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Top 101 Movies of the 90s. We are done. If I knock out Amadeus/Brazil/Ran, We get to have an 80s countdown!! (1 Viewer)
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Long Ball Larry
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i love glengarry glen ross as a watch, but it's not the best movie of teh decade.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Glengarry is one that I have never dug. I seem to have a mental barrier with movies that were plays but turned into a movie, as they usually feel exactly like that to me. That said, I also didn't rewatch it for this event, and it's possible I could have change my opinion on it. It's not impossible - there are a handful of others that have been slowly creeping up my list that I didn't like much 4-5 years ago. (hence why I am such a big advocate of watching movies multiple times, even ones I didn't like the first time around).
otb_lifer
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i prefer the spectacle of pure human drama and pathos and comedy and futility and palookaville over most everything else, so it scores aces with me.
El Floppo
Footballguy
But it's got Sean Penn!!
you're talking about Phoebe Cates... right?
I love these so much.
I liked House of Games, but had already started to burn out on his approach to dialogue. By Glengarry (I always think of bricks for that), I was almost done- saved by the performances- but I just never loved the movie the way others do because of it. And funny- all my actor friends (including my brother) think his dialogue is incredible. sounds forced and completely fake to me.... but must be compelling to say for these people.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
We are going to let the selections sink in for the day. 3 of the next 4 are 80s-only movies, so he will start with those tomorrow sometime. I think after that, it's 3 KP only movies, so I will take over again after that.
Dan Lambskin
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MAC_32
Footballguy
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Well, one of the 3 of yours will draw some anger back at me for not ranking it at least.
rockaction
Footballguy
I ain't no glamour boy...I'm fierce
*Makes cat scratching motions like Sylvester in that Looney Tunes cartoon*
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Overall from my 90s marathon, my feelings of the decade are:
- still that overall horror stuck, but there were a handful of great movies that really set up the next decade of horror
- there were a lot of good to very good action movies but few great ones
- the indie dramas for the most part held up very well
- there were a lot of fun rom-coms that held up, just not the more mainstream ones.
- my biggest surprise for me was that overall the comedies held up way better than the action movies. I thought a lot more action movies would make my list.
Binky The Doormat
Footballguy
Binky The Doormat
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rockaction
Footballguy
I think I know what he's trying to say, actually. Plays that become movies don't feel as three-dimensional as other movies where setting and effects become much more important. Movies made from plays are generally lower-budget, and the production and cinematography reflects that. Add a heavy emphasis on dialogue, and you've got a different feel to movies made from plays.
Corporation
Angry Bovine
- 101 - MANHATTAN MURDER MYSTERY - Hated it
- 100 - THE BASKETBALL DIARIES - Never saw
- 99 - LIVE FLESH - Never saw
- 98 - HARD EIGHT - Never saw
- 97 - THE BRIDGES OF MADISON COUNTY - Never saw but I know I would hate it
- 96 - THE HUNT FOR RED OCTOBER - Really liked it
- 95 - SWINGERS - Really liked it
- 94 - THE APOSTLE - Well done but a tough watch
- 93 - POINT BREAK - Loved it
- 92 - THE BLAIR WITCH PROJECT - Pretty good
- 91 - THE FUGITIVE - Loved it, invariably if this is on I will watch the rest of it. First one I think is really underrated.
- 90 - THE FISHER KING - Again pretty well done but tough material for me to watch, also felt like Robin was trying to hard
- 89 - PRINCESS MONONOKE - Never saw
- 88 - SPEED - Fun movie
- 87 - IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER - Well done
- 86 - AMERICAN BEAUTY - I'm in the minority but I could not stand this movie
- 85 - MAN ON THE MOON - I liked it
- 84 - LA HAINE - Never saw
- 83 - THE USUAL SUSPECTS - Loved this movie, have to agree with others you have to give the initial watch more weight
- 82 - CASINO - Really well done
- 81 - APOLLO 13 - Great movie
- 80 - MISERY - Really liked it
- 79 - BOOMERANG - Did not like
- 78 - DAZED & CONFUSED - Never understood the love for this one
- 77 - AS GOOD AS IT GETS - Never saw, know I wouldn't like it
- 76 - SOUTH PARK: BIGGER, LONGER, UNCUT - One of only 14 people who can't stand South Park
- 75 - THE ENGLISH PATIENT - Another never saw but without a single doubt know I would hate
- 74 - DUMB & DUMBER - This one to me is underrated, one of my favorite comedies ever
- 73 - THE SIXTH SENSE - Another initial watch one. I figured out Usual Suspects but was blindsided by Sixth Sense
- 72 - THE AGE OF INNOCENCE - Never saw
- 71 - WHAT ABOUT BOB? - I remember liking it but it has easily been 25 years since I saw it. My 21 y.o. son watched it a few weeks ago and loved it
- 70 - CANDYMAN - Pretty good for the genre. I still refuse to look in the mirror at night and say it
- 69 - JFK - Did not like, can't stand Stone
- 68 - THE CRYING GAME - Really well done
- 67 - EYES WIDE SHUT - Meh
- 66 - DEEP COVER - Never saw
- 65 - AUDITION - Never saw
- 64 - GLENGARRY GLEN ROSS - Really good
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Binky The Doormat
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hey, KP and I have totally different perspectives of movies
mine ...is no doubt, much less sophisticated
but holy hell man ...the angst ...it's a hard movie to watch - because you are in the middle of this situation
I put it beside "A Streetcar" and "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf" of brilliance - but so uncomfortable it's hard to watch
to me ...that's art
life hurts.
TwinTurbo
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I can see why this movie could make the list. The critics loved it. That said, it's one of the most painfully slow movies of any decade with two characters that have no chemistry. It's memorable for me as being one of two movies from the 90s that I wanted to leave the theater but was frozen in place due to extreme boredom and somehow made it to the end. The other was Random Hearts.
Frostillicus
Footballguy
If White Men Can't Jump isn't on here I'm breaking stuff.
Mr. Mojo
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If they would have casted anyone but Rosie Perez, I might have agreed with you. Her and Fran Drescher have the worst voices in entertainment history (and I'm not sure which one is worse).
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Jayrod
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I don't think this is a bad take at all and kind of agree with it.
However, I think GGR is Hollywood trying to imitate what they think sales is like (similar to American Beauty is what they think suburbia is like). But it is really just a caricature with exaggerated features and it comes across as cartoonish at times.
Jayrod
Footballguy
otb_lifer
Footballguy
THIS ^ x infinity
sitting through her "performance" was perhaps the nadir of an already miserable enough decade for me.
that exaggerated Nuyorican accent is so ridiculous - she was trash, pure Bozo turn.
wanna know how bad Woezee Puhhwezz is? i'll tell ya how bad - she trounces Fran in that matchup the way a circa '86 Tyson would trounce my accountant in the ring ... and Fran is god awful herself.
otb_lifer
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Mamet is the great equalizer here, though ... this wasn't some Hollywood geek conjuring up caricatures - Mamet knew the landscape.
i saw the play - so much different, delivery wise ... much more dry and rat-a-tat, which is to be expected, seeing as how the film had the luxury of multiple takes, etc.
the film was superbly cast, and each actor hit it out the park, con much gusto.
still a remarkable sit, no matter how many times i do it - a dialogue stand alone masterpiece - ergo, a true unicorn.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
That is giving me too much credit.
To me this goes back to the conversation that I had with bracie about Power of the Dog - I don't gravitate to screenplay/dialogue as much as some here. On top of that, if we want to get into the psychoanalysis portion of the program - I was basically raised by women, my better friends growing up in MS and HS tended to be female, etc. When I think about it, a lot of movies that I seem to have the biggest disconnect and disagreement with the masses, especially male viewers, is movies that are greatly about dudes doing dude things. (very simplistic way to view it, but I think you get my drift). So westerns, organized crime movies, things like that. Typically hyper-masculine movie. I would put Glengarry a bit in that category, but it also has what I talked about above - very much focused on screenplay/dialogue. Usually on a rewatch of a movie that I didn't love the first time, if I do warm up to it, it usually starts with the direction, the way it looks, or a side character/performance that stood out the second time.
Or, we just like what we like.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
This. And I tried to explain a little more above.
Glengarry was one that I knew I would take #### for not having on my list, as this is exactly why I was hesitant to do a 90s countdown a few years ago when I thought of it. At that time I wrote down about 8-10 that I didn't connect with that I would assume would be "must-haves" on a 90s movie list for most, but would not be on my list at that time. Like I've joked - I am guessing there will be bigger disagreements than Glengarry, The Usual Suspects, and Dazed & Confused in the future.
I think the "fun" will begin in about 20 picks when people do a mental list of their movies, realize there are about 40-50 great movies on theirs, but only 30 or so left on our countdown.
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That one guy
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I’ve never seen Glengarry Glen Ross and honestly by the time I was old enough to know of it I thought it was a much older movie…never knew it was 90s until this list. My older bro would most certainly be disappointed in this development
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Reminds me of a conversation I had with a (female) cousin who is a novelist. She told me she doesn’t understand the hype for Breaking Bad because it’s “very male.”That is giving me too much credit.
To me this goes back to the conversation that I had with bracie about Power of the Dog - I don't gravitate to screenplay/dialogue as much as some here. On top of that, if we want to get into the psychoanalysis portion of the program - I was basically raised by women, my better friends growing up in MS and HS tended to be female, etc. When I think about it, a lot of movies that I seem to have the biggest disconnect and disagreement with the masses, especially male viewers, is movies that are greatly about dudes doing dude things. (very simplistic way to view it, but I think you get my drift). So westerns, organized crime movies, things like that. Typically hyper-masculine movie. I would put Glengarry a bit in that category, but it also has what I talked about above - very much focused on screenplay/dialogue. Usually on a rewatch of a movie that I didn't love the first time, if I do warm up to it, it usually starts with the direction, the way it looks, or a side character/performance that stood out the second time.
Or, we just like what we like.
ProstheticRGK
Footballguy
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
To be clear, that's not the only thing. It's just something that I have noticed throughout the years - that I tend to not like the typical "guy" movies quite as much as the masses. There are some I love, some I have come around on throughout the past few years, and some like Glengarry that I've watched a few times and didn't "get".
I see it's on Kanopy now according to justwatch. Maybe I will try again this afternoon.
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rockaction
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I honestly don't think you've missed too much. It probably wouldn't have made my top one hundred, either. It's a movie about sad sacks, gussied up with intellectual bravado about the mundaneness and stultifying inhumanity of the bourgeois working existence.
Mamet has radically shifted his worldview since he wrote it. He's an ardent Trump supporter and conservative. I wonder what he thinks of it now...
El Floppo
Footballguy
On top of that, if we want to get into the psychoanalysis portion of the program - I was basically raised by women, my better friends growing up in MS and HS tended to be female, etc. When I think about it, a lot of movies that I seem to have the biggest disconnect and disagreement with the masses, especially male viewers, is movies that are greatly about dudes doing dude things. (very simplistic way to view it, but I think you get my drift). So westerns, organized crime movies, things like that. Typically hyper-masculine movie. I would put Glengarry a bit in that category, but it also has what I talked about above - very much focused on screenplay/dialogue. Usually on a rewatch of a movie that I didn't love the first time, if I do warm up to it, it usually starts with the direction, the way it looks, or a side character/performance that stood out the second time.
Or, we just like what we like.
rockaction
Footballguy
I should say that I'm not ripping Glengarry Glen Ross, it was just...meh to me. And it's all subjective, really. Just wasn't my bag of tea the day I chose to watch it.
I think I would have liked it better on the stage.
I think I would have liked it better on the stage.
El Floppo
Footballguy
hmmmm... I expressed my dislike for his dialogue in his movies- it's exactly the rat-a-tat and over-repetition/redundancy of words and phrases that bugs me. it's like every character is Johnny Two-Times and every sentence by every character conceived and delivered the same way.
but reading that out- I don't think I've seen a Mamet play live. and your post made me think live, on stage, would make those words sing in a way that film doesn't (for me).... and maybe explains why all my actor friends and family love him so much for the dialogue.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
I think part of the equation gets left of in these discussions too. Often times we only watch a movie once or twice and it's a random bit of luck as to when you do, what your mood is, who you watched it with, etc, etc.
We talk about my dislike of most 70s comedies. I don't think ideal conditions to enjoy a movie like that is watching it for the first time in your late 30s by yourself at home. Those things matter.
rockaction
Footballguy
Wait, did I just say "not my bag of tea"? Hoo boy. Not my kind of teabag, I guess.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Like the breakdown post, corporation. Had to laugh at the "haven't seen it, but will hate it" comments though.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
OK 80s- we are ready for a new day of anger. 
otb_lifer
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
In the category of "movies I've only seen one time" GGGR is probably the best.
I think it would have been a great move to start or finish with a placard of Thoreau's quote - "The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation."
I think it would have been a great move to start or finish with a placard of Thoreau's quote - "The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation."
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KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Those movies are on the list- along with the standard comedies that show up on "best of" lists like Caddyshack, Animal House, Airplane!, et al.i'm still waiting for Mel Brooks to make me laugh.
never got the appeal
I am on the younger side for this site, watched all of them in my 30s for the first time, and disliked them all.
rockaction
Footballguy
Blazing Saddles had a moment or two. So did History of the World, Part I. But I agree. The Producers and others fall flat for me.i'm still waiting for Mel Brooks to make me laugh.
never got the appeal
And I don't think the two aforementioned are laugh out loud funny, either, they just have funny moments at times.
"It's twue! It's twue"
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otb_lifer
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if you take Smails outta Caddyshack, well - you're on "Perfect Strangers" level ... i didn't necessarily hate the flick, but i'm not nutting over it, either.
AH i like much better - it works for me.
Airplane!, it's sequels, and the whole "Naked Gun" ilk can all get bent - hard pass for me, always.
rockaction
Footballguy
"You're just mad because I didn't have that abortion"
Airplane! ruled. I still LOL.
Airplane! ruled. I still LOL.
rockaction
Footballguy
"Who's going to do it? You, Lt. Caffey? You, Weinberg?!"
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Jayrod
Footballguy
otb_lifer
Footballguy
ngl, that's my favorite part of the x exam.
this flick has grown on me ... took me awhile to stomach Moore and Cruise, but i learned to, because the source material is so gripping.
i also gotta shut off any political noize i usually allow to staticfy my dome - don't ask, because YOU CAN'T HAN-
PS- Pollack must've been banging his agent's head in for the beefy man role of Hockney after this somewhat twee character study - if Moore was a coat rack, he was an ashtray.
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