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2024 Summer of Soccer - Euro's, Copa America, Olympics, WCQing (11 Viewers)
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NewlyRetired
Footballguy
And it so on brand that no one understands the yellow card rule in the Copa 
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
I can already guess that there was family involved in the stands
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
As a Liverpool fan, I have a bad feeling about which Uruguayan player was in the stands throwing fists. There was definitely a ponytail involved.
ETA: Yeah, Twitter has the goods. It's Nunez. Look for the guy in the sports performance tank. He straight drilled someone. And went after another one. He may be sitting for a long time.
ETA: Yeah, Twitter has the goods. It's Nunez. Look for the guy in the sports performance tank. He straight drilled someone. And went after another one. He may be sitting for a long time.
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Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Nunez and at least one or two other Uruguayan players in the stands throwing hands.
The Gator
Footballguy
Oh I agree there. They've messed up most of the stoppage time in this tournament, but this ref was great tonight. Clone him please
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NewlyRetired
Footballguy
I am just guessing but I think Colombian fans got mixed up with some of the Uruguayan players families in the stands and the players jumped in the stands and started throwing ala the Malice in the Palace or even this Bruins classic
Boston Bruins Go Into The Stands In 1979
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Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
The Gator
Footballguy
Malice at the Palace 2.0?
The Gator
Footballguy
Jinx
Major
Footballguy
Crazy to see that at an international soccer match of this magnitude but it is Copa
The Gator
Footballguy
First time watching South American teams?
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Totally unconfirmed, but sounds like maybe Colombian fans were harassing the families of the Uruguayan players.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
how does this work?
I don't think CONMEBOL has any ability to suspend Nunez from club soccer. They can certainly suspend him for qualifying though.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
I assumed it was tongue in cheek.First time watching South American teams?
If not, I suggest he go down an unending youtube rabbit hole
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
I mentioned that above. It makes the most sense for what happened.
Major
Footballguy
First time watching South American teams?
Haha, too quick for my edit where I further elaborated
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Wasn't Suarez suspended from everything on Planet Earth after he bit Chiellini? That's what I was thinking of as precedent.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
This is where it gets confusing to me.
That bite was in the WC which was a FIFA tournament and FIFA has the ability to ban across competitions and regions. I don't think CONMEBOL has that ability unless FIFA some how gets involved but I don't ever remember that happening in a non FIFA specific event.
We will see soon though.
Zow
Footballguy
Landon Donovan?
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
El Floppo
Footballguy
Fifa can't step in? I'd imagine some hefty punishments about to come down the pipe.
Zow
Footballguy
Ah, didn’t know that. I remember in 2010 thinking this guy had to be starting on some EPL team at least and was shocked he wasn’t. Seemed like a top 15 player in the world to me.
I don’t follow MLS so I’m glad to hear he had a great career there.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
He probably never cracked a top 100 player in the world level but he was still probably the best the US has ever had internationally along with Pulisic and Dempsey.
Speaking of Pulisic, a lot of casual fans don't know this but he experienced many of the same issues as Landon did in Germany. He wanted to give up and come home as he hated it there.
Unlike Landon, Pulisic had an incredible support system as his dad took Pulisic's cousin Will (who was a goal keeper) and moved to Dortmund to live with Christian to help him get by until he found his footing. Christian's mom stayed at home with the rest of his family. It took a massive sacrifice to get him where he needed to be else he would have likely followed the identical path Landon did and come home to play for an MLS team.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
I honestly don't know what the rules are. I know for sure this is a CONMEBOL event and they run the entire thing with almost no FIFA oversite outside of getting on the FIFA international calendar.
UEFA and CONMEBOL hate FIFA with a passion (unless there is corruption to be done then every one gets along great).
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Desert_Power
Footballguy
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
As we expected
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Men in Blazers
@MenInBlazers
Uruguay captain Jose Maria Gimenez said the players were concerned for their family members in the stands. "It was a disaster; there was no police and we had to defend our families," he said. "This is the fault of two or three people who had a few too many drinks."
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Men in Blazers
@MenInBlazers
Uruguay captain Jose Maria Gimenez said the players were concerned for their family members in the stands. "It was a disaster; there was no police and we had to defend our families," he said. "This is the fault of two or three people who had a few too many drinks."
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
classic Copa vibes https://x.com/MenInBlazers/status/1811031840918065653
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Police definitely did show up to help but I never saw any of the stadium security doing anything. In a couple of videos you can see them just watching the brawl while someone runs into the pitch behind them.
TennesseeJed
Footballguy
3C's
Footballguy
Could be bad for Bentacur. https://www.reddit.com/r/coys/comments/1e0hvm4/renzo_bentacur_threw_glass_bottle_and_hit/
Desert_Power
Footballguy
That aim is about on par with Uruguay's finishing last night.
TennesseeJed
Footballguy
I don't think it was a glass bottle.
Looked more like ice coming out of a cup.
Still not good - but its not as bad as killing a man with a trident.
Major
Footballguy
No reason to separate fans into sections because we're in Murica!!! Also ticket revenue > safety. I feel for those Uruguay fans who must have been outnumbered 20-1. Copa 2024 has been an interesting case study on what not to do when running a soccer tournament.
TennesseeJed
Footballguy
Oh, I don't know - I imagine there are a few organizers who are quite pleased with the amount of money they made from the tournament...
3C's
Footballguy
Speculation is frozen water/ice in a plastic bottle. Further down there's a post with a pic of the bloodied guy he hit
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Was waiting to see a video of the chair surface: https://x.com/ivanopanetti/status/1811334220997902749?s=46&t=zxHPtBlfV1luZyPxHae-Zg
Major
Footballguy
No doubt. I'm sure investors and organizers love the dynamic ticket pricing aspect. I'm primarily talking from a soccer fan's perspective with the quality of the matches presented - terrible pitches, refs, camera angles, no Goal Line VAR, no extra time, etc etc etc.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Some David Tepper inspired behavior last night too: https://x.com/barras_latam/status/1811236670924034125?s=46&t=zxHPtBlfV1luZyPxHae-Zg
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
WTF?! Imperial Rome lives.
⚡DEADHEAD⚡
Footballguy
At the Brazil v. Colombia game at Levi's, I was surprised to see the amount of alcohol available before and after the game on the sidewalks, in the parking lot, etc. You couldn't walk 20 feet before hitting another cooler, often with premade cocktails for sale, never mind beer.
I got no issue with that really, but pack 70,000 into a stadium where XX,000 are hammered 20-something tough-guy-ish dudes and you may have a problem. We did. I saw 4 legit fights break out 10 minutes into the game in my section alone. Colombia vs. Colombia fans. People with kids left the area. It was lawless, as if I were watching in South America somewhere. Nobody sat and people repositioned themselves in the seat rows as if it was general admission. Seat numbers didn't matter. The cops finally came and that stopped the fighting, but didn't put an end to the stupid behavior or disregard for others in the area. Not a great experience for my son, which is what bothers me most.
More security and a lower threshold for removal for public drunkenness. Otherwise no thank you.
I got no issue with that really, but pack 70,000 into a stadium where XX,000 are hammered 20-something tough-guy-ish dudes and you may have a problem. We did. I saw 4 legit fights break out 10 minutes into the game in my section alone. Colombia vs. Colombia fans. People with kids left the area. It was lawless, as if I were watching in South America somewhere. Nobody sat and people repositioned themselves in the seat rows as if it was general admission. Seat numbers didn't matter. The cops finally came and that stopped the fighting, but didn't put an end to the stupid behavior or disregard for others in the area. Not a great experience for my son, which is what bothers me most.
More security and a lower threshold for removal for public drunkenness. Otherwise no thank you.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Dynamic pricing means he will probably be able to afford a second one.
B Maverick
Footballguy
Keep in mind that Suarez's bite on Chiellini was like the 3rd time he bit someone. And if I recall, it was after his incident with Evra. 3 bites and you are out.
EPL banned Cantona for 9 months for his kung fun kick of the fan.
Not sure either are the same here, esp with the family protection issue.
EPL banned Cantona for 9 months for his kung fun kick of the fan.
Not sure either are the same here, esp with the family protection issue.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
The best atmosphere I've ever seen at a game was Colombia v Chile in Chicago at the Copa Centenario. Both teams had fantastic fans having a blast the entire time and that included a 2+ hour long game suspension at half time due to a storm, during which Solider Field kept the bars open the entire time.
For me Colombia has been the best and most entertaining team at this tournament by far and I'm hoping they stomp Argentina and give the Colombian fans a huge win and a great experience.
For me Colombia has been the best and most entertaining team at this tournament by far and I'm hoping they stomp Argentina and give the Colombian fans a huge win and a great experience.
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