2024 FBG Subscriber Contest (8 Viewers)

[Hot Sauce Guy]

@TheWinz where did the data land on 2 vs 3 TD and PK?

It’s Winz but definitely 3 K and 2 teams. Teams you never have to worrry about getting ‘hurt’ or ‘cut’

Winz , myself and others have both been bit over the years(especially two years ago) with the injury & cut bug at kicker.

I’m sitting at 2x k right now, thinking I need to add a 3rd, but man I really like my build right now.

 

[bamabuddha]

@TheWinz where did the data land on 2 vs 3 TD and PK?

It’s Winz but definitely 3 K and 2 teams. Teams you never have to worrry about getting ‘hurt’ or ‘cut’

Winz , myself and others have both been bit over the years(especially two years ago) with the injury & cut bug at kicker.

I’m sitting at 2x k right now, thinking I need to add a 3rd, but man I really like my build right now.

2 kickers is not bad if you feel they are steady kickers but if you are torn between 2 K’s and 3 D’s that is where the suggestion is to flip it and go 3k’s , 2 D’s.

 

[bamabuddha]

And I am with you…have made 5 switches but currently liking my 25 player team…gonna let it marinade for a bit before looking at it again…and inevitably changing it.

 

[IHEARTFF]

done about 25 changes so far and figured I should take a break to bring a snapshot of current team here for critique and laughs

QB - Kyler Murray - ARI/11 - $20
QB - Kirk Cousins - ATL/12 - $15
I've only cycled through about 10 different qbs so far. Some version of 2 high producers for not crazy cost is what I want.

RB - Kenneth Walker III - SEA/10 - $20
RB - D'Andre Swift - CHI/7 - $17
RB - Javonte Williams - DEN/14 - $14
RB - Rico Dowdle - DAL/7 - $8
RB - Jaylen Wright - MIA/6 - $7
RB - Trey Sermon - IND/14 - $3
Seems like I can get good production for decent value here.

WR - Amari Cooper - CLE/10 - $20
WR - Malik Nabers - NYG/11 - $19
WR - Ladd McConkey - LAC/5 - $14
WR - Rashee Rice - KC/6 - $13
WR - Michael Wilson - ARI/11 - $10
WR - Jameson Williams - DET/5 - $10
WR - Tutu Atwell - LAR/6 - $4
Small stack with Wilson. Nabers and Rice are never leaving any version I do unless Rice gets suspended before contest closes.

TE - Kyle Pitts - ATL/12 - $17
TE - George Kittle - SF/9 - $15
TE - Tucker Kraft - GB/10 - $7
TE - Theo Johnson - NYG/11 - $4
Big stack to Pitts and should get some random starts here.

PK - Cameron Dicker - LAC/5 - $4
PK - Cam Little - JAX/12 - $3
Let he who does not have Little Dicker cast the first stone.

TD - Arizona Cardinals - ARI/11 - $3
TD - Los Angeles Rams - LAR/6 - $3
Cheap 2x with different byes.

 

[msudaisy26]

done about 25 changes so far and figured I should take a break to bring a snapshot of current team here for critique and laughs

QB - Kyler Murray - ARI/11 - $20
QB - Kirk Cousins - ATL/12 - $15
I've only cycled through about 10 different qbs so far. Some version of 2 high producers for not crazy cost is what I want.

RB - Kenneth Walker III - SEA/10 - $20
RB - D'Andre Swift - CHI/7 - $17
RB - Javonte Williams - DEN/14 - $14
RB - Rico Dowdle - DAL/7 - $8
RB - Jaylen Wright - MIA/6 - $7
RB - Trey Sermon - IND/14 - $3
Seems like I can get good production for decent value here.

WR - Amari Cooper - CLE/10 - $20
WR - Malik Nabers - NYG/11 - $19
WR - Ladd McConkey - LAC/5 - $14
WR - Rashee Rice - KC/6 - $13
WR - Michael Wilson - ARI/11 - $10
WR - Jameson Williams - DET/5 - $10
WR - Tutu Atwell - LAR/6 - $4
Small stack with Wilson. Nabers and Rice are never leaving any version I do unless Rice gets suspended before contest closes.

TE - Kyle Pitts - ATL/12 - $17
TE - George Kittle - SF/9 - $15
TE - Tucker Kraft - GB/10 - $7
TE - Theo Johnson - NYG/11 - $4
Big stack to Pitts and should get some random starts here.

PK - Cameron Dicker - LAC/5 - $4
PK - Cam Little - JAX/12 - $3
Let he who does not have Little Dicker cast the first stone.

TD - Arizona Cardinals - ARI/11 - $3
TD - Los Angeles Rams - LAR/6 - $3
Cheap 2x with different byes.

Are you worried if the Falcons have a poor record that they will turn to Penix after how well he played last night?

 

[IHEARTFF]

done about 25 changes so far and figured I should take a break to bring a snapshot of current team here for critique and laughs

QB - Kyler Murray - ARI/11 - $20
QB - Kirk Cousins - ATL/12 - $15
I've only cycled through about 10 different qbs so far. Some version of 2 high producers for not crazy cost is what I want.

RB - Kenneth Walker III - SEA/10 - $20
RB - D'Andre Swift - CHI/7 - $17
RB - Javonte Williams - DEN/14 - $14
RB - Rico Dowdle - DAL/7 - $8
RB - Jaylen Wright - MIA/6 - $7
RB - Trey Sermon - IND/14 - $3
Seems like I can get good production for decent value here.

WR - Amari Cooper - CLE/10 - $20
WR - Malik Nabers - NYG/11 - $19
WR - Ladd McConkey - LAC/5 - $14
WR - Rashee Rice - KC/6 - $13
WR - Michael Wilson - ARI/11 - $10
WR - Jameson Williams - DET/5 - $10
WR - Tutu Atwell - LAR/6 - $4
Small stack with Wilson. Nabers and Rice are never leaving any version I do unless Rice gets suspended before contest closes.

TE - Kyle Pitts - ATL/12 - $17
TE - George Kittle - SF/9 - $15
TE - Tucker Kraft - GB/10 - $7
TE - Theo Johnson - NYG/11 - $4
Big stack to Pitts and should get some random starts here.

PK - Cameron Dicker - LAC/5 - $4
PK - Cam Little - JAX/12 - $3
Let he who does not have Little Dicker cast the first stone.

TD - Arizona Cardinals - ARI/11 - $3
TD - Los Angeles Rams - LAR/6 - $3
Cheap 2x with different byes.

Are you worried if the Falcons have a poor record that they will turn to Penix after how well he played last night?

Yes that is a risk. Not sure what the odds are.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Are you worried if the Falcons have a poor record that they will turn to Penix after how well he played last night?

Personally I’m not concerned about anything from game 1 of the preseason against backups in a vanilla defensive scheme other than injury.

 

[msudaisy26]

Are you worried if the Falcons have a poor record that they will turn to Penix after how well he played last night?

Personally I’m not concerned about anything from game 1 of the preseason against backups in a vanilla defensive scheme other than injury.

It isn't just that. Cousins is coming off an achilles and if their record is bad you don't think they are going to take a look at their 1st round, top ten rookie qb?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

It isn't just that. Cousins is coming off an achilles and if their record is bad you don't think they are going to take a look at their 1st round, top ten rookie qb?

I would need additional data points to answer that.

Define “record is bad” and I would need to know “by what week”?

If there are a .500 team around week eight, the division they’re in is sufficiently weak that I doubt they make a change.

If there is 500 team, after that point, sure, I could see it happening.

But that brings me back to the week division. I’m skeptical. They will have a bad enough record to mention him because that division is not great.

 

[msudaisy26]

It isn't just that. Cousins is coming off an achilles and if their record is bad you don't think they are going to take a look at their 1st round, top ten rookie qb?

I would need additional data points to answer that.

Define “record is bad” and I would need to know “by what week”?

If there are a .500 team around week eight, the division they’re in is sufficiently weak that I doubt they make a change.

If there is 500 team, after that point, sure, I could see it happening.

But that brings me back to the week division. I’m skeptical. They will have a bad enough record to mention him because that division is not great.

If they are out of playoff contention by week 12ish.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

If they are out of playoff contention by week 12ish.

Then probably, yeah.

But IMO they’re very likely to be in the thick of things.

Last year there were 2x 9-8 teams, the rudderless Falcons (who still managed to be 7-10) and a 2-win Panthers team.

If 1 over .500 gets you in the playoffs, the Falcons would have to be significantly worse than last year… with Cousins.

Just doesn’t seem likely.

 

[msudaisy26]

If they are out of playoff contention by week 12ish.

Then probably, yeah.

But IMO they’re very likely to be in the thick of things.

Last year there were 2x 9-8 teams, the rudderless Falcons (who still managed to be 7-10) and a 2-win Panthers team.

If 1 over .500 gets you in the playoffs, the Falcons would have to be significantly worse than last year… with Cousins.

Just doesn’t seem likely.

But there are so many red flags and so many other qbs in that price range without those flags.

 

[joey]

Regarding Kicker….

I think @TheWinz has posted stats many times showing that 3 $3 Ks outperform higher priced kickers in this best ball format. The trick is rostering $3 kickers who don’t get cut during the season (ignoring bad luck of injuries as well, of course).

So for this year’s contest, here are the $3 kickers:
$3-J Karty LAR/6
$3-J Slye NE/14
$3-N Folk TEN/5
$3-W Reichard MIN/6
$3-G Gano NYG/11
$3-J Bates DET/5
$3-C Little JAX/12

I don’t follow kickers closely but I feel like Gano, Slye and Folk, while “boring” selections, might be the safest names.
I’ve hoesntly never heard of Karty, Reichard or Little, and I heard UFL darling, Bates, might already have competition in camp.


Can anyone shed light on the above kicker situations?

 

[IHEARTFF]

Regarding Kicker….

I think @TheWinz has posted stats many times showing that 3 $3 Ks outperform higher priced kickers in this best ball format. The trick is rostering $3 kickers who don’t get cut during the season (ignoring bad luck of injuries as well, of course).

So for this year’s contest, here are the $3 kickers:
$3-J Karty LAR/6
$3-J Slye NE/14
$3-N Folk TEN/5
$3-W Reichard MIN/6
$3-G Gano NYG/11
$3-J Bates DET/5
$3-C Little JAX/12

I don’t follow kickers closely but I feel like Gano, Slye and Folk, while “boring” selections, might be the safest names.
I’ve hoesntly never heard of Karty, Reichard or Little, and I heard UFL darling, Bates, might already have competition in camp.


Can anyone shed light on the above kicker situations?

Detroits kicker situation is tenuous at best. Little is the Jags rookie and imo should be highly owned.

 

[joey]

Regarding Kicker….

I think @TheWinz has posted stats many times showing that 3 $3 Ks outperform higher priced kickers in this best ball format. The trick is rostering $3 kickers who don’t get cut during the season (ignoring bad luck of injuries as well, of course).

So for this year’s contest, here are the $3 kickers:
$3-J Karty LAR/6
$3-J Slye NE/14
$3-N Folk TEN/5
$3-W Reichard MIN/6
$3-G Gano NYG/11
$3-J Bates DET/5
$3-C Little JAX/12

I don’t follow kickers closely but I feel like Gano, Slye and Folk, while “boring” selections, might be the safest names.
I’ve hoesntly never heard of Karty, Reichard or Little, and I heard UFL darling, Bates, might already have competition in camp.


Can anyone shed light on the above kicker situations?

Detroits kicker situation is tenuous at best. Little is the Jags rookie and imo should be highly owned.

Thanks for the info on both. Will look at Little for sure.

Good thing about these $3 is they all have different bye weeks (except for Folk and Bates), which is a huge plus in this contest.

 

[IHEARTFF]

To elaborate a bit more on Little, Jags picked him in rd 6. Touted as one of the most accurate kickers in ncaa history. Jax is good offense in good weather home and division domes.

 

[rustycolts]

My latest attempt. 1k , 1d.

QB - Baker Mayfield - TB/11 - $14
QB - Deshaun Watson - CLE/10 - $12
RB - Raheem Mostert - MIA/6 - $16
RB - Devin Singletary - NYG/11 - $15
RB - Khalil Herbert - CHI/7 - $7
RB - Ray Davis - BUF/12 - $6
RB - Alexander Mattison - LV/10 - $6
RB - Justice Hill - BAL/14 - $2
WR - Jaylen Waddle - MIA/6 - $22
WR - Stefon Diggs - HOU/14 - $20
WR - Calvin Ridley - TEN/5 - $15
WR - Adam Thielen - CAR/11 - $12
WR - Curtis Samuel - BUF/12 - $11
WR - Khalil Shakir - BUF/12 - $10
WR - Gabe Davis - JAX/12 - $10
WR - Quentin Johnston - LAC/5 - $9
WR - Tyler Boyd - TEN/5 - $8
WR - Elijah Moore - CLE/10 - $7
WR - Darius Slayton - NYG/11 - $7
WR - Javon Baker - NE/14 - $6
TE - George Kittle - SF/9 - $15
TE - Cole Kmet - CHI/7 - $14
PK - Nick Folk - TEN/5 - $3
TD - Los Angeles Rams - LAR/6 - $3

 

[TheWinz]

Regarding Kicker….

I think @TheWinz has posted stats many times showing that 3 $3 Ks outperform higher priced kickers in this best ball format. The trick is rostering $3 kickers who don’t get cut during the season (ignoring bad luck of injuries as well, of course).

So for this year’s contest, here are the $3 kickers:
$3-J Karty LAR/6
$3-J Slye NE/14
$3-N Folk TEN/5
$3-W Reichard MIN/6
$3-G Gano NYG/11
$3-J Bates DET/5
$3-C Little JAX/12

I don’t follow kickers closely but I feel like Gano, Slye and Folk, while “boring” selections, might be the safest names.
I’ve hoesntly never heard of Karty, Reichard or Little, and I heard UFL darling, Bates, might already have competition in camp.


Can anyone shed light on the above kicker situations?

Yes, in this contest, history says rostering multiple cheap kickers who keep their jobs the whole season score a decent amount more than the single expensive ones. And it's not even close. The fun comes in trying to determine whether the bargain bin kickers will keep their jobs or not. For the list above, we can easily break them down into 3 different groups. The first group will be the NFL vets:
Slye - 5 teams and he is only 28. NE had a horrible time last year with rookie Ryland, but he's still on the team battling with Slye. Of the 3 vets, he is the shakiest one IMO. But in his defense, he has kept his job 4 out of 5 seasons.
Folk - He hasn't missed a game in 4 seasons, and these last 4 are his best stretch ever. In 2022 he set the all-time record for consecutive FG's made under 50 yards at 64, and currently, he has the longest streak ever under 40 yards with 78. In these last 4 seasons, he has an overall FG rate of 91.8%, and has made (72.7%) from 50+. He is aging like a fine wine and the gig is his. If TEN opts to keep a 2nd kicker, it will be for kickoffs, and possibly extra long FG's. IMO he is safe.
Gano - Like Folk, he's been around forever. In 4 years for the Giants, he has kicked 87.7%, including a whopping 79.3% from 50+. He was hurt last year and kicking like crap before injury, but should beat out his training camp competition, as long as he can find his mojo. I would've put Gano above Folk in terms of job security, if not for his awful showing before injury last year.

The next group will be drafted rookies. I say drafted because my research says a team that uses a draft pick on a kicker tends to have a longer leash than an undrafted free agent. Over the last 5 years, here are all drafted rookies:
2023 - Moody, Ryland, Carlson - All 3 kept their jobs all season, but none were inside the top 20 in FG percentage. Ryland should've been cut, but I think Belichick just didn't even care enough to make a swap.
2022 - York - As the only drafted kicker, he kept his job all season, even though he sucked. He was tied for the league lead in FG's missed. Teams just aren't willing to give up on someone they drafted, I guess.
2021 - McPherson - Kept his job all season, and set the rookie record with 9 kicks from 50+.
2020 - Rohrwasser, Bass, Sloman - If you haven't heard of Rohrwasser, it's a good read. My short version - he's a Nazi and the Patriots didn't want the bad PR, so they waived him before the contest closed. Bass kept his job all season and scored well, but was K19 in FG accuracy. Sloman was a 7th round pick who blew chunks and was waived after 7 weeks. He kicked one more game after being sent packing to TEN, and hasn't been seen since.
2019 - Gay, Seibert - Both kept their jobs all season. Gay was only 77.1%, but Seibert did well at 86.2%.

So, over the last 5 years, a total of 10 K's have been drafted. Rohrwasser was the only one waived before the contest closed, so we can disregard him. That leaves Sloman as the only drafted rookie to lose his job due to suckage. This year Karty, Little, and Reichard are the drafted rookies. So far, Little and Reichard have already won whatever camp battles there may have been and are the only kickers on their teams. Karty and Tanner Brown are still fighting to be the Rams kicker, but my money is on Karty. Brown is just a camp body who went undrafted last year when the Rams picked him up, then waived him.

The last group is undrafted kickers, and consists of 1 guy. Jake Bates went undrafted in 2023, and he joined the UFL. He is known for a long leg, and kicked in Ford Field last year as a member of the Michigan Panthers. Coincidence that he is now on the Lions? Not much is known about his FG kicking, because it seems he was a kickoff specialist in college. I dug a bit deeper, and it turns out he is a converted soccer player. In High School, he is praised in soccer, but absolutely no mention of football. His first 2 seasons in college were soccer as well (Central Arkansas), again with no mention of football. Then, in 2020 he transferred to Texas State, where he was only used on kickoffs and attempted no FG's or EP's for 2 years. He transferred again in 2022 to Arkansas, where he was only used on kickoffs. I looked, but could find no mention of him ever even attempting a FG in a football game at any level until he joined the UFL last year. It seems his first FG attempt ever was a 64-yarder that he nailed! He went on to hit from 60 and 62 as well. In total, he went 21/28 in 11 games (75%). I can see the hype as far as long kicking is concerned, but just remember, he didn't attempt an in-game kick until he was 24 years old. To me, he is risky.

Of all 7 kickers for $3 this year, the 2 that scare me the most are Slye and Bates. The rest I feel pretty good about.

 

[bamabuddha]

Regarding Kicker….

I think @TheWinz has posted stats many times showing that 3 $3 Ks outperform higher priced kickers in this best ball format. The trick is rostering $3 kickers who don’t get cut during the season (ignoring bad luck of injuries as well, of course).

So for this year’s contest, here are the $3 kickers:
$3-J Karty LAR/6
$3-J Slye NE/14
$3-N Folk TEN/5
$3-W Reichard MIN/6
$3-G Gano NYG/11
$3-J Bates DET/5
$3-C Little JAX/12

I don’t follow kickers closely but I feel like Gano, Slye and Folk, while “boring” selections, might be the safest names.
I’ve hoesntly never heard of Karty, Reichard or Little, and I heard UFL darling, Bates, might already have competition in camp.


Can anyone shed light on the above kicker situations?

Yes, in this contest, history says rostering multiple cheap kickers who keep their jobs the whole season score a decent amount more than the single expensive ones. And it's not even close. The fun comes in trying to determine whether the bargain bin kickers will keep their jobs or not. For the list above, we can easily break them down into 3 different groups. The first group will be the NFL vets:
Slye - 5 teams and he is only 28. NE had a horrible time last year with rookie Ryland, but he's still on the team battling with Slye. Of the 3 vets, he is the shakiest one IMO. But in his defense, he has kept his job 4 out of 5 seasons.
Folk - He hasn't missed a game in 4 seasons, and these last 4 are his best stretch ever. In 2022 he set the all-time record for consecutive FG's made under 50 yards at 64, and currently, he has the longest streak ever under 40 yards with 78. In these last 4 seasons, he has an overall FG rate of 91.8%, and has made (72.7%) from 50+. He is aging like a fine wine and the gig is his. If TEN opts to keep a 2nd kicker, it will be for kickoffs, and possibly extra long FG's. IMO he is safe.
Gano - Like Folk, he's been around forever. In 4 years for the Giants, he has kicked 87.7%, including a whopping 79.3% from 50+. He was hurt last year and kicking like crap before injury, but should beat out his training camp competition, as long as he can find his mojo. I would've put Gano above Folk in terms of job security, if not for his awful showing before injury last year.

The next group will be drafted rookies. I say drafted because my research says a team that uses a draft pick on a kicker tends to have a longer leash than an undrafted free agent. Over the last 5 years, here are all drafted rookies:
2023 - Moody, Ryland, Carlson - All 3 kept their jobs all season, but none were inside the top 20 in FG percentage. Ryland should've been cut, but I think Belichick just didn't even care enough to make a swap.
2022 - York - As the only drafted kicker, he kept his job all season, even though he sucked. He was tied for the league lead in FG's missed. Teams just aren't willing to give up on someone they drafted, I guess.
2021 - McPherson - Kept his job all season, and set the rookie record with 9 kicks from 50+.
2020 - Rohrwasser, Bass, Sloman - If you haven't heard of Rohrwasser, it's a good read. My short version - he's a Nazi and the Patriots didn't want the bad PR, so they waived him before the contest closed. Bass kept his job all season and scored well, but was K19 in FG accuracy. Sloman was a 7th round pick who blew chunks and was waived after 7 weeks. He kicked one more game after being sent packing to TEN, and hasn't been seen since.
2019 - Gay, Seibert - Both kept their jobs all season. Gay was only 77.1%, but Seibert did well at 86.2%.

So, over the last 5 years, a total of 10 K's have been drafted. Rohrwasser was the only one waived before the contest closed, so we can disregard him. That leaves Sloman as the only drafted rookie to lose his job due to suckage. This year Karty, Little, and Reichard are the drafted rookies. So far, Little and Reichard have already won whatever camp battles there may have been and are the only kickers on their teams. Karty and Tanner Brown are still fighting to be the Rams kicker, but my money is on Karty. Brown is just a camp body who went undrafted last year when the Rams picked him up, then waived him.

The last group is undrafted kickers, and consists of 1 guy. Jake Bates went undrafted in 2023, and he joined the UFL. He is known for a long leg, and kicked in Ford Field last year as a member of the Michigan Panthers. Coincidence that he is now on the Lions? Not much is known about his FG kicking, because it seems he was a kickoff specialist in college. I dug a bit deeper, and it turns out he is a converted soccer player. In High School, he is praised in soccer, but absolutely no mention of football. His first 2 seasons in college were soccer as well (Central Arkansas), again with no mention of football. Then, in 2020 he transferred to Texas State, where he was only used on kickoffs and attempted no FG's or EP's for 2 years. He transferred again in 2022 to Arkansas, where he was only used on kickoffs. I looked, but could find no mention of him ever even attempting a FG in a football game at any level until he joined the UFL last year. It seems his first FG attempt ever was a 64-yarder that he nailed! He went on to hit from 60 and 62 as well. In total, he went 21/28 in 11 games (75%). I can see the hype as far as long kicking is concerned, but just remember, he didn't attempt an in-game kick until he was 24 years old. To me, he is risky.

Of all 7 kickers for $3 this year, the 2 that scare me the most are Slye and Bates. The rest I feel pretty good about.

Excellent info

 

[joey]

Regarding Kicker….

I think @TheWinz has posted stats many times showing that 3 $3 Ks outperform higher priced kickers in this best ball format. The trick is rostering $3 kickers who don’t get cut during the season (ignoring bad luck of injuries as well, of course).

So for this year’s contest, here are the $3 kickers:
$3-J Karty LAR/6
$3-J Slye NE/14
$3-N Folk TEN/5
$3-W Reichard MIN/6
$3-G Gano NYG/11
$3-J Bates DET/5
$3-C Little JAX/12

I don’t follow kickers closely but I feel like Gano, Slye and Folk, while “boring” selections, might be the safest names.
I’ve hoesntly never heard of Karty, Reichard or Little, and I heard UFL darling, Bates, might already have competition in camp.


Can anyone shed light on the above kicker situations?

Yes, in this contest, history says rostering multiple cheap kickers who keep their jobs the whole season score a decent amount more than the single expensive ones. And it's not even close. The fun comes in trying to determine whether the bargain bin kickers will keep their jobs or not. For the list above, we can easily break them down into 3 different groups. The first group will be the NFL vets:
Slye - 5 teams and he is only 28. NE had a horrible time last year with rookie Ryland, but he's still on the team battling with Slye. Of the 3 vets, he is the shakiest one IMO. But in his defense, he has kept his job 4 out of 5 seasons.
Folk - He hasn't missed a game in 4 seasons, and these last 4 are his best stretch ever. In 2022 he set the all-time record for consecutive FG's made under 50 yards at 64, and currently, he has the longest streak ever under 40 yards with 78. In these last 4 seasons, he has an overall FG rate of 91.8%, and has made (72.7%) from 50+. He is aging like a fine wine and the gig is his. If TEN opts to keep a 2nd kicker, it will be for kickoffs, and possibly extra long FG's. IMO he is safe.
Gano - Like Folk, he's been around forever. In 4 years for the Giants, he has kicked 87.7%, including a whopping 79.3% from 50+. He was hurt last year and kicking like crap before injury, but should beat out his training camp competition, as long as he can find his mojo. I would've put Gano above Folk in terms of job security, if not for his awful showing before injury last year.

The next group will be drafted rookies. I say drafted because my research says a team that uses a draft pick on a kicker tends to have a longer leash than an undrafted free agent. Over the last 5 years, here are all drafted rookies:
2023 - Moody, Ryland, Carlson - All 3 kept their jobs all season, but none were inside the top 20 in FG percentage. Ryland should've been cut, but I think Belichick just didn't even care enough to make a swap.
2022 - York - As the only drafted kicker, he kept his job all season, even though he sucked. He was tied for the league lead in FG's missed. Teams just aren't willing to give up on someone they drafted, I guess.
2021 - McPherson - Kept his job all season, and set the rookie record with 9 kicks from 50+.
2020 - Rohrwasser, Bass, Sloman - If you haven't heard of Rohrwasser, it's a good read. My short version - he's a Nazi and the Patriots didn't want the bad PR, so they waived him before the contest closed. Bass kept his job all season and scored well, but was K19 in FG accuracy. Sloman was a 7th round pick who blew chunks and was waived after 7 weeks. He kicked one more game after being sent packing to TEN, and hasn't been seen since.
2019 - Gay, Seibert - Both kept their jobs all season. Gay was only 77.1%, but Seibert did well at 86.2%.

So, over the last 5 years, a total of 10 K's have been drafted. Rohrwasser was the only one waived before the contest closed, so we can disregard him. That leaves Sloman as the only drafted rookie to lose his job due to suckage. This year Karty, Little, and Reichard are the drafted rookies. So far, Little and Reichard have already won whatever camp battles there may have been and are the only kickers on their teams. Karty and Tanner Brown are still fighting to be the Rams kicker, but my money is on Karty. Brown is just a camp body who went undrafted last year when the Rams picked him up, then waived him.

The last group is undrafted kickers, and consists of 1 guy. Jake Bates went undrafted in 2023, and he joined the UFL. He is known for a long leg, and kicked in Ford Field last year as a member of the Michigan Panthers. Coincidence that he is now on the Lions? Not much is known about his FG kicking, because it seems he was a kickoff specialist in college. I dug a bit deeper, and it turns out he is a converted soccer player. In High School, he is praised in soccer, but absolutely no mention of football. His first 2 seasons in college were soccer as well (Central Arkansas), again with no mention of football. Then, in 2020 he transferred to Texas State, where he was only used on kickoffs and attempted no FG's or EP's for 2 years. He transferred again in 2022 to Arkansas, where he was only used on kickoffs. I looked, but could find no mention of him ever even attempting a FG in a football game at any level until he joined the UFL last year. It seems his first FG attempt ever was a 64-yarder that he nailed! He went on to hit from 60 and 62 as well. In total, he went 21/28 in 11 games (75%). I can see the hype as far as long kicking is concerned, but just remember, he didn't attempt an in-game kick until he was 24 years old. To me, he is risky.

Of all 7 kickers for $3 this year, the 2 that scare me the most are Slye and Bates. The rest I feel pretty good about.

I just set my kickers to Little, Riechard and Folk. Won’t change it unless injury or other camp news makes me.

Thanks @TheWinz !

 

[TheWinz]

I just set my kickers to Little, Riechard and Folk. Won’t change it unless injury or other camp news makes me.

Thanks @TheWinz !

Don't listen to me. I'm just a fat old has-been. You just jinxed all 3 of your kickers!

 

[joey]

I just set my kickers to Little, Riechard and Folk. Won’t change it unless injury or other camp news makes me.

Thanks @TheWinz !

Don't listen to me. I'm just a fat old has-been. You just jinxed all 3 of your kickers!

I already had Little and Folk set, and swapped out Gano for Riechard after your write up. I didn’t realize Gano had issues last year.

 

[scottybo]

QB - Jared Goff - DET/5 - $18
QB - Baker Mayfield - TB/11 - $14
QB - Justin Fields - PIT/9 - $8
RB - Jonathan Taylor - IND/14 - $28
RB - Kenneth Walker III - SEA/10 - $20
RB - Najee Harris - PIT/9 - $17
RB - Rico Dowdle - DAL/7 - $8
RB - Tyrone Tracy Jr. - NYG/11 - $5
WR - Chris Olave - NO/12 - $28
WR - Chris Godwin - TB/11 - $20
WR - Rashee Rice - KC/6 - $13
WR - Brandin Cooks - DAL/7 - $12
WR - Romeo Doubs - GB/10 - $10
WR - Tyler Boyd - TEN/5 - $8
TE - George Kittle - SF/9 - $15
TE - Hunter Henry - NE/14 - $9
TE - Hayden Hurst - LAC/5 - $5
PK - Nick Folk - TEN/5 - $3
PK - Will Reichard - MIN/6 - $3
TD - Atlanta Falcons - ATL/12 - $3
TD - Green Bay Packers - GB/10 - $3

New favorite.

If Fields doesn't show well closer to the beginning of the season, I'll swap him for another K, another D and add the remaining $2 to either RB or TE.

 

[opensourcebeer]

Lazy Sunday morning listening to records and watching preseason games.

QB - Brock Purdy - SF/9 - $18
QB - Jared Goff - DET/5 - $18
RB - Saquon Barkley - PHI/5 - $29
RB - Kenneth Walker III - SEA/10 - $20
RB - Blake Corum - LAR/6 - $11
RB - Rico Dowdle - DAL/7 - $8
RB - Clyde Edwards-Helaire - KC/6 - $5
RB - Jawhar Jordan - HOU/14 - $3
RB - Dylan Laube - LV/10 - $2
WR - Tyreek Hill - MIA/6 - $37
WR - George Pickens - PIT/9 - $19
WR - Khalil Shakir - BUF/12 - $10
WR - Romeo Doubs - GB/10 - $10
WR - Jameson Williams - DET/5 - $10
WR - Andrei Iosivas - CIN/12 - $5
TE - George Kittle - SF/9 - $15
TE - Daniel Bellinger - NYG/11 - $6
TE - Kylen Granson - IND/14 - $5
PK - Nick Folk - TEN/5 - $3
PK - Will Reichard - MIN/6 - $3
PK - Cam Little - JAX/12 - $3
TD - Detroit Lions - DET/5 - $4
TD - Green Bay Packers - GB/10 - $3
TD - Los Angeles Rams - LAR/6 - $3

 

[TheWinz]

QB - Joe Burrow - CIN/12 - $22
QB - Jordan Love - GB/10 - $21
RB - Kenneth Walker III - SEA/10 - $20
RB - Jaylen Warren - PIT/9 - $19
RB - Austin Ekeler - WAS/14 - $18
RB - James Conner - ARI/11 - $17
WR - Jayden Reed - GB/10 - $16
WR - Calvin Ridley - TEN/5 - $15
WR - Jordan Addison - MIN/6 - $14
WR - Courtland Sutton - DEN/14 - $13
WR - Adam Thielen - CAR/11 - $12
WR - Curtis Samuel - BUF/12 - $11
TE - Pat Freiermuth - PIT/9 - $10
TE - Hunter Henry - NE/14 - $9
TE - Taysom Hill - NO/12 - $8
TE - Tucker Kraft - GB/10 - $7
PK - Tyler Bass - BUF/12 - $6
PK - Jason Sanders - MIA/6 - $5
TD - Jacksonville Jaguars - JAX/12 - $4
TD - Los Angeles Chargers - LAC/5 - $3

Notice anything?

 

[opensourcebeer]

QB - Joe Burrow - CIN/12 - $22
QB - Jordan Love - GB/10 - $21
RB - Kenneth Walker III - SEA/10 - $20
RB - Jaylen Warren - PIT/9 - $19
RB - Austin Ekeler - WAS/14 - $18
RB - James Conner - ARI/11 - $17
WR - Jayden Reed - GB/10 - $16
WR - Calvin Ridley - TEN/5 - $15
WR - Jordan Addison - MIN/6 - $14
WR - Courtland Sutton - DEN/14 - $13
WR - Adam Thielen - CAR/11 - $12
WR - Curtis Samuel - BUF/12 - $11
TE - Pat Freiermuth - PIT/9 - $10
TE - Hunter Henry - NE/14 - $9
TE - Taysom Hill - NO/12 - $8
TE - Tucker Kraft - GB/10 - $7
PK - Tyler Bass - BUF/12 - $6
PK - Jason Sanders - MIA/6 - $5
TD - Jacksonville Jaguars - JAX/12 - $4
TD - Los Angeles Chargers - LAC/5 - $3

Notice anything?

High priced kickers?

 

[scottybo]

QB - Joe Burrow - CIN/12 - $22
QB - Jordan Love - GB/10 - $21
RB - Kenneth Walker III - SEA/10 - $20
RB - Jaylen Warren - PIT/9 - $19
RB - Austin Ekeler - WAS/14 - $18
RB - James Conner - ARI/11 - $17
WR - Jayden Reed - GB/10 - $16
WR - Calvin Ridley - TEN/5 - $15
WR - Jordan Addison - MIN/6 - $14
WR - Courtland Sutton - DEN/14 - $13
WR - Adam Thielen - CAR/11 - $12
WR - Curtis Samuel - BUF/12 - $11
TE - Pat Freiermuth - PIT/9 - $10
TE - Hunter Henry - NE/14 - $9
TE - Taysom Hill - NO/12 - $8
TE - Tucker Kraft - GB/10 - $7
PK - Tyler Bass - BUF/12 - $6
PK - Jason Sanders - MIA/6 - $5
TD - Jacksonville Jaguars - JAX/12 - $4
TD - Los Angeles Chargers - LAC/5 - $3

Notice anything?

Wk 10 hits hard. RB1, WR1, QB2 and TE4. Burrow vs Ravens.

 

[TheWinz]

High priced kickers?

the 20 spots go down from $22 to $3. I thought it looked cool.

 

[scottybo]

High priced kickers?

the 20 spots go down from $22 to $3. I thought it looked cool.

Ohh, haha. Didn't even look that closely.

 

[Instinctive]

Starting to feel decent about this one:

QB - Patrick Mahomes - KC/6 - $27
QB - Bryce Young - CAR/11 - $11
RB - James Conner - ARI/11 - $17
RB - Zamir White - LV/10 - $16
RB - Chase Brown - CIN/12 - $13
RB - Rico Dowdle - DAL/7 - $8
RB - Ray Davis - BUF/12 - $6
WR - Amon-Ra St. Brown - DET/5 - $34
WR - Cooper Kupp - LAR/6 - $28
WR - Xavier Worthy - KC/6 - $13
WR - Joshua Palmer - LAC/5 - $12
WR - Romeo Doubs - GB/10 - $10
WR - Dontayvion Wicks - GB/10 - $8
WR - Jalen Tolbert - DAL/7 - $7
WR - Jauan Jennings - SF/9 - $3
TE - T.J. Hockenson - MIN/6 - $14
TE - Greg Dulcich - DEN/14 - $5
TE - Ja'Tavion Sanders - CAR/11 - $3
PK - Nick Folk - TEN/5 - $3
PK - Graham Gano - NYG/11 - $3
PK - Cam Little - JAX/12 - $3
TD - Atlanta Falcons - ATL/12 - $3
TD - Los Angeles Chargers - LAC/5 - $3

 

[joey]

Starting to feel decent about this one:

QB - Patrick Mahomes - KC/6 - $27
QB - Bryce Young - CAR/11 - $11
RB - James Conner - ARI/11 - $17
RB - Zamir White - LV/10 - $16
RB - Chase Brown - CIN/12 - $13
RB - Rico Dowdle - DAL/7 - $8
RB - Ray Davis - BUF/12 - $6
WR - Amon-Ra St. Brown - DET/5 - $34
WR - Cooper Kupp - LAR/6 - $28
WR - Xavier Worthy - KC/6 - $13
WR - Joshua Palmer - LAC/5 - $12
WR - Romeo Doubs - GB/10 - $10
WR - Dontayvion Wicks - GB/10 - $8
WR - Jalen Tolbert - DAL/7 - $7
WR - Jauan Jennings - SF/9 - $3
TE - T.J. Hockenson - MIN/6 - $14
TE - Greg Dulcich - DEN/14 - $5
TE - Ja'Tavion Sanders - CAR/11 - $3
PK - Nick Folk - TEN/5 - $3
PK - Graham Gano - NYG/11 - $3
PK - Cam Little - JAX/12 - $3
TD - Atlanta Falcons - ATL/12 - $3
TD - Los Angeles Chargers - LAC/5 - $3

Looks good but I’d be afraid of rostering Hockenson when they say the hope he’ll be back during the first half of the season.

 

[Instinctive]

Starting to feel decent about this one:

QB - Patrick Mahomes - KC/6 - $27
QB - Bryce Young - CAR/11 - $11
RB - James Conner - ARI/11 - $17
RB - Zamir White - LV/10 - $16
RB - Chase Brown - CIN/12 - $13
RB - Rico Dowdle - DAL/7 - $8
RB - Ray Davis - BUF/12 - $6
WR - Amon-Ra St. Brown - DET/5 - $34
WR - Cooper Kupp - LAR/6 - $28
WR - Xavier Worthy - KC/6 - $13
WR - Joshua Palmer - LAC/5 - $12
WR - Romeo Doubs - GB/10 - $10
WR - Dontayvion Wicks - GB/10 - $8
WR - Jalen Tolbert - DAL/7 - $7
WR - Jauan Jennings - SF/9 - $3
TE - T.J. Hockenson - MIN/6 - $14
TE - Greg Dulcich - DEN/14 - $5
TE - Ja'Tavion Sanders - CAR/11 - $3
PK - Nick Folk - TEN/5 - $3
PK - Graham Gano - NYG/11 - $3
PK - Cam Little - JAX/12 - $3
TD - Atlanta Falcons - ATL/12 - $3
TD - Los Angeles Chargers - LAC/5 - $3

Looks good but I’d be afraid of rostering Hockenson when they say the hope he’ll be back during the first half of the season.

Yeah I keep debating him vs others in range and am thinking could/would I survive long enough that he is good and unique...not sure!

I also keep trying with fewer RBs but getting Achane on there as a guy who if he blows up he may blow up big.

 

[BassNBrew]

Starting to feel decent about this one:

QB - Patrick Mahomes - KC/6 - $27
QB - Bryce Young - CAR/11 - $11
RB - James Conner - ARI/11 - $17
RB - Zamir White - LV/10 - $16
RB - Chase Brown - CIN/12 - $13
RB - Rico Dowdle - DAL/7 - $8
RB - Ray Davis - BUF/12 - $6
WR - Amon-Ra St. Brown - DET/5 - $34
WR - Cooper Kupp - LAR/6 - $28
WR - Xavier Worthy - KC/6 - $13
WR - Joshua Palmer - LAC/5 - $12
WR - Romeo Doubs - GB/10 - $10
WR - Dontayvion Wicks - GB/10 - $8
WR - Jalen Tolbert - DAL/7 - $7
WR - Jauan Jennings - SF/9 - $3
TE - T.J. Hockenson - MIN/6 - $14
TE - Greg Dulcich - DEN/14 - $5
TE - Ja'Tavion Sanders - CAR/11 - $3
PK - Nick Folk - TEN/5 - $3
PK - Graham Gano - NYG/11 - $3
PK - Cam Little - JAX/12 - $3
TD - Atlanta Falcons - ATL/12 - $3
TD - Los Angeles Chargers - LAC/5 - $3

Dump Young for Wilson and bump Hock to Pitts

OR

Dump young and upgrade Hock to McBride.

Young is $11 in dead weight. You can get most of the those week 6 (Pat's bye) by having a stud TE playing that week.

 

[chocula]

If you were wondering roster size of the 182 teams that made it to the finals

18 - 37 out of 4360 teams = 0.85% survival rate
19 - 19 out of 1450 teams = 1.31% survival rate
20 - 14 out of 1121 teams = 1.25% survival rate
21 - 16 out of 829 teams = 1.93% survival rate
22 - 13 out of 649 teams = 2.00% survival rate
23 - 15 out of 474 teams = 3.16% survival rate
24 - 18 out of 361 teams = 4.99% survival rate
25 - 16 out of 241 teams = 6.64% survival rate
26 - 14 out of 175 teams = 8.00% survival rate
27 - 7 out of 96 teams = 7.29% survival rate
28 - 6 out of 81 teams = 7.41% survival rate
29 - 4 out of 67 teams = 5.97% survival rate
30 - 4 out of 90 teams = 4.44% survival rate

Overall survival rate was 1.83%. Looks like 26 player rosters was the sweet spot last year.

With randomness and luck plus mathematical variability, I’d say 25 to 29 is the sweet spot to target.

I can’t recall but I think I was in the range where I did a top 12-ish RB, WR and TE, 2 bargains at QB, of course bargains at K and D (I mean, that’s been burned into our skull a few thousand times by now) and then a bunch of mid/lower guys to fill out RB, WR and TE. I’d guess I was at a 26 player level. Anyone have a link that can get you back to your 2023 contest roster?

Here you are...

Subscriber Contest Roster

Contest Roster

www.footballguys.com

But this link is better, as you get to see your team each week, even after you were eliminated. Special thanx to @Army Eye for this link...

https://tensionmask.com/fbgcontest/team/107237

What the heck? Where did that link come from? I have been asking for this for the last 10 years. Thank you, thank you, thank you

 

[bamabuddha]

On iteration 25 I think….lol

 

[bamabuddha]

Is @Joe Bryant going to graciously do $100 for anyone that locks down early and makes it to the final 250 again?

I like that side money offer as it encourages me to stop changing my lineup….lol

 

[Maggot Brain]

QB - Kyler Murray - ARI/11 - $20
QB - Jared Goff - DET/5 - $18
RB - Kenneth Walker III - SEA/10 - $20
RB - D'Andre Swift - CHI/7 - $17
RB - Chase Brown - CIN/12 - $13
RB - Rico Dowdle - DAL/7 - $8
RB - Dylan Laube - LV/10 - $2
WR - Cooper Kupp - LAR/6 - $28
WR - Christian Kirk - JAX/12 - $19
WR - Courtland Sutton - DEN/14 - $13
WR - Khalil Shakir - BUF/12 - $10
WR - Romeo Doubs - GB/10 - $10
WR - Jameson Williams - DET/5 - $10
WR - Greg Dortch - ARI/11 - $5
TE - Kyle Pitts - ATL/12 - $17
TE - George Kittle - SF/9 - $15
TE - Hunter Henry - NE/14 - $9
PK - Matt Prater - ARI/11 - $4
PK - Joshua Karty - LAR/6 - $3
PK - Jake Bates - DET/5 - $3
TD - Green Bay Packers - GB/10 - $3
TD - Las Vegas Raiders - LV/10 - $3

Here we go. Missed last year due to health reasons....I'm well rested.

 

[msudaisy26]

QB - Kyler Murray - ARI/11 - $20
QB - Jared Goff - DET/5 - $18
RB - Kenneth Walker III - SEA/10 - $20
RB - D'Andre Swift - CHI/7 - $17
RB - Chase Brown - CIN/12 - $13
RB - Rico Dowdle - DAL/7 - $8
RB - Dylan Laube - LV/10 - $2
WR - Cooper Kupp - LAR/6 - $28
WR - Christian Kirk - JAX/12 - $19
WR - Courtland Sutton - DEN/14 - $13
WR - Khalil Shakir - BUF/12 - $10
WR - Romeo Doubs - GB/10 - $10
WR - Jameson Williams - DET/5 - $10
WR - Greg Dortch - ARI/11 - $5
TE - Kyle Pitts - ATL/12 - $17
TE - George Kittle - SF/9 - $15
TE - Hunter Henry - NE/14 - $9
PK - Matt Prater - ARI/11 - $4
PK - Joshua Karty - LAR/6 - $3
PK - Jake Bates - DET/5 - $3
TD - Green Bay Packers - GB/10 - $3
TD - Las Vegas Raiders - LV/10 - $3

Here we go. Missed last year due to health reasons....I'm well rested.

If you are well rested then you have to take a 10 percent decrease in salary.

Jk glad you back.

 

[scottybo]

QB - Jared Goff - DET/5 - $18
QB - Derek Carr - NO/12 - $11
QB - Sam Darnold - MIN/6 - $9
RB - Jonathan Taylor - IND/14 - $28
RB - Kenneth Walker III - SEA/10 - $20
RB - Najee Harris - PIT/9 - $17
RB - Chase Brown - CIN/12 - $13
RB - Eric Gray - NYG/11 - $2
WR - Chris Olave - NO/12 - $28
WR - Chris Godwin - TB/11 - $20
WR - Rashee Rice - KC/6 - $13
WR - Brandin Cooks - DAL/7 - $12
WR - Romeo Doubs - GB/10 - $10
WR - DJ Chark - LAC/5 - $5
TE - George Kittle - SF/9 - $15
TE - Hunter Henry - NE/14 - $9
TE - Hayden Hurst - LAC/5 - $5
PK - Joshua Karty - LAR/6 - $3
PK - Nick Folk - TEN/5 - $3
PK - Will Reichard - MIN/6 - $3
TD - Atlanta Falcons - ATL/12 - $3
TD - Green Bay Packers - GB/10 - $3

2 injuries today change things. Everyone will have Gray now.

 

[Instinctive]

Little more reactionary now, and trying the idea above of one QB.

QB - Patrick Mahomes - KC/6 - $27
RB - James Conner - ARI/11 - $17
RB - Zamir White - LV/10 - $16
RB - Javonte Williams - DEN/14 - $14
RB - Rico Dowdle - DAL/7 - $8
RB - AJ Dillon - GB/10 - $4
RB - Trey Sermon - IND/14 - $3
RB - Eric Gray - NYG/11 - $2
WR - Amon-Ra St. Brown - DET/5 - $34
WR - Cooper Kupp - LAR/6 - $28
WR - Xavier Worthy - KC/6 - $13
WR - Christian Watson - GB/10 - $13
WR - Joshua Palmer - LAC/5 - $12
WR - Dontayvion Wicks - GB/10 - $8
WR - Greg Dortch - ARI/11 - $5
TE - George Kittle - SF/9 - $15
TE - Greg Dulcich - DEN/14 - $5
TE - Hayden Hurst - LAC/5 - $5
TE - Ja'Tavion Sanders - CAR/11 - $3
PK - Nick Folk - TEN/5 - $3
PK - Graham Gano - NYG/11 - $3
PK - Cam Little - JAX/12 - $3
TD - Atlanta Falcons - ATL/12 - $3
TD - Arizona Cardinals - ARI/11 - $3
TD - Los Angeles Chargers - LAC/5 - $3

Total value: 250

 

[Rubi]

Little more reactionary now, and trying the idea above of one QB.

QB - Patrick Mahomes - KC/6 - $27
RB - James Conner - ARI/11 - $17
RB - Zamir White - LV/10 - $16
RB - Javonte Williams - DEN/14 - $14
RB - Rico Dowdle - DAL/7 - $8
RB - AJ Dillon - GB/10 - $4
RB - Trey Sermon - IND/14 - $3
RB - Eric Gray - NYG/11 - $2
WR - Amon-Ra St. Brown - DET/5 - $34
WR - Cooper Kupp - LAR/6 - $28
WR - Xavier Worthy - KC/6 - $13
WR - Christian Watson - GB/10 - $13
WR - Joshua Palmer - LAC/5 - $12
WR - Dontayvion Wicks - GB/10 - $8
WR - Greg Dortch - ARI/11 - $5
TE - George Kittle - SF/9 - $15
TE - Greg Dulcich - DEN/14 - $5
TE - Hayden Hurst - LAC/5 - $5
TE - Ja'Tavion Sanders - CAR/11 - $3
PK - Nick Folk - TEN/5 - $3
PK - Graham Gano - NYG/11 - $3
PK - Cam Little - JAX/12 - $3
TD - Atlanta Falcons - ATL/12 - $3
TD - Arizona Cardinals - ARI/11 - $3
TD - Los Angeles Chargers - LAC/5 - $3

Total value: 250

So in week six your QB spot will have 0 points

 

[scottybo]

Won't go with this one, but finally came up with a decent 30 player team. No one above $15 allowed.

QB - Kirk Cousins - ATL/12 - $15
QB - Baker Mayfield - TB/11 - $14
QB - Matthew Stafford - LAR/6 - $13
RB - Gus Edwards - LAC/5 - $14
RB - Jonathon Brooks - CAR/11 - $14
RB - Chase Brown - CIN/12 - $13
RB - Rico Dowdle - DAL/7 - $8
RB - J.K. Dobbins - LAC/5 - $8
RB - Bucky Irving - TB/11 - $5
RB - Dylan Laube - LV/10 - $2
RB - Eric Gray - NYG/11 - $2
WR - Calvin Ridley - TEN/5 - $15
WR - Rashee Rice - KC/6 - $13
WR - Brandin Cooks - DAL/7 - $12
WR - Rashid Shaheed - NO/12 - $12
WR - Darnell Mooney - ATL/12 - $11
WR - Romeo Doubs - GB/10 - $10
WR - Elijah Moore - CLE/10 - $7
WR - DJ Chark - LAC/5 - $5
TE - George Kittle - SF/9 - $15
TE - Hunter Henry - NE/14 - $9
TE - Dawson Knox - BUF/12 - $7
TE - Hayden Hurst - LAC/5 - $5
TE - Ja'Tavion Sanders - CAR/11 - $3
PK - Graham Gano - NYG/11 - $3
PK - Nick Folk - TEN/5 - $3
PK - Will Reichard - MIN/6 - $3
TD - Atlanta Falcons - ATL/12 - $3
TD - Green Bay Packers - GB/10 - $3
TD - Carolina Panthers - CAR/11 - $3

 

[Deamon]

QB - Brock Purdy - SF/9 - $18
QB - Jared Goff - DET/5 - $18
QB - Sam Darnold - MIN/6 - $9
RB - De'Von Achane - MIA/6 - $21
RB - Kenneth Walker III - SEA/10 - $20
RB - Gus Edwards - LAC/5 - $14
RB - Chase Brown - CIN/12 - $13
RB - Eric Gray - NYG/11 - $2
WR - Deebo Samuel Sr. - SF/9 - $23
WR - DK Metcalf - SEA/10 - $21
WR - Rashee Rice - KC/6 - $13
WR - Darnell Mooney - ATL/12 - $11
WR - Jameson Williams - DET/5 - $10
TE - Trey McBride - ARI/11 - $24
TE - George Kittle - SF/9 - $15
PK - Joshua Karty - LAR/6 - $3
PK - Jake Bates - DET/5 - $3
PK - Cam Little - JAX/12 - $3
TD - Green Bay Packers - GB/10 - $3
TD - Los Angeles Chargers - LAC/5 - $3
TD - Washington Commanders - WAS/14 - $3

@TheWinz

 

[joey]

That sound we hear is multiple people scrambling to swap out Tracy for Gray and then rearranging parts of the roster to figure out what to with that extra $3.

Me? I re-added Tre Tucker WR LV as a dart throw WR.

 

[Deamon]

That sound we hear is multiple people scrambling to swap out Tracy for Gray and then rearranging parts of the roster to figure out what to with that extra $3.

Me? I re-added Tre Tucker WR LV as a dart throw WR.

nah, it's people trying to get darnold in their line ups, and re-stack up on kittle/deebo

 

[Army Eye]

So in week six your QB spot will have 0 points

Sure. It's a legitimate gambit. For example, my team beat the cut by 46 points last year in week 6. I could have better used the money I spent on a backup QB that barely contributed at all. Of course it's taking on some risk. Whatever the individual feels comfortable with!

 

[Instinctive]

So in week six your QB spot will have 0 points

Sure. It's a legitimate gambit. For example, my team beat the cut by 46 points last year in week 6. I could have better used the money I spent on a backup QB that barely contributed at all. Of course it's taking on some risk. Whatever the individual feels comfortable with!

Yeah it's a risk, but it's a risk early in the contest and I'm trying out the idea that if Mahomes goes down, whatever cheap backup I was really only rostering for 10+ week six points won't save me anyway.

Idk if I'll stay that way, but I've never tried it.

 

[Tha Guru]

First run; feeling good (for 5 minutes)


Your team has been successfully entered .

QB - Jared Goff - DET/5 - $18
QB - Jayden Daniels - WAS/14 - $17
QB - Sam Darnold - MIN/6 - $9
RB - Derrick Henry - BAL/14 - $26
RB - Chase Brown - CIN/12 - $13
RB - MarShawn Lloyd - GB/10 - $8
RB - Jaylen Wright - MIA/6 - $7
RB - Kimani Vidal - LAC/5 - $3
RB - Dylan Laube - LV/10 - $2
RB - Will Shipley - PHI/5 - $2
WR - Christian Kirk - JAX/12 - $19
WR - Rashee Rice - KC/6 - $13
WR - Christian Watson - GB/10 - $13
WR - Courtland Sutton - DEN/14 - $13
WR - Joshua Palmer - LAC/5 - $12
WR - Ricky Pearsall - SF/9 - $7
WR - Javon Baker - NE/14 - $6
WR - Jauan Jennings - SF/9 - $3
TE - Dalton Kincaid - BUF/12 - $22
TE - Jake Ferguson - DAL/7 - $17
TE - Theo Johnson - NYG/11 - $4
PK - Younghoe Koo - ATL/12 - $6
PK - Cameron Dicker - LAC/5 - $4
TD - Green Bay Packers - GB/10 - $3
TD - Carolina Panthers - CAR/11 - $3

Total value: 250

 

[BassNBrew]

QB - Brock Purdy - SF/9 - $18
QB - Jared Goff - DET/5 - $18
QB - Sam Darnold - MIN/6 - $9
RB - De'Von Achane - MIA/6 - $21
RB - Kenneth Walker III - SEA/10 - $20
RB - Gus Edwards - LAC/5 - $14
RB - Chase Brown - CIN/12 - $13
RB - Eric Gray - NYG/11 - $2
WR - Deebo Samuel Sr. - SF/9 - $23
WR - DK Metcalf - SEA/10 - $21
WR - Rashee Rice - KC/6 - $13
WR - Darnell Mooney - ATL/12 - $11
WR - Jameson Williams - DET/5 - $10
TE - Trey McBride - ARI/11 - $24
TE - George Kittle - SF/9 - $15
PK - Joshua Karty - LAR/6 - $3
PK - Jake Bates - DET/5 - $3
PK - Cam Little - JAX/12 - $3
TD - Green Bay Packers - GB/10 - $3
TD - Los Angeles Chargers - LAC/5 - $3
TD - Washington Commanders - WAS/14 - $3

@TheWinz

Dump Darnold. Don't need $9 on the bench.

 

[-OZ-]

So, everyone has Tebow now, right?