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2024 Summer of Soccer - Euro's, Copa America, Olympics, WCQing (5 Viewers)

Chile has still not scored a goal in the Copa. You have to go back to 1917 for the last time Chile did not score a goal in a Copa America. They need a goal to advance.
 
What’s up with players getting subbed out and on their way off the pitch, taking the tape off their wrists and dropping it on the pitch. I’ve seen this a handful of times and it’s annoying me and more everytime I see it.
 
NewlyRetired said:
IrishTwinkie said:
What’s up with players getting subbed out and on their way off the pitch, taking the tape off their wrists and dropping it on the pitch. I’ve seen this a handful of times and it’s annoying me and more everytime I see it.
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Is it just a new way to time waste?
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I do not think so. I’m really not sure what the point is. It bugs me that they are making someone pick up after them. Carry that crap another three steps already.



For the record, I wanted to put a laughing smiley in, but my iPad wasnt having it.
 
Moe. said:
Steal Bielsa from Uruguay. I am LOLing at people who think Uruguay will take their foot off the gas Monday. They are not familiar with his work.
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Counter point, the betting odds for the USA -Uruguay match were much different before we knew the situation. Now USA is clear favorites in the match. If Vegas thinks the rotation is that significant, then I do too.
 
If Canada makes it through and the US doesn't, I don't know how you can keep GGG. Just freaking fire him and move on.

We wanna be like top tier countries? This is what they do.
 
Serious question:

If you knew that GGG gets fired with a loss against Uruguay, and assume a win gets us through to the knockout stage (forget goal differential, etc, just assume win and in).....

Are you hoping for a US win or loss tomorrow?
 
gianmarco said:
Serious question:

If you knew that GGG gets fired with a loss against Uruguay, and assume a win gets us through to the knockout stage (forget goal differential, etc, just assume win and in).....

Are you hoping for a US win or loss tomorrow?
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I hope:

1. US plays well
2. US loses
3. GGG gets sacked.

For me, the eyes should be firmly on 2026 WC - and we have to be better. Its not about how much the players like the coach, its about how much the coach gets from the players.
 
gianmarco said:
Serious question:

If you knew that GGG gets fired with a loss against Uruguay, and assume a win gets us through to the knockout stage (forget goal differential, etc, just assume win and in).....

Are you hoping for a US win or loss tomorrow?
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In all walks of life, I believe the idea of "hoping for a loss" in any situation you normally root for, is a really really bad way to tempt fate and effect karma.

So I want a win and advancement. If one or the other does not happen, then I believe it would be time for a new coach (whether US Soccer does is another story).

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We have been in a similar situation before (and this one was arguably even harder to pull off). We went into the last game of the 2009 Confed cup (US, Brazil, Italy, and Egypt), needing a win and a massive GD flip. The US won the last game 3-0 and Italy lost the last game 3-0, flipping a 6 GD deficit to be level and the US advanced by scoring one more goal.

This was the tournament that the US then went on to end Spain's 35 game unbeaten streak. It would be amazing if we could end Colombia's the same way but it does seem to pie in the skiesh...
 
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NewlyRetired said:
El Floppo said:
NewlyRetired said:
What soccer plays, known world wide, are named after players?

He Baggioed it
The Ronaldihno
A Penenka
Cryuff Turn


There must be others..
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Cuauhtemiña
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oh good one. Being not a Spanish speaker though this one went over my head until a googled it. Once I saw it was "Bunnyhop" I knew it was Blanco.

Is Rambona named after some one?
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But it's also Blanco's first name. Bunnyhop is what he does with it... Don't think it's a translation.
 
As a very casual fan I’ve mostly been watching the 5-10 minute Fox highlights on YouTube of both Euro and Copa. Plenty of exciting games and great plays but to my untrained eye:

- Offsides is such a strange rule in how it is applied. I understand the concept but when everyone is down by the goal? It’s just sort of an excitement killer

- VAR- much like other sports I guess it feels like too much now. An offsides toe? An almost imperceptible handball? Ugh.

- A penalty is a goal like 90% of the time and is such a brutal call for stuff like inadvertent handball or a little bit of contact at the very corner of the box. Feels like they should move the penalty spot back a bit or have a 2nd spot for less egregious offenses?

Sorry for my uneducated ranting, I know the sport has a ton of tradition and everyone in here (including me) enjoys it. Just stuff I noticed….
 
gianmarco said:
Serious question:

If you knew that GGG gets fired with a loss against Uruguay, and assume a win gets us through to the knockout stage (forget goal differential, etc, just assume win and in).....

Are you hoping for a US win or loss tomorrow?
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I’ve never been able to control my brain in that way - to hope my team losses even when it means a better draft pick or easier playoff opponent or a new coach. I desperately want this team to show some steel and ability to match a team like Uruguay and win this game. I think if you supported Berhalter before this tournament I’m not sure what’s changed. Pepi missed a couple sitters against Bolivia and Weah did the stupidest thing imaginable in a huge moment. Berhalter probably could have managed the 10 men game better but we already know he’s not a tactical genius but more of a player coach. My opinion remains the same - I would welcome a new coach if they can get someone special but don’t want to fire Berhalter just for the sake of it. It all depends on who is available. I think the anti-foreigner sentiment we had after Klinsmann has now faded and we’re back into the mode of wanting an Italian, German, South American attitude rather than focusing on a guy who knows the US system and understands CONCACAF. I would even go for Moyes right now if we could get him but I’m not going to be excited for BJ or someone like Jesse or some MLS guy.
 
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3 hour lunch said:
- VAR- much like other sports I guess it feels like too much now. An offsides toe? An almost imperceptible handball? Ugh.
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You're not alone on this, it is definitely something that people argue about (and plenty were upset about the offsides toe in the Germany game, social media is up in quite the fuss over it).

Personally I think anything that can be broken down into a binary yes/no instead of a subjective call should be, so I like it the way it is. To put it in American football terms, if a guy returns a kickoff 100 yards for a touchdown but replay shows he clearly just barely stepped out of bounds on the 50 yard line, that TD still gets called back and no one says "well he just barely stepped out of bounds by a toe, and didn't really gain any advantage from it, so it should just be a touchdown".

Offsides used to be more subjective and, trust me, there was WAY more controversy over offsides calls back when it worked that way than there is now. Every ref and every fan had a different subjective opinion on what constituted a significant enough offsides to call, and you constantly had "well player x was called offsides there but 15 minutes ago player y was not called offside even though he was even further offsides or gained more advantage from it".

I'd rather have an empirical line that always gets the call right even if it's ticky tacky at times, than a subjective call where massive games and rare once every 4 years tournaments are decided on the whim of a single guy who inconsistently and arbitrarily decided to blow the whistle in one scenario and not the other.
 
3 hour lunch said:
As a very casual fan I’ve mostly been watching the 5-10 minute Fox highlights on YouTube of both Euro and Copa. Plenty of exciting games and great plays but to my untrained eye:

- Offsides is such a strange rule in how it is applied. I understand the concept but when everyone is down by the goal? It’s just sort of an excitement killer

- VAR- much like other sports I guess it feels like too much now. An offsides toe? An almost imperceptible handball? Ugh.

- A penalty is a goal like 90% of the time and is such a brutal call for stuff like inadvertent handball or a little bit of contact at the very corner of the box. Feels like they should move the penalty spot back a bit or have a 2nd spot for less egregious offenses?

Sorry for my uneducated ranting, I know the sport has a ton of tradition and everyone in here (including me) enjoys it. Just stuff I noticed….
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All great points!

Offside is one of the most debated rules in the game right now. Some love it, some want it altered. FIFA is going through some tests now in lower leagues with variations on the rule. FIFA is very slow to make any real significant changes to the sport so no one is holding their breath for any real change.

VAR is too much. Almost everyone agrees. The original idea was to fix clear and obvious mistakes but now we are measuring the thickness of a pubic hair. It is also too slow in many occasions, and some leagues like the EPL always seem to get things wrong in the implication and or execution.

Statistically, a PK is converted roughly 75% of the time (historically). The sport is already too low scoring as it is. If we make a PK harder to score it is only to going incentivize defenders to risk more in the box and will ultimately lower scoring which is not what I want to see happen. VAR has already removed too many goals from the sport IMO.
 
Seeing Pickford (who has tiny little T-Rex arms) might have hurt himself during warmups. Gonna play but it’s a finger injury.
 
so what does GGG do tomorrow?

Start Haji on the left and Pulisic on the right?

Go with MMA midfield and move Gio up to the right?

MMA and Haji with Gio on bench?
 
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