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Right, your default assumption is that the cops were justified, and mine is that they weren't. Since neither of us was there and the only video I've seen doesn't show him doing anything that would warrant being handcuffed, I'm going to side with the citizen over the public servants until more info comes out.
That's fair. If more evidence comes out showing the police overreacted then I'd have no problem changing my opinion, but more often than not you go to the ground because of what I specified.
This is how all of these videos are. They literally never provide full context, just the perception that the cops are being bad guys. I’m sure more context will come out eventually and the good news is it sounds like everyone is ok and hill will play as planned.
detained. however, if mouthing off to cops, could have caught resisting/obstruction.
I guess you're not an English Major
12/200/3 coming
I know it’s really hard to do, but maybe don’t say anything until you have the full story.
Would love to see the statute that makes yelling at law enforcement a crime. Is it a felony or just a misdemeanor?
Outside of a physical threat, I am not aware of a First Amendment limit that restricts what you can say to a LEO.
So if I am out in my yard and my neighbor starts on me about something.. I can go over, tackle him, and cuff him?
he was probably looking at the cop very suspiciously
Do we know what he said?
If you have the full facts and that’s what happened, ok. I haven’t seen everything yet.
If you're an on duty police officer who is for some reason in his own yard and in the process of issuing his neighbor a ticket for something else ... sure. Depending on what he's saying.
If he threatened them, then they should by all means take him in and book him.
Usually a “verbal altercation” doesn’t warrant physical restraint. It’s bizarre he was cuffed and face down on the ground.
Maybe he was driving like a lunatic? Was he getting someone pregnant while driving? Lol
No, you can't because you're not designated by the government to do so. But no PO is going to tackle and cuff someone simply yelling at them and if they did then that would be an overreaction.
Most of us are at least willing to listen to the facts if they’re released. We just have different presumptions, possibly based on our own experience.
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After seeing the video of the one hitting Hill as he was in cuffs.. There are going a few cops unemployed soon.Calais Campbell is known to be a gentle giant. Let's see what the video shows. One of the officers has been placed on administrative leave.
>>Dolphins DL Calais Campbell just told me he was detained in handcuffs by police this morning trying to deescalate the Tyreek Hill matter. He says never in his 17-year career or life has he had anything like that happen.<<
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i was cuffed and had all my possessions thrown out my car in Illinois 4 years ago because the cop smelled marijuana in my car when pulled over for going 5 over the speed limit. When the second cop showed up and opened my bag and saw my coast guard uniforms they stopped and then let me out and uncuffed me and took off after giving me a warning. After I put my **** in the car and drove off I called a coast guard lawyer, a week later we put in an inquiry and surprisingly the cops had no dash cam video nor body cam footage.
Why would he even be there? I’ve driven past friends that were pulled over. I’ve never decided to pull over and get involvedCalais Campbell is known to be a gentle giant. Let's see what the video shows. One of the officers has been placed on administrative leave.
>>Dolphins DL Calais Campbell just told me he was detained in handcuffs by police this morning trying to deescalate the Tyreek Hill matter. He says never in his 17-year career or life has he had anything like that happen.<<
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Literally every time.
Actually, we don't have all the "facts" yet, just some carefully chosen video. I'm willing to change my mind on this when the actual "facts" come out, but some online forum guy isn't going to convince me otherwise because "some cops are dirty". And doesn't the opposite also hold true? That some people are dirty? MOST traffic stops are uneventful and of the ones that aren't, only a very small percentage of those are the result of bad cops.
This has nothing to do with Tyreek's history. Nothing. So why even bring it up?
Not until unions and the system are reformed. Most police are good people and like with most sectors, unions do more to protect the bottom of the barrel than the cream of the crop. I’m friends with multiple police officers and they’re great people. They know who the bad apples are in the building, the ticking time bombs with an unknown time of detonation. The problem is, there aren’t any good mechanisms or processes in place to remove them from the force unless they do something so atrocious it catches the eye of the Feds. Look at the cop that arrested Scheffler. His service record was egregious, meme level stupidity and violations yet he was still on the beat at an A level event.
I think it's fine that the wife-beater got ruffed up a little bit by people in a position of power over him. Serves him right. I'm extremely comfortable with that moral position, and I don't plan to climb out of it.
Yea, this was my first thought as well.
Does the fact the cop has already been put on leave count as evidence that ya know, he messed up here?
Hopefully the ones that won't break the law.
