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*** TNF on Prime Video - Broncos at Saints *** (+3, 37) 8:15 Kickoff (2 Viewers)

I realize they’ve got a boatload of injuries but sure seems like the Saints need to fire Allen, bench Carr even after he’s healthy to avoid the injury guarantee and then cut him before his base salary for 2025 goes fully guaranteed. Cut Kamara, trade Lattimore, etc. for other high priced players for cap savings and accumulate picks. Just eat all that void cap $, see what you’ve got in Rattler/Haener for a season or two and get that cap back into shape while drafting some young talent.
I don’t think they can eat a ton of void cap space. They’re already 90M over the 2025 cap lmao. Obviously they can trade guys to reduce that but even moving Kamara saves only 8M on the cap. They still owe him 10 or 11 on dead cap either way. Trading Carr would be 40M dead cap. They are as screwed as any franchise has ever been.
 
Sean Payton Revenge Game.
What exactly makes this a Payton revenge game? Payton wasn't fired or forced out. He left salary cap hell. If anything, this is a Saints revenge game.
Former coach/player returns to face his former team for the first time. It's a revenge game,no matter how that coach/player left.
Ask any coach/player who's been through it.
I have two that live in my subdivision.
That's how they describe it.
No. You should look up the definition of the word revenge. Payton has zero reason to have any bad feelings towards the Saints organization. There is no revenge to be had. He left on his own terms. Just admit you're wrong. That's a much better look.


Revenge


  1. the action of inflicting hurt or harm on someone for an injury or wrong suffered at their hands.
    "other spurned wives have taken public revenge on their husbands"

    Similar:
    vengeance


    retribution


    retaliation


    reprisal


    requital

    recrimination


    *** for tat


    measure for measure

    getting even


    redress


    satisfaction


    repayment


    payback


    lex talionis


    ultion











    • verb
      LITERARY

  1. inflict hurt or harm on someone for an injury or wrong done to (someone else).
    "it's a pity he chose that way to revenge his sister"
Dude,chill out.
I just passed on what two former NFL players mentioned in a conversation.
 
I realize they’ve got a boatload of injuries but sure seems like the Saints need to fire Allen, bench Carr even after he’s healthy to avoid the injury guarantee and then cut him before his base salary for 2025 goes fully guaranteed. Cut Kamara, trade Lattimore, etc. for other high priced players for cap savings and accumulate picks. Just eat all that void cap $, see what you’ve got in Rattler/Haener for a season or two and get that cap back into shape while drafting some young talent.
I don’t think they can eat a ton of void cap space. They’re already 90M over the 2025 cap lmao. Obviously they can trade guys to reduce that but even moving Kamara saves only 8M on the cap. They still owe him 10 or 11 on dead cap either way. Trading Carr would be 40M dead cap. They are as screwed as any franchise has ever been.
Given their injuries I think they will try to run it back one more time but it's not worth it and it's not really that hard to get them out of cap hell if they bite the bullet. Carr is $50MM dead, but can be designated a June 1st to split it. They save $19MM cutting Kamara, another $10MM cutting or trading Lattimore. RT Ryan Ramcyzk can be restructured/traded/cut among another 5 or 6 other guys whose base salaries are pretty high. Their projected $97MM over next year, they are going to have to dump a bunch of guys no matter what.
 
Sean Payton Revenge Game.
What exactly makes this a Payton revenge game? Payton wasn't fired or forced out. He left salary cap hell. If anything, this is a Saints revenge game.
Former coach/player returns to face his former team for the first time. It's a revenge game,no matter how that coach/player left.
Ask any coach/player who's been through it.
I have two that live in my subdivision.
That's how they describe it.
No. You should look up the definition of the word revenge. Payton has zero reason to have any bad feelings towards the Saints organization. There is no revenge to be had. He left on his own terms. Just admit you're wrong. That's a much better look.


Revenge


  1. the action of inflicting hurt or harm on someone for an injury or wrong suffered at their hands.
    "other spurned wives have taken public revenge on their husbands"

    Similar:
    vengeance


    retribution


    retaliation


    reprisal


    requital

    recrimination


    *** for tat


    measure for measure

    getting even


    redress


    satisfaction


    repayment


    payback


    lex talionis


    ultion











    • verb
      LITERARY

  1. inflict hurt or harm on someone for an injury or wrong done to (someone else).
    "it's a pity he chose that way to revenge his sister"
Dude,chill out.
I just passed on what two former NFL players mentioned in a conversation.
Looked like a revenge game to me
:lol:
 
I realize they’ve got a boatload of injuries but sure seems like the Saints need to fire Allen, bench Carr even after he’s healthy to avoid the injury guarantee and then cut him before his base salary for 2025 goes fully guaranteed. Cut Kamara, trade Lattimore, etc. for other high priced players for cap savings and accumulate picks. Just eat all that void cap $, see what you’ve got in Rattler/Haener for a season or two and get that cap back into shape while drafting some young talent.
I don’t think they can eat a ton of void cap space. They’re already 90M over the 2025 cap lmao. Obviously they can trade guys to reduce that but even moving Kamara saves only 8M on the cap. They still owe him 10 or 11 on dead cap either way. Trading Carr would be 40M dead cap. They are as screwed as any franchise has ever been.
Given their injuries I think they will try to run it back one more time but it's not worth it and it's not really that hard to get them out of cap hell if they bite the bullet. Carr is $50MM dead, but can be designated a June 1st to split it. They save $19MM cutting Kamara, another $10MM cutting or trading Lattimore. RT Ryan Ramcyzk can be restructured/traded/cut among another 5 or 6 other guys whose base salaries are pretty high. Their projected $97MM over next year, they are going to have to dump a bunch of guys no matter what.

I’m sorry but they are in hell.
 
We are officially in WWE territory now.
Say what now? Not sure what you are referencing but would like to know
I just think it's getting more clear every week that the NFL games are greatly influenced.
I can't speak for MoP but my confusion is from the fact you responded to a thread from last week's TNF game without context last night. Not sure if you meant to do that or if you meant to reply in the Texans/Jets TNF thread. Also which plays specifically motivated your responses? Genuinely curious.
 
We are officially in WWE territory now.
Say what now? Not sure what you are referencing but would like to know
I just think it's getting more clear every week that the NFL games are greatly influenced.
I can't speak for MoP but my confusion is from the fact you responded to a thread from last week's TNF game without context last night. Not sure if you meant to do that or if you meant to reply in the Texans/Jets TNF thread. Also which plays specifically motivated your responses? Genuinely curious.
Oh hell.

I responded to the wrong thread. :lmao:
 
We are officially in WWE territory now.
Say what now? Not sure what you are referencing but would like to know
I just think it's getting more clear every week that the NFL games are greatly influenced.
I hate to acknowledge this but one thing I know about you is you don't hit the "sensational" button like MoP often will do to put a spotlight on something that troubles me
That's why when folks like you start chiming in on this, someone who as a Chiefs fan has thoroughly enjoyed the last 6-7 years of this Dynasty Run but you freely point this out
Incredible and definitely stops me in my tracks

I try to turn a blind eye, try tp put the blame on the team whining about the call against them, there's an entire 60 minutes and we always have to focus on the last 4-5 of the 4th Q
I appreciate you speaking out on this

And I do not in any way think it's a Chiefs/Mahomes thing, I still do not get angry watching the end of Chiefs vs Anybody, sorry but I think the Chiefs are really good and do it the right way
Do the Chiefs seems to get some good luck...Good luck is where hard work and opportunity meet, I feel the Chiefs are well coached, well prepared and loaded with been there done that
The Chiefs are one of the greatest dynasties I have ever seen in my lifetime which includes the 80s Niners, 90s Cowboys, 2000s Patriots, all these teams have their strengths
Hard to say one is superior to the other, I would rather that just tip my hat and acknowledge how great they are
I always argue Montana and Brady had amazing Head Coaches and surrounding talent but of course they were good
Mahomes has been winning with very little around him the last 2 seasons, reminds me of when Brady had iffy WRs or more blue collar types

All good :thumbup:
 
We are officially in WWE territory now.
Say what now? Not sure what you are referencing but would like to know
I just think it's getting more clear every week that the NFL games are greatly influenced.
I can't speak for MoP but my confusion is from the fact you responded to a thread from last week's TNF game without context last night. Not sure if you meant to do that or if you meant to reply in the Texans/Jets TNF thread. Also which plays specifically motivated your responses? Genuinely curious.
Oh hell.

I responded to the wrong thread. :lmao:
:lmao: :thumbup: :lmao:
 
We are officially in WWE territory now.
Say what now? Not sure what you are referencing but would like to know
I just think it's getting more clear every week that the NFL games are greatly influenced.
I hate to acknowledge this but one thing I know about you is you don't hit the "sensational" button like MoP often will do to put a spotlight on something that troubles me
That's why when folks like you start chiming in on this, someone who as a Chiefs fan has thoroughly enjoyed the last 6-7 years of this Dynasty Run but you freely point this out
Incredible and definitely stops me in my tracks

I try to turn a blind eye, try tp put the blame on the team whining about the call against them, there's an entire 60 minutes and we always have to focus on the last 4-5 of the 4th Q
I appreciate you speaking out on this

And I do not in any way think it's a Chiefs/Mahomes thing, I still do not get angry watching the end of Chiefs vs Anybody, sorry but I think the Chiefs are really good and do it the right way
Do the Chiefs seems to get some good luck...Good luck is where hard work and opportunity meet, I feel the Chiefs are well coached, well prepared and loaded with been there done that
The Chiefs are one of the greatest dynasties I have ever seen in my lifetime which includes the 80s Niners, 90s Cowboys, 2000s Patriots, all these teams have their strengths
Hard to say one is superior to the other, I would rather that just tip my hat and acknowledge how great they are
I always argue Montana and Brady had amazing Head Coaches and surrounding talent but of course they were good
Mahomes has been winning with very little around him the last 2 seasons, reminds me of when Brady had iffy WRs or more blue collar types

All good :thumbup:

The way I see it is there are too many random penalties at seemingly perfectly opportune times to turn a game. And the Chiefs certainly receive their fair share of those. I'm talking about all these late "illegal contact" or "defensive holding" calls that always show up on 3rd and long or 4th down to extend drives and keep games close.

The Chiefs get these all the time. But the Chiefs have also been kicked in the nards plenty of times in the past.

I'm just so tired of the NFL being ruled by flags. When the time has come where you have to wait to cheer for a play until you make sure there isn't a flag? That's when you know the NFL has completely jumped the shark on their product.

It's getting worse and worse, and now with gambling firmly entrenched in all sports, it's not going to get better.

Americans have already proven they will follow WWE storylines and scripts as if they are real. The NFL anymore is just a weekly show with plotlines and narratives.

The Chiefs are a benefit to this. And if I'm being honest with myself, I am starting to wonder how tainted all of this is. I enjoy the wins but they all don't make me feel good.
 

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