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So Kap should have the right to protest, but officers should be forced to VOLUNTEER and not have the right to do the same? Interesting take on rights you have there.
The police volunteer their time? I was unaware of that.

Not being snarky, if none of those cops are getting paid, whatever they wanna do is up to them.

 
The police volunteer their time? I was unaware of that.

Not being snarky, if none of those cops are getting paid, whatever they wanna do is up to them.
It's in the article. They volunteer and are paid as security guards, not police. But apparently their volunteerism should be forced on them because they are just cops and don't have the same right as downtrodden NFL QBs.

 
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Moonlighting?

Meh. I like that cops can make good money. Means we can have better ones.
I did several mortgages for Santa Clara Countty and other Bay Area LEO's when I was living in the US.  I would always shake my head as they were all making six figures easily.  They would always explain that it was the OT, and all of them would say "It's a scam", almost like it was a running joke among them.

 
It's in the article. They volunteer and are paid as security guards, not police. But apparently their volunteerism should be forced on them because they are just cops and don't have the same right as downtrodden NFL QBs.
Hey as long as you aren't being melodramatic.

The cops are grandstanding, frankly they look silly to me.

They should issue a statement: Kaepernick's 'protest' might not sit will with us, however we will do our job.

Take the high road. His protest is harmless, their reaction gives it merit. They are doubling down on his stupid. 

But yes, I support their right to protest in whatever stupid manner they see fit.

 
I did several mortgages for Santa Clara Countty and other Bay Area LEO's when I was living in the US.  I would always shake my head as they were all making six figures easily.  They would always explain that it was the OT, and all of them would say "It's a scam", almost like it was a running joke among them.
Yeah they are getting over, but I'm okay with this 'scam'.  They aren't stealing anything.

 
proninja said:
These poor cops, getting paid 60 bucks an hour to watch football while one player doesn't like the fact that black people are getting shot in the street. 
Hottest of hot takes! 

 
I would love to see the 49ers respond to the police union guy by issuing a press release which stated, "The San Francisco 49ers supports the concept of free speech and chooses not to judge an entire organization based solely on the comments of one of its members."

 
It always amazes me that police unions get a pass from the "unions suck" crowd.
Seems all we talk about here in CA is how much teachers unions suck, but cops scam the #### out of the system, get paid way more than teachers and get way better retirement/benefits.

 
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These poor cops, getting paid 60 bucks an hour to watch football while one player doesn't like the fact that black people are getting shot in the street. 
So you are saying they should be forced to work on their days off? 

 
Seems all we talk about here in CA is how much teachers unions suck, but cops scam the #### out of the system, get paid way more than teachers and get way better retirement/benefits.
The guy who is "spokesperson" for our local fire department brought home $283,000 last year with overtime.  He's a captain and I'm sure does more than just talk to the media but JFC.

ETA:. For $280k in this area you can buy a 4 bedroom, 2200sqft house in a great neighborhood.

 
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The guy who is "spokesperson" for our local fire department brought home $283,000 last year with overtime.  He's a captain and I'm sure does more than just talk to the media but JFC.
And don't you DARE criticize it publicly or you'll be branded as an anti-American traitor.

 
I guess I dont get the joke? Some irrelevant football player decides not to stand during the national anthem, say some dumb things, and wear some dumb socks. This makes some people upset and they decide they don't want to work their second job at the same location that this guy works at. 

This isn't police officers in their standard line of duty refusing to do their standard line of duty. I would immediately support their termination since they would effectively be quitting. My state treats it that way. 

I don't care one way or the other though if they decide they don't want the extra income and pass on a second gig. I personally wouldn't take less money for my family because I was upset about what one guy said, but I certainly don't care if somebody else doesnt want the money.

 
The guy who is "spokesperson" for our local fire department brought home $283,000 last year with overtime.  He's a captain and I'm sure does more than just talk to the media but JFC.

ETA:. For $280k in this area you can buy a 4 bedroom, 2200sqft house in a great neighborhood.
Bet he gets summers off too.

 
And don't you DARE criticize it publicly or you'll be branded as an anti-American traitor.
No kidding.  Hey, I'm all for paying our cops and firefighters a better than decent wage but get real.  This guy is making almost 4 times than a teacher with the same time on the job.

And before anyone mentions "summers and holiday breaks off" I don't know many teachers that stop working once their contracted time is up...with no overtime.   

 
The guy who is "spokesperson" for our local fire department brought home $283,000 last year with overtime.  He's a captain and I'm sure does more than just talk to the media but JFC.

ETA:. For $280k in this area you can buy a 4 bedroom, 2200sqft house in a great neighborhood.
Thats a pretty sweet gig. Does he have a PR background or was he just a firefighter that came up through the ranks? 

 
The guy who is "spokesperson" for our local fire department brought home $283,000 last year with overtime.  He's a captain and I'm sure does more than just talk to the media but JFC.

ETA:. For $280k in this area you can buy a 4 bedroom, 2200sqft house in a great neighborhood.
What's this now?

 
What's this now?
The guy who is "spokesperson" for our local fire department brought home $283,000 last year with overtime.  He's a captain and I'm sure does more than just talk to the media but JFC.

ETA:. For $280k in this area you can buy a 4 bedroom, 2200sqft house in a great neighborhood.

 
But yes, I support their right to protest in whatever stupid manner they see fit.
That was actually my only point. People crawling all over themselves to support Kap, then want to bag all over the cops for doing the exact same thing. It is simply mind-boggling to me.

 
Maybe if more athletes grew their fro's out, there will be less concussions.  Kapernick growing his fro out also brought back so many good memories I had growing up.  The Jackson 5 cartoon was my favorite and for some reason, the first time I saw Kap's fro, my mind went back to my childhood, thanks Kap.

 
I don't give a #### about his :fro: or his socks. 

Those tats, though:  Attention whore. :thumbdown:

 
yeterday my buddies came over and before i let them have a beer we lined up and did a 21 gun salute and sang the battle hymn of the republic it was pretty great take that to the bank bromigos 

 
proninja said:
I think it's fair to hold cops to a higher standard than the rest of us. They get to carry guns and enforce our laws, I find that extremely fair. Also, I think the appearance that the cops are only willing to work for certain people who act a certain way isn't a good look. We need our LE to enforce laws as emotionless as possible, and if anything their response does far more to legitimize Kap's protest than it does to harm it. 
We aren't talking about standards or what they do while on duty. We're talking about volunteering to work on their off hours. How you feel about how their response looks is totally irrelevant as to whether it is their RIGHT to do it. Once again, Kap has the right to sit. And these guys have the right to not volunteer for the games. How you can support one but not the other just totally boggles my mind. If indeed you do fully support Kap's stance that is.

 
yeterday my buddies came over and before i let them have a beer we lined up and did a 21 gun salute and sang the battle hymn of the republic it was pretty great take that to the bank bromigos 
Admit it, you were all just shooting at the black guy encroaching on your property line weren't you?

 
yeterday my buddies came over and before i let them have a beer we lined up and did a 21 gun salute and sang the battle hymn of the republic it was pretty great take that to the bank bromigos 
Admit it, you were all just shooting at the black guy encroaching on your property line weren't you?
uh no thats just wrong bromigo that is not how swc rolls take that to the bank 

 
We aren't talking about standards or what they do while on duty. We're talking about volunteering to work on their off hours. How you feel about how their response looks is totally irrelevant as to whether it is their RIGHT to do it. Once again, Kap has the right to sit. And these guys have the right to not volunteer for the games. How you can support one but not the other just totally boggles my mind. If indeed you do fully support Kap's stance that is.
:lmao: I think you mean take on a second paying gig.

 
proninja said:
I think it's fair to hold cops to a higher standard than the rest of us. They get to carry guns and enforce our laws, I find that extremely fair. Also, I think the appearance that the cops are only willing to work for certain people who act a certain way isn't a good look. We need our LE to enforce laws as emotionless as possible, and if anything their response does far more to legitimize Kap's protest than it does to harm it. 
Good to see your support for involuntary servitude.  :thumbup:

 
In other words, volunteering.
The word volunteer tends to suggest doing something absent compensation, financial or otherwise, out of the kindness of your heart. But correct, they are under no professional obligation to take a second job, although encouraging all the cops to pull out on a week's notice might be pretty lame. And independent of that, their position is lame. And I am sure a bunch of those cops like that gig and are actually annoyed that now there is peer pressure to show how super patriotic they are rather than getting paid to enjoy the action and hot chicks and good times of NFL opening day.

 
The word volunteer tends to suggest doing something absent compensation, financial or otherwise, out of the kindness of your heart. But correct, they are under no professional obligation to take a second job, although encouraging all the cops to pull out on a week's notice might be pretty lame. And independent of that, their position is lame. And I am sure a bunch of those cops like that gig and are actually annoyed that now there is peer pressure to show how super patriotic they are rather than getting paid to enjoy the action and hot chicks and good times of NFL opening day.
No, it does not. It's merely one definition. We have an all-volunteer military. Does that "tend to suggest" they do it absent compensation?

 
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