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If Washington traded TWO firsts for Justin Fields that would be it, I'd be a Ravens fan moving forward. And I just got finished putting up with 30 years of Dan Snyder.
There's a difference between being a QB away and believing you're a QB away. A GM just had to convince his owner that they are.
A QB away from what?
We haven't even hired the next GM yet. And if he's interviewing promising that the Manders are a QB away, he's a dummy setting himself up for immediate failure.
From making a run.
6 Qbs go in round one then yeah, they can maybe swing that from a QB needy team before round 2. Maybe even if 5 go. Otherwise, I think it's a 3rd. It really will depend on how quickly the top QBs go. Honestly, 3 are locks and probably going in the first 10 picks, another 3 could easily go in the next 22 picks.
He's in the average+ tier of QBs and while not great, I think his OC holds him back.
I don't hate Fields nor do I think his coaches are good nor do I know if they should move on from him, but his QBR which takes a good bit of that out of the formula has him ranked 23rd. Behind Howell and just ahead of Ridder and Pickett. And that's where I see his abilities. Whether CHI keeps him I don't care one bit. But when it comes to trade value, CHI fans pitching getting back two #1s for him is ludicrous. That's the only point I'm making. 2nd rounders, maybe. 2nd and a 3rd maybe. But #1s? I don't see it.
I agree with that. I think at best JF can fetch a late first from a playoff team looking for an upgrade who gets a bit desperate. Otherwise a 2nd rd pick plus another 2nd or 3rd is probably the right value.
I would take him as the starter on Pittsburgh
Ultimately, this is where I think he goes.
I agree that multiple teams would view him as a trade up from their present situation. But the question is, at what price. Would you want Pittsburg to ship their 1st rounder to Chicago for him? I would guess no, but worth asking still IMO
You pay 25 mill for a backup QB, you are getting fired.
I think it comes down to want vs need. Sure every franchise wants a top tier QB, but until they get one or are in position to get one, a quality starter is a need. When a team has a solid core of players they have to go get the best available QB. They can't always wait around for the franchise guy to come along. Right now, JF is going to be the best QB available to teams not drafting early. Assuming Cousins re-signs with Minny.
If I’m Chicago, I would deal with Atlanta before Pitt.
How many of those QBs were the #1 overall pick though?
I see 1 championship total and it wasn't even on the team who drafted him.
You’re not wrong. But, don’t you honestly wish they’d have drafted C.J. Stroud last year instead of trading the pick?
Its hard to say. Without the trade, the Bears don't have DJ Moore, a starting RT (Wright) or starting CB (Stevenson). I love what Stroud has done, but the pessimistic Bears fan in me also thinks we wouldn't be seeing the same Stroud with the Bears.
Well the Panthers sure got it wrong when they tried.
Who’s saying they’re sure to be better? The risk with a rookie contract is worth taking.
Why? I think Atlanta is almost perfect for fields. But they’ll probably just take the best offer (unless maybe it’s from Minnesota but they probably don’t want him anyway). Or do you just mean for the higher pick?
Atlanta and Pittsburgh are absolutely the two teams that are going to be in the mix. Both are well out of contention to ge a top three qb in the draft, but Fields would be a nice consolation prize. If Chicago gets a first rounder, it will be there. I could see a deal like Atlanta's first for Fields and a fourth?
I agree with everything you are saying except as I just said in the post above I'm not sure he'd going be a starter in 2024. I just don't see an opening for him with the influx of rookie QB's that are about to hit. I think there is a good chance he'll be given an opportunity to compete for a starting job in 2024, just not a given.
If that’s the case, they should sit him for the rest of the season. The worst thing that could happen is another injury.
If they don't grade out higher than your current starting QB, a team isn't drafting them.
I'm pretty sure the Falcons are trying to trade up for HarrisonJr
Arthur Smith will use his as a kickoff returner and lead blocker for Tyler Algier
Baker Mayfield is light years better than Fields and they aren’t trading a young EDGE player+ for someone else’s castoff.
Who would see 3-4 targets a game.
We’ll disagree on Baker. On all that really, fields isn’t just a cast off.
I’ve never been one to assume all GMs have good plans, but they’re probably better than the vast majority of us posting on a FF board.
Oooooh, bad drop by NE with that win.
Yeah if you had come to me 8 weeks ago, I wasn’t convinced that the right move was to trade Fields. Now I’m 100% convinced that is the right move. If they can get a future 1st in return? Whoa baby look out for the Bears because that will be setting themselves up to become juggernauts in the near future.
I would not want the Steelers to trade a 1st for Fields. The Steelers are bad at protecting the QB so Fields will fail in Pittsburgh as well. The Steelers need to build up their O line and defense before worrying about QB. They’re not going anywhere in 2024 anyways.
Carolina would need to win out and Arizona lose out for the Bears to not get the first pick.
At least the 1.1 pick gives them options. Trade down and get the best OT and Nabers. Assuming you keep Fields of course.
