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Who will own pick 1.1? Chi. And then what? (1 Viewer)
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Deranged Hermit
Not cool & Pissed
A lot depends on if Harrison comes out. I think he will, but stranger things have happened.
Max Power
Footballguy
I can't imagine he stays, but like you said...
MHjr to Arizona makes too much sense to think they'd go in any other direction. #2 pick might be a WR
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
ARI's OL is bad. Paris Johnson Jr. isn't a lock (so far) at LT. It wouldn't be out of the picture that they go OT (again) with their first rounder and pick up a WR in a very deep class with there second 1st rounder or 2nd rounder. They also have a number of holes elsewhere that need filled. Trading down from the #2 for additional draft capital would probably be smart.
(HULK)
(Smash)
Washington will be picking 3 so pretty sure they can get a QB there without trading up.
Deranged Hermit
Not cool & Pissed
Of course they can. You could do that any year. It just depends on preference.
Most reports I've seen have Williams and Maye as the clear top two qbs. They might think Daniels is in that tier too. Heck, I don't know if Washington is even looking at qb, I just used them as an example.
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
Howell has shown some flashes, but has also crapped the bed a good bit. Is that EB's offense? Will EB even be in WAS in 2024? Howell doesn't have a ton of draft capital on his side, so I'd expect WAS will look hard at a QB unless they get an absolute haul to trade down.
MAC_32
Footballguy
I don't think it does. Pick the QB to build around and move Fields. Where things get interesting is what they do beyond that...once they've figured out what to do in leadership anyway. No way the McCaskey family fumbles that either...
Deranged Hermit
Not cool & Pissed
I agree, but I'm also willing to hear offers if I'm Chicago. If I'm offered a deal like Carolina offered last year (for sake of argument say Max Crosby is offered by Vegas as the player to go along with the picks). I take that in a second even with Crosby getting a new contract.
The first pick can plug one hole or multiple holes depending on how it's played
MAC_32
Footballguy
That's still an auto reject for me. This team can compete in 2024, but they aren't in a position to make a run at a title. If they get the QB right then they have a 5-6+ year window that opens starting in 2025 though. Can't say the same if they ride it out with Fields. He and Maxx (in your hypothetical) are gonna eat into most of their available cap, so their ability to build around them will be limited to the draft and ring chasers within a year or two.
By building around a rook they have their ability to build around him is essentially limitless and useful vets will want to come play with him. Gotta get the coaching hire right though.
It's a no brainer really.
Read an article two weeks ago from Charles Robinson where he polled 7 GM's on what they'd do and all 7 said it was an easy call to trade Fields and draft a QB.
Also all 7 of them pegged Fields trade value and it basically ranged between a 2 and a 3. You don't pass elite QB prospects at 1.1 to retain a QB valued like Fields as your starter.
I don't even have any suspense regarding if the Bears will trade Fields or pick a QB with their first pick. It's just a matter of where they trade and for what and if they prefer Caleb or Maye.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
It’s very obvious if you’re being objective.
If they can trade the top pick AND stay in the top 3 though? That’s a coup.
My thought is they won't entertain this unless they got a Godfather offer or really liked Jayden Daniels on par with the other two.
What I don't think Chicago will do is assume that Marvin will go second or that Arizona won't trade out. My guess is in fact that will happen, that Arizona will move back.
fatness
Footballguy
I'm not seeing this rumor among Washington beat reporters. Where did you hear/read it? Thanks.
Max Power
Footballguy
Rumor: Commanders 'Very Interested' in Bears Trade for No. 1 Pick to Draft Williams
If the Chicago Bears trade the No. 1 pick in the NFL Draft, the Washington Commanders may be on the other end in order to select USC quarterback Caleb Williams.
fatness
Footballguy
Thanks.Rumor: Commanders 'Very Interested' in Bears Trade for No. 1 Pick to Draft Williams
If the Chicago Bears trade the No. 1 pick in the NFL Draft, the Washington Commanders may be on the other end in order to select USC quarterback Caleb Williams.www.si.com
As I read that, it's just speculation by Brener and Graziano.
Max Power
Footballguy
For sure, but it makes sense on the surface. Washington has an extra second this year and to move from 1 to 4 shouldn't break the bank.Thanks.Rumor: Commanders 'Very Interested' in Bears Trade for No. 1 Pick to Draft Williams
If the Chicago Bears trade the No. 1 pick in the NFL Draft, the Washington Commanders may be on the other end in order to select USC quarterback Caleb Williams.
As I read that, it's just speculation by Brener and Graziano.
Also sets up Washington perfectly to turn the page from the last owner/team image.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Though it could evoke RG3 if their pick doesn’t work out.For sure, but it makes sense on the surface. Washington has an extra second this year and to move from 1 to 4 shouldn't break the bank.Thanks.Rumor: Commanders 'Very Interested' in Bears Trade for No. 1 Pick to Draft Williams
If the Chicago Bears trade the No. 1 pick in the NFL Draft, the Washington Commanders may be on the other end in order to select USC quarterback Caleb Williams.
As I read that, it's just speculation by Brener and Graziano.
Also sets up Washington perfectly to turn the page from the last owner/team image.
Easy to make a case that it makes sense but it's hard for me to put any stock in a rumor about it when they don't likely don't have the existing front office or coaching staff in place yet. Like whoever would make that trade is probably not in the building yet.For sure, but it makes sense on the surface. Washington has an extra second this year and to move from 1 to 4 shouldn't break the bank.Thanks.Rumor: Commanders 'Very Interested' in Bears Trade for No. 1 Pick to Draft Williams
If the Chicago Bears trade the No. 1 pick in the NFL Draft, the Washington Commanders may be on the other end in order to select USC quarterback Caleb Williams.
As I read that, it's just speculation by Brener and Graziano.
Also sets up Washington perfectly to turn the page from the last owner/team image.
I'm going to keep on saying that I think it's far more likely if a team trades up for a QB they are going to move up to 2 and my guess right now is that ends up happening, that Chicago will stick and pick and Arizona will move back.
Max Power
Footballguy
Bears might still take a QB at #1, but its not a slam dunk. I think it boils down to how they grade out Williams and maye vs Fields and trade offers.Easy to make a case that it makes sense but it's hard for me to put any stock in a rumor about it when they don't likely don't have the existing front office or coaching staff in place yet. Like whoever would make that trade is probably not in the building yet.For sure, but it makes sense on the surface. Washington has an extra second this year and to move from 1 to 4 shouldn't break the bank.Thanks.Rumor: Commanders 'Very Interested' in Bears Trade for No. 1 Pick to Draft Williams
If the Chicago Bears trade the No. 1 pick in the NFL Draft, the Washington Commanders may be on the other end in order to select USC quarterback Caleb Williams.
As I read that, it's just speculation by Brener and Graziano.
Also sets up Washington perfectly to turn the page from the last owner/team image.
I'm going to keep on saying that I think it's far more likely if a team trades up for a QB they are going to move up to 2 and my guess right now is that ends up happening, that Chicago will stick and pick and Arizona will move back.
But it's rumor season now. People talk and teams explore options.
I can't imagine Washington Managment who still needs a face of the Franchise can sell Sam Howell or the third best QB in this class to some of the better up and coming coaching candidates.
tickle
Footballguy
Bears are the new Lions. Sad to say as a longtime fan but I like Fields and hope he gets a chance in a good system. Bears haven't had a top offensive coordinator since . . . . probably never. Bears first pick this year? Hopefully better than Cedric Benson at 4 who fumbled away their last superbowl chance or Trubisky at 2 who they traded up for in a delusional panic. If the rest of the league can't figure out how to draft qb's - look at the "vaunted" class which Fields was a part of - than how is the worst qb drafting franchise in history going to do it?
Down Under
Footballguy
I guess I’m in the minority who thinks Washington should stick with Howell and trade down and use the stockpile to build the rest of the team. Teams give up on QBs way too easily and remember, 1st round QBs are 50/50 at best. i think Howell has shown enough to get at least one more year. If they decide to move on from him, they’ll likely be drafting high enough get another QB, or they can draft one or two later round QBs - either way they’ll have a much better team surrounding their new QB than they have now.
There is no way anyone can claim Caleb alone will put Washington in playoff contention with this current team. So he’ll struggle for two years, everyone will be screaming that he sucks and they need to move on, rinse and repeat.
There is no way anyone can claim Caleb alone will put Washington in playoff contention with this current team. So he’ll struggle for two years, everyone will be screaming that he sucks and they need to move on, rinse and repeat.
fatness
Footballguy
After the next 2 games there is no Washington Management. Nobody knows who'll be brought in to the front office and coaching staff. Trying to guess what the unknown people brought it will want to do is kind of futile at this point. That team needs a hell of a lot more before they can worry about how to sell the team. The owner's in place. But no one else is.
ffmail4me
Footballguy
Amen. I so want them to trade back, and load up on OL, get some real LBs, a legit TE, and CB depth. In a perfect world, trade back and get Bowers or a top 3 OL, and then stock pile. And take a QB in round 2 if someone falls. I doubt Jacoby is on the team next year.
if they thought Howell was any good they wouldn't have benched him
ffmail4me
Footballguy
That was probably dumb a$$ Ron's call, and then Harris stepped in and said play Howell you idiot. That's my best guess.
Down Under
Footballguy
Everyone (except maybe Rivera) knew their week 15-18 schedule was brutal and that Howell would likely struggle. Keep him in and let him learn. They accomplish nothing by starting Brissett - I’m sure he is not in their long term plans. But Rivera is probably only thinking short term (his job).
Deranged Hermit
Not cool & Pissed
God bless Jacksonville. The first pick now goes through Chicago.
(HULK)
(Smash)
Picking 2nd now.
Deranged Hermit
Not cool & Pissed
Wonder how much it would take to swap picks with Chicago?
(HULK)
(Smash)
I don't know why they'd do that.
There are legitimately 3 QBs that could be the #1 pick, and they'll get to pick from at least 2 of them. Maybe all 3 if Chicago sticks with Fields and takes Harrison Jr at #1.
Washington has way too many holes to give anything away IMO. That's why I'd hope they'd trade down for a haul.
Deranged Hermit
Not cool & Pissed
Well, if they want Williams, they'll have to trade up. If they're happy with the consolation prize with Maye or Daniels they can do that.
Everything I've read is the new owners are looking for a face for the team. The number one qb could be the face they are looking for.
(HULK)
(Smash)
Whoever our GM is for the draft isn't hired yet. Whatever "want Williams" narrative might exist, it's a rumor built upon nothing.
Williams didn't have a great year, I'm not sure he's the first QB to get picked this year. Odds on favorite, sure, but that's not etched in stone remotely.
Updated 2024 NFL Draft Order
Round 1
1. Chicago Bears (from CAR 2-14)2. Washington Commanders (4-12)
3. New England Patriots (4-12)
4. Arizona Cardinals (4-12)
5. New York Giants (5-11)
6. Tennessee Titans (5-11)
7. Los Angeles Chargers (5-10)
8. New York Jets (6-10)
9. Atlanta Falcons (7-9)
10. Chicago Bears (7-9)
11. Las Vegas Raiders (7-9)
12. Green Bay Packers (7-8)
13. Denver Broncos (7-8)
14. Minnesota Vikings (7-8)
15. New Orleans Saints (8-8)
16. Pittsburgh Steelers (8-7)
Nothing sad about it. You want the best for your team in the long run.
It’s #3 from what I have seen on multiple sites. They are behind Washington.
Kevrunner
Footballguy
Looks like the site I was following is wrong, it has Wash #2 now like you posted.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Do the Bears continue with Fields?
Where does Fields land and make the Bears sorry for trading him? I'm honestly curious the answer to this because I don't really know
Those questions and answers will be the determining factors in a lot of what people debate and discuss.
-Bears have a chance to flip the pick and have 2 1st Round picks for yers to come if they want to just play the Law of Large Numbers which might sound old school but remember the owner in charge of the Chicago Bears currently, she's like 103 years old which is a complete handicap to the fan base and the actual players suiting up each week, there ought to be danger pay factored into their weekly checks.
Where does Fields land and make the Bears sorry for trading him? I'm honestly curious the answer to this because I don't really know
Those questions and answers will be the determining factors in a lot of what people debate and discuss.
-Bears have a chance to flip the pick and have 2 1st Round picks for yers to come if they want to just play the Law of Large Numbers which might sound old school but remember the owner in charge of the Chicago Bears currently, she's like 103 years old which is a complete handicap to the fan base and the actual players suiting up each week, there ought to be danger pay factored into their weekly checks.
Boston
Footballguy
Assuming the Pats lose to the Jets (I actually think they win) and Washington loses to the Cowboys will the Pats pass them in the SOS tie-breaker?
