Music Draft - Rolling Stone Greatest 500 Songs Garbage List - Now with unhealthy regional pork-stuffs! (2 Viewers)

[Manster]

Tool doesn't make the list but ####### fall out boy made the cut?!  Who's making this thing?   I feel like they obviously have 15 year olds on the panel, and their votes are weighted too heavily.

 

[Ilov80s]

I always associate this song with “Ticket to Ride”, “Paperback Writer”, “I Feel Fine”, and “Day Tripper”- the best of early mid Beatles, and, IMO, arguably the best of the Beatles, period. 
But that being said, I’m not sure that “Help” Is better than any of the songs I just listed. They’re all pretty damn great. 

I agree with all of this, Help pick up as as much about the other songs in its grouping as it was about Help.

 

[El Floppo]

Can we Tanner-decade this up and randomize where we start and end our 25?

 

[krista4]

Rd 1

Song 447 Help by The Beatles

Trying a little strategy of finding weaker groupings. I also think this was the first non Greatest Hits Beatles CD I bought. 

Posted Saturday at 02:50 PM

I just looked at the list for the first time and have selected my first-rounder.  Please don't snipe me.  TIA.

  Who let this guy in?

Seriously, great pick.  That was one of my weakest segments of songs and a top favorite Beatles for me, so I was going to take it.

 

[krista4]

1.04 Lola -- The Kinks (#386, bloc 376-400)

My "strategy" is that I went through each bloc and identified songs that I would have no hesitation about drafting. Then I counted up how many "no hesitation" songs are in each bloc. I will target the blocs with the fewest "no hesitation" songs first. 

Bloc 376-400 was the weakest for me, with just 10 out of 25 songs in the "no hesitation" category. And there aren't many of those 10 that I feel really strongly about, so going with one that I did made sense. 

Lola is one of Ray Davies' best songs and its subject matter, about a guy who unwittingly picks up a transvestite, was revolutionary for 1970. Eephus will approve because it's from one of their non-Arista records. 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LemG0cvc4oU

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/track/0UAJH0k4k3slcE83a9UGCe?si=7b475b1bef4d46f5

Speaking of @Eephus, he is up. 

Essentially my strategy, too.  Last night I put the songs into a Word document, separated them into groups of 25, and then shaded green those I'd love to have and red those I wish to avoid at all costs (there's a middle group of songs I'd be OK with that I didn't shade).  My strategy will be to eyeball the coloring and target the groups where the ratio of red to green, or red to green/no shading, looks highest.  

 

[krista4]

Fixed the spreadsheet. Someone had it filtered by fill colour for some reason

My link.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

My link.

STOP SPOTLIGHTING

 

[krista4]

Suggestion: For those who like to play in spreadsheets ... treat the Google Sheet as the pristine raw data set. Updating records is fine -- but for things like heavy filtering/sorting, color coding, hiding columns/rows, etc. ... copy all the data out into your own spreadsheet somewhere.

ANNOUNCE re spreadsheet:  Feel free to mess around on the new sheets NV put in there, but for regular picks, as long as I'm in front of my computer, I'm happy to put the picks in and update sheet #3 as well, just to alleviate any confusion.  Since I volunteered to do this draft and haven't done much, it's the least I could do.  Let's say that, unless otherwise advised, from ~8 a.m. to 10 p.m. PDT I will do those updates.  At other times if I don't seem to be around, feel free.  Thanks to whoever put this morning's picks in already.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Tool doesn't make the list but ####### fall out boy made the cut?!  Who's making this thing?   I feel like they obviously have 15 year olds on the panel, and their votes are weighted too heavily.

Man, I wish I could find that "Patrick Bateman playing Tool" meme I saw some guy post on Twitter last week. 

 

[Eephus]

491 - Guns N' Roses - Welcome to the Jungle

I don't think the RS list is as bad as some of you do but generally there seems to be more scarcity towards the bottom of the list.

This format does provide better opportunities to #### on your neighbor than most music drafts do, so that'll be my strategy until I tire of it.

 

[Eephus]

@The Dreaded Marco

 

[krista4]

Contrarian time!

My very first chosen email address (and the one I met my wife with) was soulotis@aol.com.  I have the complete Otis box set (and both Stax box sets to boot).  And I'm not a huge fan of Dock of the Bay.  It's certainly a good song, but there are just so many Otis songs I like better, and I think it's status as his most known song is entirely down to it being the single they released posthumously.  Part of it is that production tricks like cutting in seagull cries are like nails on a chalkboard for me.  

None of which has anything to do with whether this is a good pick or not.  Any song you love is a great pick.  

I see I'll have to downgrade my perceived status from FBG #1 Otis fan to #2 Otis fan.  I had no idea!  I agree that this song isn't his best - in fact it wouldn't make my top 20 Otis - but any Otis is good Otis as far as I'm concerned, so I loved the pick.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

491 - Guns N' Roses - Welcome to the Jungle

I don't think the RS list is as bad as some of you do but generally there seems to be more scarcity towards the bottom of the list.

This format does provide better opportunities to #### on your neighbor than most music drafts do, so that'll be my strategy until I tire of it.

I mean, for number 491, this song f***s.

 

[krista4]

The first three picks included two of the three songs on the list with the word "help" in them. 

 

[krista4]

We never heard from prosopis again.  @fatguyinalittlecoat, still willing to fill in?  Don't feel like you have to, but of course we'd love you to join.

 

[Ilov80s]

  Who let this guy in?

Seriously, great pick.  That was one of my weakest segments of songs and a top favorite Beatles for me, so I was going to take it.

I scanned through pretty quickly this AM so I guess I actually did stumble upon a good pick. That was a lot of pressure picking at 2.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

I see I'll have to downgrade my perceived status from FBG #1 Otis fan to #2 Otis fan.  I had no idea!  I agree that this song isn't his best - in fact it wouldn't make my top 20 Otis - but any Otis is good Otis as far as I'm concerned, so I loved the pick.

 I guess I'm #3, then?

Here's the way I look at "Dock":

There are times I'd rather listen to just about any other Redding song because I've heard it so many times. But - and this is complete projection on my part - this record proves that Otis had a shot to fit in well in the 1970s, when almost every other southern soul star outside of Aretha got wiped off of the map by the new sounds. It's singer-songwriter-y & introspective in a way that would make James Taylor or Paul Simon blush.

I dunno - the image of Redding sitting on a houseboat in Sausalito strumming a guitar and singing this song soothes me.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

The first three picks included two of the three songs on the list with the word "help" in them. 

And both from 1965, IMO the best year in pop history.

 

[krista4]

 I guess I'm #3, then?

Here's the way I look at "Dock":

There are times I'd rather listen to just about any other Redding song because I've heard it so many times. But - and this is complete projection on my part - this record proves that Otis had a shot to fit in well in the 1970s, when almost every other southern soul star outside of Aretha got wiped off of the map by the new sounds. It's singer-songwriter-y & introspective in a way that would make James Taylor or Paul Simon blush.

I dunno - the image of Redding sitting on a houseboat in Sausalito strumming a guitar and singing this song soothes me.

We can be #2A and #2B. 

Love your thoughts on the song; I'd like to picture his continuing success in that way.

And both from 1965, IMO the best year in pop history.

Double dork points!

 

[El Floppo]

Can we Tanner-decade this up and randomize where we start and end our 25?

 

[The Dreaded Marco]

1.06  Under Pressure - Queen/David Bowie #429 (Block 426-450).

Like IL80's, this was the weakest block for me and he took one of the other songs I would've been happy drafting from this one.

 

[The Dreaded Marco]

@Doug B

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Thanks to whoever put this morning's picks in already.

That was me, which shouldn't be a surprise. 

 

[Manster]

491 - Guns N' Roses - Welcome to the Jungle

I don't think the RS list is as bad as some of you do but generally there seems to be more scarcity towards the bottom of the list.

This format does provide better opportunities to #### on your neighbor than most music drafts do, so that'll be my strategy until I tire of it.

Well played......I was absolutely considering 

 

[krista4]

Can we Tanner-decade this up and randomize where we start and end our 25?

I didn't reply because I didn't understand the question.  Help?   

 

[krista4]

That was me, which shouldn't be a surprise. 

You'll probably be equally unsurprised that I noticed you had used a different shade of red for sheet #3, so I made them all the same color. 

 

[Pip's Invitation]

You'll probably be equally unsurprised that I noticed you had used a different shade of red for sheet #3, so I made them all the same color. 

I'm colorblind, so it was the best I could do. 

 

[Pip's Invitation]

491 - Guns N' Roses - Welcome to the Jungle

I don't think the RS list is as bad as some of you do but generally there seems to be more scarcity towards the bottom of the list.

This format does provide better opportunities to #### on your neighbor than most music drafts do, so that'll be my strategy until I tire of it.

Like Lola, this was on my list of "songs I really like that are surrounded by a lot of songs that I don't." 

 

[El Floppo]

I didn't reply because I didn't understand the question.  Help?   

If, like Tanner on Jeopardy, I want to count my 25 starting where-ever I like... say at 12-37... I say I should. 

mostly I like making fun of Tanner.

that's the long and the short of it.

 

[krista4]

If, like Tanner on Jeopardy, I want to count my 25 starting where-ever I like... say at 12-37... I say I should. 

mostly I like making fun of Tanner.

that's the long and the short of it.

Aha.

No.

 

[Atomic Punk]

Like Lola, this was on my list of "songs I really like that are surrounded by a lot of songs that I don't." 

Looks like there will be a lot of sniping. Both of these were on my short list.

 

[Doug B]

Like Lola, this was on my list of "songs I really like that are surrounded by a lot of songs that I don't." 

Continuing with this theme -- this one stands WAY out in this grouping for me:

1.07:  389 - "Brass in Pocket", The Pretenders
 

@Ramsay Hunt Experience

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

OK, to beat to death something that poor scorchy, fatguy, and Zilla have heard from me a million times, I'm a firm believer that the best songs appeal straight to the limbic system.  It should make you want to dance, cry, fight/break things, or screw.  This pick hits two out of the list for me.  I also like to pick songs that have some type of connection to my life.  I still have a bum knee from an ill-advised attempt to hit the splits from my good foot.

1.08:  196 -  Get Up (I Feel Like Being a) Sex Machine -- James Brown

@Binky The Doormat

 

[zamboni]

Continuing with this theme -- this one stands WAY out in this grouping for me:

1.07:  389 - "Brass in Pocket", The Pretenders
 

Good song, but can't not think of these cheesy "special" signs from the video whenever I hear it.

 

[The Dreaded Marco]

I just checked out the spreadsheets for the first time.  Great job, @Northern Voice. And thanks.

Sheet 3 is especially helpful.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Continuing with this theme -- this one stands WAY out in this grouping for me:

1.07:  389 - "Brass in Pocket", The Pretenders
 

@Ramsay Hunt Experience

That was one of two I would have taken from that group if Lola were gone. 

 

[Northern Voice]

Essentially my strategy, too.  Last night I put the songs into a Word document, separated them into groups of 25, and then shaded green those I'd love to have and red those I wish to avoid at all costs (there's a middle group of songs I'd be OK with that I didn't shade).  My strategy will be to eyeball the coloring and target the groups where the ratio of red to green, or red to green/no shading, looks highest.  

My strategy is to hope like hell I don't come on the clock until this evening when I can look at the list deeper. 

 

[Pip's Invitation]

There are no Todd Rundgren songs on this list, so it'll be interesting to see what Binky does here. 

 

[zamboni]

Continuing with this theme -- this one stands WAY out in this grouping for me:

1.07:  389 - "Brass in Pocket", The Pretenders

That was one of two I would have taken from that group if Lola were gone. 

Guessing that will be the only song group involving a one-time romantic relationship between lead singers.

 

[rockaction]

Round 1

#38 - (Sittin' On) The Dock of the Bay by Otis Redding

Love this. Is there a sheet where we can look at picks?

/kidding

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Guessing that will be the only song group involving a one-time romantic relationship between lead singers.

I wouldn't call it romantic but 201-225 has Jagger and Bowie, and they were rumored to have done more than just dance in the streets with each other in the '70s. 

 

[Uruk-Hai]

There are no Todd Rundgren songs on this list, so it'll be interesting to see what Binky does here. 

Agreed, but I think he may go Todd-adjacent 

 

[zamboni]

Guessing that will be the only song group involving a one-time romantic relationship between lead singers.

I wouldn't call it romantic but 201-225 has Jagger and Bowie, and they were rumored to have done more than just dance in the streets with each other in the '70s. 

I didn't see the groupings, so I stand corrected. It would be totally acceptable now, but that "Dancing In The Streets" video was a more than a bit uncomfortable back in the day. 

 

[Pip's Invitation]

I didn't see the groups, so I stand corrected. It would be totally acceptable now, but that "Dancing In The Streets" video was a more than a bit uncomfortable back in the day. 

IIRC the video came out a year or two before the reports about their dalliance in the '70s -- then it was like, "oh, now it all makes sense." 

 

[rockaction]

I wouldn't call it romantic

Oh, really? And why not? Present your paper tenderly before the board, please...

 

[zamboni]

There are no Todd Rundgren songs on this list, so it'll be interesting to see what Binky does here. 

Agreed, but I think he may go Todd-adjacent 

Like a bat out of hell.

(it's not on the list)

 

[rockaction]

Seriously, how do we just get a look at the songs in a list on the spreadsheet?

That time I'm not kidding...

 

[Yo Mama]

I might have to pm someone my picks depending on when I’m up. I’ll be on a plane in about an hour (only an hour flight so I won’t be out of pocket too long). 

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Oh, really? And why not? Present your paper tenderly before the board, please...

Because they weren't in a "relationship." But if coked-up casual sex is romantic for you, I won't judge. 

 

[rockaction]

Because they weren't in a "relationship." But if coked-up casual sex is romantic for you, I won't judge. 

Who told?