2024 Summer of Soccer - Euro's, Copa America, Olympics, WCQing (3 Viewers)

[bagger]

Some of the rankings are just crap.

ETA: the first good rankings I looked up has Uruguay at #6 and the US at #30.

Who ranks that? More curious as I just pull up fifa rankings but clearly not an ideal ranking system.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Who ranks that?

538 used to have the best version IMO, but the ones I just looked up are from World Football ELO. Most other systems will be closer to that one than the official FIFA rankings.

 

[Desert_Power]

Who ranks that?

538 used to have the best version IMO, but the ones I just looked up are from World Football ELO. Most other systems will be closer to that one than the official FIFA rankings.

Has 538 ditched all their sports modeling? Always thought that stuff was much more useful than the politcal stuff.

 

[TLEF316]

INCREDIBLE tackle

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

I'm going to laugh if L/L is how we advance, and extenuating circumstances suddenly matter again.

That would be pretty sweet after listening for four days about how how extenuating circumstances, for example a rabbit punch in the middle of the field resulting in a red card, are irrelevant -- and going out of the group is going out of the group and 100% on the coach.

 

[B Maverick]

I can't get past the feeling the US may play well tonight, grab the 3 points and still not advance.

The odds on this are really low. I'm a lot more worried we get trucked by a very good, in form, team.

Hopefully Darwin has two left feet tonight

He has two left feet every night, but given enough chances he ends up putting one away.

 

[Desert_Power]

That was a tremendously lucky strike (hit it into the ground and bounced off the defender), but man that turn was so fast.

 

[B Maverick]

Are we just ranked much higher than we should be?

Yes. By like 10 spots

 

[Desert_Power]

Pretty pitiful showing from Belgium.

 

[BassNBrew]

Are we just ranked much higher than we should be?

Yes. By like 10 spots

Finished in the top 16 of the last World Cup.

 

[El Floppo]

Are we just ranked much higher than we should be?

Yes. By like 10 spots

Andy keeps talking about a clump of teams 10-35... The US is there. As close to 35 as they are to 10.

 

[TennesseeJed]

As close to 35 as they are to 10.

Are we talking geographically?

 

[NewlyRetired]

Are we just ranked much higher than we should be?

yes. It has always been that way, even after they fixed the formula many years ago.

Note that anything from >10ish to 35ish (maybe even higher) is interchangeable these days.

Many people prefer the ELO rankings, but there is no perfect formula for this stuff.

World Football Elo Ratings

Ratings for national football teams based on the Elo rating system.

www.eloratings.net

 

[TennesseeJed]

Pretty pitiful showing from Belgium.

A tough matchup for the first knock-out round.

But, they have looked like they are at the end of their run for the entire tournament.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Some of the rankings are just crap.

ETA: the first good rankings I looked up have Uruguay at #6 and the US at #30. That's much closer to right.

note that the ELO rankings you are talking about are updated daily, where as FIFA only updates monthly.

As such even in the FIFA rankings the US are going to be much lower than 11 once every thing shakes out of the 2 tournaments. But they won't be close to 30 even saying that. If they lose tonight, they will probably end up 18-22ish

 

[CletiusMaximus]

It seems 2 OGs and a penalty are enough to reach the quarterfinals if you have N'Golo Kante on your team.

 

[TennesseeJed]

Note that anything from >10ish to 35ish (maybe even higher) is interchangeable these days.

I think that is too large a spread to consider them "interchangeable"

Just off the top of my head - Germany 10 - Scotland 35 - and the recent 5-1 score shows that they are not in the same league.


And I would not consider US and Germany to be in a similar bracket.

I do think there are definite tiers to the rankings - just not that broad.

 

[akfaK]

I can't get past the feeling the US may play well tonight, grab the 3 points and still not advance.

The odds on this are really low. I'm a lot more worried we get trucked by a very good, in form, team.

Hopefully Darwin has two left feet tonight

Why should tonight be any different?

 

[Capella]

Belgium’s copper generation

 

[Desert_Power]

Pretty pitiful showing from Belgium.

A tough matchup for the first knock-out round.

But, they have looked like they are at the end of their run for the entire tournament.

Yeah. It's a tough match-up, but neither team really looked good. Belgium had an odd setup and could have done more to try and win within the 90.

 

[The Gator]

I can't get past the feeling the US may play well tonight, grab the 3 points and still not advance.

The odds on this are really low. I'm a lot more worried we get trucked by a very good, in form, team.

Hopefully Darwin has two left feet tonight

Why should tonight be any different?

Don’t make me ask when Italy plays….

 

[NewlyRetired]

Note that anything from >10ish to 35ish (maybe even higher) is interchangeable these days.

I think that is too large a spread to consider them "interchangeable"

Just off the top of my head - Germany 10 - Scotland 35 - and the recent 5-1 score shows that they are not in the same league.


And I would not consider US and Germany to be in a similar bracket.

I do think there are definite tiers to the rankings - just not that broad.

Note that anything from >10ish to 35ish (maybe even higher) is interchangeable these days.

I think that is too large a spread to consider them "interchangeable"

Just off the top of my head - Germany 10 - Scotland 35 - and the recent 5-1 score shows that they are not in the same league.


And I would not consider US and Germany to be in a similar bracket.

I do think there are definite tiers to the rankings - just not that broad.

I agree.

I did say greater than 10 though. The group from 11-15 is only marginally better than the group from 25-30ish.

And my wording was poor. When I said interchangeable, I was more talking about the odds of winning a game would be fairly close.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Is everyone aware that Pepe is 41 or are there still a few people who are unfamiliar with his career?

 

[gianmarco]

I can't get past the feeling the US may play well tonight, grab the 3 points and still not advance.

The odds on this are really low. I'm a lot more worried we get trucked by a very good, in form, team.

Hopefully Darwin has two left feet tonight

Why should tonight be any different?

Don’t make me ask when Italy plays….

That one hurt, GB.

 

[McBokonon]

Is everyone aware that Pepe is 41 or are there still a few people who are unfamiliar with his career?

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@TheAthleticFC

𝙋𝙡𝙖𝙮𝙚𝙧 𝙞𝙣 𝙁𝙤𝙘𝙪𝙨: 𝙋𝙚𝙥𝙚 - Pepe is older than one-third of the nations at Euro 2024.

 

[B Maverick]

Ronaldo just going to keep shooting free kicks until one gets close I see.

 

[Desert_Power]

Is everyone aware that Pepe is 41 or are there still a few people who are unfamiliar with his career?

The Athletic | Football
@TheAthleticFC

𝙋𝙡𝙖𝙮𝙚𝙧 𝙞𝙣 𝙁𝙤𝙘𝙪𝙨: 𝙋𝙚𝙥𝙚 - Pepe is older than one-third of the nations at Euro 2024.

Who knew being a massive **** on the pitch was the key to longevity

 

[Deamon]

GD I love Slovenia and hope they can pull this off.

 

[The Gator]

Ronaldo just going to keep shooting free kicks until one gets close I see.

lol so silly of him. He should just start taking corners and trying to whip it in.

 

[The Gator]

GD I love Slovenia and hope they can pull this off.

Reported

 

[akfaK]

I can't get past the feeling the US may play well tonight, grab the 3 points and still not advance.

The odds on this are really low. I'm a lot more worried we get trucked by a very good, in form, team.

Hopefully Darwin has two left feet tonight

Why should tonight be any different?

Don’t make me ask when Italy plays….

Et tu, Brute?

 

[El Floppo]

Is everyone aware that Pepe is 41 or are there still a few people who are unfamiliar with his career?

The Athletic | Football
@TheAthleticFC

𝙋𝙡𝙖𝙮𝙚𝙧 𝙞𝙣 𝙁𝙤𝙘𝙪𝙨: 𝙋𝙚𝙥𝙚 - Pepe is older than one-third of the nations at Euro 2024.

Who knew being a massive **** on the pitch was the key to longevity

So many words can sub in for ****. I approve.

 

[The Gator]

Roberto Martinez is a tool bag

 

[The Gator]

Vitinha has been there best or second best player.

Sub him off, neat

 

[massraider]

𝙋𝙡𝙖𝙮𝙚𝙧 𝙞𝙣 𝙁𝙤𝙘𝙪𝙨: 𝙋𝙚𝙥𝙚 - Pepe is older than one-third of the nations at Euro 2024.

That's a wonderful stat

 

[Deamon]

the world needs Slovenia to win this

 

[NewlyRetired]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRbh9RrWgAAnrvq?format=jpg&name=medium

 

[gianmarco]

Not to say it excuses what's going on with USMNT, but when you see what's happened with teams like England and Portugal and the quality of their lineups and inability to score against inferior teams, it's just a reminder that it's not a unique thing.

 

[B Maverick]

the world needs Slovenia to win this

Wow I can't believe you want Portugal to lose in PKs and Ronaldo's last kick for the national team to be a miss. Gator will be after you for that.

 

[The Gator]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRbh9RrWgAAnrvq?format=jpg&name=medium

His shot looked like it was aiming for that jersey lol

 

[NewlyRetired]

the left knee did kind of extend ....I think that may be a pk.

What a run though!!

 

[NewlyRetired]

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[The Gator]

helluva save damn it

 

[NewlyRetired]

the world needs Slovenia to win this

Wow I can't believe you want Portugal to lose in PKs and Ronaldo's last kick for the national team to be a miss. Gator will be after you for that.

oh WTF did you do?????????????????????????????????

 

[Deamon]

the world needs Slovenia to win this

Wow I can't believe you want Portugal to lose in PKs and Ronaldo's last kick for the national team to be a miss. Gator will be after you for that.

what just happened is close enough lol

 

[NewlyRetired]

wow, the save was even better on the replay.

 

[titusbramble]

OBLAK GOAT

 

[B Maverick]

I was thinking in PKs after extra time, not now!!!!

 

[BlackCrowes]

Pretty well taken. Amazing save

 

[gianmarco]

GOAT -- Greatest of all Tears