2024-25 NBA Thread: Finals return after 3-month hiatus (159 Viewers)

[Major]

Just noticed they have Cooper. I'd love to know what their advertising budget is like compared to Nike. They're notoriously good quality shoes but equally bad at marketing them. When has NB been "cool" or trendy? Ever? Nike, otoh, seems to find ways to be relevant (and I think bringing back some key cogs will help them rebound as you can see a difference there already). Man they've done well with some pretty crappy products.

NB is a lot "cooler" nowadays especially for the younger generation. All types of collabs with guys like Action Bronson, high end designers like Commes De Garcons and even Rich Paul's brand Klutch. Dad shoes are all the rage

 

[ShamrockPride]

Jokic eyeing to add his 3rd 3-1 series comeback.

Series was never 3-1

Lolll thank you. I am idiot.

 

[Jayrod]

@Jayrod Alex Caruso is really damn good

He's a nice role player, but this wasn't exactly a standout game. His statline was about even with MPJ's.

I know he plays better defense, but he had zero rebounds, 5 fouls and smoked a couple of layups in the 2nd half and finished -4 while playing with the presumptive MVP and the deepest team in the league.

Did you watch the game?

Yes. He had a few nice moments late and his on ball defense is always good.

Good, not great, game from him.

I dot think you actually did watch. Caruso is a menace and has been incredible. If he played for Brad Stevens you would be all over him.

I think your gut feel is clouding the reality.

He's disruptive and made some excellent plays on defense. I would like it if he played with the Celtics.

He made 2 3's in the 4th quarter (one very tough at the end of the clock) and had some really nice assists. He had a great 4th quarter and was their 2nd best player down the stretch.

But they lost. He had 5 fouls and zero rebounds in 27 minutes. He had a bad sequence in the 4th where he got a great pass in the short corner and proceeded to miss the rim entirely on his layup and then fouled Gordon at halfcourt.

He was a non factor offensively for 3/4 of the game. It also looked like Jokic went right at him late in the game because he's too small to guard Jokic.

Again, good, not great game in a loss. Not sure why that's all that controversial or a crazy take.

 

[identikit]

Murray complains every possession

He wears New Balance

He has my vote there. Best shoes around.

Saucony for me

I just need something that fits my orthopedic inserts at this stage. #ballin

Those New Balance 9060's are game changers. Not sure I'll ever wear another shoe for walks/gym.

'They look great

And expensive

Yeah, I'm a cheapskate

Saucony Kinvara 13s (discontinued) are the pair that works the best for me

Major walker here (5-10 miles per day)

The 14s were crap

The 13s can be found online @ around $50

 

[msudaisy26]

@Jayrod Alex Caruso is really damn good

He's a nice role player, but this wasn't exactly a standout game. His statline was about even with MPJ's.

I know he plays better defense, but he had zero rebounds, 5 fouls and smoked a couple of layups in the 2nd half and finished -4 while playing with the presumptive MVP and the deepest team in the league.

Did you watch the game?

Yes. He had a few nice moments late and his on ball defense is always good.

Good, not great, game from him.

I dot think you actually did watch. Caruso is a menace and has been incredible. If he played for Brad Stevens you would be all over him.

If he played for Steve Kerr, Boston fans would want him deported.

 

[msudaisy26]

Great job by the Nuggets. Unless OKC wins the title this year they should look back to game one as the turning point. They gave that game away, it could cost them the series and even if they do win game seven they are going against a well rested and very dangerous Twolves team.

 

[MAC_32]

Oh Max

Role players need to be role players. When your 28 year old #7 guy with a negative career BPM is trying to be the vocal leader that's not a good sign.

Yep, but role players feel like they need to go over their skis when the core is pillow soft.

Is Donovan Mitchell just not liked or is he scared to lead? He's clearly "the guy" on that team, but maybe he's not a leader?

Not everyone has it in them to lead others. I feel like Atkinson has been overblown as a coach prior to this as well. Maybe its on him? NBA culture is difficult to navigate, IMO. If you don't have a rep that precedes you (like Pop or Kerr) you have to either be a player's coach or some kind of X's & O's genius to get the players to buy in. But the players make the team. Maybe it doesn't matter who the coach is. The Bucks won because of Giannis & Jrue, not Bud. Vogel won because of LeBron & AD, not him. Players can overcome a coach, but I don't think the opposite is true.

Tl;Dr - Donovan ain't the problem

I'll unpack all my thoughts sooner vs later, but workload says that's probably not this week.

Alright, found some time this morning - so what made this team different than the Bickerstaff Cavs was this truly was a team. Atkinson used data to demonstrate to Donovan that their hitting a wall late in the season was very predictable. He took on too much of the workload, which resulted in diminishing returns as both individual games and the season went on. In order for this team to unlock the next level, he needed to cede some of this work to others. Give others opportunities to run the show, whoever the hot hand was that night, let them run with it, then he picks and chooses his spots to be alpha, but he does so fresh. No one could've predicted it'd result in such a hot start, but that's what happens when you roll it back. This is a group that genuinely gets along well together, they didn't need time to gel, and Donovan bought into what Kenny was selling. They all played less minutes than prior seasons, resulting in better health, and with Mitchell delegating more work to others he didn't burn out. 'Cavalance' became a fun schtick this season, but the above is why it was so frequent. The opposition never knew where it'd come from on any one given night.

I don't recall exactly when the team started managing minutes, but it was sometime in early March, probably on the heels of the 3rd extended winning streak. The objective was to ensure these guys were fresh mid-April unlike previous iterations when Donovan routinely played 40+ minutes in the lead-up to the postseason. I didn't put much stock into the 8-8 finish and thought that was confirmed when they steam rolled a checked out Miami team +122. So what changed? And while health played a role, the Pacers season going down like it did was way bigger than that.

They weren't mentally prepared to deal with this team. How that played out in each game varied, but all the bad habits this team used to have returned. When things tightened up, Jarrett Allen played small - 6 rebounds in the final 2 games is inexcusable and he was a non-factor on offense. When things tightened up, and despite him playing well, Mobley didn't demand the ball. When things tightened up, so did Darius. I salute what the Pacers did to Hunter, they got in his head, and it impacted his performance. As a result, Donovan was asked to do too much. Then the others (Max, Jerome, Merrill, etc) were put in position in which they had to do more than just their role, instead of what they were accustomed to - if you're on, run with it, if you're not, defer. Combine that with the Pacers style of play and this team's head was in a blender from the outset and when the going got hard, they folded.

And that last part is why this is on the players. It's not a perfect copy-and-paste, but this series went remarkably similar to the one against the Kicks in 2023. They got bullied early, waxed when they got to the pivot point of the series, and went down in 5 on their home court with Donovan feeling like he had to play hero ball because everyone else around him got small. This is a soft team. Soft teams can win in the regular season with enough talent, but they're dead men walking now. The problem is...nothing can be done about it. While I think I am very well adept at the NFL salary cap, to say I'm under-informed with the NBA's is a vast under statement. That said, I now have cliff notes on what it means to be in the second apron, which is apparently where the Cavs are. And due to that, nothing can be done about this roster. We're stuck with this pillow soft talented team and all we can do is hope they learn how to develop toughness (mental much more than physical) over the next 11 months. I'm writing this thinking that unlike the last few regular seasons, the 25-26 may not be enjoyable, which sucks...hard, because nothing they do until round 2 next year matters. And I've lost faith they can overcome whoever they face when that time comes.

Fin

 

[Navin Johnson]

Kerr was fortunate enough to take over a team that had a great young core in Steph, Klay, and Draymond with some solid role players. Mark Jackson got that group to improve the team's win total by 28 wins before Kerr came to town. And then they had KD fall in their laps. Not sure that required great coaching. All Kerr had to do was stay out of the way. I get it, great teams need great players, but I'm not sure Kerr is some otherworldly head coach. Put another way, I think the Warriors would have been just as good with another coach.

They wouldn't have won that first title with Jackson. The players didn't like him.

Maybe so. I can't say I remember much about the pre-Kerr Warriors. Maybe Kerr got them to get along and play a little better before they hit their prime. Since Kerr got to GS, who did they draft and develop that wasn't already on the roster? Their success has mostly stemmed from the 4 HOF guys (Steph, Klay, Dray, and KD). Those guys were all great. But I can't think of another player in 11 seasons that GS drafted and developed that has been a big contributor (either for the Warriors or another team). Maybe the next guy after that group that has been a long-time player was probably Wiggins . . . but he was already established in his time with MIN. Keeping your main 3 cogs together for that long was a huge accomplishment in its own right.

Did they not improve under Kerr? I forget

 

[Navin Johnson]

Guys I specifically said no dumb arguments while I’m gone.

Grave danger?

 

[identikit]

Guys I specifically said no dumb arguments while I’m gone.

Grave danger?

Is there any other kind?

 

[Anarchy99]

Not buying into this at all, but here's the updated percentages of winning the title according to Basketball Reference:
OKC - 59.9%, BOS - 12.5%, MIN 11.7%, NYK - 7.0%, DEN - 5.1%, IND - 3.8%

 

[SWC]

Kerr was fortunate enough to take over a team that had a great young core in Steph, Klay, and Draymond with some solid role players. Mark Jackson got that group to improve the team's win total by 28 wins before Kerr came to town. And then they had KD fall in their laps. Not sure that required great coaching. All Kerr had to do was stay out of the way. I get it, great teams need great players, but I'm not sure Kerr is some otherworldly head coach. Put another way, I think the Warriors would have been just as good with another coach.

They wouldn't have won that first title with Jackson. The players didn't like him.

Maybe so. I can't say I remember much about the pre-Kerr Warriors. Maybe Kerr got them to get along and play a little better before they hit their prime. Since Kerr got to GS, who did they draft and develop that wasn't already on the roster? Their success has mostly stemmed from the 4 HOF guys (Steph, Klay, Dray, and KD). Those guys were all great. But I can't think of another player in 11 seasons that GS drafted and developed that has been a big contributor (either for the Warriors or another team). Maybe the next guy after that group that has been a long-time player was probably Wiggins . . . but he was already established in his time with MIN. Keeping your main 3 cogs together for that long was a huge accomplishment in its own right.

Did they not improve under Kerr? I forget

people have to acknowledge the way that the golden state warriors and specifically them under kerr and analytics have changed the entire game when steph came into the league in 2008 the league was still dominated by mid range jump shots something like 30 percent of all shots were mid range jumpers while only like 22 to 23 percent were three point attempts steve kerr takes over in 2014 and it is a year or two later that there are an equal number of mid range jumpers at three point shots at about 27 percent, and since then like 35 percent of all shots or more are threes while mid range jumpers have declined to about 15 percent of all shots basically in the time that kerr coached the warriors the percentages flipped and looking at shot charts for someone like jordan versus poopbeard really hammers home how much the game is now behind the arc so in my mind kerr was a guy who saw what he had saw how the game was changing and then lead that change and did it better than anyone else with titles in 15 17 18 and 22 with five consecutive finals appearances and he also won the olympics in 24 i means thats a long sustained period of success in a changing game and that is impressive as hell to me take that to the bank brohans

 

[Moe.]

Not buying into this at all, but here's the updated percentages of winning the title according to Basketball Reference:
OKC - 59.9%, BOS - 12.5%, MIN 11.7%, NYK - 7.0%, DEN - 5.1%, IND - 3.8%

The Denver series has made it clear that OKC isn’t as good as the stats would have you believe.

 

[Moe.]

Not to take anything away from Denver (or the Thunder for that matter) but the Thunder are clearly not head and shoulders above the competition like the numbers would imply. Regardless of how this plays out from here I think Presti will need to be active this offseason. Like it or not their window is now. In hindsight they should have done more at the deadline this year - Cam Johnson would be really nice to have right now.

 

[thecatch]

Not to take anything away from Denver (or the Thunder for that matter) but the Thunder are clearly not head and shoulders above the competition like the numbers would imply. Regardless of how this plays out from here I think Presti will need to be active this offseason. Like it or not their window is now. In hindsight they should have done more at the deadline this year - Cam Johnson would be really nice to have right now.

Was listening to a podcast yesterday reporting the rumor that OKC doesn't want to pursue Giannis because of his salary. Seems to me if you are that close and you can add one of the 3 best players in the league, you should be able to deal with the luxury tax hit that comes with it.

 

[Zow]

Not buying into this at all, but here's the updated percentages of winning the title according to Basketball Reference:
OKC - 59.9%, BOS - 12.5%, MIN 11.7%, NYK - 7.0%, DEN - 5.1%, IND - 3.8%

The Denver series has made it clear that OKC isn’t as good as the stats would have you believe.

I don't know man, Denver does have the best player in the planet. I think it says more about Jokic than it does OKC.

I tend to agree.

As a Wolves fan, I really am hoping Denver wins. OKC is so deep and so good as all facets of the game. They're just running into the best player in the game.

 

[Moe.]

Not buying into this at all, but here's the updated percentages of winning the title according to Basketball Reference:
OKC - 59.9%, BOS - 12.5%, MIN 11.7%, NYK - 7.0%, DEN - 5.1%, IND - 3.8%

The Denver series has made it clear that OKC isn’t as good as the stats would have you believe.

I don't know man, Denver does have the best player on the planet. I think it says more about Jokic than it does OKC.

Yeah, he’s amazing, and Denver as a whole are probably better than your average 4 seed. Jokic hasn’t been at his best this series though, but a lot of that is the Thunder’s defense I guess. I’m just saying that OKC isn’t some generational team - this series would be over if that were the case.

 

[Moe.]

Not buying into this at all, but here's the updated percentages of winning the title according to Basketball Reference:
OKC - 59.9%, BOS - 12.5%, MIN 11.7%, NYK - 7.0%, DEN - 5.1%, IND - 3.8%

The Denver series has made it clear that OKC isn’t as good as the stats would have you believe.

I don't know man, Denver does have the best player in the planet. I think it says more about Jokic than it does OKC.

I tend to agree.

As a Wolves fan, I really am hoping Denver wins. OKC is so deep and so good as all facets of the game. They're just running into the best player in the game.

They’d be better off consolidating some of that depth and upgrading somewhere. Having the best 9th and 10th guys in the league is nice, but it’s more of a regular season benefit.

They are still the favorite to win and gun to my head they’d be my pick, but the gap is not nearly as large as the regular season stats and record would indicate.

 

[Major]

Not buying into this at all, but here's the updated percentages of winning the title according to Basketball Reference:
OKC - 59.9%, BOS - 12.5%, MIN 11.7%, NYK - 7.0%, DEN - 5.1%, IND - 3.8%

The Denver series has made it clear that OKC isn’t as good as the stats would have you believe.

I don't know man, Denver does have the best player on the planet. I think it says more about Jokic than it does OKC.

Yeah, he’s amazing, and Denver as a whole are probably better than your average 4 seed. Jokic hasn’t been at his best this series though, but a lot of that is the Thunder’s defense I guess. I’m just saying that OKC isn’t some generational team - this series would be over if that were the case.

Yeah, people who get caught up in the West seeding aren't looking close enough. It was a game or two dividing most teams with the #2 seed probably being the worst of the 2-7 seeds.

 

[Redwes25]

Kerr was fortunate enough to take over a team that had a great young core in Steph, Klay, and Draymond with some solid role players. Mark Jackson got that group to improve the team's win total by 28 wins before Kerr came to town. And then they had KD fall in their laps. Not sure that required great coaching. All Kerr had to do was stay out of the way. I get it, great teams need great players, but I'm not sure Kerr is some otherworldly head coach. Put another way, I think the Warriors would have been just as good with another coach.

They wouldn't have won that first title with Jackson. The players didn't like him.

Maybe so. I can't say I remember much about the pre-Kerr Warriors. Maybe Kerr got them to get along and play a little better before they hit their prime. Since Kerr got to GS, who did they draft and develop that wasn't already on the roster? Their success has mostly stemmed from the 4 HOF guys (Steph, Klay, Dray, and KD). Those guys were all great. But I can't think of another player in 11 seasons that GS drafted and developed that has been a big contributor (either for the Warriors or another team). Maybe the next guy after that group that has been a long-time player was probably Wiggins . . . but he was already established in his time with MIN. Keeping your main 3 cogs together for that long was a huge accomplishment in its own right.

Did they not improve under Kerr? I forget

people have to acknowledge the way that the golden state warriors and specifically them under kerr and analytics have changed the entire game when steph came into the league in 2008 the league was still dominated by mid range jump shots something like 30 percent of all shots were mid range jumpers while only like 22 to 23 percent were three point attempts steve kerr takes over in 2014 and it is a year or two later that there are an equal number of mid range jumpers at three point shots at about 27 percent, and since then like 35 percent of all shots or more are threes while mid range jumpers have declined to about 15 percent of all shots basically in the time that kerr coached the warriors the percentages flipped and looking at shot charts for someone like jordan versus poopbeard really hammers home how much the game is now behind the arc so in my mind kerr was a guy who saw what he had saw how the game was changing and then lead that change and did it better than anyone else with titles in 15 17 18 and 22 with five consecutive finals appearances and he also won the olympics in 24 i means thats a long sustained period of success in a changing game and that is impressive as hell to me take that to the bank brohans

I always took that Kerr saw what D'Antoni did with the Suns (given he was GM) who lead league in three point shots I think three year in a row and replicated it in Golden State which had even better personel to fit that play style. I think the writing was on the wall on an explosion of three point shoting in mid to late 2000s.

​

ETA - He also asked his team to play actual defense which D'Antoni never did.

 

[Mister CIA]

There's mean, and then there's savage.

https://x.com/duolingo/status/1922679300500619322

 

[Kev4029]

Not buying into this at all, but here's the updated percentages of winning the title according to Basketball Reference:
OKC - 59.9%, BOS - 12.5%, MIN 11.7%, NYK - 7.0%, DEN - 5.1%, IND - 3.8%

The Denver series has made it clear that OKC isn’t as good as the stats would have you believe.

I don't know man, Denver does have the best player in the planet. I think it says more about Jokic than it does OKC.

I tend to agree.

As a Wolves fan, I really am hoping Denver wins. OKC is so deep and so good as all facets of the game. They're just running into the best player in the game.

They’d be better off consolidating some of that depth and upgrading somewhere. Having the best 9th and 10th guys in the league is nice, but it’s more of a regular season benefit.

They are still the favorite to win and gun to my head they’d be my pick, but the gap is not nearly as large as the regular season stats and record would indicate.

I thought the Nuggets were probably the 3rd or 4th best team in the league this year (OKC, CLE, probably BOS), they just had a weird year. The Thunder aren't in a competitive series because they aren't as good as we thought, it's because Denver is better than we thought and Jokic is still by far the best player in the league.

 

[Kev4029]

There's mean, and then there's savage.

https://x.com/duolingo/status/1922679300500619322

Duolingo is legitimately one of the funniest Twitter accounts going.

 

[mr. furley]

There's mean, and then there's savage.

https://x.com/duolingo/status/1922679300500619322

is he jumping with 2 blown ACL's? what was that?

 

[SWC]

There's mean, and then there's savage.

https://x.com/duolingo/status/1922679300500619322

Duolingo is legitimately one of the funniest Twitter accounts going.

can someone please explain to this old boy why duallingo has that up that made me laugh take that to the bank brohans

 

[Mister CIA]

There's mean, and then there's savage.

https://x.com/duolingo/status/1922679300500619322

Duolingo is legitimately one of the funniest Twitter accounts going.

can someone please explain to this old boy why duallingo has that up that made me laugh take that to the bank brohans

It's an expression, "Get ready to learn Chinese, Buddy," applied to guys who are not quite good enough to make it in the NBA, but are good enough to play professionally in China. I think it could apply to players with discipline issues too. Usually included as a caption with an Adam Silver pic.

 

[Moe.]

Not buying into this at all, but here's the updated percentages of winning the title according to Basketball Reference:
OKC - 59.9%, BOS - 12.5%, MIN 11.7%, NYK - 7.0%, DEN - 5.1%, IND - 3.8%

The Denver series has made it clear that OKC isn’t as good as the stats would have you believe.

I don't know man, Denver does have the best player in the planet. I think it says more about Jokic than it does OKC.

I tend to agree.

As a Wolves fan, I really am hoping Denver wins. OKC is so deep and so good as all facets of the game. They're just running into the best player in the game.

They’d be better off consolidating some of that depth and upgrading somewhere. Having the best 9th and 10th guys in the league is nice, but it’s more of a regular season benefit.

They are still the favorite to win and gun to my head they’d be my pick, but the gap is not nearly as large as the regular season stats and record would indicate.

I thought the Nuggets were probably the 3rd or 4th best team in the league this year (OKC, CLE, probably BOS), they just had a weird year. The Thunder aren't in a competitive series because they aren't as good as we thought, it's because Denver is better than we thought and Jokic is still by far the best player in the league.

I think both are true. I don’t think there’s any doubt that the Thunder are overrated from a statistical modeling perspective, which was the original post to which I replied. I could have phrased it better. Giving them a 60% chance to win the title when they have a single elimination game coming up is preposterous.

 

[Anarchy99]

Currently right next to the other Garden in Green Country. Let’s go C’s and get this to a Game 7.

 

[mr. furley]

There's mean, and then there's savage.

https://x.com/duolingo/status/1922679300500619322

Duolingo is legitimately one of the funniest Twitter accounts going.

can someone please explain to this old boy why duallingo has that up that made me laugh take that to the bank brohans

It's an expression, "Get ready to learn Chinese, Buddy," applied to guys who are not quite good enough to make it in the NBA, but are good enough to play professionally in China. I think it could apply to players with discipline issues too. Usually included as a caption with an Adam Silver pic.

think he means why is Duolingo torching the guy like that?

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

Usually included as a caption with an Adam Silver pic

I like the ones that show him on the phone along with a caption of the most recent conspiracy theory.

 

[msudaisy26]

I would start a gofundme for any team that would take Porzingus this summer, if I was a Celtic fan.

 

[identikit]

About time the good Kat showed up

 

[Mister CIA]

There's mean, and then there's savage.

https://x.com/duolingo/status/1922679300500619322

Duolingo is legitimately one of the funniest Twitter accounts going.

can someone please explain to this old boy why duallingo has that up that made me laugh take that to the bank brohans

It's an expression, "Get ready to learn Chinese, Buddy," applied to guys who are not quite good enough to make it in the NBA, but are good enough to play professionally in China. I think it could apply to players with discipline issues too. Usually included as a caption with an Adam Silver pic.

think he means why is Duolingo torching the guy like that?

Do you speak jive too?

 

[msudaisy26]

Celtics look awful.

 

[mr. furley]

There's mean, and then there's savage.

https://x.com/duolingo/status/1922679300500619322

Duolingo is legitimately one of the funniest Twitter accounts going.

can someone please explain to this old boy why duallingo has that up that made me laugh take that to the bank brohans

It's an expression, "Get ready to learn Chinese, Buddy," applied to guys who are not quite good enough to make it in the NBA, but are good enough to play professionally in China. I think it could apply to players with discipline issues too. Usually included as a caption with an Adam Silver pic.

think he means why is Duolingo torching the guy like that?

Do you speak jive too?

for $45/hr i'll do anything

 

[General Malaise]

Guess I'll watch NHL tonight.

 

[identikit]

There's mean, and then there's savage.

https://x.com/duolingo/status/1922679300500619322

Duolingo is legitimately one of the funniest Twitter accounts going.

can someone please explain to this old boy why duallingo has that up that made me laugh take that to the bank brohans

It's an expression, "Get ready to learn Chinese, Buddy," applied to guys who are not quite good enough to make it in the NBA, but are good enough to play professionally in China. I think it could apply to players with discipline issues too. Usually included as a caption with an Adam Silver pic.

think he means why is Duolingo torching the guy like that?

Do you speak jive too?

for $45/hr i'll do anything

 

[Zow]

Guess I'll watch NHL tonight.

Go Leafs!

 

[Frostillicus]

What are some other trades in any sport that worked out well for both sides like the KAT/Randle/DDV trade?

 

[General Malaise]

Who will be the next Celtics' coach and how will their fans react when it's Steve Kerr?

 

[Mister CIA]

Josh Hart is tough.

 

[General Malaise]

What are some other trades in any sport that worked out well for both sides like the KAT/Randle/DDV trade?

Herschel Walker trade was a good one.

 

[Yo Mama]

What are some other trades in any sport that worked out well for both sides like the KAT/Randle/DDV trade?

Luka for AD/Flagg

 

[identikit]

Who will be the next Celtics' coach and how will their fans react when it's Steve Kerr?

Second Row Joe's win-by-shooting 100s of 3s strategery hasn't held up this playoff

 

[msudaisy26]

What are some other trades in any sport that worked out well for both sides like the KAT/Randle/DDV trade?

Stafford to Rams and Goff and picks to the Lions.

 

[msudaisy26]

Who will be the next Celtics' coach and how will their fans react when it's Steve Kerr?

Finally get to see Kerr develop Tatum.

 

[Yo Mama]

Oh man, I just saw Aaron Gordon might miss game 7 due to a hamstring strain that was bugging him at the end of game 6. Would be a big loss for Denver.

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

What are some other trades in any sport that worked out well for both sides like the KAT/Randle/DDV trade?

Bill Cartwright to Chicago, Charles Oakley to New York.

Cartwright had no place to play in New York, and Oakley had lost his job to Horace Grant. The Knicks needed a power forward alongside Ewing, and the Bulls needed a defensive minded center alongside Grant.

 

[Frostillicus]

Oh man, I just saw Aaron Gordon might miss game 7 due to a hamstring strain that was bugging him at the end of game 6. Would be a big loss for Denver.

Well that would suck.

 

[Redwes25]

I am still nervous