 0.00 CUTOFF 0.00
 
Not bad to be projected at 421 out of 13,000 entries.

Andre Johnson better stay healthy or my WR group may be hurting. Banking on sleepers to wake up.

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Tom Brady $24 0.00

Jake Delhomme $7 0.00

Derek Anderson $6 0.00

Ryan Mathews $29 0.00

DeAngelo Williams $28 0.00

Arian Foster $13 0.00

Leon Washington $8 0.00

Thomas Jones $7 0.00

Fred Taylor $6 0.00

Andre Johnson $32 0.00

Donald Driver $15 0.00

Mike Williams $8 0.00

Davone Bess $4 0.00

Louis Murphy $4 0.00

Devery Henderson $4 0.00

Brian Finneran $1 0.00

Vernon Davis $19 0.00

Jeremy Shockey $9 0.00

Rob Gronkowski $3 0.00

David Akers $5 0.00

Sebastian Janikowski $2 0.00

Rian Lindell $2 0.00

Philadelphia Eagles $6 0.00

San Francisco 49ers $5 0.00

Kansas City Chiefs $3 0.00

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I'm surprised there are not more Gates/Finley combos. Gates would have been Wr #6 last year in this scoring system. They could both easily be top 30 players and were cheap by comparison. There are only 37 teams, with this combo.
I'm surprised that there's any, considering they're both off the same week and it's week 10.
 
Not bad to be projected at 421 out of 13,000 entries.Andre Johnson better stay healthy or my WR group may be hurting. Banking on sleepers to wake up.------------------------------------Tom Brady $24 0.00 Jake Delhomme $7 0.00 Derek Anderson $6 0.00 Ryan Mathews $29 0.00 DeAngelo Williams $28 0.00 Arian Foster $13 0.00 Leon Washington $8 0.00 Thomas Jones $7 0.00 Fred Taylor $6 0.00 Andre Johnson $32 0.00 Donald Driver $15 0.00 Mike Williams $8 0.00 Davone Bess $4 0.00 Louis Murphy $4 0.00 Devery Henderson $4 0.00 Brian Finneran $1 0.00 Vernon Davis $19 0.00 Jeremy Shockey $9 0.00 Rob Gronkowski $3 0.00 David Akers $5 0.00 Sebastian Janikowski $2 0.00 Rian Lindell $2 0.00 Philadelphia Eagles $6 0.00 San Francisco 49ers $5 0.00 Kansas City Chiefs $3 0.00 ------------------------------------TOTAL 0.00 CUTOFF 0.0
Thats a very good team. I would have a hard time believing you got all that for only $250. I rolled with R. Matthews, A.Foster, Mike Willliams, Vernon, Louis Murphy, Derek Alexander and 49ers as well. I differ by having G.Jennings, Desean Jax and Crabtree at WR instead of Andre and Driver and LT and Forte at RB.
 
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Matt Ryan $16 0.00

Ben Roethlisberger $14 0.00

Cedric Benson $24 0.00

Ronnie Brown $19 0.00

Ahmad Bradshaw $18 0.00

C.J. Spiller $17 0.00

Leon Washington $8 0.00

Calvin Johnson $27 0.00

Roddy White $27 0.00

Malcom Floyd $17 0.00

Pierre Garcon $12 0.00

Bernard Berrian $7 0.00

Louis Murphy $4 0.00

Zach Miller $15 0.00

Todd Heap $7 0.00

Rob Gronkowski $3 0.00

Mike Nugent $3 0.00

Billy Cundiff $3 0.00

San Francisco 49ers $5 0.00

Chicago Bears $4 0.00

 
This is the one FF contest I try not to think too much about. Just based on gut feel. I made it pretty far in the past.

Matt Schaub Joe Flacco Frank Gore Marion Barber Arian Foster LeRon McClain Andre Johnson Michael Crabtree Malcom Floyd Mike Williams Lance Moore Jordan Shipley Jermichael Finley Chris Cooley Mason Crosby Joe Nedney San Francisco 49ers New Orleans Saints
 
Aaron Rodgers $29 top 3 QB

Jake Delhomme $7 start for under 10

Derek Anderson $6 throwing to good recievers

Ray Rice $37 could be #1 in this scoring format

Frank Gore $34 I fell is top 4 easy and could be 1a in this format

Ryan Mathews $29 reaching here I thought about going spiller and foster figured everyone was

Rashad Jennings $3 if he starts due to injury he is best value RB on board

Mike Williams $8 went cheap on all WR but got guys who could be feature WR for team

Bernard Berrian $7 same til week 6

Laurent Robinson $7 same

Harry Douglas $5 a big reach

Louis Murphy $4 same

Devery Henderson $4 only need him to have a couple big games and it will happen

Deion Branch $3 same now that TJ is gone

Emmanuel Sanders $2 for 2 why not!!

Jermichael Finley $21 will out produce all but 3 WR or all

Jason Witten $19 if he gets 90 rec and can add a couple more td than last year he is better value than gates

Aaron Hernandez $5 super sleeper by week fill

Dan Carpenter $3 cheap who cares

Rob Bironas $3

Matt Bryant $2

New England Patriots $4 cheap all will have there weeks

Chicago Bears $4

Washington Redskins $4

 
The last few years, I have attempted the non-stud lineup. This year I am attempting the opposite...although, injuries will kill my team.

Pos Player Funds

QB T Brady NE (5) 24

QB M Stafford DET (7) 16

RB R Rice BAL (8) 37

RB F Gore SF (9) 34

RB C Spiller BUF (6) 17

RB A Foster HOU (7) 13

WR C Johnson DET (7) 27

WR M Wallace PIT (5) 19

WR M Williams TB (4) 8

WR D Thomas DEN (9) 5

WR L Murphy OAK (10) 4

TE V Davis SF (9) 19

TE A Hernandez NE (5) 5

TE R Gronkowski NE (5) 3

PK R Longwell MIN (4) 5

PK M Nugent CIN (6) 3

DT Eagles PHI (8) 6

DT Redskins WAS (9) 4

 
***ALL CONSENSUS TEAM***

This is a hypothetical team representing the most-picked players in this contest. I would love to see how this team stacks up in the simulator (can we get one of the FB Guys to plug it in?) I took the most-picked players in this contest, then drafted them onto the team regardless of position, and regardless of number of players on the roster, until 250 points were used. With 248 points spent, Gresham was next in line to be bought, but his price tag was 6, so I went to the next player, which was Hanson for 2, which rounded out the 250 points:

QB Aaron Rodgers $29

QB Joe Flacco $17

QB Derek Anderson $6

A great trio in my opinion.

RB Ahmad Bradshaw $18

RB C.J. Spiller $17

RB Arian Foster $13

Another great trio, but I'd like to see more roster spots here



WR Andre Johnson $32

WR Wes Welker $21

WR Malcolm Floyd $17

WR Pierre Garcon $12

WR Mike Williams $8

WR Bernard Berrian $7

WR Laurent Robinson $7

WR Louis Murphy $4

WR Greg Camarillo $3

A great lineup.

TE Jermichael Finley $21

Do you really need a backup TE when you got this guy?

PK Rob Bironas $3

PK Sebastian Janikowski $2

PK Matt Bryant $2

PK Jason Hanson $2

Who cares, they're kickers.



TD San Francisco $5

TD New Orleans $4

22 players/250 points

And if anyone cares...

***THE MOST-HATED TEAM***

I took the least-voted for and stopped at 18 players, regardless of position. This team should be worse than the 22 kicker teams:

QB Tarvaris Jackson $13

QB Byron Leftwich $6

RB Lynell Hamilton $5

RB Lex Hilliard $4

WR Devin Thomas $16

WR Malcolm Kelly $4

WR Damian Williams $3

WR Keenan Burton $3

WR David Anderson $3

WR James Hardy $3

WR Ramses Barden $3

WR Maurice Stovall $3

WR Matt Jones $3

WR Jarett Dillard $3

WR Jerheme Urban $3

TE Gary Barnidge $4

TE Marquez Branson $3

TE Joey Haynos $3

(No defenses or kickers)

18 players/85 points

 
OK I submitted an entry and don't know my team number.Anyway to look that up. Turned one in and figured I would go bac and tweak it just never did. Didnt recieve a confirmation email unless it is in my junk but all other fbguys stuff comes through ok.

 
Well mine is unique with my top 4 players

Brady

Deangelo Williams

Andre Johnson

Roddy White

:football:

Thought Celek & Z. Miller (OAK) would be a little more rare but 61 people chose that combo too.

 
OK I submitted an entry and don't know my team number.Anyway to look that up. Turned one in and figured I would go bac and tweak it just never did. Didnt recieve a confirmation email unless it is in my junk but all other fbguys stuff comes through ok.
Click on the "My FBG" link on the FBG Home Page. Scroll down for the link to your team.
 
Made 2 teams but this one here is very top heavy and unique. Im the only team with Brady, AJ, Moss, Austin, Nicks, Finley

So much can go wrong with this team yet if it can slide thru for most of the weeks at the end of the year it could be very potent.

Tom Brady $24 0.00

Derek Anderson $6 0.00

Ahmad Bradshaw $18 0.00

C.J. Spiller $17 0.00

Arian Foster $13 0.00

Andre Johnson $32 0.00

Randy Moss $29 0.00

Miles Austin $27 0.00

Hakeem Nicks $24 0.00

Mike Williams $8 0.00

Mark Clayton $3 0.00

Jermichael Finley $21 0.00

Visanthe Shiancoe $12 0.00

Rob Gronkowski $3 0.00

Olindo Mare $2 0.00

Matt Bryant $2 0.00

Jason Hanson $2 0.00

New Orleans Saints $4 0.00

Tampa Bay Buccaneers $3 0.00

Team 2 is much more balenced. I like this team to make it much deeper with how balenced it is.



QB - Tom Brady - NE/5 - $24

QB - Matthew Stafford - DET/7 - $16

Ok, really wanted Rodgers but getting him and pairing him with D.Anderson or Dellhomme and maybe even Stafford left me with alot to be desired should Rodgers have a bad week or injury and i wouldnt feel to comfortable with those cats when AR bye week rolls around. As far as my best baragin for the ELITES at qb i thought Brady fit my team although i wanted Schaub but that week 7 bye is too crucial with so many of my hopeful starters on week 7 bye. I added Stafford as my backup and feel comfortable with him as my backup. Decided not to go 3qb's with 40.00 already being spent on qb.



RB - Ahmad Bradshaw - NYG/8 - $18

RB - C.J. Spiller - BUF/6 - $17

RB - Arian Foster - HOU/7 - $13

RB - Rashad Jennings - JAX/9 - $3

RB - Mike Tolbert - SD/10 - $1

Went very cheap here....could be a BIG MISTAKE but its a gamble here with this contest, after diggin and seeing the rb values are much higher for lower production compared to wr/te, i decided to take a chance with some cheaper guys i feel will get some good touches in there offense. Spiller Bradshaw Foster make up my basic rb core... Hoping by having strong wr/te's i will get flex points from there instead of here thats why i went the cheap route here.



WR - Calvin Johnson - DET/7 - $27

WR - Wes Welker - NE/5 - $21

WR - Terrell Owens - CIN/6 - $19

WR - Malcom Floyd - SD/10 - $17

WR - Mike Williams - TB/4 - $8

WR - Louis Murphy - OAK/10 - $4

Spent my money here, i think the top 4 wr's will all do good. Everyone has bad games but hopefully with my top 4 strong wr's and the 2 sleepers these guys anchor my team. My thought was maybe only 3 of these guys be in my starting unit cause of my te's will take the extra flex. Felt no need to water it down although 6 wr's is cutting it pretty thin. Had i not have both Finley and Witten i would have went deeper here at wr.



TE - Jermichael Finley - GB/10 - $21

TE - Jason Witten - DAL/4 - $19

TE - Rob Gronkowski - NE/5 - $3

Ahhhh, now i really spent the money where the points is, both of these guys can post top 10# in this scoring system and for there

value amount i think this was the way to go. Added ole Gronk in to sub in just in case although when JF and JW bye's hit im thinking my wr's take over the flex spot that week.



PK - Sebastian Janikowski - OAK/10 - $2

PK - Olindo Mare - SEA/5 - $2

PK - Graham Gano - WAS/9 - $2

PK - Matt Bryant - ATL/8 - $2

PK - Jason Hanson - DET/7 - $2

Could have went just 2 kickers and took that extra 6 bucks elsewhere but i didnt want many guys i didnt think on my team too much if they wasnt possible to crack the starting unit. I got these weaker kickers so its a good thing to load up on them and hope 1 of the 5 has a good week.



TD - San Francisco 49ers - SF/9 - $5

TD - New Orleans Saints - NO/10 - $4

Also spent some change here. Wanted to keep this part low but i like both of these def's for there values.

I dont have to much room to stand injuries but i like the quality of my team.

 
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QB

Manning/Manning $47

Big fan of carrying only 2 upper level QBs in this contest. It worked great last year, and with the bloated prices for bottom feeders, was even more enticing this year.

RB

R Brown/Bradshaw/Hightower/Foster/L Washington/Tolbert $72

Only 16 teams with the top 3 on the list, was expecting a lot more. The top 4 have a great bye week setup and really didn't change as I was tweaking.

WR

T.O./Massaquoi/Jacoby Jones/N Washington/Hartline/D Butler/L Murphy/D Branch/Camarillo/Crayton $71

Most of the board went the mass WR route, but apparently a lot of the entries are short rostered. Double De(i)on seemed like a very lucrative offering after the Housh release, but only 32 teams have both of them. As preseason went on, there were just so many bargains at WR, was fun trying to organize the best offerings with bye weeks.

TE

Witten/Shiancoe/Heap/Graham $41

Shiancoe is perennially the most undervalued TE. Haven't seen anything like it before. I'm with Otis on a Heap resurgence, and Witten seemed like a good value (nice early bye) compared to the bigger guns here.

PK

Bironas/Janikowski/Dawson/M Bryant $9

Double byes one week, but oh well. Weekly kicker output is so random, taking 4 was inevitable for me.

TD

Seahawks/Browns/Lions/Rams $10

Same with kickers, 4 was in the books from the get go. Wanted to spring for 49ers, but spent that extra money on WR10.

 
:popcorn: I had 22 or 23 players last year and lasted pretty late, but this year is very different, with much cheaper studs and much more expensive lower-end players for the value. The shorter rosters last year probably didn't have many of the great $1-4 players that were common. This year, there are very few such bargains, so it's apples and oranges.

This year, I have only 18 players, but I have 4 of the above value WR's to go along with Andre Johnson and Welker. I also have Rodgers, Chris Johnson, Ray Rice, and Finley, so went with the stud theory combined with value. With less depth, I may be more susceptible during byes than a 26-player team, but if I can survive the bye weeks and the top guys stay healthy, I think I'll have a better chance of winning than most 26-player teams (projected #29 in week 1). Hopefully the rest of the studs and value players will make up for the studs on bye.

To win, you need to get lucky either by having your guys stay healthy, hitting on some lower-priced guys who turn out to perform like studs, or probably both. Just because last year higher-player teams had a higher chance of lasting to the final 250 doesn't mean this year's the same and those with 18-player rosters are clueless. I think the numbers will look different this year because of the changes, but many 18-player teams will still get knocked out during the bye weeks and because of injury. I think there's a good chance the winner, or many of the top 100, will have shorter rosters this year.
Same argument was applied last year and the later in the year we went, the more the short rosters got decimated. As that destruction was in full swing the new argument became that the short rosters would dominate the post season. Well only one made the top ten as I recall.Once weeks 14-16 roll around, the guys with the 2010 version of Harrison, Charles, Finley, Bryant, etc will be right on par with the stud rosters and weilding the extra depth especially at K and D to edge ahead of the stud roster teams. As I recall, Detriot D was the difference between last year's winner taking home the big check and finishing second.

 
First Year doing this contest, and I modified my entry quite a bit. I was actually going to change it yet again this morning, but it is closed. I debated on Berrian more than any other player...I hope I don't regret leaving him out of my final entry (I was going to add him this morning)

With not further adieu, here is my 2010 entry form and explanations:

QB

Matt Schaub $23

Chad Henne $14

Derek Anderson $6

Total: 43/250, or 17.2%

I wanted a stud to start my QB...I had Romo in my first version, but I think that Schaub will have some huge games, and Henne threw for over 300 last season with basically no receivers. Now that he has Marshall, I think he could have some HUGE games. Anderson is a throw-in...for $6, if he does well on Arizona's team, he could be the best value here.

RB

Chris Johnson $40

DeAngelo Williams $28

Ronnie Brown $19

Arian Foster $13

Fred Taylor $6

Total: 106/250, or 42.4%

I wanted 2 top-10 backs on my squad, and between my top 4 guys here, I think I will have that easily. Had Gore, then Peterson, then finally settled on Johnson on my last few versions. I think Carolina will run Williams hard this season, and he could challenge for the top spot. Brown is a top-10 back when healthy, and with this best-ball format, you don't have to guess on his big games. Foster I am sure is on a LOT of rosters at his price, and I thought Taylor could do well for $6.

WR

Wes Welker $21

Jabar Gaffney $16

Laurent Robinson $7

Eric Decker $4

Louis Murphy $4

Devery Henderson $4

Deion Branch $3

Total: 59/250, or 23.6%

I think I may regret not spending more on this position, especially if Welker struggles out of the gate. I have a lot of lower-priced WRs, as I am sure a lot of people do, but I need 2 or 3 of them to VASTLY outperform their costs in order to survive the contest. Gaffney is #1 to start the season in DEN, and 16 is low for a starter. I also took Decker from the same offense, due to a strong showing in the preseason. Robinson and Branch I took due to injuries or trades giving them a greater opportunity. Murphy I think could be a steal at $4, and Henderson I took just for his ability to throw a big game out every so often.

TE

Brent Celek $17

Todd Heap $7

Total: 24/250, or 9.6%

I changed this position from a $13 Owen Daniels as news of his slow recovery came out a week or so ago, and went with Celek instead. He was the lowest price of all the TEs that I think have a legitimate shot at #1, and I am hoping the chemistry he showed with Kolb last year continues this season. Heap I took due to his preseason resurgence.

K

Rob Bironas $3

Sebastian Janikowski $2

Jason Hanson $2

Total: 7/250, or 2.8%

I went with 3 lower-priced options here, although I think they could be good ones. Bironas always seems to have a few monster games every year - that could move me through a couple weeks by itself. For the other 2, I picked 2 kickers that I think will be on offenses that will be a LOT better this season than last, and as a result may be bargains.

DEF

Buffalo Bills $4

Tennessee Titans $4

Tampa Bay Buccaneers $3

Total: 11/250, or 4.4%

I went with 2 $4 defenses, and I think that the Bills and Titans could both surprise this season. Buffalo was a top-20 defense last year (not saying much, I know), and will have Puz all year long. The switch to a 3-4 could be interesting for their chances as well. Tennessee I took on the rumors of Haynesworth making his way back there, but even if not, they could do well. Tampa I think has a shot at defensive relevance this year. I think that them taking those 2 monsters up front will solidify their rushing defense, and let the young DBs make some plays.

 
Two WRs frequently mentioned are Calvin Johnson and Wes Welker. According to the latest projections (with ppr), they are projected at 275.1 points and 202.6 points for a total of 477.7 points. They cost a total of $48.For a total of $48, you could get a total of 1,302 points from the following:Mike Williams, TB - $8 [194.8 pts]Nate Washington, TEN - $8 [147.3 pts]Bernard Berrian, MIN - $7 [162.9 pts]Laurent Robinson, STL - $7 [165.4 pts]Brian Hartline - $6 [137.5 pts]Louis Murphy, OAK - $4 [163.3 pts]Deion Branch, SEA - $3 [121.4 pts]Jordan Shipley, CIN - $3 [101.3 pts]Justin Gage, TEN - $2 [ 108.4 pts]Plus you get (1) a substantial amount of diversification, (2) insurance against injuries, (3) better coverage of the flex position, and (4) reduction of bye week problems. Unless the projections are flawed, it's a no-brainer.
Except that you only earn points from your top 3, maybe 4 receivers each week. So having more WR doesn't necessarily get you more points.
WRs and TEs are very hit or miss from week to week. If a WR scores a TD, they'll likely wind up with 14 or more points (including ppr) and make it as one of the top 3 WR's or the Flex. If they don't score a TD, they probably won't be included in your team's weekly score.Last year, even Andre Johnson had 7 mediocre games scoring 7.5 pts, 8.2 pts, 8.6 pts, 11.7 pts, 12.3 pts, 12.6 pts and 13.2 pts (including ppr) in weeks he did not score a TD -- and how many WRs will put up 101 catches, 1,569 yards, and 9 TDs this season like AJ did last year.Coming back to my comparison above, Calvin Johnson and Wes Welker are projected to score a total of 15 TDs this season. The 9 value-priced WRs are projected to score a total of 39 TDs this season. IMO the much larger group of value-priced players is a better investment of $48 than two studs.This is all speculation at this point. I think I'll keep track of the top-10 rated WRs and see how they do - week by week - compared to the group of value-priced WRs.
 
Here is the Marvelous team with some comments:

Philip Rivers $19

Ben Roethlisberger $14

Derek Anderson $6

Jerome Harrison $18

Ahmad Bradshaw $18

Darren McFadden $14

Arian Foster $13

Leon Washington $8

Fred Taylor $6

Santana Moss $18

Santonio Holmes $14

Mike Williams $8

Lance Moore $8

Bernard Berrian $7

Laurent Robinson $7

Brian Hartline $6

Louis Murphy $4

Devery Henderson $4

Deion Branch $3

Emmanuel Sanders $2

Jermichael Finley $21

Jermaine Gresham $6

Aaron Hernandez $5

Daniel Graham $3

Matt Bryant $2

Rian Lindell $2

San Francisco 49ers $5

New Orleans Saints $4

Tampa Bay Buccaneers $3

Detroit Lions $2

Last year I was a big proponent of more is better, so I used all 30 roster spots. Looked for value at every instance.

There are only two studs: Finley and Rivers. And many may not count Rivers as a stud. The week 10 bye is a bit of a concern. Roethlistberger is a stud in disguise.

The biggest value plays are Anderson, Foster, Williams (TB), Robinson, Berrian, Murphy, and Branch. Gresham, and Hernandez. So these are the players I need to build my rosters around.

I looked long and hard at Deangelo Williams and finally I was too concerned about injuries to include him.

I also really wanted a 4th qb (Jason Campbell), but dropped him to have more players at other positions. I wanted a 7th rb, but ran out of room. Spiller looked really nice.

With no stud WR, I definatley went with quantity and have 11 of them.

TEs provide the best value position-wise. The combo of Gresham, Herndandez, and Graham will probably provide the flex score more often than not.

I wanted 3 PK. Gano was in the last round of cuts.

I was only supposed to have 3 Defense and was choosing between SF and NO at the end. I must have mis-clicked or got confused on my roster.

A note on Roethlisberger and Holmes: with their suspensions, if you look at their numbers on a points per game basis, they start to look like bargains for their dollar values. And their suspensions end in weeks 5 and 6, when you really need their production most.

I did not spend much time looking a byes. With 30 players and few studs, I should be covered.

 

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