The whole NFL players in NBA debate going on... (1 Viewer)

[CletiusMaximus]

lol at Wembanyama playing football, at any level. He would join that long list of successful 7-4 200 lb football stars.

 

[-OZ-]

As Brian Scalabrine once said, "I'm closer to LeBron James than you are to me".

The skill level in the NBA is insane, especially now that the sport is global.

Yes.
And yet the NBA is no closer to being watchable.

 

[Fat Nick]

Victor Wembanyama would be a red zone cheat code with the NFL rules. He has enough quickness and athleticism to just get off the line and all you need to do is just throw it high in his vicinity.

...For one play...until someone dives at his knees and the sheer leverage of the length of your legs when you are 7' plus works against you and your knees get ripped to shreds.

There’s NFL rules against that. Any NFL athlete that dives at another players knees with the intention of hurting would shred ligaments regularly.

I get it re. the rules - there's rules about hitting QB's high too, but it still happens, and sometimes they get injured. I'm saying with his frame, intentional or not, he's gonna get hurt in a contact sport. Also - I don't think there are many teams who would just stand there and let the guy catch jump balls over and over and rack up a near 100% RZ efficiency and not do something about it.

I don't disagree with you at all that in a hypothetical non-injury world, he'd be a monster - and nearly unstoppable in the red zone...Imagine him playing volleyball or even tennis....if he got to the net and could get a racket on the ball, he'd be really hard to get by.

 

[Pipes]

Why are we talking about Wemby? That toothpick would get snapped in half. Ant would be the guy who would be unstoppable in the NFL. 6"4 with his athleticism. Football was his 1st love until he broke his ankle. I do agree there are more NBA guys that would be successful in the NFL rather than the other way around.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

All the NFL meatheads argument automatically go to the “toughness” factor and how NBA players couldn’t handle the hits and violence of the NFL game. I think if 175lb string bean Devonta Smith can handle it, the NBA players will be just fine.

“Meatheads” or not, not everyone is comfortable with being physically dominated. To just pretend like it isn’t a major obstacle is is ridiculous.

Im not even talking about Oklahoma drills - Im talking just another grown man - manhandling you like a rag doll or quite literally tossing you around.

There are few people who are about that life.

 

[the moops]

NFL you can get away with having a limited elite skill set. You don’t have to play defense.

Do any NBA players play defense lol?

Did you watch the Wolves-Nuggets game 2?

Or any playoff game? Some seem to be confusing incredible shot makers with teams not playing defense

 

[offdee]

lol at Wembanyama playing football, at any level. He would join that long list of successful 7-4 200 lb football stars.

Because there’s been so many 7’4” guys with his quick twitch and athleticism ever born to compare to right? And if you’re that tall and athletic why would you not devote your life to basketball and that payday? Silly argument.

 

[offdee]

While I think a guy like Wemby would struggle to get off the line to be a successful specialist

For fun, let’s dive into this further. I really disagree here.

Wemby is regularly crossing up elite athletes with tremendous footwork and balance in the NBA. With the NFL rules you can only jam them off the line for 5 yds and what exactly are these 5’10” DBs jamming…Wemby’s moving thighs?!? Wemby’s chest will be at the DBs head level….literally at their head level.

And once he is off the line, every stride he takes is equivalent to about 3 strides of an average NFL DB. He’d be on his back immediately and Wendy would just need to box out and reach up. Impossible to defend.

If skinny guys like Devonte Smith can use footwork, hand techniques, etc to get off the line than Wemby can surely do the same with a couple days of coaching. Wemby is not far off as being as quick twitch as a Devonte Smith type which is ridiculous to think about.

Defenses probably wouldn't put a 5'10" guy on him. It's one thing to use your footwork to cross up a guy who isn't allowed to touch you and quite another to use it against someone who is way stronger than you and who is allowed to push you and hit you. A defender really just needs to disrupt him long enough for the DL to get pressure. That's only a couple seconds.

Have you seen 7’1” Joel Embiid stand next to Wemby? Embiid actually looks small. Who in the NFL would you put on Wemby that could even be tall enough to be able to jam him in the chest and have enough leverage with their arms that high to not let him get past 5 yds in short order? They’d have to hold him around the waist and it would get called constantly.

Like would you put Myles Garrett on him out wide? Even then he’d still literally be a foot taller than Garrett. Not to mention Wemby’s 8 foot wingspan and ridiculous reach. Wemby could have enough technique and lock his arms out to not allow a defender to get into his body to jam easily and get that leverage needed to completely hault him before 5 yards.

The other thing that any smart OC would do would be to always have Wemby in motion on the snap so any defender couldn’t have a still Wemby to muscle around. What the Dolphins do with Tyreek.

I'm generally with your perspective in this thread, but IMO your stance on Wemby here is a bit extreme. If you dropped Wemby into the NFL with "2 days of coaching" and tried to line him up as a WR/TE against my defense, I would put a LB on him to jam him and put him on his back. Every team has linebackers who are much stronger than Wemby, and, importantly, know how to use their hands and strength for football leverage. I don't think Wemby would get 5 yards off the line of scrimmage.

I also think it is unlikely he could sustain the type of hits he would take regularly every time he is targeted. He is too thin. He actually would present something NFL defenders never see nowadays -- a huge legal target area between the head and knees. They would have a field day hammering him legally, and he would probably break.

Lol at comparing Wemby's ability to go in motion to avoid a jam to Tyreek Hill's ability.

If he had a couple years of coaching, and especially if he could build some strength and thickness, maybe it could be different, but that doesn't seem to be your premise here.

The Wemby discussion is for sure extreme just for entertainment purposes and the what ifs. Ultimately I don’t disagree with what you’re saying here.

Now would you feel the same way if it was Giannis?

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

For those who think this would go well for the NBA guys….

Who is your starting LT and Center? Let’s line em up.

 

[Zow]

For those who think this would go well for the NBA guys….

Who is your starting LT and Center? Let’s line em up.

DJ Burns when he declares for the NBA draft.*


*I don't actually think this would go well for the NBA guys.

 

[Gally]

For those who think this would go well for the NBA guys….

Who is your starting LT and Center? Let’s line em up.

I don't think it is being argued that you could make a complete NFL team out of NBA players. Just that NBA players have a skill set/size/athleticism combo that would translate to the NFL for certain positions.

 

[TLEF316]

For those who think this would go well for the NBA guys….

Who is your starting LT and Center? Let’s line em up.

Nobody is saying there are guys in the nba that could play offensive line. (Or quarterback....or running back....or basically any position other than tall pass catcher)

 

[offdee]

For those who think this would go well for the NBA guys….

Who is your starting LT and Center? Let’s line em up.

That's not what the debate is.

 

[offdee]

Ant would be the guy who would be unstoppable in the NFL. 6"4 with his athleticism. Football was his 1st love until he broke his ankle

Yep, he for sure would be great in the NFL, but we already know what he would be....he's basically DK Metcalf and AJ Brown.

 

[wlwiles]

Who is Ant? I'm with @-OZ- and don't watch the NBA. I am generally aware of who the big name players are but I honestly don't know who Ant is

 

[CletiusMaximus]

lol at Wembanyama playing football, at any level. He would join that long list of successful 7-4 200 lb football stars.

Because there’s been so many 7’4” guys with his quick twitch and athleticism ever born to compare to right? And if you’re that tall and athletic why would you not devote your life to basketball and that payday? Silly argument.

Agree the whole thing is silly. Believe me, as a soccer and rugby fan I am well used to idiotic claims that if only Lebron or Lamar would change sports they would instantly step onto the world's biggest stages and transform the sport in the US. Of course elite athletes with the right body-type could be competitive at the highest (professional) level in theory if given years of training, as Bo and Deion showed. Elite athletes who played two sports into college like Danny Ainge? Sure. But no NBA player who's never stepped on a football field (like, presumably, Wemby) could strap on a helmet tomorrow and be competitive even on a mid-level college team.

 

[-OZ-]

Who is Ant? I'm with @-OZ- and don't watch the NBA. I am generally aware of who the big name players are but I honestly don't know who Ant is

Paul Rudd?

 

[Zigg]

People grossly overestimate how athletic football players are. They are physical freaks, but football requires very little skill. Be big, be fast, be strong, do your assignment.

We have examples of mediocre college basketball players becoming great NFL players and even hall of famers. Has a college football player sniffed success in any other sport. DK is an afterthought sprinter and it blows peoples minds.

Every four years we hear how NFL players would take over soccer if they wanted to. However, I have no doubt Haaland and Mbappe could be elite WRs with a little effort. Eye/foot is a different beast. Those two have speed, size and agility that every single NFL team would be lined up to sign them tomorrow, along with dozens, hundreds of others if they made themselves available.

I love the NFL, but there’s a lot more to being an athlete than strength and straight line speed. Football players are way down the athlete totem pole(should be way up, since the bottom of a totem is where the strongest goes, but you get my point. Even though you probably don’t agree with it.).

 

[Gally]

Has a college football player sniffed success in any other sport.

There are a few college football players that went to baseball with some success

 

[offdee]

Has a college football player sniffed success in any other sport.

Heisman Trophy winner Charlie Ward played 11 seasons in the NBA.

 

[Zow]

Has a college football player sniffed success in any other sport.

Heisman Trophy winner Charlie Ward played 11 seasons in the NBA.

Yeah he's who I keep thinking about in this thread.

Allen Iverson was a top-level HS QB I believe. Dave Winfield was drafted in three major sports including football and basketball. Jackie Robinson lettered in all four sports in college.

Plus, you know, Jim Thorpe was basically great at everything (he played both professional football and basketball).

 

[offdee]

(Charlie Ward) Yeah he's who I keep thinking about in this thread.

But this also illustrates how ridiculous the concept of 30 active NFL players could play in the NBA right now, when really only one NFL caliber player has actually ever done it.

If you gave any high level athlete the choice of playing in the NBA for 20 yrs at the salary they make versus in the NFL for 10 yrs at the much lower avg salary and the havoc it does to their body, they would move to the NBA in a heartbeat. The reality is the don't make that move, because they aren't good enough to do it.

 

[Bri]

An NBA player's understanding of the importance of the first step and two after would certainly make them capable of playing WR or CB- every single one- for a few plays.

There's no doubt every single football player could play NBA (playoff) defense and most be excellent at boxing out and grabbing boards.

Many NFL players would be outstanding filling a break in the NBA. That they could care less if they get hit would make them so tough to stop.

NBA players with some speed could probably play the outfielder free safety role. Could they tackle a RB one on one? Leans towards not but most NFL free safeties are totally overrated at one on one tackling as shown in every offensive highlight.

 

[Snoopy]

Jimmy Graham had only 1 year of college football experience and 4 years of basketball experience at the U.

 

[Bri]

I got to play against LT and have also played against many NBA players. There's no doubt he'd have been in the NBA hall of fame- as Michael Jordan and many others have said. He's curiously absent from that ESPN Jordan special and an absolutely fascinating read if you feel like googling. He could jump way higher than you'd imagine. How he chased QBs with freakish speed....how the heck did he get back on D so fast? He gets right up in ya, bumping you on D, he's got fast hands and is insanely good at D. He has a pretty jump shot, plenty of moves, and you're lying if you say you'd try and block a dunk of his. He completely dominates just like football.

I've heard wonderful things of Daryl Strawberry.

The Allen Iverson football videos look like he was blessed with Welker's ability to shake off any hit- tiny as he may seem, there's a good number of videos to make ya say wow.

Randy Moss played with Jason Williams for a long time. They went to HS together and would get together during each guy's pro career. Jason says Randy could leap up and grab rebounds outta nowhere and slam em in. I don't doubt it.

Calvin Johnson supposedly wasn't supposed to play (in contract) but would and...idk but same as Moss- I don't doubt those hands and ups

 

[Bri]

Idk today's city world, living in rural Oklahoma, but for decades- if you lived in a city, you played basketball. There's a million societal or safety reasons but also because it's fun.

If the court could be seen from mom's window, this is an absolute lock.

In suburbs, if you're a special athlete, you would often play football.

Are kids on their phones too much nowadays that this isn't true anymore? All the "play more than one sport" discussion?
I'm really surprised how many people doubt some could crossover. It would be a select elite group but unless things have changed it's just life in America to me

 

[ChicoCat]

I do think there's a mindset to football that NBA players probably wouldn't have....but I do think there's a prerequisite body archetype to the NBA (the Allen Iverson and Spud Webbs aside) that an NFL player probably doesn't have.

I call it a wash. Yeah..there's 30 NBA players who could make an NFL roster.....but I don't think many of them are doing much.

 

[offdee]

There's no doubt every single football player could play NBA (playoff) defense and most be excellent at boxing out and grabbing boards.

You sure there Clark? Once your internalize that most NFL players are shorter than Stephen Curry (6’3”) may make you reconsider this take.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Who is Ant? I'm with @-OZ- and don't watch the NBA. I am generally aware of who the big name players are but I honestly don't know who Ant is

Anthony Edwards

 

[Long Ball Larry]

As Brian Scalabrine once said, "I'm closer to LeBron James than you are to me".

The skill level in the NBA is insane, especially now that the sport is global.

Sam Darnold could say the same thing about him and Mahomes too.

Staying in Charlotte and Devin Funchess could say that about Jerry Rice or Justin Jefferson, etc.

I played HS football but didn’t play college and I remember watching a stud QB at my kids local HS and the dude threw beautiful bombs that I’d never seen a HS QB throw before because I grew up in CT. That kid was on the level of Sam Howell in HS, recruited by Tennessee and Oklahoma. He was Mayfield and Murray’s backup. He never got close to being drafted or being considered to be drafted. The skill level in the NFL isn’t a joke. I think you guys are downplaying the NFL athletes by a lot. Sure, Wemby is tall enough to win jump balls in the end zone, if he can beat press coverage, but it’s a lot easier for him to dunk a ball or from close enough in or block a shot than it would be for him to make a tackle on Tyreke Hill or run a precise route and catch a 50 yard bomb.

Most of the ridiculous athletes in the NBA and NFL have been one sport for so long that this discussion is almost silly. If it was so easy for LeBron to be a pro bowl TE, how come there aren’t a lot of almost made the NBA guys becoming NFL players? Sure, Antonio Gates, Julius Peppers and Charlie Ward are interesting studies but there isn’t a pipeline of NBA stud athletes who weren’t good enough to play in the NBA but made NFL rosters.

Not sure if you intentionally mentioned Funchess, but in fact he just signed with a professional basketball team in South America.

 

[Bri]

There's no doubt every single football player could play NBA (playoff) defense and most be excellent at boxing out and grabbing boards.

You sure there Clark? Once your internalize that most NFL players are shorter than Stephen Curry (6’3”) may make you reconsider this take.

I would probably have a different take if it were top college basketball defense.

 

[belljr]

first ive heard of this so called debate wgaf

 

[TakiToki]

I think it's fair to say that NBA players would fare best in other American sports in today's world.

They're paid the most, and most athletes prefer basketball to football. I remember Barry Switzer saying something like football players play pick-up basketball a helluva lot more than basketball players play pick-up football. So, a multi-sport high school star is likely going to wind up focusing on basketball.

Things also evolve over time. A kid that would have been boxer in the '60s and '70s became a running back in the '80s and '90s. Now he's an edge rusher, or maybe even an NBA wing.

Maybe volleyball will become the biggest sport in the world in some day, and you'll see setters like Chris Paul, hitters like Kevin Durant and diggers like Dennis Rodman.

 

[Kanil]

With the difference in pay scale, it's almost certain that the large majority who could play in either league would play in the NBA. Add in the fact that at least 3x the amount of players suit up for the NFL each week and it's has to be a very large difference in favor of NBA to NFL vs the opposite.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Davante Adams and maxx Crosby have some sick dunk videos out there. That’s all i got as a raider fan. I suspect there’s a couple players on every team like them.

The Adams video is old.

 

[offdee]

Davante Adams and maxx Crosby have some sick dunk videos out there. That’s all i got as a raider fan. I suspect there’s a couple players on every team like them.

The Adams video is old.

All you need to do to play in the NBA is able to do some windmill dunks

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Davante Adams and maxx Crosby have some sick dunk videos out there. That’s all i got as a raider fan. I suspect there’s a couple players on every team like them.

The Adams video is old.

All you need to do to play in the NBA is able to do some windmill dunks

Correct.

 

[the moops]

There's no doubt every single football player could play NBA (playoff) defense

There is no doubt this post is completely false. Of course there are some nfl players that could play excellent NBA defense, but as @offdee mentioned, the height thing is a huge factor. The very best defenders in the NBA are the 6'8" wings or the 7' centers. Not many of those in the NFL. Nevermind that every single offensive lineman would be unplayable. Plus kickers and most QBs. The list goes on and on.

 

[Bri]

There's no doubt every single football player could play NBA (playoff) defense

There is no doubt this post is completely false. Of course there are some nfl players that could play excellent NBA defense, but as @offdee mentioned, the height thing is a huge factor. The very best defenders in the NBA are the 6'8" wings or the 7' centers. Not many of those in the NFL. Nevermind that every single offensive lineman would be unplayable. Plus kickers and most QBs. The list goes on and on.

So you saw my reply to him how I wasn't talking college defense and decided to double down?

 

[the moops]

There's no doubt every single football player could play NBA (playoff) defense

There is no doubt this post is completely false. Of course there are some nfl players that could play excellent NBA defense, but as @offdee mentioned, the height thing is a huge factor. The very best defenders in the NBA are the 6'8" wings or the 7' centers. Not many of those in the NFL. Nevermind that every single offensive lineman would be unplayable. Plus kickers and most QBs. The list goes on and on.

So you saw my reply to him how I wasn't talking college defense and decided to double down?

I have no idea what "I would probably have a different take if it were top college basketball defense." means

 

[Bri]

There's no doubt every single football player could play NBA (playoff) defense

There is no doubt this post is completely false. Of course there are some nfl players that could play excellent NBA defense, but as @offdee mentioned, the height thing is a huge factor. The very best defenders in the NBA are the 6'8" wings or the 7' centers. Not many of those in the NFL. Nevermind that every single offensive lineman would be unplayable. Plus kickers and most QBs. The list goes on and on.

So you saw my reply to him how I wasn't talking college defense and decided to double down?

I have no idea what "I would probably have a different take if it were top college basketball defense." means

Oh I didn't expect that, sorry.
College basketball defense can be outstanding. You have to have the obvious hustle and effort but also an understanding of the game or game intelligence and a sincere dedication to commit to teamwork. I imagine some NFLers could do this but it would be a select group; maybe a bigger group with some practice reps and coaching but still it's a big ask and I'm not confident in NFL players transitioning.
NBA defense is boxing out, putting a hand up and fake effort type run towards a three. If your man has the ball you're to bump him or reach for it and then let him go when he gets near the hoop. Every NFL player can box out and probably well, can bump someone, and they already do the fake effort hands up when rushing a QB while he wears the practice jersey.
It's not defense. I know it's been debated here and the best reply/summary are simply by Dad's that do not want their kids to see it. Call it whatever ya want but my kid's coach is pulling him from the game if he does that junk.

 

[Tau837]

There's no doubt every single football player could play NBA (playoff) defense

There is no doubt this post is completely false. Of course there are some nfl players that could play excellent NBA defense, but as @offdee mentioned, the height thing is a huge factor. The very best defenders in the NBA are the 6'8" wings or the 7' centers. Not many of those in the NFL. Nevermind that every single offensive lineman would be unplayable. Plus kickers and most QBs. The list goes on and on.

So you saw my reply to him how I wasn't talking college defense and decided to double down?

I have no idea what "I would probably have a different take if it were top college basketball defense." means

Oh I didn't expect that, sorry.
College basketball defense can be outstanding. You have to have the obvious hustle and effort but also an understanding of the game or game intelligence and a sincere dedication to commit to teamwork. I imagine some NFLers could do this but it would be a select group; maybe a bigger group with some practice reps and coaching but still it's a big ask and I'm not confident in NFL players transitioning.
NBA defense is boxing out, putting a hand up and fake effort type run towards a three. If your man has the ball you're to bump him or reach for it and then let him go when he gets near the hoop. Every NFL player can box out and probably well, can bump someone, and they already do the fake effort hands up when rushing a QB while he wears the practice jersey.
It's not defense. I know it's been debated here and the best reply/summary are simply by Dad's that do not want their kids to see it. Call it whatever ya want but my kid's coach is pulling him from the game if he does that junk.

 

[the moops]

NBA defense is boxing out, putting a hand up and fake effort type run towards a three. If your man has the ball you're to bump him or reach for it and then let him go when he gets near the hoop.

Have you always felt this way, or were you a fan of the defensive efforts given in the 90's?

 

[Bri]

There's no doubt every single football player could play NBA (playoff) defense

There is no doubt this post is completely false. Of course there are some nfl players that could play excellent NBA defense, but as @offdee mentioned, the height thing is a huge factor. The very best defenders in the NBA are the 6'8" wings or the 7' centers. Not many of those in the NFL. Nevermind that every single offensive lineman would be unplayable. Plus kickers and most QBs. The list goes on and on.

So you saw my reply to him how I wasn't talking college defense and decided to double down?

I have no idea what "I would probably have a different take if it were top college basketball defense." means

Oh I didn't expect that, sorry.
College basketball defense can be outstanding. You have to have the obvious hustle and effort but also an understanding of the game or game intelligence and a sincere dedication to commit to teamwork. I imagine some NFLers could do this but it would be a select group; maybe a bigger group with some practice reps and coaching but still it's a big ask and I'm not confident in NFL players transitioning.
NBA defense is boxing out, putting a hand up and fake effort type run towards a three. If your man has the ball you're to bump him or reach for it and then let him go when he gets near the hoop. Every NFL player can box out and probably well, can bump someone, and they already do the fake effort hands up when rushing a QB while he wears the practice jersey.
It's not defense. I know it's been debated here and the best reply/summary are simply by Dad's that do not want their kids to see it. Call it whatever ya want but my kid's coach is pulling him from the game if he does that junk.

It's nice of FBGs to let the five year olds join and post smiley replies every now n then

 

[Bri]

NBA defense is boxing out, putting a hand up and fake effort type run towards a three. If your man has the ball you're to bump him or reach for it and then let him go when he gets near the hoop.

Have you always felt this way, or were you a fan of the defensive efforts given in the 90's?

It definitely comes and goes. There's certainly individuals I appreciate watching their efforts regardless of decade

 

[the moops]

NBA defense is boxing out, putting a hand up and fake effort type run towards a three. If your man has the ball you're to bump him or reach for it and then let him go when he gets near the hoop.

Have you always felt this way, or were you a fan of the defensive efforts given in the 90's?

It definitely comes and goes. There's certainly individuals I appreciate watching their efforts regardless of decade

But collectively. It seems you insinuate that defenses today are terrible and they give little effort

 

[Tau837]

There's no doubt every single football player could play NBA (playoff) defense

There is no doubt this post is completely false. Of course there are some nfl players that could play excellent NBA defense, but as @offdee mentioned, the height thing is a huge factor. The very best defenders in the NBA are the 6'8" wings or the 7' centers. Not many of those in the NFL. Nevermind that every single offensive lineman would be unplayable. Plus kickers and most QBs. The list goes on and on.

So you saw my reply to him how I wasn't talking college defense and decided to double down?

I have no idea what "I would probably have a different take if it were top college basketball defense." means

Oh I didn't expect that, sorry.
College basketball defense can be outstanding. You have to have the obvious hustle and effort but also an understanding of the game or game intelligence and a sincere dedication to commit to teamwork. I imagine some NFLers could do this but it would be a select group; maybe a bigger group with some practice reps and coaching but still it's a big ask and I'm not confident in NFL players transitioning.
NBA defense is boxing out, putting a hand up and fake effort type run towards a three. If your man has the ball you're to bump him or reach for it and then let him go when he gets near the hoop. Every NFL player can box out and probably well, can bump someone, and they already do the fake effort hands up when rushing a QB while he wears the practice jersey.
It's not defense. I know it's been debated here and the best reply/summary are simply by Dad's that do not want their kids to see it. Call it whatever ya want but my kid's coach is pulling him from the game if he does that junk.

It's nice of FBGs to let the five year olds join and post smiley replies every now n then

Commensurate with your apparent level of understanding of NBA defense.

 

[Bri]

NBA defense is boxing out, putting a hand up and fake effort type run towards a three. If your man has the ball you're to bump him or reach for it and then let him go when he gets near the hoop.

Have you always felt this way, or were you a fan of the defensive efforts given in the 90's?

It definitely comes and goes. There's certainly individuals I appreciate watching their efforts regardless of decade

But collectively. It seems you insinuate that defenses today are terrible and they give little effort

Yes

 

[Instinctive]

NBA defense is boxing out, putting a hand up and fake effort type run towards a three. If your man has the ball you're to bump him or reach for it and then let him go when he gets near the hoop.

Have you always felt this way, or were you a fan of the defensive efforts given in the 90's?

It definitely comes and goes. There's certainly individuals I appreciate watching their efforts regardless of decade

But collectively. It seems you insinuate that defenses today are terrible and they give little effort

Yes

This is a horrible set of takes from someone who knows a lot abut football and clearly knows little to nothing about basketball. This may be a chance to learn from some folks, Bri.

 

[Ilov80s]

I know I’m way late here and maybe it’s been assessed but:

- Why do we care that nobody is tall enough to jam Wemby in the chest? Wouldn’t jamming him in his groin and leg be even more effective at limiting his movement?

- Teams don’t usually carry guys who play such a specific role as is being described for Wemby. He would need to play special teams.