2024-25 NBA Thread: Finals return after 3-month hiatus (75 Viewers)

[Zow]

So what are the fan rules? I've loved Luka since he was an insane 15-year old and we were marveling in the film room wishing he was recruitable. It was amazing that we got to have him in Dallas through a frankly insane turn of events that took three teams being remarkably dumb (about as dumb as Dallas) for him to fall in our laps.

Why does it have to be LA? Like if Utah pulled this off I'd probably immediately become a Jazz fan. My USMNT one time switch LOL. But switching to the Lakers seems so gross.

Yeah I'll judge you personally and harshly if you jump ship to become a Lakers fan.

My suggestion is to treat it like how many of us Wolves fans cheered for KG after he left. When he got to the finals, it was a rare time I actually rooted for Boston and I was genuinely happy he got a title. That said, I didn't run out and buy any Celtics merch and I still cheered for the Wolves if they were playing Boston and KG.

ETA: I recognize the two situations aren't apples to apples because the window for a KG and Wolves title was clearly closed whereas the Mavs were just in the finals last year and Luka is in his prime.

 

[thecatch]

I am sure you guys have seen this, but it is just unreal -- Embiid has played in only 47% of eligible games for his entire career. That is insane.

He slipped in the draft for this exact reason, so it sucks but that's always been part of the deal with him.

 

[Jayrod]

I am sure you guys have seen this, but it is just unreal -- Embiid has played in only 47% of eligible games for his entire career. That is insane.

He slipped in the draft for this exact reason, so it sucks but that's always been part of the deal with him.

Too many Chick-fil-A milkshakes.

 

[General Malaise]

So what are the fan rules? I've loved Luka since he was an insane 15-year old and we were marveling in the film room wishing he was recruitable. It was amazing that we got to have him in Dallas through a frankly insane turn of events that took three teams being remarkably dumb (about as dumb as Dallas) for him to fall in our laps.

Why does it have to be LA? Like if Utah pulled this off I'd probably immediately become a Jazz fan. My USMNT one time switch LOL. But switching to the Lakers seems so gross.

Call me old fashioned, but I think fan rules should kind of go like this:

1) You root for the home teams where you were born and raised.
2) You adopt teams if/when you move to a new city/area from where you were born and raised. In this example, I think it's important to renounce your original fandom if you have it.
3) If you don't have a home team(s) from your place of birth and don't really live close to any pro team, you get to choose. You're a free agent, but you best have some reasons.
4) You actively root against the rival team of your father's.

That's it. Those are the rules. You don't get to root for a new pro team because your favorite player was traded there. That's just gross, especially if they are your rival.

I think it's a major party foul to root for two different teams in the same sport at the same time. You gotta pick a lane.

 

[General Malaise]

So what are the fan rules? I've loved Luka since he was an insane 15-year old and we were marveling in the film room wishing he was recruitable. It was amazing that we got to have him in Dallas through a frankly insane turn of events that took three teams being remarkably dumb (about as dumb as Dallas) for him to fall in our laps.

Why does it have to be LA? Like if Utah pulled this off I'd probably immediately become a Jazz fan. My USMNT one time switch LOL. But switching to the Lakers seems so gross.

Yeah I'll judge you personally and harshly if you jump ship to become a Lakers fan.

As you should.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

So what are the fan rules? I've loved Luka since he was an insane 15-year old and we were marveling in the film room wishing he was recruitable. It was amazing that we got to have him in Dallas through a frankly insane turn of events that took three teams being remarkably dumb (about as dumb as Dallas) for him to fall in our laps.

Why does it have to be LA? Like if Utah pulled this off I'd probably immediately become a Jazz fan. My USMNT one time switch LOL. But switching to the Lakers seems so gross.

Call me old fashioned, but I think fan rules should kind of go like this:

1) You root for the home teams where you were born and raised.
2) You adopt teams if/when you move to a new city/area from where you were born and raised. In this example, I think it's important to renounce your original fandom if you have it.
3) If you don't have a home team(s) from your place of birth and don't really live close to any pro team, you get to choose. You're a free agent, but you best have some reasons.
4) You actively root against the rival team of your father's.

That's it. Those are the rules. You don't get to root for a new pro team because your favorite player was traded there. That's just gross, especially if they are your rival.

I think it's a major party foul to root for two different teams in the same sport at the same time. You gotta pick a lane.

There’s no player loyalty and no team loyalty anymore - maybe the fans should reassess their “rules” in light of this.

 

[SFBayDuck]

Kevin Durant is correct about loyalty

He is? Loyalty doesn’t even exist in college sports anymore, let alone in the NBA with literal billions of dollars being thrown around. That’s been the case with NBA players since at least “The Decision”. I like KD, but he knows as well as anyone that it’s just business, on both sides, and has been for yearabout loyalty.

He is. Since many won't hear what is being said because it's Durant saying it (fair) I'll point to Giannis. He was asked about the Luka trade and had some thoughts:

"I thought it was fake news. It's insane. Obviously, I've played against Luka a lot of times and AD and all the people that were included in the trade. This is the world we're living in. It's a business, you have to understand nobody's safe, nobody's safe. If a five-time All-NBA first-team, a 25-year-old, a guy that just made it to the Finals seven months ago, a guy that led the league in scoring, a guy that finished second or third in MVP voting, a guy that scored 70-something points one time, a guy that had a 60-point triple-double, a guy that knows how to play the game of basketball, I can keep going and going, an All-Star, not just an All-Star, an All-Star starter, a guy that averaged 34/9/10, but I'm not here to talk about Luka and how good he is, I think everybody in the world knows he's one of the best players in the league

At the end of the day, l've said this in the past, you get evaluated every single day. You don't take nothing for granted. Being an All-Star, you don't take it for granted, Being able to go out there and put the jersey on and represent your team, you don't take that for granted. Being out there and representing your family, you don't take that for granted. Every second that you play in an NBA game, I love it, I try to play with joy. And at the same time, I understand the business of basketball, that sometimes teams need to make the best moves that are good for their organization and for their position and for their own pursuit of greatness and championships. But at the same time, it goes both ways. You cannot have a double standard here. When the teams make the best moves for them and they believe they can get another player to win now. when a player believes that he can go to a different team and he believes he can have a chance to win a championship, we cannot crucify the person and say that he's not loyal and he didn't do the right thing and he let everybody down. Because history has shown you, you have to do what is best for you and your family. You have to do what's best/most important to win."

That's Giannis in a nutshell. He and Durant are really saying the same things about loyalty. Seems like more fans are getting wise to this in regards to the teams needing to be more accountable on that front. See the Mavs & Luka w/current ownership vs the Mavs & Dirk w/Cuban.

As Don Draper once said, "THAT'S WHAT THE MONEY IS FOR!" Everyone involved with professional sports is going to be overanalyzed, criticized, and be the target of outrage and faux outrage alike. That's not just players but owners, GMs, everyone. Remember what "fan" is short for. And also remember that without the fans, there is no money. It's just the nature of the business. It's disingenuous though for KD, Giannis, and others to act like the players are the only ones being criticized or held accountable. Owners and GMs get lambasted all of the time! I can't watch ESPN non-live sports programming anymore because that's pretty much all it is, now with yelling! At least the players also get constant adoration, do the team execs?

As for loyalty, show me an industry that has that in any real way? That's not just a professional sports thing. Business is business.

Off topic for the thread, but as someone who is way more of a fan of college sports than professional, I've really struggled the last couple of years as those lines have blurred to the point of almost completely going away. I've long had a policy of not booing your players, even for lack of effort, and not interacting with or even tagging them on social media. After all, they're just 18-22 year old "kids" playing a game. It's part of what I loved about college sports, even if at the highest levels it's been a bit of an illusion for a while now. But many of them are now 5th-6th-7th year seniors. Some of them now make more as "student athletes" than most people in the stadium or arena will ever make in a year. I live in a college town, I see the cars some of them drive and the bling they wear. I don't begrudge them any of that, but should that come with additional accountability?

I don't really see myself changing my behavior, but damned if I didn't want to loudly boo while sitting in the arena last night as I watched my favorite basketball squad put up another lackluster effort against an inferior team.

 

[the moops]

2) You adopt teams if/when you move to a new city/area from where you were born and raised. In this example, I think it's important to renounce your original fandom if you have it.

 

[General Malaise]

Looking at the the standings this morning...

• The longest winning streak in the Western Conference belongs to your Portland Trail Blazers. The Blazers are 4 games up (with two teams between) on the 5th worst record. They are going to be just competent enough to keep them from getting a difference maker in the draft.

Yeah, while this current version of Portland has actually provided some temporary thrills to a downtrodden fan base, the overwhelming sentiment here is "WHAT THE CUCK ARE YOU GUYS DOING???11?11".

And I get it, I would far prefer a tank job (and will likely still get one) but it'll be too late. The team messed around and won games they were better off losing.

That said, I think there might be some benefit to creating a culture of winning for the young nucleus of the team, especially if they aren't moving away from HC Chauncey Billups. If you polled Portland fans earlier this year, I'd say 75% or more would have wanted Chauncey fired. Today? He might just be doing enough to retain his job and if he does and you want to win games next season, maybe this is the correct course?

I don't know. They're a million miles away from being legit. They don't have an all-world game changer like Wemby. They still carry around bloated contracts of veteran players who are going to be tricky to move (or, more aptly put, won't fetch a return Joe Six-Pack Portland fan will be happy with).

BUT - They sure do have some future draft picks to use as trade capital if they wanted to move down in the draft or a future draft. Milwaukie's first round picks later this decade are looking juicier and juicier by the day.

 

[General Malaise]

2) You adopt teams if/when you move to a new city/area from where you were born and raised. In this example, I think it's important to renounce your original fandom if you have it.

This is no way to get into heaven, son.

 

[Desert_Power]

So what are the fan rules? I've loved Luka since he was an insane 15-year old and we were marveling in the film room wishing he was recruitable. It was amazing that we got to have him in Dallas through a frankly insane turn of events that took three teams being remarkably dumb (about as dumb as Dallas) for him to fall in our laps.

Why does it have to be LA? Like if Utah pulled this off I'd probably immediately become a Jazz fan. My USMNT one time switch LOL. But switching to the Lakers seems so gross.

Call me old fashioned, but I think fan rules should kind of go like this:

1) You root for the home teams where you were born and raised.
2) You adopt teams if/when you move to a new city/area from where you were born and raised. In this example, I think it's important to renounce your original fandom if you have it.
3) If you don't have a home team(s) from your place of birth and don't really live close to any pro team, you get to choose. You're a free agent, but you best have some reasons.
4) You actively root against the rival team of your father's.

That's it. Those are the rules. You don't get to root for a new pro team because your favorite player was traded there. That's just gross, especially if they are your rival.

I think it's a major party foul to root for two different teams in the same sport at the same time. You gotta pick a lane.

Using my NFL fandom as an example:

1. Didn't have a home team as I grew up in Charleston. Closest team is in Atlanta. Become a Miami Dolphins fan because an uncle who likes them convinces me Dan Marino is cool at an impressionable age. Didn't really care too much when the Panthers were created 3.5 hours away.
2. Moved to Charlotte 15 years ago. Have increasingly become a fan of the Panthers (and Hornets but had no conflict). Not going to disregard my earlier affinity but it has been about even in recent years. Not sure what I'll do if I go on their every 6 year visit.
3. Always a soft spot for my dad's team of the Vikings too. Probably hope they get a Super Bowl more than the first two just due to the time element for him. I could never hate Detroit.

 

[Deamon]

2) You adopt teams if/when you move to a new city/area from where you were born and raised. In this example, I think it's important to renounce your original fandom if you have it.

Yep, that was his major error in his list. In fact, I think it's a huge party foul to swap because you move to a new city and give up on the team you grew up cheering for. Those people are the worst... just accept that you'll be an outcast and cheering for another team that isn't in your city.

 

[General Malaise]

So what are the fan rules? I've loved Luka since he was an insane 15-year old and we were marveling in the film room wishing he was recruitable. It was amazing that we got to have him in Dallas through a frankly insane turn of events that took three teams being remarkably dumb (about as dumb as Dallas) for him to fall in our laps.

Why does it have to be LA? Like if Utah pulled this off I'd probably immediately become a Jazz fan. My USMNT one time switch LOL. But switching to the Lakers seems so gross.

Call me old fashioned, but I think fan rules should kind of go like this:

1) You root for the home teams where you were born and raised.
2) You adopt teams if/when you move to a new city/area from where you were born and raised. In this example, I think it's important to renounce your original fandom if you have it.
3) If you don't have a home team(s) from your place of birth and don't really live close to any pro team, you get to choose. You're a free agent, but you best have some reasons.
4) You actively root against the rival team of your father's.

That's it. Those are the rules. You don't get to root for a new pro team because your favorite player was traded there. That's just gross, especially if they are your rival.

I think it's a major party foul to root for two different teams in the same sport at the same time. You gotta pick a lane.

There’s no player loyalty and no team loyalty anymore - maybe the fans should reassess their “rules” in light of this.

Oh, there's never been any loyalty. Jerry Seinfeld's joke about rooting for clothes is over 30 years old.

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[General Malaise]

2) You adopt teams if/when you move to a new city/area from where you were born and raised. In this example, I think it's important to renounce your original fandom if you have it.

Yep, that was his major error in his list. In fact, I think it's a huge party foul to swap because you move to a new city and give up on the team you grew up cheering for. Those people are the worst... just accept that you'll be an outcast and cheering for another team that isn't in your city.

Except that's not the part he bolded here.

 

[the moops]

2) You adopt teams if/when you move to a new city/area from where you were born and raised. In this example, I think it's important to renounce your original fandom if you have it.

Yep, that was his major error in his list. In fact, I think it's a huge party foul to swap because you move to a new city and give up on the team you grew up cheering for. Those people are the worst... just accept that you'll be an outcast and cheering for another team that isn't in your city.

Except that's not the part he bolded here.

I am a Boston Celtics fan. I moved to Minneapolis 18 years ago. I am still a Celtics fan, but have adopted the Wolves as my 2nd team. This is the way

 

[Deamon]

2) You adopt teams if/when you move to a new city/area from where you were born and raised. In this example, I think it's important to renounce your original fandom if you have it.

Yep, that was his major error in his list. In fact, I think it's a huge party foul to swap because you move to a new city and give up on the team you grew up cheering for. Those people are the worst... just accept that you'll be an outcast and cheering for another team that isn't in your city.

Except that's not the part he bolded here.

Sure it is. You said it's important to abandon your original fandom you grew up with, if you move to a new city.

 

[Deamon]

2) You adopt teams if/when you move to a new city/area from where you were born and raised. In this example, I think it's important to renounce your original fandom if you have it.

Yep, that was his major error in his list. In fact, I think it's a huge party foul to swap because you move to a new city and give up on the team you grew up cheering for. Those people are the worst... just accept that you'll be an outcast and cheering for another team that isn't in your city.

Except that's not the part he bolded here.

I am a Boston Celtics fan. I moved to Minneapolis 18 years ago. I am still a Celtics fan, but have adopted the Wolves as my 2nd team. This is the way

correct. abandoning the team you grew up cheering for all your life just because you moved? Massive party foul.

 

[Zow]

2) You adopt teams if/when you move to a new city/area from where you were born and raised. In this example, I think it's important to renounce your original fandom if you have it.

Yep, that was his major error in his list. In fact, I think it's a huge party foul to swap because you move to a new city and give up on the team you grew up cheering for. Those people are the worst... just accept that you'll be an outcast and cheering for another team that isn't in your city.

Except that's not the part he bolded here.

I am a Boston Celtics fan. I moved to Minneapolis 18 years ago. I am still a Celtics fan, but have adopted the Wolves as my 2nd team. This is the way

correct. abandoning the team you grew up cheering for all your life just because you moved? Massive party foul.

Agreed. I'll root for the Arizona teams if my teams aren't in it, but it never once crossed my mind to switch my favorite teams just because I moved.

 

[General Malaise]

So what are the fan rules? I've loved Luka since he was an insane 15-year old and we were marveling in the film room wishing he was recruitable. It was amazing that we got to have him in Dallas through a frankly insane turn of events that took three teams being remarkably dumb (about as dumb as Dallas) for him to fall in our laps.

Why does it have to be LA? Like if Utah pulled this off I'd probably immediately become a Jazz fan. My USMNT one time switch LOL. But switching to the Lakers seems so gross.

Call me old fashioned, but I think fan rules should kind of go like this:

1) You root for the home teams where you were born and raised.
2) You adopt teams if/when you move to a new city/area from where you were born and raised. In this example, I think it's important to renounce your original fandom if you have it.
3) If you don't have a home team(s) from your place of birth and don't really live close to any pro team, you get to choose. You're a free agent, but you best have some reasons.
4) You actively root against the rival team of your father's.

That's it. Those are the rules. You don't get to root for a new pro team because your favorite player was traded there. That's just gross, especially if they are your rival.

I think it's a major party foul to root for two different teams in the same sport at the same time. You gotta pick a lane.

Using my NFL fandom as an example:

1. Didn't have a home team as I grew up in Charleston. Closest team is in Atlanta. Become a Miami Dolphins fan because an uncle who likes them convinces me Dan Marino is cool at an impressionable age. Didn't really care too much when the Panthers were created 3.5 hours away.
2. Moved to Charlotte 15 years ago. Have increasingly become a fan of the Panthers (and Hornets but had no conflict). Not going to disregard my earlier affinity but it has been about even in recent years. Not sure what I'll do if I go on their every 6 year visit.
3. Always a soft spot for my dad's team of the Vikings too. Probably hope they get a Super Bowl more than the first two just due to the time element for him. I could never hate Detroit.

I think that's reasonable. And I think we change as we mature in life. For example, I grew up in Dallas and cheered on the 80's Mavericks with as much zest and enthusiasm as a young fella could muster. Rolando Blackman hung on my wall, I kept waiting for Roy Tarpley to 'grow-up' and live up to his vast promise, was Sleepy Sam Perkins fan #1. But, we didn't have much money, so I think I went to maybe 3 Mavericks' games in my life, give or take a couple. Radio or TV mostly.

Then I go off to college, the early 1990's Mavericks were TEH SUCK. I mean, look it up. That 1992 team was dreadfully bad. But, my dad would send me the Sunday Dallas Morning News Sports Page every week and I followed along dutifully.

By 1996, I was living thousands of miles away in the Portland, OR area. Neither Dallas nor Portland were any good and so I felt like a sports' nomad of sorts. I missed out on all the Dirk years in Dallas (boy, I would have enjoyed rooting for him) and for a while, just made fun of the Portland Jail Blazers to all the Blazer fans out here. Portland wasn't just a bad NBA team, they were constantly running afoul of the law and embarrassing the city.

But by 1999/2000, Portland became a real team and I started making real money. The sort of money that could buy NBA tickets and with only one-horse in the sports' barn, it was either watch the Blazers or watch college football if you wanted to scratch the itch to watch thrilling live action. By 2003, my company had season tickets in the 100 level at the Rose Garden and by then, I was fully on board the Blazer band wagon.

Does that make me a traitor to Dallas? I guess. I still root for the Cowboys (it's an abusive relationship at this point), the Stars and my beloved Rangers, but Portland is absent any teams in those pro sports and I'll be good and damned if I ever - EVER - catch myself rooting for a team from Seattle. Screw those monkey clowns.

And when Dallas won their finals, I was happy - happy for the city, happy for all my Dallas friends, happy for part of my childhood - but I didn't dare celebrate it. For if/when Portland ever wins a title, I'll be celebrating like a drunken carnival barker and I won't feel the least bit bad about it.

 

[General Malaise]

2) You adopt teams if/when you move to a new city/area from where you were born and raised. In this example, I think it's important to renounce your original fandom if you have it.

Yep, that was his major error in his list. In fact, I think it's a huge party foul to swap because you move to a new city and give up on the team you grew up cheering for. Those people are the worst... just accept that you'll be an outcast and cheering for another team that isn't in your city.

Except that's not the part he bolded here.

I am a Boston Celtics fan. I moved to Minneapolis 18 years ago. I am still a Celtics fan, but have adopted the Wolves as my 2nd team. This is the way

correct. abandoning the team you grew up cheering for all your life just because you moved? Massive party foul.

Agree to disagree. I think I made a case for it here. I think you can adopt a new team in a new city if you renounce your old team.

 

[Mister CIA]

I think that's reasonable. And I think we change as we mature in life. For example, I grew up in Dallas and cheered on the 80's Mavericks with as much zest and enthusiasm as a young fella could muster. Rolando Blackman hung on my wall, I kept waiting for Roy Tarpley to 'grow-up' and live up to his vast promise, was Sleepy Sam Perkins fan #1. But, we didn't have much money, so I think I went to maybe 3 Mavericks' games in my life, give or take a couple. Radio or TV mostly.

You forgot to mention Derek Harper.

 

[General Malaise]

2) You adopt teams if/when you move to a new city/area from where you were born and raised. In this example, I think it's important to renounce your original fandom if you have it.

Yep, that was his major error in his list. In fact, I think it's a huge party foul to swap because you move to a new city and give up on the team you grew up cheering for. Those people are the worst... just accept that you'll be an outcast and cheering for another team that isn't in your city.

Except that's not the part he bolded here.

I am a Boston Celtics fan. I moved to Minneapolis 18 years ago. I am still a Celtics fan, but have adopted the Wolves as my 2nd team. This is the way

correct. abandoning the team you grew up cheering for all your life just because you moved? Massive party foul.

Agreed. I'll root for the Arizona teams if my teams aren't in it, but it never once crossed my mind to switch my favorite teams just because I moved.

Wait until your kids ask you why daddy is cheering against the teams they cheer for.

 

[Deamon]

Does that make me a traitor to Dallas?

Yes. But Dallas fans love to cheer for teams in other cities whenever they get good, so I guess you're fine to have swapped to a city you moved to.

I could never though. Stick with the team you grew up cheering for no matter how good they are or where you live. That's the rule. If you move somewhere, they can be your 2nd team.

 

[Deamon]

2) You adopt teams if/when you move to a new city/area from where you were born and raised. In this example, I think it's important to renounce your original fandom if you have it.

Yep, that was his major error in his list. In fact, I think it's a huge party foul to swap because you move to a new city and give up on the team you grew up cheering for. Those people are the worst... just accept that you'll be an outcast and cheering for another team that isn't in your city.

Except that's not the part he bolded here.

I am a Boston Celtics fan. I moved to Minneapolis 18 years ago. I am still a Celtics fan, but have adopted the Wolves as my 2nd team. This is the way

correct. abandoning the team you grew up cheering for all your life just because you moved? Massive party foul.

Agreed. I'll root for the Arizona teams if my teams aren't in it, but it never once crossed my mind to switch my favorite teams just because I moved.

That's because you're a good fan.

 

[General Malaise]

I think that's reasonable. And I think we change as we mature in life. For example, I grew up in Dallas and cheered on the 80's Mavericks with as much zest and enthusiasm as a young fella could muster. Rolando Blackman hung on my wall, I kept waiting for Roy Tarpley to 'grow-up' and live up to his vast promise, was Sleepy Sam Perkins fan #1. But, we didn't have much money, so I think I went to maybe 3 Mavericks' games in my life, give or take a couple. Radio or TV mostly.

You forgot to mention Derek Harper.

Harper, Blackmon, Aguire, Perkins, Schremph, Tarpley, Davidson Big James Donaldson and fan favorites Brad Davis and the ultimate towel waiver Bill Wennington!

Man, that was a squad!

And then Tarpley got in more trouble, Perkins left for LA, Aguire got traded for fleas and it was over in a hurry.

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

fan favorites Brad Davis

Epic 70's mustache.

 

[General Malaise]

Does that make me a traitor to Dallas?

Yes. But Dallas fans love to cheer for teams in other cities whenever they get good, so I guess you're fine to have swapped to a city you moved to.

I could never though. Stick with the team you grew up cheering for no matter how good they are or where you live. That's the rule. If you move somewhere, they can be your 2nd team.

That's why I think you have to renounce your childhood team.

I'm sticking to my guns here.

 

[Mister CIA]

I think that's reasonable. And I think we change as we mature in life. For example, I grew up in Dallas and cheered on the 80's Mavericks with as much zest and enthusiasm as a young fella could muster. Rolando Blackman hung on my wall, I kept waiting for Roy Tarpley to 'grow-up' and live up to his vast promise, was Sleepy Sam Perkins fan #1. But, we didn't have much money, so I think I went to maybe 3 Mavericks' games in my life, give or take a couple. Radio or TV mostly.

You forgot to mention Derek Harper.

Harper, Blackmon, Aguire, Perkins, Schremph, Tarpley, Davidson and fan favorites Brad Davis and the ultimate towel waiver Bill Wennington!

Man, that was a squad!

And then Tarpley got in more trouble, Perkins left for LA, Aguire got traded for fleas and it was over in a hurry.

And BIG James Donaldson.

 

[General Malaise]

fan favorites Brad Davis

Epic 70's mustache.

Fun fact: Brad Davis was the FIRST Mavericks' player to have his number retired and hung from the rafters of old Reunion Arena.

Brad. Davis.


AND YOU'RE TELLING ME I COMMITTED A FOUL ABAONDONING THIS TEAM??????

 

[General Malaise]

I think that's reasonable. And I think we change as we mature in life. For example, I grew up in Dallas and cheered on the 80's Mavericks with as much zest and enthusiasm as a young fella could muster. Rolando Blackman hung on my wall, I kept waiting for Roy Tarpley to 'grow-up' and live up to his vast promise, was Sleepy Sam Perkins fan #1. But, we didn't have much money, so I think I went to maybe 3 Mavericks' games in my life, give or take a couple. Radio or TV mostly.

You forgot to mention Derek Harper.

Harper, Blackmon, Aguire, Perkins, Schremph, Tarpley, Davidson and fan favorites Brad Davis and the ultimate towel waiver Bill Wennington!

Man, that was a squad!

And then Tarpley got in more trouble, Perkins left for LA, Aguire got traded for fleas and it was over in a hurry.

And BIG James Donaldson.

D'OH! I called him "Davidson".

 

[Gr00vus]

Root for whoever you want to root for, for whatever reason. I don't care.

 

[General Malaise]

I have a feeling a *LOT* more people are renouncing their fandom of the Dallas Mavericks currently......

 

[Mister CIA]

I think that's reasonable. And I think we change as we mature in life. For example, I grew up in Dallas and cheered on the 80's Mavericks with as much zest and enthusiasm as a young fella could muster. Rolando Blackman hung on my wall, I kept waiting for Roy Tarpley to 'grow-up' and live up to his vast promise, was Sleepy Sam Perkins fan #1. But, we didn't have much money, so I think I went to maybe 3 Mavericks' games in my life, give or take a couple. Radio or TV mostly.

You forgot to mention Derek Harper.

Harper, Blackmon, Aguire, Perkins, Schremph, Tarpley, Davidson and fan favorites Brad Davis and the ultimate towel waiver Bill Wennington!

Man, that was a squad!

And then Tarpley got in more trouble, Perkins left for LA, Aguire got traded for fleas and it was over in a hurry.

And BIG James Donaldson.

D'OH! I called him "Davidson".

I glossed right past the Davidson reference. Figured my memory was not up to the task (Spoiler: It's not)

 

[General Malaise]

Root for whoever you want to root for, for whatever reason. I don't care.

That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.

 

[msudaisy26]

Root for whoever you want to root for, for whatever reason. I don't care.

That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.

I am with Groovus. It is your limited time on the planet and your money if you choose to spend it on the team, so you can root for whoever you want.

 

[General Malaise]

Root for whoever you want to root for, for whatever reason. I don't care.

That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.

I am with Groovus. It is your limited time on the planet and your money if you choose to spend it on the team, so you can root for whoever you want.

I'm often reminded that a good 7%-8% of the world's population is just broken beyond repair.

 

[thecatch]

fan favorites Brad Davis

Epic 70's mustache.

Fun fact: Brad Davis was the FIRST Mavericks' player to have his number retired and hung from the rafters of old Reunion Arena.

Brad. Davis.


AND YOU'RE TELLING ME I COMMITTED A FOUL ABAONDONING THIS TEAM??????

I've tried to quit my team multiple times over the last 17 years and it just doesn't stick. Props to people who can disentangle themselves from those formative memories and experiences. It no doubt makes for a healthier relationship to sports.

 

[msudaisy26]

Root for whoever you want to root for, for whatever reason. I don't care.

That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.

I am with Groovus. It is your limited time on the planet and your money if you choose to spend it on the team, so you can root for whoever you want.

I'm often reminded that a good 7%-8% of the world's population is just broken beyond repair.

I love the Pistons, but they have had some really unwatchable periods in their history. During this most recent period I like the Warriors, they were fun.

 

[Gr00vus]

Root for whoever you want to root for, for whatever reason. I don't care.

That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.

I am with Groovus. It is your limited time on the planet and your money if you choose to spend it on the team, so you can root for whoever you want.

I'm often reminded that a good 7%-8% of the world's population is just broken beyond repair.

I figure you watch sports for entertainment. Chaining yourself to a franchise like the Browns no matter what is like hate watching crummy t.v. shows and movies, forcing yourself to finish reading a lousy book that you aren't enjoying, continuing to eat at a restaurant that has awful food and bad service. Except its worse- it goes on for year after year. Like daisy said, life's too short, move on to something that's enjoyable.

 

[SFBayDuck]

Harper, Blackmon, Aguire, Perkins, Schremph, Tarpley, Davidson Big James Donaldson and fan favorites Brad Davis and the ultimate towel waiver Bill Wennington!

Man, that was a squad!

And then Tarpley got in more trouble, Perkins left for LA, Aguire got traded for fleas and it was over in a hurry.

fun team to watch. And I've hung out with and had a few drinks with two of those guys!

 

[General Malaise]

fan favorites Brad Davis

Epic 70's mustache.

Fun fact: Brad Davis was the FIRST Mavericks' player to have his number retired and hung from the rafters of old Reunion Arena.

Brad. Davis.


AND YOU'RE TELLING ME I COMMITTED A FOUL ABAONDONING THIS TEAM??????

I've tried to quit my team multiple times over the last 17 years and it just doesn't stick. Props to people who can disentangle themselves from those formative memories and experiences. It no doubt makes for a healthier relationship to sports.

Quickest and easiest way to do this? Gamble against them. Once you do that, it's really over.

 

[General Malaise]

Root for whoever you want to root for, for whatever reason. I don't care.

That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.

I am with Groovus. It is your limited time on the planet and your money if you choose to spend it on the team, so you can root for whoever you want.

I'm often reminded that a good 7%-8% of the world's population is just broken beyond repair.

I love the Pistons, but they have had some really unwatchable periods in their history. During this most recent period I like the Warriors, they were fun.

But, if given tickets to their game in Detroit and sitting in the front row, who are you rooting for that night?

 

[thecatch]

fan favorites Brad Davis

Epic 70's mustache.

Fun fact: Brad Davis was the FIRST Mavericks' player to have his number retired and hung from the rafters of old Reunion Arena.

Brad. Davis.


AND YOU'RE TELLING ME I COMMITTED A FOUL ABAONDONING THIS TEAM??????

I've tried to quit my team multiple times over the last 17 years and it just doesn't stick. Props to people who can disentangle themselves from those formative memories and experiences. It no doubt makes for a healthier relationship to sports.

Quickest and easiest way to do this? Gamble against them. Once you do that, it's really over.

That seems like replacing one unhealthy relationship with sports with another, but whatever works for people.

 

[msudaisy26]

Root for whoever you want to root for, for whatever reason. I don't care.

That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.

I am with Groovus. It is your limited time on the planet and your money if you choose to spend it on the team, so you can root for whoever you want.

I'm often reminded that a good 7%-8% of the world's population is just broken beyond repair.

I love the Pistons, but they have had some really unwatchable periods in their history. During this most recent period I like the Warriors, they were fun.

But, if given tickets to their game in Detroit and sitting in the front row, who are you rooting for that night?

Right now the Pistons. The last few years the Warriors. Pistons need more losses for draft lottery and the Warriors were trying to win.

 

[General Malaise]

Root for whoever you want to root for, for whatever reason. I don't care.

That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.

I am with Groovus. It is your limited time on the planet and your money if you choose to spend it on the team, so you can root for whoever you want.

I'm often reminded that a good 7%-8% of the world's population is just broken beyond repair.

I figure you watch sports for entertainment. Chaining yourself to a franchise like the Browns no matter what is like hate watching crummy t.v. shows and movies, forcing yourself to finish reading a lousy book that you aren't enjoying, continuing to eat at a restaurant that has lousy food and bad service. Except its worse- it goes on for year after year. Like daisy said, life's too short, move on to something that's enjoyable.

You sound like somebody that grew up in the Cleveland area.....it SOMETIMES does get better for other franchises in sports. Just not the Browns, apparently.

Let's say you grew up rooting for the San Antonio Spurs. Bruh, your 80s, 90s, aughts and even early teens gave you plenty of hope and optimism, year in, year out. But then the doldrums hit Alamo City and there were some rough rough years. Well, given your analogy of a bad TV show, restaurant or book, you'd have abandoned ship! ENOUGH OF THIS, I CAN'T TAKE IT.

But what's this? A 7 foot 5 Inch French Wilt Chamberlain with better shooting touch arrives and WA LA! Hope is back, baby. But not for you, Gr00vus, you gave up early. You're now rooting for Dallas because you loved Luka. Whoops, Nico.

 

[General Malaise]

fan favorites Brad Davis

Epic 70's mustache.

Fun fact: Brad Davis was the FIRST Mavericks' player to have his number retired and hung from the rafters of old Reunion Arena.

Brad. Davis.


AND YOU'RE TELLING ME I COMMITTED A FOUL ABAONDONING THIS TEAM??????

I've tried to quit my team multiple times over the last 17 years and it just doesn't stick. Props to people who can disentangle themselves from those formative memories and experiences. It no doubt makes for a healthier relationship to sports.

Quickest and easiest way to do this? Gamble against them. Once you do that, it's really over.

That seems like replacing one unhealthy relationship with sports with another, but whatever works for people.

Oh.....you are after a healthy lifestyle? Yeah, I'm definitely the wrong guy for that. You should see what I had for dinner the other night.

 

[Desert_Power]

My basketball path is a bit weird I guess. I liked Bulls like most kids who found what basketball is during Jordan's peak, but there wasn't much keeping me around after. Did end up going to a game in Chicago when Artest was playing there. Liked the Rockets for a bit as they would have a lot of players I really liked (Late Hakeem stuff into Stevie Francis and Yao. McGrady had a stint, always liked his shoes). Ben Wallace a personal favorite of mine so liked those teams.

Didn't really follow basketball as closely during college. I remember studying abroad in Spain during the NBA finals and thinking there was just no way I could care.

First Charlotte Bobcats game I went to was actually some free tickets I got from Bass'N'Brew in some version of this thread. My current wife and I went to a game after touring some apartments in Charlotte since I was moving there in a couple of months. Been a fan since even though they suck. Didn't have anyone to really renounce. Used to have more friends who wanted to go to games. Often catch the train with fans going to or from the arena.

 

[Zow]

2) You adopt teams if/when you move to a new city/area from where you were born and raised. In this example, I think it's important to renounce your original fandom if you have it.

Yep, that was his major error in his list. In fact, I think it's a huge party foul to swap because you move to a new city and give up on the team you grew up cheering for. Those people are the worst... just accept that you'll be an outcast and cheering for another team that isn't in your city.

Except that's not the part he bolded here.

I am a Boston Celtics fan. I moved to Minneapolis 18 years ago. I am still a Celtics fan, but have adopted the Wolves as my 2nd team. This is the way

correct. abandoning the team you grew up cheering for all your life just because you moved? Massive party foul.

Agreed. I'll root for the Arizona teams if my teams aren't in it, but it never once crossed my mind to switch my favorite teams just because I moved.

Wait until your kids ask you why daddy is cheering against the teams they cheer for.

I look forward to that day and will happily tell them.

 

[General Malaise]

Where in Spain did you study?

 

[General Malaise]

2) You adopt teams if/when you move to a new city/area from where you were born and raised. In this example, I think it's important to renounce your original fandom if you have it.

Yep, that was his major error in his list. In fact, I think it's a huge party foul to swap because you move to a new city and give up on the team you grew up cheering for. Those people are the worst... just accept that you'll be an outcast and cheering for another team that isn't in your city.

Except that's not the part he bolded here.

I am a Boston Celtics fan. I moved to Minneapolis 18 years ago. I am still a Celtics fan, but have adopted the Wolves as my 2nd team. This is the way

correct. abandoning the team you grew up cheering for all your life just because you moved? Massive party foul.

Agreed. I'll root for the Arizona teams if my teams aren't in it, but it never once crossed my mind to switch my favorite teams just because I moved.

Wait until your kids ask you why daddy is cheering against the teams they cheer for.

I look forward to that day and will happily tell them.

They're going to strip you of your "World's Greatest Dad" T-shirt and break your coffee mug they got you for Father's Day too. Just letting you know in advance.