2024 Summer of Soccer - Euro's, Copa America, Olympics, WCQing (1 Viewer)

[B Maverick]

They are making it to fine a point. And ignoring the spirit of the Law. I am saying don't draw the lines and just look at it. If he is not clearly off, then its onside.

But this is how it used to be and it sucked.

There was SO much more controversy. Take the controversy around the "he was only an inch offsides" decision people were talking about from the Euros and multiply it by 10 and that's how every major tournament was. It was just "player x got called offsides, but player y didn't and he was more offsides!". Just nothing but arguing about offsides calls for weeks.

A single ref can't even consistently decide what is "clearly" off from one call to another in the same game, much less different refs across different games. So then you have a scenario where any reasonably close offsides call is just a coin flip based on how the ref is arbitrarily feeling about a completely subjective thing, and then it inevitably gets compared to all the other coin flips where the ref decided to flip the coin the other way.

Anything in sports that can be changed from a subjective "how am I feeling about this today" whim to an empirical and binary result should, imo. I'll die on that hill. Same thing for balls/strikes in baseball. Just terrible.

Oh I am all for robot umps calling strikes. Just not a fan of drawing the lines to call an offside. Even is on. Me wearing a size 11 shoe should not be off just because the defender wears a size 6.

But regardless, they can't win. You hate it one way, I hate it another.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

If I were a coach I'd be thinking a lot about how to combine passive (but not really) offside with this new rule to completely break the game.

 

[El Floppo]

If I were a coach I'd be thinking a lot about how to combine passive (but not really) offside with this new rule to completely break the game.

Don't forget our 8' strides

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Don't forget our 8' strides

The important thing is that I knew what I meant.

(Also, because I am a curious nerd... Usain Bolt's stride maxes out at 9.44 feet during race. That's legit insane.)

 

[Zow]

An inch out of bounds is the same as 100 yards out of bounds.

Cross post, but this is not true for my golf game

If you can see it - you can play it...

As somebody whose backyard is right on a golf hole and gets plenty of findable ob balls, I'd prefer you not his off my back patio while my kids are playing in the yard.

Not because I'm worried about you hitting my kids, but because it's cheating.

 

[NewlyRetired]

CONMEBOL officially washes their hands of any culpability in the ticketing fiasco. Here is their middle finger statement to the fans

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GS4OOX6asAErJtD?format=png&name=medium

 

[BeTheMatch]

CONMEBOL officially washes their hands of any culpability in the ticketing fiasco. Here is their middle finger statement to the fans

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GS4OOX6asAErJtD?format=png&name=medium

What a joke

 

[NewlyRetired]

It looks like the USA Network will be showing a bunch of Olympic soccer games this year including all 3 of the US (mens) group games

The US starts play against one of the tournament favorites, and the host, France this Wednesday at 3:00pm eastern. It could be a long game for the yanks...

On Wednesday, USA will be airing 6 soccer games, and also airing the US France game twice as a 7th game (once live and once later in the evening).

 

[Major]

CONMEBOL officially washes their hands of any culpability in the ticketing fiasco. Here is their middle finger statement to the fans

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GS4OOX6asAErJtD?format=png&name=medium

Interesting. What's funny is most of the secondary market tickets were sold through Ticketmaster.

 

[El Floppo]

It looks like the USA Network will be showing a bunch of Olympic soccer games this year including all 3 of the US (mens) group games

The US starts play against one of the tournament favorites, and the host, France this Wednesday at 3:00pm eastern. It could be a long game for the yanks...

On Wednesday, USA will be airing 6 soccer games, and also airing the US France game twice as a 7th game (once live and once later in the evening).

Is USA played on a sibling network? Will my last week of free Fubo work?

 

[NewlyRetired]

It looks like the USA Network will be showing a bunch of Olympic soccer games this year including all 3 of the US (mens) group games

The US starts play against one of the tournament favorites, and the host, France this Wednesday at 3:00pm eastern. It could be a long game for the yanks...

On Wednesday, USA will be airing 6 soccer games, and also airing the US France game twice as a 7th game (once live and once later in the evening).

Is USA played on a sibling network? Will my last week of free Fubo work?

It is also on Telemundo in case you get that.

I don't know what channels FUBO gets.

 

[Eephus]

It looks like the USA Network will be showing a bunch of Olympic soccer games this year including all 3 of the US (mens) group games

The US starts play against one of the tournament favorites, and the host, France this Wednesday at 3:00pm eastern. It could be a long game for the yanks...

On Wednesday, USA will be airing 6 soccer games, and also airing the US France game twice as a 7th game (once live and once later in the evening).

Is USA played on a sibling network? Will my last week of free Fubo work?

It is also on Telemundo in case you get that.

I don't know what channels FUBO gets.

They're also being shown on Peacock

 

[B Maverick]

And now the European club teams are descending on the US for preseason fixtures as the Summer of Soccer continues!

 

[Eephus]

And now the European club teams are descending on the US for preseason fixtures as the Summer of Soccer continues!

$ummer of $occer

 

[NewlyRetired]

Somewhere Bill Belichick is smiling

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Meg Linehan

@itsmeglinehan

Group A is for... Alleged Spying Attempt?

The Canadian Olympic Committee apologized after a "non-accredited" staffer was detained by police for flying a drone over New Zealand's training.

COC is discussing next steps w/ IOC, Canada Soccer & FIFA.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Somewhere Bill Belichick is smiling

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Meg Linehan
@itsmeglinehan

Group A is for... Alleged Spying Attempt?

The Canadian Olympic Committee apologized after a "non-accredited" staffer was detained by police for flying a drone over New Zealand's training.

COC is discussing next steps w/ IOC, Canada Soccer & FIFA.

ESPN FC
@ESPNFC


New Zealand have lodged a formal complaint to the IOC, alleging that a Canadian soccer "support staff member" flew a drone over their training session in Saint-Étienne on Monday.

Head coach Bev Priestman has removed herself from coaching the team against New Zealand in Group A on Thursday

 

[NewlyRetired]

Oh dear...

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Meg Linehan

@itsmeglinehan

Turns out it wasn't just one drone incident from Canada Soccer... it was two. An analyst and an assistant coach have been sent home, and Bev Priestman will not coach tomorrow's opener against the Ferns

 

[NewlyRetired]

Sweet opening goal for Morocco against Argie

Argentina 0 - [1] Morocco - Soufiane Rahimi 45+3'

Video Argentina 0 - [1] Morocco - Soufiane Rahimi 45+3' was uploaded to Streamin.me on Jul 24, 2024.

streamin.me

 

[NewlyRetired]

Coming into the summer, our common belief was that there were very few, if any, openings on the senior roster for other players in the near term for the US.

But with the poor showing in the Copa coupled with GGG being sacked, I wonder if the Olympics can serve as a bit of a showcase audition for some one to push their way into the team, depending on the new coaches needs....

 

[NewlyRetired]

was there a long injury in the Argie Morocco game?

Argie just leveled the game............................in the 107th minute (injury time)................

 

[El Floppo]

16 mins?!!!!!!!!!!

 

[El Floppo]

2 mins in the first half.
16 mins in the 2nd?!!!!!!!?

 

[NewlyRetired]

was there a long injury in the Argie Morocco game?

Argie just leveled the game............................in the 107th minute (injury time)................

oh my god what a crazy goal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Argentina [2] - 2 Morocco - Cristian Medina header 90+16'

Video Argentina [2] - 2 Morocco - Cristian Medina header 90+16' was uploaded to Streamin.me on Jul 24, 2024.

streamin.me

 

[Yo Mama]

16 mins?!!!!!!!!!!

Wow, Arg needed every second of that time.

 

[El Floppo]

Morocco absolutely got ****ed.

 

[B Maverick]

2 mins in the first half.
16 mins in the 2nd?!!!!!!!?

Have to give Argie time to level.

 

[El Floppo]

Fyi... No long stoppage. 2 goals, a couple yellows. Not much different than the 1st half... Where there were TWO minutes of stoppage time.

 

[El Floppo]

The announcers saw the time and assumed 5. We're completely flummoxed by 15, assuming it was an error.

 

[El Floppo]

And the ref Arg past the 15 allotted minutes.

 

[El Floppo]

The BS just continues on...

 

[NewlyRetired]

It is still so depressing most fans can't see how broken allowing the ref to keep his own time is. There is so much room for corruption or incompetence.

 

[El Floppo]

It is still so depressing most fans can't see how broken allowing the ref to keep his own time is. There is so much room for corruption or incompetence.

And if it was some kind of edict about "true played time" or whatever like what they did in the last WC- htf is it 2 vs 16?

 

[NewlyRetired]

It is still so depressing most fans can't see how broken allowing the ref to keep his own time is. There is so much room for corruption or incompetence.

And if it was some kind of edict about "true played time" or whatever like what they did in the last WC- htf is it 2 vs 16?

the sport can't get out of its own way at times. If you step back, it is almost incredible that it became the worlds dominant sport.

 

[zoobird]

It is still so depressing most fans can't see how broken allowing the ref to keep his own time is. There is so much room for corruption or incompetence.

Even describing it as "keep his own time" is giving way more credit than the current process deserves. It's more like "make some !@#$% up, without even trying to make it seem plausible".

 

[El Floppo]

It is still so depressing most fans can't see how broken allowing the ref to keep his own time is. There is so much room for corruption or incompetence.

And if it was some kind of edict about "true played time" or whatever like what they did in the last WC- htf is it 2 vs 16?

the sport can't get out of its own way at times. If you step back, it is almost incredible that it became the worlds dominant sport.

I'm hoping there's some kind of explanation. Only time over ever seen 15+ minutes is when there's a catastrophic injury requiring extensive on-field treatment. That didn't happen.

And again... If it's like the last WC, there'd never be 2 mins at the 1st half and 15+ for the second. 8 and 9... Ok. But it's so inconsistent, it tells me something else is happening.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Maybe they were using metric time?

-QG

 

[QuizGuy66]

Somewhere Bill Belichick is smiling

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Meg Linehan

@itsmeglinehan

Group A is for... Alleged Spying Attempt?

The Canadian Olympic Committee apologized after a "non-accredited" staffer was detained by police for flying a drone over New Zealand's training.

COC is discussing next steps w/ IOC, Canada Soccer & FIFA.

What a COC move

-QG

 

[NewlyRetired]

It is still so depressing most fans can't see how broken allowing the ref to keep his own time is. There is so much room for corruption or incompetence.

Even describing it as "keep his own time" is giving way more credit than the current process deserves. It's more like "make some !@#$% up, without even trying to make it seem plausible".

and normally it is broken in the other direction where the ref adds way too little injury time.

I wish we could find a way that was more consistent. I actually liked how FIFA did it in the WC. It not only felt consistent but it felt "right". But not a single league or federation in the world followed that lead.

I guess the only way to unify this stuff is through rule changes but we already know how slow that process is.

 

[Snoopy]

Maybe they were using metric time?

-QG

From the French Revolutionary Clock.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

It is still so depressing most fans can't see how broken allowing the ref to keep his own time is. There is so much room for corruption or incompetence.

 

[NewlyRetired]

The other 2 teams in the US group are playing each other right now, New Zealand and Guinea.

NZ capitalizes on a WPIOOTBGW

Video - 0a53a259

Video was uploaded to Streamin.me on Jul 24, 2024.

streamin.me

 

[Zow]

It is still so depressing most fans can't see how broken allowing the ref to keep his own time is. There is so much room for corruption or incompetence.

As a casual fan, this is my biggest issue (way bigger than the flopping, offsides, etc.). It seems like such an easy fix - just show us the damn time like every other sport!

 

[NewlyRetired]

It is still so depressing most fans can't see how broken allowing the ref to keep his own time is. There is so much room for corruption or incompetence.

As a casual fan, this is my biggest issue (way bigger than the flopping, offsides, etc.). It seems like such an easy fix - just show us the damn time like every other sport!

it does seem like an easy fix until you factor in that probably 3-4 billion people on the planet disagree.

 

[NewlyRetired]

This fricken sport

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Nico Cantor
https://x.com/Nicocantor1
@Nicocantor1

Just now from the Olympic website. Not only is the game “Suspended” but there’s a potential offside still being reviewed. Argentine TV reports that the players have “no idea” if the game is over

 

[Zow]

It is still so depressing most fans can't see how broken allowing the ref to keep his own time is. There is so much room for corruption or incompetence.

As a casual fan, this is my biggest issue (way bigger than the flopping, offsides, etc.). It seems like such an easy fix - just show us the damn time like every other sport!

it does seem like an easy fix until you factor in that probably 3-4 billion people on the planet disagree.

Yeah, well, Nickelback has a strong following, Trump got elected, somehow "Gagnam Style" became a thing...

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Just now from the Olympic website. Not only is the game “Suspended” but there’s a potential offside still being reviewed. Argentine TV reports that the players have “no idea” if the game is over

Would be beyond awesome if the VAR officials went "NOT ON MY WATCH" and found an offside that wasn't there.

 

[NewlyRetired]

It is still so depressing most fans can't see how broken allowing the ref to keep his own time is. There is so much room for corruption or incompetence.

As a casual fan, this is my biggest issue (way bigger than the flopping, offsides, etc.). It seems like such an easy fix - just show us the damn time like every other sport!

it does seem like an easy fix until you factor in that probably 3-4 billion people on the planet disagree.

Yeah, well, Nickelback has a strong following, Trump got elected, somehow "Gagnam Style" became a thing...

I want it changed.

I want clear stoppages in the game clock for injuries, goals, subs, free kicks and any time the ball goes out of bounds. I want games to end exactly at 90 minutes. I want extremely explicit laws that prevent any league or federation trying to exploit this for commercial interruption of the games.

This would remove corruption, remove incompetence, and remove time wasting (a huge issue) from the sport. You lose the feeling of not knowing when the game will end (which a lot of soccer fans love)

I am in the vast vast vast vast minority with my opinions on this.

 

[Zow]

I want it changed.

I want clear stoppages in the game clock for injuries, goals, subs, free kicks and any time the ball goes out of bounds. I want games to end exactly at 90 minutes. I want extremely explicit laws that prevent any league or federation trying to exploit this for commercial interruption of the games.

This would remove corruption, remove incompetence, and remove time wasting (a huge issue) from the sport. You lose the feeling of not knowing when the game will end (which a lot of soccer fans love)

I am in the vast vast vast vast minority with my opinions on this.

I genuinely don't get the bold.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Just now from the Olympic website. Not only is the game “Suspended” but there’s a potential offside still being reviewed. Argentine TV reports that the players have “no idea” if the game is over

Would be beyond awesome if the VAR officials went "NOT ON MY WATCH" and found an offside that wasn't there.

you know, rewatching it now and pausing it, I think the guy who headed the ball that went off the cross bar was offside..............

 

[QuizGuy66]

I would think that the global opinion is that if you ban corruption you are banning soccer.

-QG