2014 Subscriber Contest is LIVE (2 Viewers)

[steveski]

This is getting close to final, but I'm fine sharing. Hope others do too. Feel free to critique:

QB - Tom Brady - NE/10 - $17

QB - Jake Locker - TEN/9 - $7

RB - LeSean McCoy - PHI/7 - $34

RB - Alfred Morris - WAS/10 - $20

RB - Knowshon Moreno - MIA/5 - $13

RB - Carlos Hyde - SF/8 - $10

RB - Mark Ingram - NO/6 - $9

RB - Jonathan Stewart - CAR/12 - $5

WR - Julio Jones - ATL/9 - $25

WR - Cordarrelle Patterson - MIN/10 - $18

WR - Brandin Cooks - NO/6 - $14

WR - Anquan Boldin - SF/8 - $9

WR - Justin Hunter - TEN/9 - $9

WR - Cody Latimer - DEN/4 - $6

WR - Kelvin Benjamin - CAR/12 - $5

TE - Julius Thomas - DEN/4 - $26

TE - Travis Kelce - KC/6 - $8

PK - Greg Zuerlein - STL/4 - $3

PK - Shayne Graham - NO/6 - $3

PK - Blair Walsh - MIN/10 - $3

TD - Indianapolis Colts - IND/10 - $3

TD - Pittsburgh Steelers - PIT/12 - $3

Total value: 250

I think it looks pretty good. I have a pretty similar makeup in mine currently. Same amount of players at every position except I have one more WR and 2 more TE's (low value guys). So my only thought is that you're cutting it thin at TE, but maybe I'm in the minority. You have to start anywhere from 1-3 TE's each week and you have one stud TE and the other guy who could be a stud or could be nothing. I love Kelce's talent but I'm just worried he won't be used properly considering he basically hasn't even run with the first team once this preseason. Love Kelce as a flyer, but can't rely on him. Assuming Kelce is hit or miss all year long, you are 1 injury away from a guy with a history at injuries to basically having no TE's.

Just my opinion.

 

[(HULK)]

This is getting close to final, but I'm fine sharing. Hope others do too. Feel free to critique:

QB - Tom Brady - NE/10 - $17

QB - Jake Locker - TEN/9 - $7

RB - LeSean McCoy - PHI/7 - $34

RB - Alfred Morris - WAS/10 - $20

RB - Knowshon Moreno - MIA/5 - $13

RB - Carlos Hyde - SF/8 - $10

RB - Mark Ingram - NO/6 - $9

RB - Jonathan Stewart - CAR/12 - $5

WR - Julio Jones - ATL/9 - $25

WR - Cordarrelle Patterson - MIN/10 - $18

WR - Brandin Cooks - NO/6 - $14

WR - Anquan Boldin - SF/8 - $9

WR - Justin Hunter - TEN/9 - $9

WR - Cody Latimer - DEN/4 - $6

WR - Kelvin Benjamin - CAR/12 - $5

TE - Julius Thomas - DEN/4 - $26

TE - Travis Kelce - KC/6 - $8

PK - Greg Zuerlein - STL/4 - $3

PK - Shayne Graham - NO/6 - $3

PK - Blair Walsh - MIN/10 - $3

TD - Indianapolis Colts - IND/10 - $3

TD - Pittsburgh Steelers - PIT/12 - $3

Total value: 250

I think it looks pretty good. I have a pretty similar makeup in mine currently. Same amount of players at every position except I have one more WR and 2 more TE's (low value guys). So my only thought is that you're cutting it thin at TE, but maybe I'm in the minority. You have to start anywhere from 1-3 TE's each week and you have one stud TE and the other guy who could be a stud or could be nothing. I love Kelce's talent but I'm just worried he won't be used properly considering he basically hasn't even run with the first team once this preseason. Love Kelce as a flyer, but can't rely on him. Assuming Kelce is hit or miss all year long, you are 1 injury away from a guy with a history at injuries to basically having no TE's.

Just my opinion.

I really wasn't thinking of injuries. I figured since Thomas had a week 4 bye, it would be early enough that I could get by that week even if Kelce doesn't pan out.

I do think you can't win this if you have a high value guy go down injured for a long length of time. But this lineup could indeed be destroyed by something like Kelce stinking and Thomas missing a couple of weeks with a nick.

I wanted to get Ertz on there... but I dont' know where to cut. I'm pretty thoroughly in love with my WRs, so I guess I'd have to alter my RBs to find a way to add another contributer at TE.

 

[BassNBrew]

This is getting close to final, but I'm fine sharing. Hope others do too. Feel free to critique:

QB - Tom Brady - NE/10 - $17

QB - Jake Locker - TEN/9 - $7

RB - LeSean McCoy - PHI/7 - $34

RB - Alfred Morris - WAS/10 - $20

RB - Knowshon Moreno - MIA/5 - $13

RB - Carlos Hyde - SF/8 - $10

RB - Mark Ingram - NO/6 - $9

RB - Jonathan Stewart - CAR/12 - $5

WR - Julio Jones - ATL/9 - $25

WR - Cordarrelle Patterson - MIN/10 - $18

WR - Brandin Cooks - NO/6 - $14

WR - Anquan Boldin - SF/8 - $9

WR - Justin Hunter - TEN/9 - $9

WR - Cody Latimer - DEN/4 - $6

WR - Kelvin Benjamin - CAR/12 - $5

TE - Julius Thomas - DEN/4 - $26

TE - Travis Kelce - KC/6 - $8

PK - Greg Zuerlein - STL/4 - $3

PK - Shayne Graham - NO/6 - $3

PK - Blair Walsh - MIN/10 - $3

TD - Indianapolis Colts - IND/10 - $3

TD - Pittsburgh Steelers - PIT/12 - $3

Total value: 250

I think it looks pretty good. I have a pretty similar makeup in mine currently. Same amount of players at every position except I have one more WR and 2 more TE's (low value guys). So my only thought is that you're cutting it thin at TE, but maybe I'm in the minority. You have to start anywhere from 1-3 TE's each week and you have one stud TE and the other guy who could be a stud or could be nothing. I love Kelce's talent but I'm just worried he won't be used properly considering he basically hasn't even run with the first team once this preseason. Love Kelce as a flyer, but can't rely on him. Assuming Kelce is hit or miss all year long, you are 1 injury away from a guy with a history at injuries to basically having no TE's.

Just my opinion.

I really wasn't thinking of injuries. I figured since Thomas had a week 4 bye, it would be early enough that I could get by that week even if Kelce doesn't pan out.

I do think you can't win this if you have a high value guy go down injured for a long length of time. But this lineup could indeed be destroyed by something like Kelce stinking and Thomas missing a couple of weeks with a nick.

I wanted to get Ertz on there... but I dont' know where to cut. I'm pretty thoroughly in love with my WRs, so I guess I'd have to alter my RBs to find a way to add another contributer at TE.

If you look at pt / $, you should go as thin at RB as possible. Both flexes at TE would be optimal IMO.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

I really miss the $1 players.

Scoring and pricing changes have altered my strategy a lot in the past 2 years.

$8-$14 range is now Value Town.

 

[17seconds]

My entry is changing all the time but here are my thoughts as I keep tweaking it:

- I think I posted earlier that 3 QBs doesn't make sense, but the way Bortles is looking right now I'll take him for $3 as a 3rd QB for injury insurance mid season. There is no way on earth Chad Henne plays the full year.

- If you want to get hit hard with a bye week, it's week 4. Easier to advance that week. Good luck advancing if your byes are concentrated week 9 or 10.

- Seattle's DST is all-time special. I'll pay for that and then take another one for $3

- I'm inclined to draft 3 TEs because of the 1.5 PPR but haven't figured out a workable way to do it while keeping the other guys I want

- I'm taking 20 players or less. Gotta have studs.

 

[apalmer]

My entry is changing all the time but here are my thoughts as I keep tweaking it:

- I think I posted earlier that 3 QBs doesn't make sense, but the way Bortles is looking right now I'll take him for $3 as a 3rd QB for injury insurance mid season. There is no way on earth Chad Henne plays the full year.

- If you want to get hit hard with a bye week, it's week 4. Easier to advance that week. Good luck advancing if your byes are concentrated week 9 or 10.

- Seattle's DST is all-time special. I'll pay for that and then take another one for $3

- I'm inclined to draft 3 TEs because of the 1.5 PPR but haven't figured out a workable way to do it while keeping the other guys I want

- I'm taking 20 players or less. Gotta have studs.

Seattle might be all-time special in the real world, but the DD projections have them scoring less than 1 ppg more than $4 Carolina. That's not much extra production for $5.

 

[BaBastage]

If you look at pt / $, you should go as thin at RB as possible. Both flexes at TE would be optimal IMO.

For last year, I went back the prior couple of years and costed out the average point per dollar for every position and cost.

As it turns out, points per dollar isn't by itself an optimal metric. There are a lot of situations where low cost players yielded the highest points per dollar, but because of their low cost, the net points aren't enough to crack the starting lineup.

 

[BassNBrew]

If you look at pt / $, you should go as thin at RB as possible. Both flexes at TE would be optimal IMO.

For last year, I went back the prior couple of years and costed out the average point per dollar for every position and cost.

As it turns out, points per dollar isn't by itself an optimal metric. There are a lot of situations where low cost players yielded the highest points per dollar, but because of their low cost, the net points aren't enough to crack the starting lineup.

I was talking line item to line items. $15 TE is project to score more than a $15 RB. That rolls all the way up to the studs.

 

[cvnpoka]

it seems best to pay big for 3-4 rbs, and then load up on wrs. im trying to work it to get 1 stud wr, 2 solid, and then like 4-6 upside fliers. none of the 3$ defenses are appealing at all but i really want to carry 3.

 

[maf005]

If you look at pt / $, you should go as thin at RB as possible. Both flexes at TE would be optimal IMO.

For last year, I went back the prior couple of years and costed out the average point per dollar for every position and cost.

As it turns out, points per dollar isn't by itself an optimal metric. There are a lot of situations where low cost players yielded the highest points per dollar, but because of their low cost, the net points aren't enough to crack the starting lineup.

I was talking line item to line items. $15 TE is project to score more than a $15 RB. That rolls all the way up to the studs.

assign every player a vbd score, then calculate that number per dollar spent

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

No shtick, I haven't even started working on my entry yet. I don't have a ton of free time, and what time I do have has been spent building the live scoring and some other cool stuff I've been working on. Looks like I'll be throwing together my own entry at the last minute, so I'll probably crack the final 250 for the first time in a few years.

 

[chocula]

Made some adjustments. I want to go stud heavy, but I am throwing the hail mary.

I am tempted to go for Jimmy Graham.

My concern with the team is having two WR from IND - R. Wayne and H. Nicks

Have I lost my mind with this team? I know it is mostly luck with this contest, but the stud teams seem to win.

Your team has been successfully entered.

QB - Peyton Manning - DEN/4 - $30
QB - Blake Bortles - JAX/11 - $3
RB - Jamaal Charles - KC/6 - $36
RB - Chris Johnson - NYJ/11 - $20
RB - Frank Gore - SF/8 - $16
RB - Jonathan Stewart - CAR/12 - $5
RB - DeAnthony Thomas - KC/6 - $2
WR - Calvin Johnson - DET/9 - $31
WR - Alshon Jeffery - CHI/9 - $24
WR - Reggie Wayne - IND/10 - $14
WR - Hakeem Nicks - IND/10 - $9
WR - Malcom Floyd - SD/10 - $4
WR - Mohamed Sanu - CIN/4 - $3
WR - Ace Sanders - JAX/11 - $2
TE - Jason Witten - DAL/11 - $18
TE - Timothy Wright - NE/10 - $5
TE - Levine Toilolo - ATL/9 - $5
PK - Stephen Gostkowski - NE/10 - $7
PK - Dan Bailey - DAL/11 - $4
TD - San Francisco 49ers - SF/8 - $7
TD - Chicago Bears - CHI/9 - $5

Total value: 250

 

[BassNBrew]

I keep hearing that stud teams win this contest, but my recollection is different. I recall more mid range rosters winning and when you factor in that 80-90% of the enters are smaller rosters, they should win most of the time.

 

[BassNBrew]

Some talk some sense into me. Just dropped Graham for Kelce, Wright, Jenkins, Dodson, Avant, and a 4th D.

 

[hagmania]

The 4th D probably isn't necessary.

I'm tempted to roster about 12 WRs though

 

[Jed]

Put together my best squad in years. Early exit for sure.

 

[ldizzle]

I dont know much about kickers but there are a few on there that might not even make their teams. Names off the top of my head are henery feely graham

 

[LittlePhatty]

I keep hearing that stud teams win this contest, but my recollection is different. I recall more mid range rosters winning and when you factor in that 80-90% of the enters are smaller rosters, they should win most of the time.

The "all studs" approach needs to be a little extra lucky to survive all the cuts, but if it makes it to the last 3 weeks, it probably has a slight advantage as we saw last year.

 

[cdubz]

I keep hearing that stud teams win this contest, but my recollection is different. I recall more mid range rosters winning and when you factor in that 80-90% of the enters are smaller rosters, they should win most of the time.

The "all studs" approach needs to be a little extra lucky to survive all the cuts, but if it makes it to the last 3 weeks, it probably has a slight advantage as we saw last year.

Also last year was a bit of an outlier as it was a 2 week championship instead of 3 IIRC. So stud teams should have done relatively better last year than other years.

 

[QuizGuy66]

No shtick, I haven't even started working on my entry yet. I don't have a ton of free time, and what time I do have has been spent building the live scoring and some other cool stuff I've been working on. Looks like I'll be throwing together my own entry at the last minute, so I'll probably crack the final 250 for the first time in a few years.

Iggybot can do all the calcuations in like 3 seconds though.

-QG

 

[QuizGuy66]

Some talk some sense into me. Just dropped Graham for Kelce, Wright, Jenkins, Dodson, Avant, and a 4th D.

You should replay Kelce and Wright with 5 additional kickers

-QG

 

[(HULK)]

I dont know much about kickers but there are a few on there that might not even make their teams. Names off the top of my head are henery feely graham

Should get answered today w/ final roster cuts.

 

[mphtrilogy]

this contest seems skewed towards the TE big time, how an you not draft like 5 of these guys? 1.5 is a huge advantage no?

 

[Modog814]

this contest seems skewed towards the TE big time, how an you not draft like 5 of these guys? 1.5 is a huge advantage no?

I'm not sure I'd call it an advantage. More of playing field leveler. Last year there were appx 5 TE's each week who got at least 6 Receptions, compared to 19.2 WR's each week who got at least 6 Rec. Adding the the extra half PPR, a TE would only need 4 receptions (ignoring TD's and yardage) to match WR's. About 15 TE's each week hit at least 4 Rec.

 

[Bankerguy]

I am really excited to reveal my team and see how it pans out.

-Bye week management has been my biggest focus this year.

-My worst week bye is a total of $39

-This is an 18 player team

i wanted to compare with others....what is the amount of your highest week in cap dollars spent on a single bye week?

 

[Steeler]

i wanted to compare with others....what is the amount of your highest week in cap dollars spent on a single bye week?

I have $79 worth of players on bye in week 4 But this was by design, I wanted to front-load bye weeks so I would have more players available as the year moves forward. Seems like a sound strategy as long as I get past week 4.

 

[brianj74]

I'll share mine:

QB - Philip Rivers - SD/10 - $12
QB - Jay Cutler - CHI/9 - $12
RB - Eddie Lacy - GB/9 - $28
RB - Toby Gerhart - JAX/11 - $21
RB - Frank Gore - SF/8 - $16
RB - Fred Jackson - BUF/9 - $12
RB - Jonathan Stewart - CAR/12 - $5
WR - Dez Bryant - DAL/11 - $27
WR - Emmanuel Sanders - DEN/4 - $18
WR - Torrey Smith - BAL/11 - $16
WR - Marques Colston - NO/6 - $16
WR - Justin Hunter - TEN/9 - $9
WR - Rod Streater - OAK/5 - $7
WR - Kelvin Benjamin - CAR/12 - $5
TE - Jimmy Graham - NO/6 - $30
TE - Joseph Fauria - DET/9 - $2
PK - Mike Nugent - CIN/4 - $3
PK - Adam Vinatieri - IND/10 - $3
TD - Carolina Panthers - CAR/12 - $4
TD - Buffalo Bills - BUF/9 - $4

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

I dont know much about kickers but there are a few on there that might not even make their teams. Names off the top of my head are henery feely graham

Should get answered today w/ final roster cuts.

Feely was cut 4 days ago.

 

[cvnpoka]

this contest seems skewed towards the TE big time, how an you not draft like 5 of these guys? 1.5 is a huge advantage no?

bc you can only start 3

 

[BaBastage]

Winding down here. Probably just tweaks from here on out.

QB 2 / $24RB 6 / $81WR 6 / $86TE 3 / $37PK 3 / $9TD 3 / $13I'd really like to get another TE, since their 1.5 PPR helps with the flex... we'll see if I bounce the dollars from rb or wr over there.

And I've got 18% of my dollars on week 9 byes. Aside from injuries, that's probably my Achilles' heel. Well, that and just picking the wrong guys.

 

[mphtrilogy]

this contest seems skewed towards the TE big time, how an you not draft like 5 of these guys? 1.5 is a huge advantage no?

bc you can only start 3

Doh!

Thanks!

Each week your top QB, top 2 RBs, top 2 WRs, top TE, top 2 flex (either RB, WR or TE), top PK and top Def/ST will count towards your weekly total. You do not have to select who will play. You will receive the maximum score based on your roster.

 

[bkterps]

Will they add Parkey to the list of available players to replace Henery, or is this list finalized?

 

[Pantherz]

The list is set.

 

[BaBastage]

i wanted to compare with others....what is the amount of your highest week in cap dollars spent on a single bye week?

I have $79 worth of players on bye in week 4 But this was by design, I wanted to front-load bye weeks so I would have more players available as the year moves forward. Seems like a sound strategy as long as I get past week 4.

It's a sound strategy. By week 4, junk entry teams are still being weeded out. In addition, the effect of injuries gets compounded later in the season. So if you're going to lean heavy on bye weeks, earlier is the way to go.

 

[Rhythmdoctor]

I must be getting close to a final version. Haven't changed my roster in 6 days now.

I'm in a similar situation. Which means I'll probalby make like 10 changes to my roster right against the deadline again.-QG

Im in the same boat.

 

[joey]

Haven't sniffed past week 10 or so in all the years they've been offering this contest, so I might as well share my roster (that I've tweaked about 20 times in the past 2 days)

QB - Tony Romo - DAL/11 - $14

QB - Philip Rivers - SD/10 - $12

RB - Marshawn Lynch - SEA/4 - $27

RB - Joique Bell - DET/9 - $21

RB - Ray Rice - BAL/11 - $18

RB - Andre Williams - NYG/8 - $7

RB - Jonathan Stewart - CAR/12 - $5

WR - Brandon Marshall - CHI/9 - $26

WR - Antonio Brown - PIT/12 - $22

WR - Cordarrelle Patterson - MIN/10 - $18

WR - Cody Latimer - DEN/4 - $6

WR - Kelvin Benjamin - CAR/12 - $5

TE - Jimmy Graham - NO/6 - $30

TE - Vernon Davis - SF/8 - $17

TE - Mychal Rivera - OAK/5 - $3

PK - Adam Vinatieri - IND/10 - $3

PK - Graham Gano - CAR/12 - $3

PK - Blair Walsh - MIN/10 - $3

TD - Carolina Panthers - CAR/12 - $4

TD - Tennessee Titans - TEN/9 - $3

TD - Indianapolis Colts - IND/10 - $3

 

[BillyJoeBob]

Haven't sniffed past week 10 or so in all the years they've been offering this contest, so I might as well share my roster (that I've tweaked about 20 times in the past 2 days)

...

PK - Adam Vinatieri - IND/10 - $3

PK - Graham Gano - CAR/12 - $3

PK - Blair Walsh - MIN/10 - $3

...

I would consider not having 2 PKs on bye the same week, especially late in the season. There are good kickers in the earlier rounds when the chances of getting through are much higher.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Some things I want to know....

- does committee crush any value at GB TE?

- will Harry Douglas get 70 receptions or will he timeshare with Deven Hester and only get 40?

- is 220 carries a reasonable floor for Moreno?

- touches for Sproles when you have McCoy?

- who wins: Rice or Pierce?

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

TE Consideration Pool

Graham, Gronk

Olsen, Pitta, Rudolph

Miller

Kelce

Lewis

Wright, Toilolo, Rodgers, Miller

Celek, Amaro, Rivera

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

WR Consideration Pool

(Top 6 given)

Nelson

Cobb, Brown, Harvin

Fitzgerald, White, Patterson

Sanders, Hilton, Edelman

Cooks, Tate

Cooper

Hartline, Evans

Baldwin, Nicks, Jennings, Boldin

Smith, Douglas, Dobson, Streater, Latimer

Moore, Benjamin, Wheaton

Lafell, Sanu, Bailey

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

RB Consideration Pool

(Top 4 given)

Bernard, Lacy, Murray, Foster

LBell, Martin, Vareen, Bush

JBell, CJ, Tate, Morris

Rice, Thomas, Gore, Sproles, MJD

Woodhead, Moreno, Hill, Pierce

Pierce, Michael, Hyde

Williams, McCluster, Blount

Starks, Stewart, Dwyer

Tolbert, White

Cunningham

Harris, Turbin

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Above for my benefit...if they aren't listed I'm not even considering them...trying to choose between 3 variations involving the above....

 

[bbuster]

Gonna try and not look at or do anything with the contest at all until 1 week is left. Don't think it's possible though.

At least do a quick preliminary one now so you don't forget

-QG

This! I've missed the contest 2 years in a row! I at least have a temporary roster set now just in case.

 

[cvnpoka]

they really should put their bye week next to all the players. would make it so much easier. on the bright side, i think i have every teams bye memorized now.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

they really should put their bye week next to all the players. would make it so much easier.

That's why they don't. I prefer it that way.

 

[FBALLGUY]

Feel free to comment. Work in progress. Thinking of switching out Murray for Moreno and B. Cooks. Steven Jackson scares me too but IF...and it's a huge IF...he can stay healthy, he'll get a ton of work.

Name/Bye Week

P. Rivers 10

J. Cutler 9

B. Bortles 11

D. Murray 11

A. Morris 10

S. Jackson 9

C. Hyde 8

J. Stewart 12

B. Cunningham 4

K. Allen 10

E. Sanders 4

T. Williams 11

T. Austin 4

S. Smith 11

K. Benjamin 12

M. Sanu 4

J. Graham 6

Z. Ertz 7

D. Bailey 11

G. Zuerlein 4

Rams D 4

Texans D 10

250 Spent 22 Players

 

[heckmanm]

Took the time to match up the prices with the VBD spreadsheet and calculate both points/$ and VBD/$. Also put in rough tiers for each position so the low-cost guys don't fly to the top of the points/$ rankings.

After a few ( ) tweaks, I am at 30 players and $250

• 4 QB, $33
• 6 RB, $83
• 10 WR, $80
• 4 TE, $36
• 3 PK, $9
• 3 DEF, $9

 

[17seconds]

they really should put their bye week next to all the players. would make it so much easier.

That's why they don't. I prefer it that way.

It's really not that hard to submit, look at the byes, then go back and adjust.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Finalized...

QB - 3 @ $25

RB - 6 @ $104

WR - 6 @ $74

TE - 4 @ $28

K - 3 @ $9

Def - 3 @ $10

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Finalized...

QB - 3 @ $25

RB - 6 @ $104

WR - 6 @ $74

TE - 4 @ $28

K - 3 @ $9

Def - 3 @ $10

I must be doing something wrong.....

QB 2 @ $32

RB 4 @ $76

WR 5 @ $54

TE 4 @ $69

PK 3 @ $9

TD 2 @ $10