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Yeah, basically. Complained that everyone needed to be likeable, or, if unlikeable, have a redemption arc. Complains that could not make dark movies in the 80s.
To be fair, I got a little pissy, but all good now.
#15: RAGING BULL [hbo max]
My #13 and 80s' #39. Just like us - we have all the boxing movies with robots, arm wrestling, throats getting ripped out, and Kumite fighting movies to choose from in the 80s, and we land on the black and white boxing movie that is a master class in acting and directing.
She was a Hater!!!!!!Pauline Kael's review of Raiders is incredible. She wrote in 1981 and it's spot on for the what the next 40 years of movies would bring and an effective takedown of some of negative aspects of some 80s style 80s movies:
The marketing executives are the new high priests of the movie business....Their growing power isn’t in any special effectiveness in selling pictures; it’s in their ability to keep pictures that don’t lend themselves to an eye-popping thirty-second commercial from being made....In the new Hollywood wisdom, anything to do with people’s lives belongs on TV.
The actors are mostly just bodies carrying pieces of plot around.
...essentially, George Lucas is in the toy business.
Raging Bull is fantastic film making.#15: RAGING BULL [hbo max]
My #13 and 80s' #39. Just like us - we have all the boxing movies with robots, arm wrestling, throats getting ripped out, and Kumite fighting movies to choose from in the 80s, and we land on the black and white boxing movie that is a master class in acting and directing.
I don't like this movie as much as everybody else, but it's a great film...probably around 50 for me. Have only watched it twice.
Me neither - little film theater at the UW. Oh, and I hated the movie.
Me neither - little film theater at the UW. Oh, and I hated the movie.
And it's not that I don't understand the reaction to Raiders, there are several top notch and very "80s" movies that we haven't and won't get to. I also have a similar reaction when people tell me they don't like my favorite movie. I think both 80s and I knew that Raiders would be at the top of the list of gripes - that and the comedy staples like Airplane! and others. I think what my experience with Raiders did for me was prepare for the kid not liking several of the movies of my youth I showed him. I understood more how seeing stuff for the first time 30-40 years later might play, or at the very least it allowed me to take my 80s rosey glasses off for a bit and think about the movies slightly more critically.
IMO I still keep them on for the most part. There are very few movies from that time (clarify - that I watched at that time) I don't like or wouldn't have fun watching in a group or with the family. But as I said to you or JAA - 90% of the time now, that is not how I am watching a movie and I'd rather watch something I haven't seen 100s of times. I am far more likely to try some drama or foreign movie I haven't gotten to from the decade on my day off than watch Bill and Ted's or Goonies again. And many of those I end up liking as much or more.Me neither - little film theater at the UW. Oh, and I hated the movie.
And it's not that I don't understand the reaction to Raiders, there are several top notch and very "80s" movies that we haven't and won't get to. I also have a similar reaction when people tell me they don't like my favorite movie. I think both 80s and I knew that Raiders would be at the top of the list of gripes - that and the comedy staples like Airplane! and others. I think what my experience with Raiders did for me was prepare for the kid not liking several of the movies of my youth I showed him. I understood more how seeing stuff for the first time 30-40 years later might play, or at the very least it allowed me to take my 80s rosey glasses off for a bit and think about the movies slightly more critically.
It's much more fun to keep the rosey glasses on.
Might need a Heineken for this reveal
Heineken? **** that ****! Pabst Blue Ribbon! That's what you'll drink tonight!
Easily the movie line I quoted the most when I was in high school.
Possibly my #1 from the decade. Made a huge impression on me, and works on many levels. Also Lynch's best accomplishment, IMO.
Was "Baby wants to ****! Baby wants to **** Blue Velvet!" your 2nd most quoted line around the house?
Great, we get a proper roasting after the countdown is over?
I'm not sure she actually saw the movie. But parents were certainly talking about it, with grave concern.Was "Baby wants to ****! Baby wants to **** Blue Velvet!" your 2nd most quoted line around the house?
It's definitely a reaction I get to some of my favorites too, and could easily see a parent thinking that - especially in HS.
To you? Like did they sit you down and ask you why you liked it or ask you to stop watching?I'm not sure she actually saw the movie. But parents were certainly talking about it, with grave concern.Was "Baby wants to ****! Baby wants to **** Blue Velvet!" your 2nd most quoted line around the house?
It's definitely a reaction I get to some of my favorites too, and could easily see a parent thinking that - especially in HS.
Was "Baby wants to ****! Baby wants to **** Blue Velvet!" your 2nd most quoted line around the house?
It's definitely a reaction I get to some of my favorites too, and could easily see a parent thinking that - especially in HS.
Was she by any chance the inspiration for the critic in Birdman?
Was "Baby wants to ****! Baby wants to **** Blue Velvet!" your 2nd most quoted line around the house?
It's definitely a reaction I get to some of my favorites too, and could easily see a parent thinking that - especially in HS.
(big suck out of the gas mask) ... mommy.
this movie is so messed up.Another I haven't seen. Guess I will have to add to my list.
Uhhhhh...
There must have been chatter about it in the parent circles and she recognized the Frank Booth impression I would do. She just said she found it disturbing that I liked that movie. There was no order to stop watching or anything like that, nor any further discussion of it.To you? Like did they sit you down and ask you why you liked it or ask you to stop watching?I'm not sure she actually saw the movie. But parents were certainly talking about it, with grave concern.Was "Baby wants to ****! Baby wants to **** Blue Velvet!" your 2nd most quoted line around the house?
It's definitely a reaction I get to some of my favorites too, and could easily see a parent thinking that - especially in HS.
I've been slowly getting through this one, too. Good stuff. Between this and his podcast, he is another director I've gotten to at least understand and appreciate where he is coming from even if I don't love all his work.
That doesn't stop me while ranking things. I still haven't conjured up the courage to watch Hereditary again, but would rate it one of the best of the decade.
It’s an unholy nightmare of a movie. You will either love it or think it’s one of the worst movies you’ve ever seen.
pretty much. It's not one I am going to stick my neck out and suggest many who haven't seen it do so.
Raging Bull is fantastic film making.#15: RAGING BULL [hbo max]
My #13 and 80s' #39. Just like us - we have all the boxing movies with robots, arm wrestling, throats getting ripped out, and Kumite fighting movies to choose from in the 80s, and we land on the black and white boxing movie that is a master class in acting and directing.
I don't like this movie as much as everybody else, but it's a great film...probably around 50 for me. Have only watched it twice.
