Week 17 2023 who should I start thread **OFFICIALLY UNOFFICIAL** (2 Viewers)

[kyoun1e]

PPR league. Need one in the flex.

* R. Mostert @BALT -- Bad matchup. Still getting the TDs, but don't expect high yardage totals. Achane will get his touches and it looks like J. Wilson is in the mix now. Another concern is his health. Definitely banged up but McDaniel saying he'll play. Risk of re-injury.

* D. Montgomery @DAL -- Wont be surprised to see DET pound Monty to start, but as a 5.5 point underdog playing Dallas at home could see this being more of a Gibbs game with Dallas as usual playing lights out at home and getting a lead. Note: I'm also starting J. Gibbs. Could fall into the endzone though.

* C. Edwards Helaire vs CINCI -- This is assuming Pacheco is out. Reports as of now are that Pacheco is practicing Friday so he may have a chance. If he's out, CEL is getting all the touches. He's a marginal talent, but this could be a get right game against a lousy CINCI D. KC seems a bit fired up too and J. Chase is pouring gasoline on the fire with some trash talk.

Who?

Thanks

I definitely see the issue here. I can't bring myself to start CEH over Mostert, I just can't. Montgomery is a little more difficult of a proposition vis-a-vis Mostert. They both face tough defenses on the road and you have to wonder if Baltimore has a letdown after an emotional Monday night game or if the Dolphins continue they can't beat winning teams on the road. Their four road wins came against teams with a combined record of 19-37 (excluding losses to the Dolphins). The Ravens have a solid rush defense 1st in rush TD allowed (5), 4th in attempts but only 12th in yards allowed and 22nd in y/a. It's hard to look at that and convert it into meaningful conclusions.

The Cowboys seem to simply smash at home. The Lions are good enough to beat anyone, anywhere and I don't think they crumble like they did against Baltimore. In fact their three other losses came as mostly a surprise against average teams (v Sea, v GB & @ Chi). They can go into Dallas and control the LoS...maybe. The Cowboys are middle of the pack against the run across the board so there is an opportunity. Over his last five games Monty is averaging just under 18 opportunities per game for 72 yards (1.6 receptions) with 3 TDs. That includes two solid games against Min & Chi who have objectively better rush defenses than the Cowboys.

What does it all mean? It means you have a heck of a difficult decision.

I probably start Montgomery but I can see backing off at the last minute for Mostert. Which, of course means CEH will have the best game.

Sorry, wish I could be more helpful.

Yeah it sure is a tough decision.

Pacheco practiced today so there's a chance he clears. That would remove one option.

Not to complicate things, but I didn't add T. McBride to the mix. I have him in the starting lineup as of now. The PHI D is terrible against the pass (and TEs) and M. Brown is out. My opponent is also starting K. Murray. Feel like McBride is a must start. If he wasn't, I could start BOTH Monty and Mostert.

 

[Chaka]

PPR league. Need one in the flex.

* R. Mostert @BALT -- Bad matchup. Still getting the TDs, but don't expect high yardage totals. Achane will get his touches and it looks like J. Wilson is in the mix now. Another concern is his health. Definitely banged up but McDaniel saying he'll play. Risk of re-injury.

* D. Montgomery @DAL -- Wont be surprised to see DET pound Monty to start, but as a 5.5 point underdog playing Dallas at home could see this being more of a Gibbs game with Dallas as usual playing lights out at home and getting a lead. Note: I'm also starting J. Gibbs. Could fall into the endzone though.

* C. Edwards Helaire vs CINCI -- This is assuming Pacheco is out. Reports as of now are that Pacheco is practicing Friday so he may have a chance. If he's out, CEL is getting all the touches. He's a marginal talent, but this could be a get right game against a lousy CINCI D. KC seems a bit fired up too and J. Chase is pouring gasoline on the fire with some trash talk.

Who?

Thanks

I definitely see the issue here. I can't bring myself to start CEH over Mostert, I just can't. Montgomery is a little more difficult of a proposition vis-a-vis Mostert. They both face tough defenses on the road and you have to wonder if Baltimore has a letdown after an emotional Monday night game or if the Dolphins continue they can't beat winning teams on the road. Their four road wins came against teams with a combined record of 19-37 (excluding losses to the Dolphins). The Ravens have a solid rush defense 1st in rush TD allowed (5), 4th in attempts but only 12th in yards allowed and 22nd in y/a. It's hard to look at that and convert it into meaningful conclusions.

The Cowboys seem to simply smash at home. The Lions are good enough to beat anyone, anywhere and I don't think they crumble like they did against Baltimore. In fact their three other losses came as mostly a surprise against average teams (v Sea, v GB & @ Chi). They can go into Dallas and control the LoS...maybe. The Cowboys are middle of the pack against the run across the board so there is an opportunity. Over his last five games Monty is averaging just under 18 opportunities per game for 72 yards (1.6 receptions) with 3 TDs. That includes two solid games against Min & Chi who have objectively better rush defenses than the Cowboys.

What does it all mean? It means you have a heck of a difficult decision.

I probably start Montgomery but I can see backing off at the last minute for Mostert. Which, of course means CEH will have the best game.

Sorry, wish I could be more helpful.

Yeah it sure is a tough decision.

Pacheco practiced today so there's a chance he clears. That would remove one option.

Not to complicate things, but I didn't add T. McBride to the mix. I have him in the starting lineup as of now. The PHI D is terrible against the pass (and TEs) and M. Brown is out. My opponent is also starting K. Murray. Feel like McBride is a must start. If he wasn't, I could start BOTH Monty and Mostert.

I agree about McBride. His target share alone makes him pretty much a must start in PPR formats. Throw in that Philly defense and I would have him in over all your other options.

 

[kyoun1e]

PPR league. Need one in the flex.

* R. Mostert @BALT -- Bad matchup. Still getting the TDs, but don't expect high yardage totals. Achane will get his touches and it looks like J. Wilson is in the mix now. Another concern is his health. Definitely banged up but McDaniel saying he'll play. Risk of re-injury.

* D. Montgomery @DAL -- Wont be surprised to see DET pound Monty to start, but as a 5.5 point underdog playing Dallas at home could see this being more of a Gibbs game with Dallas as usual playing lights out at home and getting a lead. Note: I'm also starting J. Gibbs. Could fall into the endzone though.

* C. Edwards Helaire vs CINCI -- This is assuming Pacheco is out. Reports as of now are that Pacheco is practicing Friday so he may have a chance. If he's out, CEL is getting all the touches. He's a marginal talent, but this could be a get right game against a lousy CINCI D. KC seems a bit fired up too and J. Chase is pouring gasoline on the fire with some trash talk.

Who?

Thanks

I definitely see the issue here. I can't bring myself to start CEH over Mostert, I just can't. Montgomery is a little more difficult of a proposition vis-a-vis Mostert. They both face tough defenses on the road and you have to wonder if Baltimore has a letdown after an emotional Monday night game or if the Dolphins continue they can't beat winning teams on the road. Their four road wins came against teams with a combined record of 19-37 (excluding losses to the Dolphins). The Ravens have a solid rush defense 1st in rush TD allowed (5), 4th in attempts but only 12th in yards allowed and 22nd in y/a. It's hard to look at that and convert it into meaningful conclusions.

The Cowboys seem to simply smash at home. The Lions are good enough to beat anyone, anywhere and I don't think they crumble like they did against Baltimore. In fact their three other losses came as mostly a surprise against average teams (v Sea, v GB & @ Chi). They can go into Dallas and control the LoS...maybe. The Cowboys are middle of the pack against the run across the board so there is an opportunity. Over his last five games Monty is averaging just under 18 opportunities per game for 72 yards (1.6 receptions) with 3 TDs. That includes two solid games against Min & Chi who have objectively better rush defenses than the Cowboys.

What does it all mean? It means you have a heck of a difficult decision.

I probably start Montgomery but I can see backing off at the last minute for Mostert. Which, of course means CEH will have the best game.

Sorry, wish I could be more helpful.

Yeah it sure is a tough decision.

Pacheco practiced today so there's a chance he clears. That would remove one option.

Not to complicate things, but I didn't add T. McBride to the mix. I have him in the starting lineup as of now. The PHI D is terrible against the pass (and TEs) and M. Brown is out. My opponent is also starting K. Murray. Feel like McBride is a must start. If he wasn't, I could start BOTH Monty and Mostert.

I agree about McBride. His target share alone makes him pretty much a must start in PPR formats. Throw in that Philly defense and I would have him in over all your other options.

Ugh, but not to add another variable, but I just saw that J. Jacobs is listed as doubtful. He aint playing.

I have Z. White also who rolled last week. Believe Indy is a run funnel D too. Not involved in the passing game though, but LV doesn't seem very interested in passing the ball.

 

[efactor]

Bears D at home against Atlanta or Raiders D on the road (in a dome) in Indy?

Points are all based on sacks and turnovers. Nothing given for points or yards gained. Leaning Raiders because of that aspect. Hard to ignore 4 defensive TDs in the last two games.

 

[Genester]

Pick 1 WR - 1 point per first down, no PPR.

Rashid Shaheed @ Tampa Bay
Demario Douglas @ Buffalo
Quentin Johnston @ Denver

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Pick 1 WR - 1 point per first down, no PPR.

Rashid Shaheed @ Tampa Bay
Demario Douglas @ Buffalo
Quentin Johnston @ Denver

Hmmm....leaning Douglas.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

I agree about McBride. His target share alone makes him pretty much a must start in PPR formats. Throw in that Philly defense and I would have him in over all your other options.

This exact thinking worked out swimmingly for me last week against CHI's turdly TE defense. (Not saying your thinking. It was aaaalll mine.)

He DID still have 8 targets, I suppose. Just did almost nothing with them. Didn't watch the game at all, so no idea what CHI was throwing at him defensively. Pretty sure with Hollywood IR'd now you'd assume he's going to garner "higher quality" attention. May not be the slam dunk he seems, but TE is such a ****show you pretty much have to roll with him.

 

[kajaet]

Indy D v Raiders

or

Raiders D @ Indy

Two straight week of 20+ points. Is three the charm or is did that ship sail? I'd probably play the Raiders D again. This is a very unanalytical opinion though. I guess I'd kick myself if they scored a bunch again and they were on my bench. If indy scored a bunch on my bench I'd be mad but "Who knew"?

 

[kajaet]

CJ stroud vs Ten played in a dome

or
Justin Fields vs Atl - 40% chance of Snow showers may or may not affect game.

I guess I'm with Fields now but I'd probably change it if it looked like a bad weather day, even though Fields can contribute with his legs.

Or am over thinking this?

 

[GoBirds]

Chandler vs GB or Zeke at BUF as a flex in .5 ppr.

 

[Inferno]

Pick 1 for RB2. Full PPR.

Ekeler @ Den
Conner @ Phi
Montgomery @ Dal

Already locked in:
RB1 - Cook v NE
WR1 - Brown v Ari
WR2 - Puka @ NYG
Flex - Collins v Tenn

Championship week. FBG and league host have my win % at 65% to 70%.

I've eliminated Montgomery due to recent usage, matchup, and low ceiling.

I'm leaning Ekeler because of the soft Den run D, usage with new HC last week, targets over the last month, and highish ceiling. With Allen out for another week, he should be featured again.

Conner's last three games make a strong case though. High carries and targets, red zone usage, and results (20+ pts), despite tough matchups.

 

[Genester]

Chandler vs GB or Zeke at BUF as a flex in .5 ppr.

I am facing this same choice. Going with Zeke.

 

[Chaka]

Pick 1 WR - 1 point per first down, no PPR.

Rashid Shaheed @ Tampa Bay
Demario Douglas @ Buffalo
Quentin Johnston @ Denver

In no PPR I think I have to roll the dice on Shaheed's upside. But Douglas seems to have the safest floor and a bit of upside himself.

But I like Shaheed a little more.

 

[FairWarning]

Straight forward
QB standard scoring- Pick one

Stafford at NYG
Love at MIN

Stafford

 

[FairWarning]

Bears D at home against Atlanta or Raiders D on the road (in a dome) in Indy?

Points are all based on sacks and turnovers. Nothing given for points or yards gained. Leaning Raiders because of that aspect. Hard to ignore 4 defensive TDs in the last two games.

Bears vs a dome team outside, all day

 

[FairWarning]

I am in a standard scoring league and have two questions:

Need two of:
Barkley
Breece
Hubbard
Pacheco (if he plays he starts, but I am assuming he sits)

Need 1:
LaPorta
McBride

Thanks!

Fine with Pacheco if he plays and, for me, Barkley for sure IMO. And, I mean do we see any scenario where Breece Hall even comes close to last week? In four games prior to last week he averaged 16 opportunities for 62 yards with one total TD. Now he goes into Cleveland facing a team with high playoff aspirations (suddenly) starting a QB they snubbed twice.

I probably go with Hubbard.

Much as I like McBride's volume I think LaPorta is simply better.

He’s better, but McBride is the clear #1

 

[jm192]

Well, I sat Flacco and Ford last night and obviously got that wrong. Here is my new week 17 championship dilemma.

Non-ppr league and I need to start two of these players:

Hubbard vs JAC - getting 65% snap share
Pittman vs LV - Hard to sit and looks like he cleared protocol
D. Smith vs ARI - Has been on a tear lately
Z. White vs IND - If Jacobs sits, he is inline for the lions share
CEH vs CIN - Looks like he will start a Pacheco has one less day to clear protocol

My waiver moves served me well in this 10-team league, but now have quite the dilemma.

Any an all, please chime in....

Pittman and Smith.

They're the two best players. Best floor and upside. White could see a lot of touches, but I don't feel warm and fuzzy about the Oakland offense even after last week's strong showing. You can't trust CEH. I'm not starting a Panther with the title on the line.

 

[fantasycurse42]

PPR, I need to sit one of the below:

Godwin
Mixon
Zamir White
Ekeler
Ridley

I think if 10 people answer, it’s almost an even split.

 

[jm192]

Pick 1 WR - 1 point per first down, no PPR.

Rashid Shaheed @ Tampa Bay
Demario Douglas @ Buffalo
Quentin Johnston @ Denver

I'm going Shaheed. You can't trust QJ with Stick. Douglas is a solid PPR guy, but he's broken 60 yards twice on the season.

Shaheed gives you the upside play. The TB defense is generous to WR's.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Carr v TB or Murray v PHI? 4pt passing TDs.

Murray, for the rushing potential, right? Right?!

 

[gump]

1 PT PPR….pick 2:

Achane @ BALT
Swift v ARIZ
Metcalf v PITT (Q w/ back issue)

 

[Chaka]

CJ stroud vs Ten played in a dome

or
Justin Fields vs Atl - 40% chance of Snow showers may or may not affect game.

I guess I'm with Fields now but I'd probably change it if it looked like a bad weather day, even though Fields can contribute with his legs.

Or am over thinking this?

40% snow doesn't concern me.

I guess there is some concern Tennessee makes it an ugly game but so can the Falcons and neither defense is prohibitive.

It's really a coin toss and depends on what you are looking for but think they both have solid floors and good upside.

Generally I prefer the guy with more mobility.buy YMMV.

 

[Chaka]

Chandler vs GB or Zeke at BUF as a flex in .5 ppr.

Neither is a great option IMO. Elliot's usage in the passing game probably gives him a better floor. I don't love his upside though in a game I think the Bills win handily. Still 5 receptions and a TD do wonders to make up for low yardage outputs and that is certainly possible here.

I would really like to understand what happened with Chandler's usage last week. He dominated the RB snaps (36-5) but only had eight carriers and zero targets. I understand they were playing catch-up a bit but no targets should be a concern. What if they start trailing the Packers?

Personally I don't think I go for the floor play here so I probably run out Chandler. But there is a d cent argument for Elliot depending on your needs.

 

[Chaka]

Pick 1 for RB2. Full PPR.

Ekeler @ Den
Conner @ Phi
Montgomery @ Dal

Already locked in:
RB1 - Cook v NE
WR1 - Brown v Ari
WR2 - Puka @ NYG
Flex - Collins v Tenn

Championship week. FBG and league host have my win % at 65% to 70%.

I've eliminated Montgomery due to recent usage, matchup, and low ceiling.

I'm leaning Ekeler because of the soft Den run D, usage with new HC last week, targets over the last month, and highish ceiling. With Allen out for another week, he should be featured again.

Conner's last three games make a strong case though. High carries and targets, red zone usage, and results (20+ pts), despite tough matchups.

I am fine with your logic re Ekeler. I have become a fan of Conner (three years too late) but it is a tough Eagles run defense on the road.

Personally I feel Conner is probably the more stable play and he has receiving and TD upside. Ekeler probably has a higher target potential but a Charger offense missing Allen & Palmer probably makes them easier to defend so I question his TD upside.

Conner OTOH has been a focus of defenses all year and does pretty well. Having a mobile QB like Murray helps.

Ultimately I think I agree about the Denver matchup and think Ekeler is probably the "correct" choice.

But I also wouldn't judge you negatively if you did a last minute pivot to Conner.

 

[Chaka]

PPR, I need to sit one of the below:

Godwin
Mixon
Zamir White
Ekeler
Ridley

I think if 10 people answer, it’s almost an even split.

I probably sit Ridley with Lawrence likely out and facing a true run funnel defense. But the way backup QBs have been coming in and putting up big numbers I wouldn't be surprised if Ridley outproduced all of them.

Note this is based on the notion that Josh Jacobs is ruled out. I believe is doubtful ATM but could theoretically still play.

 

[kelle1sa]

PPR - Flex spot: Zeke or Ty Chandler? Currently have Taylor and Conner in RB1 & 2 spots.

 

[Chaka]

Carr v TB or Murray v PHI? 4pt passing TDs.

Murray, for the rushing potential, right? Right?!

Yeah, probably.

Carr has been on a bit of a hot streak for TDs but Murray with his running ability and against that Eagles pass defense seems like as solid an option as you can get. He has two TDs in 3 of 6 games so far but no three TD games yet. So I do question his ceiling and there may be something to the notion the Eagles are still angry at the Cardinals and Gannon for last year's tampering just before the Super Bowl, but I still probably play Murray over Carr.

 

[TartanLion]

PPR - Flex spot: Zeke or Ty Chandler? Currently have Taylor and Conner in RB1 & 2 spots.

You should look at Chakas response as few posts up to the same question. I possibly lean Chandler as well as think that game could be more back and forth. Danger Bills go up quick and Patriots have to abandon Elliot somewhat.


Standard scoring, pick one of following for flex …

RB Chandler v GB
WR Cooks v DET
WR Rice v CIN

FWIW match forecast is tight, both our teams are loaded but he got off to a great start with Hall and Browns D. I already have Amon-Ra, Monty and Laporta going for tonight, not sure how I feel about adding another player from this game to the mix !

 

[Chaka]

1 PT PPR….pick 2:

Achane @ BALT
Swift v ARIZ
Metcalf v PITT (Q w/ back issue)

Achane seems to be a distant #2 to Mostert in Miami except maybe in blowouts. Even then he only saw 12 opps in a 30 point win over the Jets. Unless you think they roll, or get rolled by, Baltimore he may have 10 touch upside this week. I wonder if that's enough.

Swift, unfortunately, has limited TD upside and hasn't been a factor in the passing game in five weeks. But he still sees 15 opportunities per game over his last five and is facing the biggest run funnel defense in the league (32 in attempts, 32 in yards, 28 in TDs, 30 in y/a). I think I play the matchup here.

Metcalf has TDs in three of his last four games and four of his last six, including a three TD game against a tough Dallas pass defense. I don't think I can bench him.

 

[Chaka]

PPR - Flex spot: Zeke or Ty Chandler? Currently have Taylor and Conner in RB1 & 2 spots.

This is what I said above

Neither is a great option IMO. Elliot's usage in the passing game probably gives him a better floor. I don't love his upside though in a game I think the Bills win handily. Still 5 receptions and a TD do wonders to make up for low yardage outputs and that is certainly possible here.

I would really like to understand what happened with Chandler's usage last week. He dominated the RB snaps (36-5) but only had eight carriers and zero targets. I understand they were playing catch-up a bit but no targets should be a concern. What if they start trailing the Packers?

Personally I don't think I go for the floor play here so I probably roll out Chandler. But there is a decent argument for Elliot depending on your needs

 

[Chaka]

PPR - Flex spot: Zeke or Ty Chandler? Currently have Taylor and Conner in RB1 & 2 spots.

You should look at Chakas response as few posts up to the same question. I possibly lean Chandler as well as think that game could be more back and forth. Danger Bills go up quick and Patriots have to abandon Elliot somewhat.


Standard scoring, pick one of following for flex …

RB Chandler v GB
WR Cooks v DET
WR Rice v CIN

FWIW match forecast is tight, both our teams are loaded but he got off to a great start with Hall and Browns D. I already have Amon-Ra, Monty and Laporta going for tonight, not sure how I feel about adding another player from this game to the mix !

I'm going Rice here and not really thinking twice.

He is averaging ten targets/game over his last five with a minimum of nine. He averages 83 yards/game over that span with three TDs.

He is practically an auto-start at this point.

 

[kyoun1e]

Chaka...going to revisit my previous post with new info. Removing CEH and Mostert from the discussion. Pacheco is trending positive and Mostert being dinged and with a bad matchup scares me.

PPR League. Need a flex.

* Z. White @Indy -- J. Jacobs doubtful. Great matchup. Indy is a run funnel D and gives up a ton of yards rushing. LV a team that wants to run the ball as they refused to pass a single time last week in the 2nd half. White had ALL the RB touches last week, ran for 145, and ran well the week before. He also isn't a zero in the passing game. Had three catches two weeks ago.

or

* D. Montgomery @DAL -- Probably a lock for 50+ yards. Dallas weak in the trenches so I'd bet Campbell attacks them with Monty early. He'll probably get a crack or two at a TD. That said, DET is +5.5 underdogs. Dallas usually rocks at home so the game script could turn against him. Note: I'm starting Gibbs and ASTB already.

Which?

Thanks!

 

[Chaka]

Speaking of Rice

PPR - bench one

Rice v Cin
Pittman v LV
AJ v Ari

 

[Chaka]

Chaka...going to revisit my previous post with new info. Removing CEH and Mostert from the discussion. Pacheco is trending positive and Mostert being dinged and with a bad matchup scares me.

PPR League. Need a flex.

* Z. White @Indy -- J. Jacobs doubtful. Great matchup. Indy is a run funnel D and gives up a ton of yards rushing. LV a team that wants to run the ball as they refused to pass a single time last week in the 2nd half. White had ALL the RB touches last week, ran for 145, and ran well the week before. He also isn't a zero in the passing game. Had three catches two weeks ago.

or

* D. Montgomery @DAL -- Probably a lock for 50+ yards. Dallas weak in the trenches so I'd bet Campbell attacks them with Monty early. He'll probably get a crack or two at a TD. That said, DET is +5.5 underdogs. Dallas usually rocks at home so the game script could turn against him. Note: I'm starting Gibbs and ASTB already.

Which?

Thanks!

Dude, I'm considering benching Bijan for Zamir ATM so...

And, in your situation I'm not sure this is the week to put all your eggs in the Lions basket. They play very well in primetime (4-0) and are 4-1 in National games overall. They could definitely beat the Cowboys. But, it does feel like it's going to be a very tough game, unpredictable really.

 

[jm192]

New one: 0.75 PPR

Pick 2 RB's:
Kamara
ETN
Bijan
Barkley

 

[jm192]

PPR, I need to sit one of the below:

Godwin
Mixon
Zamir White
Ekeler
Ridley

I think if 10 people answer, it’s almost an even split.

That's one of the toughest ones.

With Lawrence out, I might lean towards benching Ridley.

 

[themeistersinger]

Kyren Williams at Giants (locked in)

Full PPR - pick 2 more RB's from the list:

Ezekiel Elliott at Bills - DNP Thursday for illness, but FP on Friday - also DT DaQuan Jones expected back in lineup for Bills - hoping for lots of dump-offs?
Zamir White at Colts - Josh Jacobs is Doubtful
Jaylen Warren at Seahawks
Clyde Edwards-Helaire home vs Bengals - DNP Thu and Fri due to illness, Pacheco is Questionable but did have Limited Practice on Friday
Justice Hill home vs Dolphins

I dropped Jerome Ford before Thursday night since I had made up my mind that he was fourth or fifth on my list - big regrets there. Since he would be on my bench I decided to drop him for Hill so I'd have flexibility with the spot if the need arose.

 

[jm192]

Speaking of Rice

PPR - bench one

Rice v Cin
Pittman v LV
AJ v Ari

TOUGH one.

I would personally go AJ and Pittman. AJ Brown is the best player, on the best offense, with a good matchup. Rice has been nice, but Pittman was getting 8+ catches every single game for 6 or 7 games before being knocked out of the Pitt game. He's "the man" in the passing game there--whereas Rice has to contend with Kelce and Mahommes spreading it around a bit more.

FWIW: FBG and Fantasypros have Rice higher than Pittman. But I think I want Pittman.

 

[Chaka]

New one: 0.75 PPR

Pick 2 RB's:
Kamara
ETN
Bijan
Barkley

Etienne because of matchup and the assumption he sees more action with Beathard at QB.

Barkley because I think he sees the most volume.

Kamara third and close to Barkley.

Bijan last because of inconsistent usage.

 

[jm192]

Kyren Williams at Giants (locked in)

Full PPR - pick 2 more RB's from the list:

Ezekiel Elliott at Bills - DNP Thursday for illness, but FP on Friday - also DT DaQuan Jones expected back in lineup for Bills - hoping for lots of dump-offs?
Zamir White at Colts - Josh Jacobs is Doubtful
Jaylen Warren at Seahawks
Clyde Edwards-Helaire home vs Bengals - DNP Thu and Fri due to illness, Pacheco is Questionable but did have Limited Practice on Friday
Justice Hill home vs Dolphins

I dropped Jerome Ford before Thursday night since I had made up my mind that he was fourth or fifth on my list - big regrets there. Since he would be on my bench I decided to drop him for Hill so I'd have flexibility with the spot if the need arose.

Zeke and White. Probably see the majority of the work, Zeke should indeed get a lot of dump offs.

We've had years to see you can't trust CEH. Warren is a solid flex play, but hasn't broken 100 yards since 11/19. Najee's play seems to have improved and he's managing to hold onto a decent amount of the work.

Edit: Didn't notice Hill. I don't trust him either. Who knows how they distrubte the RB touches, and then Lamar is still their best RB.

 

[jm192]

New one: 0.75 PPR

Pick 2 RB's:
Kamara
ETN
Bijan
Barkley

Etienne because of matchup and the assumption he sees more action with Beathard at QB.

Barkley because I think he sees the most volume.

Kamara third and close to Barkley.

Bijan last because of inconsistent usage.

Yeah, it's so hard to trust him from a fantasy standpoint because Arthur Smith doesn't see the value in getting his best players the football.

 

[Chaka]

Kyren Williams at Giants (locked in)

Full PPR - pick 2 more RB's from the list:

Ezekiel Elliott at Bills - DNP Thursday for illness, but FP on Friday - also DT DaQuan Jones expected back in lineup for Bills - hoping for lots of dump-offs?
Zamir White at Colts - Josh Jacobs is Doubtful
Jaylen Warren at Seahawks
Clyde Edwards-Helaire home vs Bengals - DNP Thu and Fri due to illness, Pacheco is Questionable but did have Limited Practice on Friday
Justice Hill home vs Dolphins

I dropped Jerome Ford before Thursday night since I had made up my mind that he was fourth or fifth on my list - big regrets there. Since he would be on my bench I decided to drop him for Hill so I'd have flexibility with the spot if the need arose.

Because it's PPR Elliott is interesting but, IMO Zamir may be the play here. He should see plenty of carries and the matchup is a lot better IMO. Those are your best options IMO and there is definitely an argument for Elliot, 5 receptions and a TD seems possible but I expect mediocre yardage totals.

I just don't see much value in Hill at all and CEH has never interested me.

 

[jm192]

Chaka...going to revisit my previous post with new info. Removing CEH and Mostert from the discussion. Pacheco is trending positive and Mostert being dinged and with a bad matchup scares me.

PPR League. Need a flex.

* Z. White @Indy -- J. Jacobs doubtful. Great matchup. Indy is a run funnel D and gives up a ton of yards rushing. LV a team that wants to run the ball as they refused to pass a single time last week in the 2nd half. White had ALL the RB touches last week, ran for 145, and ran well the week before. He also isn't a zero in the passing game. Had three catches two weeks ago.

or

* D. Montgomery @DAL -- Probably a lock for 50+ yards. Dallas weak in the trenches so I'd bet Campbell attacks them with Monty early. He'll probably get a crack or two at a TD. That said, DET is +5.5 underdogs. Dallas usually rocks at home so the game script could turn against him. Note: I'm starting Gibbs and ASTB already.

Which?

Thanks!

That's a really tough one.

I think White is probably the safer pick in the sense that Montgomery has to contend with Gibbs. If it becomes a shoot out or the Lions are behind, Gibbs may wind up seeing a ton of the work. I think White is out there no matter what.

 

[jm192]

PPR - Flex spot: Zeke or Ty Chandler? Currently have Taylor and Conner in RB1 & 2 spots.

You should look at Chakas response as few posts up to the same question. I possibly lean Chandler as well as think that game could be more back and forth. Danger Bills go up quick and Patriots have to abandon Elliot somewhat.


Standard scoring, pick one of following for flex …

RB Chandler v GB
WR Cooks v DET
WR Rice v CIN

FWIW match forecast is tight, both our teams are loaded but he got off to a great start with Hall and Browns D. I already have Amon-Ra, Monty and Laporta going for tonight, not sure how I feel about adding another player from this game to the mix !

Rice by a good bit. He's ranked as a top 10 WR play on most rankings websites. I really believe KC is going into this looking for the "get right game." Cincinnati defense is perfect for that. Would expect KC to be in the 30's this week. Mahommes has really shown a love for the kid, and he should see good volume. He's quietly sitting at 811 and 7 with 2 games to go. Very likely he breaks 1,000 yards and 8 TDs as a rookie

The other 2 guys are both solid plays, I just like Rice more.

 

[jm192]

Chandler vs GB or Zeke at BUF as a flex in .5 ppr.

Neither is a great option IMO. Elliot's usage in the passing game probably gives him a better floor. I don't love his upside though in a game I think the Bills win handily. Still 5 receptions and a TD do wonders to make up for low yardage outputs and that is certainly possible here.

I would really like to understand what happened with Chandler's usage last week. He dominated the RB snaps (36-5) but only had eight carriers and zero targets. I understand they were playing catch-up a bit but no targets should be a concern. What if they start trailing the Packers?

Personally I don't think I go for the floor play here so I probably run out Chandler. But there is a d cent argument for Elliot depending on your needs.

My thoughts exactly on this one. Really have a hard time trusting Chandler's usage, so if you've got another decent option, I'm going that way in most cases.

 

[jm192]

CJ stroud vs Ten played in a dome

or
Justin Fields vs Atl - 40% chance of Snow showers may or may not affect game.

I guess I'm with Fields now but I'd probably change it if it looked like a bad weather day, even though Fields can contribute with his legs.

Or am over thinking this?

I think I very narrowly lean Stroud. I think he's the better QB. The Titans secondary is actually pretty good in terms of Fantasy Points given up to QB's, but they truly don't scare me.

Fields gives you the rushing upside, but he's so up and down. You're just as likely to get 10 points as you are to get 25.

 

[JohnnyU]

CJ stroud vs Ten played in a dome

or
Justin Fields vs Atl - 40% chance of Snow showers may or may not affect game.

I guess I'm with Fields now but I'd probably change it if it looked like a bad weather day, even though Fields can contribute with his legs.

Or am over thinking this?

I think I very narrowly lean Stroud. I think he's the better QB. The Titans secondary is actually pretty good in terms of Fantasy Points given up to QB's, but they truly don't scare me.

Fields gives you the rushing upside, but he's so up and down. You're just as likely to get 10 points as you are to get 25.

Narrowly?

 

[Chaka]

CJ stroud vs Ten played in a dome

or
Justin Fields vs Atl - 40% chance of Snow showers may or may not affect game.

I guess I'm with Fields now but I'd probably change it if it looked like a bad weather day, even though Fields can contribute with his legs.

Or am over thinking this?

I think I very narrowly lean Stroud. I think he's the better QB. The Titans secondary is actually pretty good in terms of Fantasy Points given up to QB's, but they truly don't scare me.

Fields gives you the rushing upside, but he's so up and down. You're just as likely to get 10 points as you are to get 25.

Narrowly?

YMMV

 

[JohnnyU]

CJ stroud vs Ten played in a dome

or
Justin Fields vs Atl - 40% chance of Snow showers may or may not affect game.

I guess I'm with Fields now but I'd probably change it if it looked like a bad weather day, even though Fields can contribute with his legs.

Or am over thinking this?

I think I very narrowly lean Stroud. I think he's the better QB. The Titans secondary is actually pretty good in terms of Fantasy Points given up to QB's, but they truly don't scare me.

Fields gives you the rushing upside, but he's so up and down. You're just as likely to get 10 points as you are to get 25.

Narrowly?

YMMV

What does that mean?

 

[Chaka]

CJ stroud vs Ten played in a dome

or
Justin Fields vs Atl - 40% chance of Snow showers may or may not affect game.

I guess I'm with Fields now but I'd probably change it if it looked like a bad weather day, even though Fields can contribute with his legs.

Or am over thinking this?

I think I very narrowly lean Stroud. I think he's the better QB. The Titans secondary is actually pretty good in terms of Fantasy Points given up to QB's, but they truly don't scare me.

Fields gives you the rushing upside, but he's so up and down. You're just as likely to get 10 points as you are to get 25.

Narrowly?

YMMV

What does that mean?

Your mileage may vary.

Some people think Stroud is narrowly better than Fields this week, some think the opposite. It's all welcome in here.