Do they really not know the difference or do they just really like the narrative so who cares?Twitter said it, they consume it.
That audio is pretty cringeworthy.Of course.
What if you said you trusted them, but not the ones that supported BLM (where a bunch of them were black)?Do they really not know the difference or do they just really like the narrative so who cares?
Saying you trust a bunch of white people is obviously different than saying you trust a bunch of people and then somebody else points out they are white.
I really trust my group of friends from middle school. Small group. Been friends for super long. They happen to be white.
If I said I really trust my white friends thats obviously a problem.
I think it comes down to intelligence. Social media has a feeding frenzy on people that dont think critically about what they read.Do they really not know the difference or do they just really like the narrative so who cares?
Saying you trust a bunch of white people is obviously different than saying you trust a bunch of people and then somebody else points out they are white.
I really trust my group of friends from middle school. Small group. Been friends for super long. They happen to be white.
If I said I really trust my white friends thats obviously a problem.
Except it wasnt "BLM" it was "BLM and Antifa". One of those is predominantly white.What if you said you trusted them, but not the ones that supported BLM (where a bunch of them were black)?
Setting any racial stuff aside, the part where this doofus is saying these people love America and cops so he felt safe is pretty odd.I think it comes down to intelligence. Social media has a feeding frenzy on people that dont think critically about what they read.
It's not odd, it's a whistle.Setting any racial stuff aside, the part where this doofus is saying these people love America and cops so he felt safe is pretty odd.
Perhaps the interview took place in a locker room, we can’t really tell from the audio.Well good to hear that Ron Johnson wasn't scared because it was a bunch of white folks who love their country. But if it was BLM protestors, he would have been truly frightened.
What a piece of ####
https://twitter.com/American_Bridge/status/1370434031532314625?s=20
I can’t believe this is your takeaway from Jan 6th. Forget the violence- they waved the confederate flag in the Capitol, and replaced the American flag with a trump flag. Because they “are patriots.” You ignore the damage and the injuries, but then you harp on about “BLM and antifa.” You’re no better than ron Johnson.I can't believe the left is still milking this January 6th protest. The most heinous incident you can point is the flag pole incident where protestors came to his aid and stopped the attack. Of course people feel safer from people on their side. When you give Democrats the slightest amount of power, they turn into terrible hyper-judgemental people who abuse their status. The reason the left hates Trump so much is that they see their own ugliness in him.
You guys pillaged and burned and murdered and took over cities and destroyed businesses all year long. What happened January 6th pales in comparison. I am sick of the left being on their high horse when they were far far far worse offenders. You whined and whined and whined about Trump and you are still whining about Trump after he is gone. You guys don't even like the flag or the national athem and what it stands for. We had a thread in here and not one person could come up with a reason why this country is great. I don't want to hear your crap.I can’t believe this is your takeaway from Jan 6th. Forget the violence- they waved the confederate flag in the Capitol, and replaced the American flag with a trump flag. Because they “are patriots.” You ignore the damage and the injuries, but then you harp on about “BLM and antifa.” You’re no better than ron Johnson.
Yeah and there were 10,000+ arrests made. What’s your point? They were both bad; no one is condoning violence. Your idea that the 6th was no big deal is ridiculous. Insisting the left call events over the summer “riots” while you call the 6th a protest. Whatever Jon. Your rhetoric speaks for itself. It’s impossible for you to imagine that maybe the previous administration actually was telling lies the whole time. There’s a deep state and everyone was out to get trump and he’s the best.You guys pillaged and burned and murdered and took over cities and destroyed businesses all year long. What happened January 6th pales in comparison. I am sick of the left being on their high horse when they were far far far worse offenders. You whined and whined and whined about Trump and you are still whining about Trump after he is gone.
These unfortunately never get answered out in the open. This is a major national security issue and needs to be addressed.
Yes that happened, but January 6 happened also. That day is what you see on world news in places like Hondorus, Eastern Europe, Central Africa. We were no better than those parts of the world that day. We have to be better. I love the flag, the country and the opportunity it gives us. I don't get why any one from the right thinks a noose or confederate flag is appropriate for a rally, can you? Lets be real for a minute - the left is the left. Trump wouldn't piss on any of these supporters of his if they were on fire. He is about himself, always have been. It's time to move on from him and find a candidate that can beat Biden on 2024.You guys pillaged and burned and murdered and took over cities and destroyed businesses all year long. What happened January 6th pales in comparison. I am sick of the left being on their high horse when they were far far far worse offenders. You whined and whined and whined about Trump and you are still whining about Trump after he is gone. You guys don't even like the flag or the national athem and what it stands for. We had a thread in here and not one person could come up with a reason why this country is great. I don't want to hear your crap.
Trump appointee.Former acting Secretary of Defense Christopher Miller believes former President Donald Trump's speech on the morning of January 6 incited the rioters who stormed the US Capitol.
"The question is would anybody have marched on the Capitol and overrun the Capitol without the President's speech, I think it's pretty much definitive that wouldn't have happened, so yes," Miller told VICE on Showtime. "The question is did he know that he was enraging the crowd to do that, I don't know."
Miller said he believed the Trump's speech earlier in the day did have a "cause and effect" impact on those who listened and later stormed the Capitol when asked if he thinks Trump was responsible for the riot.
That’s not really a defense per se. the lawyer, if I’m interpreting context correctly, appears to be making arguments re bail or a modification of release conditions.massraider said:One of the freedom loving Patriots wants you to know that his talk of hanging traitors and so forth was simply "locker room talk".
Actual defense by his lawyer.
https://twitter.com/MacFarlaneNews/status/1369995813464735745?s=09
Calm down.You guys pillaged and burned and murdered and took over cities and destroyed businesses all year long. What happened January 6th pales in comparison. I am sick of the left being on their high horse when they were far far far worse offenders. You whined and whined and whined about Trump and you are still whining about Trump after he is gone. You guys don't even like the flag or the national athem and what it stands for. We had a thread in here and not one person could come up with a reason why this country is great. I don't want to hear your crap.
That’s so embarrassing. Wow.Well good to hear that Ron Johnson wasn't scared because it was a bunch of white folks who love their country. But if it was BLM protestors, he would have been truly frightened.
What a piece of ####
https://twitter.com/American_Bridge/status/1370434031532314625?s=20
Sure, but it is a characterization of what I am responding too. Some people create a prop of a noose, that does not mean they really intended to hang someone. During Trump's inauguration the leftist protestors burned an effigy of Trump in Washington DC. Does that prove that protestors intended to burn Trump alive? This thread is full racism accusations, charges of the protestors are unpatriotic, that they hate the police, etc. But thanks for the advice.Calm down.
If you can't acknowledge that people on the left side of the political spectrum love this country as much as you do, we can't have a conversation.
Your over the top hyperbole isn't helping anything - you are fanning the flames yourself.
I strongly recommend stepping away for a bit...this isn't healthy.
When there are known white supremacists who try to overturn an election by breaking into the capitol all while beating police officers I am unsure how we can come to any other conclusion.Sure, but it is a characterization of what I am responding too. Some people create a prop of a noose, that does not mean they really intended to hang someone. During Trump's inauguration the leftist protestors burned an effigy of Trump in Washington DC. Does that prove that protestors intended to burn Trump alive? This thread is full racism accusations, charges of the protestors are unpatriotic, that they hate the police, etc. But thanks for the advice.
Yes...it was quite clear that there were a good number of racists in that riot...that there were a good number with zero respect for law enforcement in that crowd.When there are known white supremacists who try to overturn an election by breaking into the capitol all while beating police officers I am unsure how we can come to any other conclusion.
The mental gymnastics you play is mind boggling. There are known anarchist and communists at leftist rallies. Numerous instances of police being struck in the head by objects including bricks and even hit by cars. Over a thousand officers injuried including several deaths. But to you those are peaceful and you would never cast the entire group as being part of that. But when the right protests, you use the worst elements to characterize the entire group, to which I call out your BS.When there are known white supremacists who try to overturn an election by breaking into the capitol all while beating police officers I am unsure how we can come to any other conclusion.
As we all should. When BLM/Antifa was burning down cities, murdering people and looting businesses these same people were praising it.The mental gymnastics you play is mind boggling. There are known anarchist and communists at leftist rallies. Numerous instances of police being struck in the head by objects including bricks and even hit by cars. Over a thousand officers injuried including several deaths. But to you those are peaceful and you would never cast the entire group as being part of that. But when the right protests, you use the worst elements to characterize the entire group, to which I call out your BS.
This thread isn't about the left or antifa or the summer riots. Stay on topic.The mental gymnastics you play is mind boggling. There are known anarchist and communists at leftist rallies. Numerous instances of police being struck in the head by objects including bricks and even hit by cars. Over a thousand officers injuried including several deaths. But to you those are peaceful and you would never cast the entire group as being part of that. But when the right protests, you use the worst elements to characterize the entire group, to which I call out your BS.
Praising is a bit strong. Maybe sympathetic towards or understanding and apologetic would be more accurate.As we all should. When BLM/Antifa was burning down cities, murdering people and looting businesses these same people were praising it.
If they weren't framing it in the same terms as they are framing this, then it doesn't really matter. They aren't being true to their supposed beliefs.Praising is a bit strong. Maybe sympathetic towards or understanding and apologetic would be more accurate.
Desiring fairness and equal justice about a topic is always an important aspect in a topic.This thread isn't about the left or antifa or the summer riots. Stay on topic.
This is completely false and you know it.As we all should. When BLM/Antifa was burning down cities, murdering people and looting businesses these same people were praising it.
Pic of bold facial hairA supervisor for Timothy Hale-Cusanelli told investigators she had to admonish him for sporting a “Hitler“ mustache.
It’s equally false. So was your earlier post: “You guys pillaged and burned and took over cities”Praising is a bit strong. Maybe sympathetic towards or understanding and apologetic would be more accurate.
As you are with your endless crappy threads insinuating you know how the other side thinks.It’s equally false. So was your earlier post: “You guys pillaged and burned and took over cities”
All of these are embarrassing lies. You and @BladeRunnerare both culprits.
I don’t need to insinuate anything. I simply report and discuss.As you are with your endless crappy threads insinuating you know how the other side thinks.
Isn’t there an autonomous zone in Minny right now? I know the answer BTW. Wouldn’t that be considered a takeover?It’s equally false. So was your earlier post: “You guys pillaged and burned and took over cities”
All of these are embarrassing lies. You and @BladeRunnerare both culprits.
“You guys” is the reference I was objecting to.Isn’t there an autonomous zone in Minny right now? I know the answer BTW. Wouldn’t that be considered a takeover?
On a very basic level, these groups provide a sense of purpose and belonging to people who feel marginalized.About the Proud Boys and similar groups - maybe we need to see what the draw is to these groups.
A lot of the people who were at the Capitol building in Lansing were smaller business owners that were shut down. Somehow these groups are drawing these people,On a very basic level, these groups provide a sense of purpose and belonging to people who feel marginalized.
It's not strictly about race, IMO, which is why I think it's somewhat counterproductive to invoke race when discussing these groups. Because it just invites sympathizers, partisans and obsessives to derail the conversation, as we've seen in this thread and others.
Can’t they both be bad and full of stupid people doing stupid things? Why the need to vilify one while defending the other? I’m personally disgusted by what went on from both “sides”.As we all should. When BLM/Antifa was burning down cities, murdering people and looting businesses these same people were praising it.2 hours ago, jon_mx said:
The mental gymnastics you play is mind boggling. There are known anarchist and communists at leftist rallies. Numerous instances of police being struck in the head by objects including bricks and even hit by cars. Over a thousand officers injuried including several deaths. But to you those are peaceful and you would never cast the entire group as being part of that. But when the right protests, you use the worst elements to characterize the entire group, to which I call out your BS.
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The fringe on both sides dictate the media now, it’s what people want.Can’t they both be bad and full of stupid people doing stupid things? Why the need to vilify one while defending the other? I’m personally disgusted by what went on from both “sides”.
Where the F have all the rational centered people gone man?
Yes and no. I disagree with the “dictate” part. It’s pure free market capitalization that’s going on. The media is chasing the headlines that get the clicks. Americans are addicted to drama. Social media and reality TV both prove this and are relevant because of it. And honestly it scares the #### out me for our future.The fringe on both sides dictate the media now, it’s what people want.
Exactly.Yes and no. I disagree with the “dictate” part. It’s pure free market capitalization that’s going on. The media is chasing the headlines that get the clicks. Americans are addicted to drama. Social media and reality TV both prove this and are relevant because of it. And honestly it scares the #### out me for our future.
And that is dictating what is passed off as news. People can watch WGN’s new channel News Nation also.Yes and no. I disagree with the “dictate” part. It’s pure free market capitalization that’s going on. The media is chasing the headlines that get the clicks. Americans are addicted to drama. Social media and reality TV both prove this and are relevant because of it. And honestly it scares the #### out me for our future.
Sure so it’s us doing the dictating not the media. They’re simply responding to our wants.And that is dictating what is passed off as news. People can watch WGN’s new channel News Nation also.
New here? He's been like this for years.Yeah and there were 10,000+ arrests made. What’s your point? They were both bad; no one is condoning violence. Your idea that the 6th was no big deal is ridiculous. Insisting the left call events over the summer “riots” while you call the 6th a protest. Whatever Jon. Your rhetoric speaks for itself. It’s impossible for you to imagine that maybe the previous administration actually was telling lies the whole time. There’s a deep state and everyone was out to get trump and he’s the best.
The Republican president caused this riot at the Capitol. It’s hard for people who backed that guy to come to terms with that, so instead of cutting bait you double down.Can’t they both be bad and full of stupid people doing stupid things? Why the need to vilify one while defending the other? I’m personally disgusted by what went on from both “sides”.
Where the F have all the rational centered people gone man?