***Official*** 2011 FBG Subscriber Contest Thread (3 Viewers)

[QuizGuy66]

My team picked the wrong week to put up it's worst score of the year. I'll need Jacobs/Bradshaw (he's out right?) to put up 34 points -.9/7.8 to get to 150. Oof.

Bradshaw is out. Probably helps you a tiny bit as otherwise they'd both put up mediocre numbers that would help less.34 from just Jacobs would count for 33.1 for you. If they both put up 17, though, you'd only get 25.3 points for your troubles.-QG

 

[Bad_Mo]

What happens to the line if everyone gets high scores? Just being nosy.

It depends how realistic we want to be and how high we pick the scores. If I give Brees and Eli 50 points each, and everyone else 20 points (which is not at all realistic), the cut moves up to 159.15. So if you have 160+ at this point, I'd say you're safely on to next week.

Music to my 160.40 ears!

 

[24seven]

C'mon Jimmy G. Argggghhhhhhhhh

 

[Kuz]

I may end up being one of the teams that will get cut while having Beanie.. Need Manningham to somehow pull a big game but that still may not be enough as he looks like he's on quite a few teams.. Made it longer than I thought anyway..

Good luck to all -

 

[JoeSteeler]

looks like i need jacobs to score 20+ or jacobs and manningham to each score 15+ to have a chance

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

Need Manningham to somehow pull a big game but that still may not be enough as he looks like he's on quite a few teams

It depends on how far below the cutline you are, and what Manningham would need to surpass to make it into your starting lineup. If you're way below the current cutline, or if you already have three WRs who scored 20+ points, then there's probably nothing Manningham can do to help you. But in general, he's going to help your team more than he's going to move the cutline. Here's a rough look at what Manningham's production tonight will do to the cutline:

MM Pts	Cutline5	140.4510	141.2015	142.2020	143.1025	144.4030	145.20

That's just counting his contribution in isolation (i.e. assuming no one else on the field scores any points). If Manningham scores 30 but Jimmy Graham also scores 20 points, the cut will be higher than 145.2 obviously.

 

[Kuz]

Need Manningham to somehow pull a big game but that still may not be enough as he looks like he's on quite a few teams

It depends on how far below the cutline you are, and what Manningham would need to surpass to make it into your starting lineup. If you're way below the current cutline, or if you already have three WRs who scored 20+ points, then there's probably nothing Manningham can do to help you. But in general, he's going to help your team more than he's going to move the cutline. Here's a rough look at what Manningham's production tonight will do to the cutline:

MM Pts	Cutline5	140.4510	141.2015	142.2020	143.1025	144.4030	145.20

That's just counting his contribution in isolation (i.e. assuming no one else on the field scores any points). If Manningham scores 30 but Jimmy Graham also scores 20 points, the cut will be higher than 145.2 obviously.

Thanks - I'm sitting at 132 with Dez counting right now at 7 or something. Figure if I get a 20 out of Manningham I may sneak in there at 145.. Should be interesting..

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

Need Manningham to somehow pull a big game but that still may not be enough as he looks like he's on quite a few teams

It depends on how far below the cutline you are, and what Manningham would need to surpass to make it into your starting lineup. If you're way below the current cutline, or if you already have three WRs who scored 20+ points, then there's probably nothing Manningham can do to help you. But in general, he's going to help your team more than he's going to move the cutline. Here's a rough look at what Manningham's production tonight will do to the cutline:

MM Pts	Cutline5	140.4510	141.2015	142.2020	143.1025	144.4030	145.20

That's just counting his contribution in isolation (i.e. assuming no one else on the field scores any points). If Manningham scores 30 but Jimmy Graham also scores 20 points, the cut will be higher than 145.2 obviously.

Thanks - I'm sitting at 132 with Dez counting right now at 7 or something. Figure if I get a 20 out of Manningham I may sneak in there at 145.. Should be interesting..

Yeah, that's doable. I'm not sure how likely it is, but it's not like you're mathematically eliminated or anything. If he manages to put up 20+ points you'll be close, depending on what the other highly-owned guys do (you not only want Manningham to do well, you also want Moore, Thomas, Graham etc. to not put up a lot of points, obviously).

 

[24seven]

Need Manningham to somehow pull a big game but that still may not be enough as he looks like he's on quite a few teams

It depends on how far below the cutline you are, and what Manningham would need to surpass to make it into your starting lineup. If you're way below the current cutline, or if you already have three WRs who scored 20+ points, then there's probably nothing Manningham can do to help you. But in general, he's going to help your team more than he's going to move the cutline. Here's a rough look at what Manningham's production tonight will do to the cutline:

MM Pts	Cutline5	140.4510	141.2015	142.2020	143.1025	144.4030	145.20

That's just counting his contribution in isolation (i.e. assuming no one else on the field scores any points). If Manningham scores 30 but Jimmy Graham also scores 20 points, the cut will be higher than 145.2 obviously.

Can you do the same line movement chart with Jimmy Graham. I'm and 131.8 and just hoping there is a chance. TIA

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

Need Manningham to somehow pull a big game but that still may not be enough as he looks like he's on quite a few teams

It depends on how far below the cutline you are, and what Manningham would need to surpass to make it into your starting lineup. If you're way below the current cutline, or if you already have three WRs who scored 20+ points, then there's probably nothing Manningham can do to help you. But in general, he's going to help your team more than he's going to move the cutline. Here's a rough look at what Manningham's production tonight will do to the cutline:

MM Pts	Cutline5	140.4510	141.2015	142.2020	143.1025	144.4030	145.20

That's just counting his contribution in isolation (i.e. assuming no one else on the field scores any points). If Manningham scores 30 but Jimmy Graham also scores 20 points, the cut will be higher than 145.2 obviously.

Can you do the same line movement chart with Jimmy Graham. I'm and 130.2 and just hoping there is a chance. TIA

JG Pts	Cutline5	140.2510	140.9015	141.9020	143.5025	144.8530	145.85

Same caveats as above, of course. As I said, it all depends on where you are in relation to the cutline, and how many points you have already starting at that position, but in general even if a player is highly owned, they're still going to help you more than they're going to move the cutline up. Every 5 points these guys score only moves the cutline up a point or so. So it just depends when they start counting for your team and if they can put up enough for you to catch up and pass the cutline.Interesting to note, OC has the current cutline at 139.90, while I have it at 140.25. I'm using the same player scores he is, so I'm not sure why we differ, but I'm pretty sure mine is right. Anyway, that means that the first 5 (actually 6) points Jimmy Graham scores won't move the cutline at all.

 

[24seven]

Sitting at 136.3. I only have 4.5 points coming from the flex position as of now so fingers crossed. Here's to JG having a good night.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Interesting to note, OC has the current cutline at 139.90, while I have it at 140.25. I'm using the same player scores he is, so I'm not sure why we differ, but I'm pretty sure mine is right. Anyway, that means that the first 5 (actually 6) points Jimmy Graham scores won't move the cutline at all.

Seems like too large a difference for the handful of staff entries to matter. I will say that I've noticed that sometimes sportsline and espn differ from the nfl in their stat reporting on game day so maybe it's something like that?-QG

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

Interesting to note, OC has the current cutline at 139.90, while I have it at 140.25. I'm using the same player scores he is, so I'm not sure why we differ, but I'm pretty sure mine is right. Anyway, that means that the first 5 (actually 6) points Jimmy Graham scores won't move the cutline at all.

Seems like too large a difference for the handful of staff entries to matter. I will say that I've noticed that sometimes sportsline and espn differ from the nfl in their stat reporting on game day so maybe it's something like that?-QG

It's definitely not the staff entries. I'm excluding them, and if anything, if OC was including them it would make his cutline higher than mine, not lower.And it's not stat reporting, since I'm using the individual player scores directly from his site. So we're using all the same scores, but we're coming up with different cutlines. I'm pretty confident mine is right, because I'm using the same process that I use weekly to update my DB, and I always match it to the official results Drinen posts and have always matched exactly. I don't know if he's totalling up all the roster scores correctly but somehow getting the wrong cutline, or if he's miscalculating some of the roster scores. Maybe he has some logic built in to exclude players whose score is zero, and this is inadvertently causing him to count someone like Tashard Choice who scored negative points yesterday. I don't know. Just figured I'd mention it so (a) OC can try to fix it, and (b) if someone looks at OC's results at 1:00am tonight and thinks they just barely made the cut, they might wake up in the morning to find they actually missed the official cut.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

Interesting to note, OC has the current cutline at 139.90, while I have it at 140.25. I'm using the same player scores he is, so I'm not sure why we differ, but I'm pretty sure mine is right. Anyway, that means that the first 5 (actually 6) points Jimmy Graham scores won't move the cutline at all.

Seems like too large a difference for the handful of staff entries to matter. I will say that I've noticed that sometimes sportsline and espn differ from the nfl in their stat reporting on game day so maybe it's something like that?-QG

It's definitely not the staff entries. I'm excluding them, and if anything, if OC was including them it would make his cutline higher than mine, not lower.And it's not stat reporting, since I'm using the individual player scores directly from his site. So we're using all the same scores, but we're coming up with different cutlines.

I'm pretty confident mine is right, because I'm using the same process that I use weekly to update my DB, and I always match it to the official results Drinen posts and have always matched exactly.

I don't know if he's totalling up all the roster scores correctly but somehow getting the wrong cutline, or if he's miscalculating some of the roster scores. Maybe he has some logic built in to exclude players whose score is zero, and this is inadvertently causing him to count someone like Tashard Choice who scored negative points yesterday. (ETA: Don't think it's that, since I believe we didn't match last week either, and there weren't any negative points last week.) I don't know. Just figured I'd mention it so (a) OC can try to fix it, and (b) if someone looks at OC's results at 1:00am tonight and thinks they just barely made the cut, they might wake up in the morning to find they actually missed the official cut.

 

[kardplayer]

I have it set up now where I can enter in any scores I want for the Saints and Giants players tonight and it will recalculate the cutoff on the fly. So far I've only used it for selfish purposes, and I think my entry is safe. I put in zeros for Lance Moore, Pierre Thomas, and Mario Manningham, and very high scores for every other player going tonight, and the cut line only moved up to about 152. So I think no matter what happens I'll be ok.

Looking forward to seeing the periodic updates tonight during the game

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

Brown trousers time for my squad. 142 w/ Thomas and Moore.

 

[Organized Chaos]

Interesting to note, OC has the current cutline at 139.90, while I have it at 140.25. I'm using the same player scores he is, so I'm not sure why we differ, but I'm pretty sure mine is right. Anyway, that means that the first 5 (actually 6) points Jimmy Graham scores won't move the cutline at all.

Seems like too large a difference for the handful of staff entries to matter. I will say that I've noticed that sometimes sportsline and espn differ from the nfl in their stat reporting on game day so maybe it's something like that?-QG

It's definitely not the staff entries. I'm excluding them, and if anything, if OC was including them it would make his cutline higher than mine, not lower.And it's not stat reporting, since I'm using the individual player scores directly from his site. So we're using all the same scores, but we're coming up with different cutlines.

I'm pretty confident mine is right, because I'm using the same process that I use weekly to update my DB, and I always match it to the official results Drinen posts and have always matched exactly.

I don't know if he's totalling up all the roster scores correctly but somehow getting the wrong cutline, or if he's miscalculating some of the roster scores. Maybe he has some logic built in to exclude players whose score is zero, and this is inadvertently causing him to count someone like Tashard Choice who scored negative points yesterday. (ETA: Don't think it's that, since I believe we didn't match last week either, and there weren't any negative points last week.) I don't know. Just figured I'd mention it so (a) OC can try to fix it, and (b) if someone looks at OC's results at 1:00am tonight and thinks they just barely made the cut, they might wake up in the morning to find they actually missed the official cut.

Hmm, I'll PM you about this so we can figure it out.

 

[domvin]

Man, not looking good for me. About 130 right now, but my wrs(Jordy, Vjax, Dez did nothing)

I have Moore, Manningham, and Jimmy Graham still left, so hopefully I pull my flex points from

Jimmy, and Moore and Manningham can get a solid 12+. I just know I am at the mendoza line here

 

[BassNBrew]

Just checked my score thinking I was toast and was surprised at the low cut line. Sitting at 149.75 and have Graham/Moore/Manningham (-10)on my roster so I should have the a piece of the action if the cut moves much.

My three kickers scored 12, 13, and 13...my three D's 3, 4, and 6. Not exactly great best ball scores.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

Just read that Manningham is inactive for tonight. Obviously bad news for anyone counting on him to produce; good news for those who don't have him and don't want the cut line to move too much.

 

[Bankerguy]

140.35 going into tonight.

Have Jacobs and Thomas (-2.9 and 0.9)at RB. I also have Henderson and Manningham at (-12.5).

Am I crazy to think I could survive?

 

[Saint]

and done at 159.25... OC, gotta run that cutline as I am curious as heck to see if I even have a chance!!!

Man, hoping you're right on the cut line moving not more than 19 or so Iggy... Would be great to last a little bit longer.

 

[Bad_Mo]

No offense, but I wouldn't mind seeing a bunch of Graham owners miss the cut this week.

 

[Das Boot]

Both offenses in their first possessions went down field like knives through hot butter.

 

[Saint]

Both offenses in their first possessions went down field like knives through hot butter.

Thinking the same thing.... Highly owned guys: Graham - 9.5 pts, Moore - 14.4 pts... ugh.Edited to update scoring.

 

[kardplayer]

OC was kind enough to download his database to me so I could do some live scoring throughout the evening (not just out of the goodness of my heart as I came in at #504 going into tonight)...

I was able to foot my database to Iggy's cutoff, so I feel pretty good about it.

The scoring process is very manual for me, so I'll update a few times during the game.

After the Giant FG, the new cutoff was 143.5. This is of course unofficial but I feel pretty good about it.

 

[Organized Chaos]

OC was kind enough to download his database to me so I could do some live scoring throughout the evening (not just out of the goodness of my heart as I came in at #504 going into tonight)...I was able to foot my database to Iggy's cutoff, so I feel pretty good about it.The scoring process is very manual for me, so I'll update a few times during the game.After the Giant FG, the new cutoff was 143.5. This is of course unofficial but I feel pretty good about it.

Cool, glad you are able to use the data to get more timely cutoff numbers I'm thinking that the difference between Iggy's numbers and mine was that he pulled the numbers after I ran the projected cutoff. I get the stats live, then run the cutoff, then later pull them again and this later pull usually is more in line with what FBG ends up with.

 

[kevzilla]

The 56 of us who have Graham and Moore are fairly satisfied with how things have gone so far. I might get some sleep tonight.

 

[kardplayer]

Since there's just over 2 minutes to go after the Graham TD, I'll rerun the next set at halftime.

 

[BassNBrew]

The 56 of us who have Graham and Moore are fairly satisfied with how things have gone so far. I might get some sleep tonight.

Yup!

 

[ctriopelle]

Ugh....I died in week 3 by under a point (and saw a penalty play reversal that would have cleared me easily), and other than that have sailed through the cut lines. Team has actually gotten much stronger as I was very injury burdened early. Leave it to a stinkin' ref to cut me out of my 25k!

 

[frae]

2 Lance Moore TD's may have saved me from the Turk. I am now into the low 150's, thanks a lot Lance!

 

[Balco]

Jimmy Graham has lifted me to 154.6. Still don't think that will be enough.

 

[Bankerguy]

Jimmy Graham has lifted me to 154.6. Still don't think that will be enough.

You will be fine

 

[LittlePhatty]

I keep forgetting that I unchecked Lance Moore at the last minute.

 

[rustycolts]

Moore has got me to 142.2.I need him to keep going or maybe get a little somthing from Thomas.

 

[Genester]

Someone please post an update cut line for crying out loud. I am trying to figure out if another 5 TDs from Lance Moore could keep me alive this week.

 

[kardplayer]

Halftime cutoff is 147.55

 

[Sol D]

I love you Lance!

 

[Saint]

550 some yards offense by halftime.... I'm starting to sweat at my 159.25 score....

 

[kardplayer]

I have the live scoring humming now... Cutoff after Jacobs TD = 147.7

 

[Genester]

I have the live scoring humming now... Cutoff after Jacobs TD = 147.7

Thank you. Please make the number decrease. TIA.

 

[H8fulHuck]

179 and climbing thanks to Lance. Any points he scores going forward can count for me next week please and thank you.

 

[Organized Chaos]

I have the live scoring humming now... Cutoff after Jacobs TD = 147.7

You weren't kidding! Nice, this will be really helpful for this thread.

 

[kardplayer]

After Brees rushing TD, cutoff now 148.

 

[Bankerguy]

After Brees rushing TD, cutoff now 148.

153.75!!!! Come on boys.

 

[rustycolts]

Need a little more out of Moore and Thomas come on boys.

 

[Bankerguy]

rut roh

 

[kardplayer]

Jimmy!!!

Cutoff now at 150.95.

 

[rustycolts]

rut roh

Yep think I'm done gettin away from me now.