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pantherclub said:
Uh, yeah, no.  You get one of the top players in the draft in chubb.

Say Barkley goes to NY, Indy trades down someone picks say Darnold and then you have your pick of the rest.  The Bills could be enamored with someone else so you could still end up with Barkley. 

I think its dumb to take him #1, then Barkely goes, then Chubb and then you are into the next tier of players.  Micah would be nice but he doesnt completely change a defense as much as pairing chubb with Miles
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I think the point is that you're going to take a QB high in the draft, then you take the one you feel is your future franchise QB.  You don't sit around and "pick one from the rest."

 
pantherclub said:
Uh, yeah, no.  You get one of the top players in the draft in chubb.

Say Barkley goes to NY, Indy trades down someone picks say Darnold and then you have your pick of the rest.  The Bills could be enamored with someone else so you could still end up with Barkley. 

I think its dumb to take him #1, then Barkely goes, then Chubb and then you are into the next tier of players.  Micah would be nice but he doesnt completely change a defense as much as pairing chubb with Miles
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Makes sense in fantasy football but in real football I doubt they like 3 quarterbacks equally. There's probably one that stands out to them and they have to make sure they get him.

 
Darnold/Mayfield + Chubb. 

DO NOT TRADE DOWN

Imagine that pass rush?

Ps: really wanted saquon, but not gonna lie, Hyde a solid pickup. Real solid

 
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Sir Psycho said:
So, do the Browns pick a RB in the first ?
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Maybe if they move up a little from pick 35.  

A lot of good RBs, and their #2 guy could easily still be there at the end of the 1st if not at their picks in the 2nd round.  I would be happy if they grabbed a RB in that area.  

I don't think there was ever a chance they were going to use the #1 pick on a RB whether we signed Hyde or not.  I also think there was a good chance we would go after a RB with one of our high 2nds whether we signed Hyde or not.  

 
pantherclub said:
Uh, yeah, no.  You get one of the top players in the draft in chubb.

Say Barkley goes to NY, Indy trades down someone picks say Darnold and then you have your pick of the rest.  The Bills could be enamored with someone else so you could still end up with Barkley. 

I think its dumb to take him #1, then Barkely goes, then Chubb and then you are into the next tier of players.  Micah would be nice but he doesnt completely change a defense as much as pairing chubb with Miles
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Say we take Chubb at 1, then our #1 and #2 QBs go at picks 2 and 3.  Say we only really like two of the QBs to begin with.  So, we just miss out on our franchise QB cause we tried to get cute and went with a defensive lineman?

Great plan.  Wish you were our GM.

If we take a non QB at 1 and a QB at 4 I will never post in this thread again.................................................................. :no:

 
Soulfly3 said:
If we have Hyde and Duke, zero need for a RB in any of the first 3-4 rnds
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For this year maybe.  No idea if we can retain Duke, and not like Hyde is a world beater.  

This is a great year to snag a RB with one of those 2nds or in the 1st with a small trade up, provided there isn't a mid-late 1st run on RBs.  

Not gonna pass on better talents to grab other positions just because of what we need THIS year.  

 
shadyridr said:
I think this definitely locks in a QB at #1 now for the Browns
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Yep.  I am a huge fan of Barkley but Hyde is a good RB.  The Browns are now set at RB and are taking a QB at 1.  Not sure which QB is worth that 1.1 pick but hopefully, the Browns get it right.   

 
pantherclub said:
Uh, yeah, no.  You get one of the top players in the draft in chubb.

Say Barkley goes to NY, Indy trades down someone picks say Darnold and then you have your pick of the rest.  The Bills could be enamored with someone else so you could still end up with Barkley. 
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or say the Giants do pick a QB (and they very well may) and Indy trades with Buffalo who takes a QB - then you are potentially taking your third ranked QB when you could have had your top guy. QB is a position where you can't get cute. Identify your guy and take him.

 
pantherclub said:
Uh, yeah, no.  You get one of the top players in the draft in chubb.

Say Barkley goes to NY, Indy trades down someone picks say Darnold and then you have your pick of the rest.  The Bills could be enamored with someone else so you could still end up with Barkley. 

I think its dumb to take him #1, then Barkely goes, then Chubb and then you are into the next tier of players.  Micah would be nice but he doesnt completely change a defense as much as pairing chubb with Miles
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This is the same argument as taking Barkley at 1.1 - when the largest need on the team is a QB, you take your top choice of QB at 1.1 - period.  You don't wait on to see who's there a few picks later.  I don't disagree that Chubb and Barkley are top talents, and it's always fun to play the "what if" game.  But when push comes to shove, this FO needs to solve their QB conondrum once and for all by selecting their top choice first.  If not, then they aren't doing their jobs.  

There are arguably 6 choices that can go in the top 4 picks, in no particular order: Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield, Chubb, Barkley, Fitzpatrick.  

CLE takes their choice of QB at 1.1.  NYG most likely takes a QB since they signed JStew.  Ind either takes Chubb, Barkley (both are needs), or they trade out for another QB starving team.  No matter how you slice it, CLE will have a choice of Barkley, Chubb, Fitzpatrick, or a trade down scenario for a QB starved team.  That path is the no brainer.  You take the best player on your board at the biggest need for the franchise at 1.1 and move on.  The biggest need of the franchise is not a DE or a RB.

 
pantherclub said:
If true then pick Chubb at 1 and you at least have your pick of the top qbs -1.   Thats a solid roster and a cheap defense for a few years and certainly something to build on and good for a young qb.
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shadyridr said:
I think this definitely locks in a QB at #1 now for the Browns
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Yep. Assuming they like a guy well enough they get their QB at 1. Then let's say another QB at 2 (Giants or trade), Chubb might go to Indy or they take Barkley. That gives them either Chubb, trade down, Ward or Nelson at 4.

If I'm in charge, it's the QB hue likes best followed by a trade down unless Chubb is there. Or maybe a trade up to get Chubb if reasonable enough.

 
Peak said:
This is the same argument as taking Barkley at 1.1 - when the largest need on the team is a QB, you take your top choice of QB at 1.1 - period.  You don't wait on to see who's there a few picks later.  I don't disagree that Chubb and Barkley are top talents, and it's always fun to play the "what if" game.  But when push comes to shove, this FO needs to solve their QB conondrum once and for all by selecting their top choice first.  If not, then they aren't doing their jobs.
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I think its a slightly different argument as taking Barkley #1 (before they signed Hyde) because he wouldve been a game changer on offense and then they couldve afforded to take whoever was left at QB. Taking a defensive player #1 is different.

 
-OZ- said:
Yep. Assuming they like a guy well enough they get their QB at 1. Then let's say another QB at 2 (Giants or trade), Chubb might go to Indy or they take Barkley. That gives them either Chubb, trade down, Ward or Nelson at 4.

If I'm in charge, it's the QB hue likes best followed by a trade down unless Chubb is there. Or maybe a trade up to get Chubb if reasonable enough.
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I'm REALLY glad Dorsey is in charge...

 
Assuming the Browns are going into this draft with QB at 1 or 4, taking him at 1 is by far the smartest thing to do because it leaves all options available with 4.  If they try to get cute, and their QB target is gone, it will force them down a path that was not the ideal path.  I don't think Dorsey is going to mess around and potentially put himself in react mode 30 minutes into the draft.  

Now, if the target is Allen  :X or Jackson for whatever reason, then I feel they are free to do whatever they want at 1 and maybe even go the route I tossed out last night by getting back into the 1st round.  Especially if it's Jackson...Allen is a wildcard that can go anywhere, even 1.

 
Dorsey knows the QB he is taking. 

I feel like it was his major mission. Wouldn't be shocked if that QB has already been informed. 

Mayfield saying he's the man to "fix the browns" sticks out to me. 

 
Probably more like, there is a leader in the clubhouse.  Nothing will or should be decided until private workouts and the board is locked in the week of the draft.

 
Soulfly3 said:
Former Chiefs’ CB Terrance Mitchell intends to sign a 3-year, $12 million deal with the Cleveland Browns, per source.
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:mellow:  Depth, I guess.  He's the 4th best corner on this roster though - 5th if you include Randall.  No matter what Gregg Williams says.

Although I shouldn't complain.  This approach to free agency isn't what I expected, but had hoped - don't make the big splash, fill some gaps.  But Trumaine Johnson was the one splash I wanted, so that's probably why this is a bit of a letdown.

 
pantherclub said:
slam dunk for you guys but I have a hard time seeing chubb past 3 at the colts considering DE is probably their biggest need and Chubb at 3 is an incredible steal.
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IND has more needs than a lot of teams. A trade down seems likely for them as well. Moreso than us. 

 
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