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TE Mark Andrews, BAL (3 Viewers)
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leftcoastheel
Footballguy
he done.
Deamon
Footballguy
Confirmed.
BlackCrowes
Footballguy
Don’t have him, but his lack of targets is difficult to explain. He did drop one last night. Maybe he’s just not right mentally after that accident.
BladeRunner
Footballguy
Because you GOTTA' have faith!I'm keeping the faith.
dipandglide
Footballguy
Is the lack of targets a scheme thing? Baltimore was ahead big the last couple of weeks. That has to be part of it.
I might throw some low-ball feelers out there and see if I can get some hate messages in the comments section
I might throw some low-ball feelers out there and see if I can get some hate messages in the comments section
Football Jones
Footballguy
I don’t have it handy, but saw a blurb where Harbaugh said ‘Andrews is definitely going to have big games catching the ball’.
Deamon
Footballguy
#Ravens HC John Harbaugh on Mark Andrews and the distribution of offensive opportunities:
“The whole is greater than the parts, and the parts make the whole. And those guys get it. They’re contributing in a big way… Mark Andrews is gonna definitely have big games here, catching the ball. Isaiah [Likely] is gonna have big games catching the ball. All those guys are.
”“Mark is a star. There’s no doubt about it. And the fact that we’re doing well on offense and as a team, and that part hasn’t been expressing itself in the last two weeks, gets me kind of excited, because that’s another weapon that we have that’s gonna happen.”
“The whole is greater than the parts, and the parts make the whole. And those guys get it. They’re contributing in a big way… Mark Andrews is gonna definitely have big games here, catching the ball. Isaiah [Likely] is gonna have big games catching the ball. All those guys are.
”“Mark is a star. There’s no doubt about it. And the fact that we’re doing well on offense and as a team, and that part hasn’t been expressing itself in the last two weeks, gets me kind of excited, because that’s another weapon that we have that’s gonna happen.”
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
I’m sure he will, when I finally decide to bench him
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I think Harbaugh traded Andrews to Andy Reid in his fantasy league and that's why he isn't getting much work. Jokes aside, the team make-up right now on offense isn't dictating work for Andrews because everything else is working, namely the running game. Simply put, they don't need Andrews, except to block. As bad as that sounds for fantasy, it is a reality. Is he droppable as you said? In shallow redraft leagues he probably is. In dynasty he's a hold for now. I'm still not convinced he is washed up. He's only 29 years old.
I just got him for peanuts so as long he's as good or better than Zach Ertz, I'm ahead.
FantasyGuru24
Footballguy
He’s good if your league gets points for blocks ..
That sounds like a terrible situation to be in because you have no idea which of the 2 TE's to start each week.
MTskibum
Footballguy
In a 14 team dynasty i am 3-1 and near the top in scoring and traded what will probably be a late 2nd for Andrews.
I don't even need him this year, I just think that 29 is way too young for a TE to be washed up, maybe his car wreck ruined his early season?
I drafted Malachi Corley and Burton in the late 2nd this year, its not like late 2nd's are high probability dart throws.
I don't even need him this year, I just think that 29 is way too young for a TE to be washed up, maybe his car wreck ruined his early season?
I drafted Malachi Corley and Burton in the late 2nd this year, its not like late 2nd's are high probability dart throws.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
At this point it doesn't matter until it sorts itself out. Right now that is play Likely and worry about your other positions until then. Sometimes you just have to punt a position and sometimes you're strong enough to overcome it at other positions. Hell, TE has been bad for everyone so far this year.
the moops
Footballguy
Yea - awful
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Maybe so, but I'd rather have Likely and play him if I'm benching Andrews each week until we see something. Like I said, sometimes you have to punt the TE position. It's not as if everyone else is feasting at the position.
I'm not saying I enjoy have Andrews on my team, but since I do, I'm kind of glad I have Likely.
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greenmountaingoat
Footballguy
Not worth losing my mind about but his injury cost me a championship last year. I ended up trading for and getting hosed by Logan Thomas the week I needed him. that team was fire at the end of last year.
That team was supposed to be stacked going into the year- 14 teamer, 1QB, RB WR TE- 3 flex - DST/ K (similar scoring at QB to the FBG bowl)
Purdy/ Rodgers/ Fields
Breece/ Bijan/ Kyren/ Pacheco/ Javonte/ Warren
ARSB/ Aiyuk/ Reed/ Flowers
Andrews/ Henry/ Parkinson/ All
Butker
Browns/ Saints
Instead, I sat Flowers and Reed in all of their blow up games and have gotten a total of 12.5 points out of my TE position because I keep starting Andrews. Silver lining- I have 3 better options!
1-3 and leading the league in points against. FML.
Wrong thread for complaining but he's costing me, big time.
I have him one other place and somehow am 2-2 despite getting goosed a ton.
That team was supposed to be stacked going into the year- 14 teamer, 1QB, RB WR TE- 3 flex - DST/ K (similar scoring at QB to the FBG bowl)
Purdy/ Rodgers/ Fields
Breece/ Bijan/ Kyren/ Pacheco/ Javonte/ Warren
ARSB/ Aiyuk/ Reed/ Flowers
Andrews/ Henry/ Parkinson/ All
Butker
Browns/ Saints
Instead, I sat Flowers and Reed in all of their blow up games and have gotten a total of 12.5 points out of my TE position because I keep starting Andrews. Silver lining- I have 3 better options!
1-3 and leading the league in points against. FML.
Wrong thread for complaining but he's costing me, big time.
I have him one other place and somehow am 2-2 despite getting goosed a ton.
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
Does this imply that you traded Ertz for him—or will he be your starter over Ertz moving forward?
Anarchy99
Footballguy
Over the last 3 weeks in PPR leagues, Likely has ranked as TE40 and Andrews as TE42. Can't say that rostering a BAL TE is going to help anyone this year. At some point, one of the two might have a decent week . . . but is it worth the weeks where neither one does much of anything?
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Like I said, I don't enjoy having Andrews on my team, but if I do, I might as well have Likely, who I think is a good long term dynasty asset, even if it doesn't pan out this year. I don't see other TEs setting the woods on fire either.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
Dynasty is a little different in that you are playing beyond this season. But for the season we are currently in, I don't see Likely or Andrews doing much the rest of the way. As you said, it's not like there are great TE options out there, but streaming guys off the wire would have yielded more points the past two weeks than playing Andrews.
He'll likely be my starter over Ertz going forward. I still own Ertz.
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
What did you give up to get him? It might be of value to others that are thinking about moving him or making a move to get him.
Roschon Johnson
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
I don’t want to derail the thread—but I’m not sure I would have made that move. I don’t know if Andrews will be much better than Ertz as Baltimore is a team that is massively committed to the run. Deandre Swift was a guy that before this past weekend was hugely disappointing—and he’s a guy that has had issues staying healthy. If you are big on Andrews—I think you did well—but I personally don’t think Roschon is peanuts. In my 12 team superflex team—if both roschon and Andrews were on waivers—Roschon would command more FAAB to acquire. Regardless—thank you for sharing the information.
the moops
Footballguy
Nobody was playing Likely in game 1, so you would have got 3 points from Andrews in PPR.
Game 2 you would have switched to Likely and got 4 points instead of 9 from Andrews.
Then maybe you switch back to Andrews for game 3 and got 0. Or even if you stuck with Likely you got 1 point.
Then game 4 what the hell do you do? Either way, you got 0 or 3 points.
I have Andrews. Likely is available. I won't be picking him up though. I'll grab a random TE of the week and see what happens.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I'm coming at this from a dynasty perspective, not redraft. I agree with sentence one. Sentence two I kept Andrews in and didn't switch to Likely after his big game. I hadn't played Likely at all this year until this week. I don't like having Andrews in dynasty, but I am kind of glad I have Likely in dynasty. I snatched up all the Tucker Kraft shares I could in my leagues, including on minor trade. I like him going forward as much, if not more, than Likely.
Based on how my lineup is constructed, Roschon was never going to start, so I was ok with taking this calculated risk to see of Andrews can regain some value. Plus I expect Ertz will get injured at some point.
Houston turmOiler
Footballguy
I'd give him away right now for just about anything. I wish someone would take that calculated gamble. They barely use him, and they have another TE that's better that they barely use either. He's waiver wire material now.
sushinsky4tsar
Footballguy
I haven't spent a lot of time here because he has always just been a guy I wished was on my team.
I get that he suffered a bad injury last November. I get that Likely has emerged, and yes, that's going to present a major challenge to ever being featured in the receiving game to the degree that he was. I get that he's probably not going to be very helpful to your re-draft team this season. Given all of that, I still don't get the dynasty hate. Current TE#16 behind Evan Engram on KTR. He just turned 29 and has stacked seasons of fantasy greatness. I think the debate was whether LaPorta had passed him for TE#1 at this point last season. Was the hip-drop injury considered career altering? That's the only thing that makes sense for his dynasty value to tank this low.
I get that he suffered a bad injury last November. I get that Likely has emerged, and yes, that's going to present a major challenge to ever being featured in the receiving game to the degree that he was. I get that he's probably not going to be very helpful to your re-draft team this season. Given all of that, I still don't get the dynasty hate. Current TE#16 behind Evan Engram on KTR. He just turned 29 and has stacked seasons of fantasy greatness. I think the debate was whether LaPorta had passed him for TE#1 at this point last season. Was the hip-drop injury considered career altering? That's the only thing that makes sense for his dynasty value to tank this low.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
You know the answer to that already. Just look at other player threads. It's all about what have you done for me lately. Now with Andrews, I've already said I don't really want him on my team and have him in one with Likely, but when you factor current usage, it's not hard to say bad things about him right now. I don't factor the off-season wreck into the equation at all, but I do wonder if these injuries are playing a role in his lack of a role. But I'm more inclined to think it's because of their current game planning and that is to run and run some more.
Nov 16, 2023 NFL Pedal Ankle Ligament Tear Grade 3 Andrews suffered a serious left ankle injury early in Week 11 vs. the Bengals. He's expected to miss the remainder of the 2023 regular season following surgery.
Nov 16, 2023 NFL Leg Fibula Fracture Andrews sustained a cracked fibula in the first quarter of Week 11 vs. the Bengals.
My view is that his struggles are mostly related to how gams have flowed, and the Ravens game plan going in to games. A few of the games Ravens were up early, and didn't really need to pass the ball, and instead ran out the clock because the run game was working so well. But teams will pick up on this, and will start to game plan to stop the Ravens run game, which will force them to pass the ball more, resulting in more opportunities for Andrews. Andrews isn't going to return to being a fantast stud this season, but I expect he will be a top 12 TE the rest of the season. He's not washed at age 29.
sushinsky4tsar
Footballguy
I guess you can consider me a buyer in dynasty then. The only thing is that I doubt his manager that's 10 months removed from him being a major lineup asset has adjusted their value as much as the fantasy hive mind. Evan Engram at one year older? Kmet?
zamboni
Footballguy
I think you're hitting on an important point, which was probably brought up pages ago. When Andrews was a fantasy stud, the offense ran through him amid few other viable passing options and a modest running game outside of Lamar himself. That dynamic has assuredly changed with Henry back there and Andrews getting plenty of target competition with Flowers and Likely, coupled with a relatively low volume passing offense. The talent may still be there for Andrews, but the situation is not.
Situation is definitely worse for him, compared to a few years ago, but I still think he puts up solid numbers this season. Opposing defenses will adjust to stop the Ravens run, which will create opportunities for Andrews.
zamboni
Footballguy
Yes, he can and probably will still more passing game opportunities, but so will Flowers and Likely. Which goes to my main point.
Football Jones
Footballguy
There's no way he's washed. Andrews was moving a lot better this week. He seemed to be bothered by something in his lower body the first few weeks, although, I don't believe it was related to last season's injury.
Mostly, it's just simply not going his way right now. Things change super-fast in this hobby these days so I suspect Andrews will start producing at some point. When that happens is anyone's guess.
Mostly, it's just simply not going his way right now. Things change super-fast in this hobby these days so I suspect Andrews will start producing at some point. When that happens is anyone's guess.
Football Jones
Footballguy
No doubt, LOL.
I sat him this past week. All we can do is play it by ear and hope he gets back on track. It's not as if Likely is tearing it up.
None of the Baltimore receivers are doing anything. Even Flowers has done nothing last couple games, and aside from one game, has been a disappointment as well. Ravens will start passing the ball more soon.
zamboni
Footballguy
I would have done the same if there was someone more viable. Put in for Kraft and drop Andrews, but someone beat me to Kraft.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
I’m without Goedert and Hock this week and the wire is absolutely bare as I missed Muth and Kraft.
I’m sort of crazily thinking about trading Hock for Andrews.
Talk me off this ledge.
I’m sort of crazily thinking about trading Hock for Andrews.
Talk me off this ledge.
Courtjester
The Town Drunk
I am 1-3 and I just can’t continue punting at this position. I tried trading Andrews for anything and I got zero bites. I don’t want to drop him, but this is a redraft short bench league, and I can’t afford another week of zeros. Like others, I know the moment I don’t start him, he’s going to go off
