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2024 Summer of Soccer - Euro's, Copa America, Olympics, WCQing (8 Viewers)

CONMEBOL has opened an investigation in to the in stands fight after the Uruguay Colombia game.
Expect an announcement after the final?
They used unusually strong wording in the initial press release almost certainly seeming to guarantee some one is going to get severely punished.

It will involve a bunch of interviews I assume with whom ever is they can find (this is the hard part. They will probably be able to talk to the Uruguayan families easier than some random Colombian fan who probably drove in from another state).

I have no idea how long it will take unless the camera's give them all they need (which I doubt since families are involved)
 
CONMEBOL has opened an investigation in to the in stands fight after the Uruguay Colombia game.
Expect an announcement after the final?
They used unusually strong wording in the initial press release almost certainly seeming to guarantee some one is going to get severely punished.

It will involve a bunch of interviews I assume with whom ever is they can find (this is the hard part. They will probably be able to talk to the Uruguayan families easier than some random Colombian fan who probably drove in from another state).

I have no idea how long it will take unless the camera's give them all they need (which I doubt since families are involved)
Heard some discussion on this yesterday afternoon. Mostly around Canada winning with Uruguay not caring and not being at full strength due to suspensions and in several years Canada can say "Remember when we took 3rd at the Copa?"

Heck, It might be in Uruguay's best interest to offer to suspend the couple players for this 3rd place game in exchange for nothing further. Assuming they feel there will be some punishment despite the extenuating circumstances. Want to minimize the effect on WC Qualifying games in the future.
 
CONMEBOL has opened an investigation in to the in stands fight after the Uruguay Colombia game.
Expect an announcement after the final?
They used unusually strong wording in the initial press release almost certainly seeming to guarantee some one is going to get severely punished.

It will involve a bunch of interviews I assume with whom ever is they can find (this is the hard part. They will probably be able to talk to the Uruguayan families easier than some random Colombian fan who probably drove in from another state).

I have no idea how long it will take unless the camera's give them all they need (which I doubt since families are involved)
Heard some discussion on this yesterday afternoon. Mostly around Canada winning with Uruguay not caring and not being at full strength due to suspensions and in several years Canada can say "Remember when we took 3rd at the Copa?"

Heck, It might be in Uruguay's best interest to offer to suspend the couple players for this 3rd place game in exchange for nothing further. Assuming they feel there will be some punishment despite the extenuating circumstances. Want to minimize the effect on WC Qualifying games in the future.
I assume there are sponsorship deals in place but I really don't enjoy the 3rd place games in these tournaments.
 
CONMEBOL has opened an investigation in to the in stands fight after the Uruguay Colombia game.
Expect an announcement after the final?
They used unusually strong wording in the initial press release almost certainly seeming to guarantee some one is going to get severely punished.

It will involve a bunch of interviews I assume with whom ever is they can find (this is the hard part. They will probably be able to talk to the Uruguayan families easier than some random Colombian fan who probably drove in from another state).

I have no idea how long it will take unless the camera's give them all they need (which I doubt since families are involved)
Heard some discussion on this yesterday afternoon. Mostly around Canada winning with Uruguay not caring and not being at full strength due to suspensions and in several years Canada can say "Remember when we took 3rd at the Copa?"

Heck, It might be in Uruguay's best interest to offer to suspend the couple players for this 3rd place game in exchange for nothing further. Assuming they feel there will be some punishment despite the extenuating circumstances. Want to minimize the effect on WC Qualifying games in the future.
I assume there are sponsorship deals in place but I really don't enjoy the 3rd place games in these tournaments.
I don't either. Don't really see the need when there are so many games all year already. Its for the money though.
 
Heard this morning on SiriusXM FC in regard to the Harry Kane PK:

No one in the world thought it was a PK except the refs, VAR, and Landon Donovan.
And me.

Yeah, I get the LD joke but I would assume if you could somehow remove bias or reenact the play with AI that you would see something like 30-50% would say penalty.

Oh for sure, esp since those in this thread fall on both sides.

I think it was Charlie Stillitano that made the comment while they were also discussing the media outrage over the Cucurella non PK call and the ref's incompetence in both.
 
Heard this morning on SiriusXM FC in regard to the Harry Kane PK:

No one in the world thought it was a PK except the refs, VAR, and Landon Donovan.
I understand the PK, but like many don't agree with it.

What is a defender supposed to do there? Not try to win the ball? Acquiesce meekly and just let the forward shoot without defending?

I haven't watched it over and over, but I recall Kane winning the shot and then kicking the defender with his follow through., not the defender kicking Harry while he was shooting. I don't care if the defenders boot was high...so was Harry's.

Did I miss something else?
 
CONMEBOL has opened an investigation in to the in stands fight after the Uruguay Colombia game.

URUGUAY DEVELOPMENT 🇺🇾

Around 8:00 p.m., AUF received the documents that have the 11 names of the players who participated in the final episodes for CONMEBOL.

The documents contain the names, number in the competition and the cause attributed to them for the purposes of dealing with the sanctions to be determined.

The 11 players are:

02, José María Gimenez
03, Sebastian Caceres
04, Ronald Araujo
06, Rodrigo Bentancur
11, Facundo Pellistri
16, Mathias Olivera
17, Matias Vina
18, Brain Rodriguez
19, Darwin Nuñez
21, Emiliano Martinez
23, Santiago Mele

Each of the players' names is accompanied by film evidence and the reason for which a disciplinary file is opened.

Until next Wednesday 17 AUF you will have time to present your defenses in writing.

After that day, a period will begin for CONMEBOL to study and resolve whether or not to sanction each of the aforementioned players.

There are no preventive sanctions, so these players are fit to play on Saturday against Canada.

The corresponding penalties must be served in the 2026 Qualifiers matches, starting next September when, during the resumption, Uruguay will host Paraguay and then visit Venezuela.

There may also be a financial fine if deemed appropriate.
 
Heard this morning on SiriusXM FC in regard to the Harry Kane PK:

No one in the world thought it was a PK except the refs, VAR, and Landon Donovan.
I understand the PK, but like many don't agree with it.

What is a defender supposed to do there? Not try to win the ball? Acquiesce meekly and just let the forward shoot without defending?

I haven't watched it over and over, but I recall Kane winning the shot and then kicking the defender with his follow through., not the defender kicking Harry while he was shooting. I don't care if the defenders boot was high...so was Harry's.

Did I miss something else?
Yes. Saka's handball right before the shot that should have made all of this moot anyway :lmao:

As for your statements, no. This is where I am with it and what I posted earlier. The contact didn't change anything, the shot was clean albeit a tad high. Nothing changed except contact on the follow through.
 
Heard this morning on SiriusXM FC in regard to the Harry Kane PK:

No one in the world thought it was a PK except the refs, VAR, and Landon Donovan.
I understand the PK, but like many don't agree with it.

What is a defender supposed to do there? Not try to win the ball? Acquiesce meekly and just let the forward shoot without defending?

I haven't watched it over and over, but I recall Kane winning the shot and then kicking the defender with his follow through., not the defender kicking Harry while he was shooting. I don't care if the defenders boot was high...so was Harry's.

Did I miss something else?

Its funny - because Spurs had the opposite issue this season.

Romero cleared a ball in the box, follow through caught the opposing player on the shin - and it was a red card and Pen against Romero.

Here you get Kane who hits a defender on his follow through - and he get the pen, and the defender gets the card.
 
Heard this morning on SiriusXM FC in regard to the Harry Kane PK:

No one in the world thought it was a PK except the refs, VAR, and Landon Donovan.
I understand the PK, but like many don't agree with it.

What is a defender supposed to do there? Not try to win the ball? Acquiesce meekly and just let the forward shoot without defending?

I haven't watched it over and over, but I recall Kane winning the shot and then kicking the defender with his follow through., not the defender kicking Harry while he was shooting. I don't care if the defenders boot was high...so was Harry's.

Did I miss something else?

Its funny - because Spurs had the opposite issue this season.

Romero cleared a ball in the box, follow through caught the opposing player on the shin - and it was a red card and Pen against Romero.

Here you get Kane who hits a defender on his follow through - and he get the pen, and the defender gets the card.
:goodposting:
 
CONMEBOL has opened an investigation in to the in stands fight after the Uruguay Colombia game.

URUGUAY DEVELOPMENT 🇺🇾

Around 8:00 p.m., AUF received the documents that have the 11 names of the players who participated in the final episodes for CONMEBOL.

The documents contain the names, number in the competition and the cause attributed to them for the purposes of dealing with the sanctions to be determined.

The 11 players are:

02, José María Gimenez
03, Sebastian Caceres
04, Ronald Araujo
06, Rodrigo Bentancur
11, Facundo Pellistri
16, Mathias Olivera
17, Matias Vina
18, Brain Rodriguez
19, Darwin Nuñez
21, Emiliano Martinez
23, Santiago Mele

Each of the players' names is accompanied by film evidence and the reason for which a disciplinary file is opened.

Until next Wednesday 17 AUF you will have time to present your defenses in writing.

After that day, a period will begin for CONMEBOL to study and resolve whether or not to sanction each of the aforementioned players.

There are no preventive sanctions, so these players are fit to play on Saturday against Canada.

The corresponding penalties must be served in the 2026 Qualifiers matches, starting next September when, during the resumption, Uruguay will host Paraguay and then visit Venezuela.

There may also be a financial fine if deemed appropriate.

It is noticeable that FIFA is not involved (at least so far) so I think any worry of players missing club time should be diminished.
 
CONMEBOL has opened an investigation in to the in stands fight after the Uruguay Colombia game.

URUGUAY DEVELOPMENT 🇺🇾

Around 8:00 p.m., AUF received the documents that have the 11 names of the players who participated in the final episodes for CONMEBOL.

The documents contain the names, number in the competition and the cause attributed to them for the purposes of dealing with the sanctions to be determined.

The 11 players are:

02, José María Gimenez
03, Sebastian Caceres
04, Ronald Araujo
06, Rodrigo Bentancur
11, Facundo Pellistri
16, Mathias Olivera
17, Matias Vina
18, Brain Rodriguez
19, Darwin Nuñez
21, Emiliano Martinez
23, Santiago Mele

Each of the players' names is accompanied by film evidence and the reason for which a disciplinary file is opened.

Until next Wednesday 17 AUF you will have time to present your defenses in writing.

After that day, a period will begin for CONMEBOL to study and resolve whether or not to sanction each of the aforementioned players.

There are no preventive sanctions, so these players are fit to play on Saturday against Canada.

The corresponding penalties must be served in the 2026 Qualifiers matches, starting next September when, during the resumption, Uruguay will host Paraguay and then visit Venezuela.

There may also be a financial fine if deemed appropriate.

It is noticeable that FIFA is not involved (at least so far) so I think any worry of players missing club time should be diminished.
Damn, I was really hoping Liverpool would come out with a bunch of justice for Nunez shirts as well
 
Want a ticket for Copa America final at Hard Rock Stadium? Be ready to pay $1,600 or more

It's a perfect storm for Miami: Argentina, Messi, Colombia, Shakira. Over 300k Colombians and 50k Argentinians live in South Florida. The dozens of watch parties look like a better value and more fun. I'm tempted to go to one of them. Here's a sample:

▪ Pilo’s Tequila Garden (158 Northwest 24th St. Wynwood) Colombian watch party with drink specials. Reserve your spot now by dialing 305-204-1452. Must be 21-over. ▪ La Matriarca Colombian restaurant (2255 NW 87 Ave. Doral) Popular Colombian restaurant hosting a watch party for the final, including many drink specials. Go to lamatriarca.com for more information. ▪ Le Chick (310 NW 24 St., Wynwood) Watch all matches through July 14 in a weather-proof lounge, enjoy $5 beers and $7 shots, wood fired wings. Participate in free match day brackets with the chance to win prizes. Table reservations are highly recommended. Please email reservations@lechickmiami.com to book your table in advance. Dress Code: Favorite Team Gear.

▪Veza Sur brewery (55 NW 25 St, Wynwood) Colombian-American brewery hosting a watch party with drink specials.
▪ Fritz and Franz Bierhaus (60 Merrick Way, Coral Gables) One of South Florida’s legendary soccer watching venues just got a new lease, and that’s great news for fans, who can watch all the Copa America matches while sampling beers and loading up on hot pretzels, schnitzels and bratwurst.
▪The Clevelander, (1020 Ocean Dr., Miami Beach) With its partnership with KRÜ, The Clevelander is the Official Parties of Leo Messi & Kun Aguero. The popular Miami Beach venue has been showing all Copa games. For details and schedule, www.clevelander.com/weekly-special-events/events

▪ Lowe’s home improvement store (850 NE 167 St, North Miami Beach). If you have been watching Copa America on TV, surely you have seen the Lowe’s commercials featuring Lionel Messi. The store recently partnered with Messi, Inter Miami and Copa America and will host a watch party for the final. Festivities include a Meet-and-Greet with retired Argentine star Maxi Rodriguez from 7:05 – 7:40 p.m., followed by a Q&A with Rodriguez and announcer Luis Omar Tapia from 7:40 – 7:55 p.m.. Also, food trucks, kids games, photo booth, face painting.
▪Biscayne Bay Brewing Co. (100 NE First Ave, 3rd floor, Miami) Catch all the Copa America action at Biscayne Bay Brewing. This locally-owned brewery located in the heart of Downtown Miami will be showing the Copa America final on their flat-screen TVs surrounding the wrap-around bar and on their massive projector screen. During the games fanatics can enjoy unbeatable specials, including $50 beer towers and $5 beers! Pair your beer with their juicy burgers, tequeños, Margherita flatbread, 1/2 lb bucket of fries and more!Savor their 6-core beers, all $5 during games.
▪ Batch Gastropub Miami (30 SW 12th St, Miami) Reservation Link: https://www.batchgastropub.com/reservations/ Catch the most highly anticipated Copa America and Euro 2024 games at Batch Gastropub in Brickell! Enjoy game day specials, including 5 for $30 mix-and-match 16oz beer buckets, $5 Bud Light drafts, and $5 Barn Burner shots. Savor delicious food offerings such as crispy calamari, truffle fries, and signature Batch wings. Indulge in hearty mains like the Batch burger, short rib birria quesadilla, baby back ribs, and more.
▪ Cathedral Soccer (2728 Northeast 2nd Ave., Miami) Good spot for soccer fans of all nations.
▪ Manolo’s Restaurant (7300 Collins Ave., Miami Beach) Argentine bakery/restaurant is always a favorite gathering spot for fans of La Albiceleste.
▪ Amara at Paraiso (3101 NE 7th Ave, Miami) Join us for the ultimate Copa America soccer viewing parties through July 14th. Catch all the action live on our TV with sound during game times. Enjoy a Monopolio bucket of 5 beers for $25 or a refreshing Fernet & Coke for $12. Enjoy delicious bites like Yucca Tots with Huancaina and Vinaigrette, Provoleta with Tostones, and Bolon a Verde. Don’t miss out on this perfect blend of soccer, great food, and refreshing drinks. More information: https://amaraatparaiso.com/copa-america-viewing/

Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/copa-america/article289850039.html#storylink=cpy
 
CONMEBOL has opened an investigation in to the in stands fight after the Uruguay Colombia game.

URUGUAY DEVELOPMENT 🇺🇾

Around 8:00 p.m., AUF received the documents that have the 11 names of the players who participated in the final episodes for CONMEBOL.

The documents contain the names, number in the competition and the cause attributed to them for the purposes of dealing with the sanctions to be determined.

The 11 players are:

02, José María Gimenez
03, Sebastian Caceres
04, Ronald Araujo
06, Rodrigo Bentancur
11, Facundo Pellistri
16, Mathias Olivera
17, Matias Vina
18, Brain Rodriguez
19, Darwin Nuñez
21, Emiliano Martinez
23, Santiago Mele

Each of the players' names is accompanied by film evidence and the reason for which a disciplinary file is opened.

Until next Wednesday 17 AUF you will have time to present your defenses in writing.

After that day, a period will begin for CONMEBOL to study and resolve whether or not to sanction each of the aforementioned players.

There are no preventive sanctions, so these players are fit to play on Saturday against Canada.

The corresponding penalties must be served in the 2026 Qualifiers matches, starting next September when, during the resumption, Uruguay will host Paraguay and then visit Venezuela.

There may also be a financial fine if deemed appropriate.

It is noticeable that FIFA is not involved (at least so far) so I think any worry of players missing club time should be diminished.

True although possibly a concern for CONMEBOL world cup qualification, which is 6 games into an 18 game schedule. I'm sure they're in no real danger of missing out though - currently sit in second place after 6 games. The top 6 qualify and the 7th has a play-in.
 
Heard this morning on SiriusXM FC in regard to the Harry Kane PK:

No one in the world thought it was a PK except the refs, VAR, and Landon Donovan.
I understand the PK, but like many don't agree with it.

What is a defender supposed to do there? Not try to win the ball? Acquiesce meekly and just let the forward shoot without defending?

I haven't watched it over and over, but I recall Kane winning the shot and then kicking the defender with his follow through., not the defender kicking Harry while he was shooting. I don't care if the defenders boot was high...so was Harry's.

Did I miss something else?

Its funny - because Spurs had the opposite issue this season.

Romero cleared a ball in the box, follow through caught the opposing player on the shin - and it was a red card and Pen against Romero.

Here you get Kane who hits a defender on his follow through - and he get the pen, and the defender gets the card.

Exactly.

If the defender had won the ball but hit Kane the same way on the follow-through they still would have called a foul and PK on the defender. So why is Kane doing exactly the same thing not only not a foul, but actually DRAWS a foul?
 
Has anyone ever been to any of the big club friendlies in the US over the summer? I've kind of ignored them in the past. Do the top players play much? Do either the players or fans care enough to make things exciting?
 
Has anyone ever been to any of the big club friendlies in the US over the summer? I've kind of ignored them in the past. Do the top players play much? Do either the players or fans care enough to make things exciting?
Yes. And, No.

SO, a lot depends on the team, and the timing - many the "big" name players have been playing in the Euros and Copa. This players will typically get 3 weeks of vacation after they are eliminated - so many won't be on any US tours in the next few weeks.

Having said that - these are preseason games, and teams are trying to build fitness in all of their players - and so, end of July and early August expect 1st team players to get at least a half, if not 60 minutes.

These are friendlies - so the players are not at maximum effort - but its not an exhibition kick around, either.


I saw Spurs play Man City in Nashville several years ago - and it was a fun atmosphere with the fans before and during the game.

The tickets tend to be over-priced - but, unless you are planning to travel to Europe to see these players - probably your best chance.
 
Has anyone ever been to any of the big club friendlies in the US over the summer? I've kind of ignored them in the past. Do the top players play much? Do either the players or fans care enough to make things exciting?

It really depends on the club, player and situation who plays, suits up, etc but often a crapshoot. Normally fans in the area will come out to support their club so there's some atmosphere but the matches aren't very exciting imo.
 
Has anyone ever been to any of the big club friendlies in the US over the summer? I've kind of ignored them in the past. Do the top players play much? Do either the players or fans care enough to make things exciting?
Going to see Celtic/Chelsea in South Bend in a couple weeks. Should be fun for the kids, even if the game is meaningless.

Saw Barcelona in Ann Arbor a few years ago. Messi didn't play, but I think most of the other starters did. It was fun, but not necessarily intense or exciting. The players cared as much as I expected them to - they were out on the field and soccer was happening, so may as well try to win. It wasn't like the pro-bowl or anything like that.
 
Has anyone ever been to any of the big club friendlies in the US over the summer? I've kind of ignored them in the past. Do the top players play much? Do either the players or fans care enough to make things exciting?

Not exactly the same but I went to one of the USMNT exhibitions against Man U a few years back and it was great. This was back right when Pulisic was breaking into the lineup so it was really fun to see him in person and Man U played a lot of their first team guys and top subs.
 
Has anyone ever been to any of the big club friendlies in the US over the summer? I've kind of ignored them in the past. Do the top players play much? Do either the players or fans care enough to make things exciting?

Not exactly the same but I went to one of the USMNT exhibitions against Man U a few years back and it was great. This was back right when Pulisic was breaking into the lineup so it was really fun to see him in person and Man U played a lot of their first team guys and top subs.
This game appears to have been erased from my memory for some reason. Can you give me some more info? Where was it played
and anything else you can remember?

I could not find this game listed as a friendly played for the USMNT in any records I saw online. I also checked Man United's preseason schedule for the years Pulisic was young and could not find it listed for them either.
 
Has anyone ever been to any of the big club friendlies in the US over the summer? I've kind of ignored them in the past. Do the top players play much? Do either the players or fans care enough to make things exciting?

Not exactly the same but I went to one of the USMNT exhibitions against Man U a few years back and it was great. This was back right when Pulisic was breaking into the lineup so it was really fun to see him in person and Man U played a lot of their first team guys and top subs.
This game appears to have been erased from my memory for some reason. Can you give me some more info? Where was it played
and anything else you can remember?

I could not find this game listed as a friendly played for the USMNT in any records I saw online. I also checked Man United's preseason schedule for the years Pulisic was young and could not find it listed for them either.

Okay I just pulled up my ticket orders to check and it appears I conflated two matches that we went to in a short span. This was in 2017 in Salt lake City. Apparently it was USMNT vs. Venezuela in June and then RSL vs. Man U a month later. My memory ain't what it used to be apparently seeing Pulisic and seeing the Man U guys were in back to back matches, not the same one.
 
Has anyone ever been to any of the big club friendlies in the US over the summer? I've kind of ignored them in the past. Do the top players play much? Do either the players or fans care enough to make things exciting?
Yes. And, No.

SO, a lot depends on the team, and the timing - many the "big" name players have been playing in the Euros and Copa. This players will typically get 3 weeks of vacation after they are eliminated - so many won't be on any US tours in the next few weeks.

Having said that - these are preseason games, and teams are trying to build fitness in all of their players - and so, end of July and early August expect 1st team players to get at least a half, if not 60 minutes.

These are friendlies - so the players are not at maximum effort - but its not an exhibition kick around, either.


I saw Spurs play Man City in Nashville several years ago - and it was a fun atmosphere with the fans before and during the game.

The tickets tend to be over-priced - but, unless you are planning to travel to Europe to see these players - probably your best chance.
They'll typically roll out the big names because that's who people are paying to see. That doesn't mean they're going all out or that they'll play for very long.

I saw RM vs Roma years ago when it was the Galacticos, including Zidane (wub) and it was amazing. Definitely both teams going for it.. as it was later in the summer just before they were going home.

That was the best one. I've seen tons in-between, including CRO scoring a bunch of goals at Yankee stadium. I also missed Zlat over two games because he was sold from one team to the other and missed both games.

If you're a fan of one team or the other, its a great opportunity to see the players live, and to see a bunch of B and C team guys who might be future stars.
 
Given the outrageous ticket prices, the Copa final tonight should easily be the highest gate revenue of any game played in America, in history.

It would not shock me if it was one the highest ever in soccer history no matter where the game was played.
 
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